>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Mugen 6 Dual Fan/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid purchases for new builds but if you have an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which may or may not solve the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>106185756

Howdy. Got any advice on cheap but quality sound cards? With a hda front panel connector.

>>106192382
Fake chart
https://www.techpowerup.com/339564/battlefield-6-heavily-favors-cpus-with-3d-v-cache-9800x3d-smokes-i9-14900k
>Bruhskey's rig scored 330 to 370 FPS on the GPU end, and 310 to 330 FPS on the CPU end
>his friend's i9-14900K powered rig yields a CPU FPS of around 210 FPS, which puts the Intel processor at a roughly 30% performance disadvantage.

>>106192382
>5600mts
>2933mts
>3200mts
>2666mts
>4800mts

What the fuck? Is this even controlled for gpu? I wouldn't be surprised if they're also running completely random cards.

My cpu temps drops 6c under full load stress test when I close ICUE. wtf is going on. Is the software package really that bad at managing temps? Am I missing something.

someone make a proper thread instead of nicotroon shill one

>>106192520
short answer yes
long answer y e s

>>106192501
I guess the point is that the chart is being misused. It may have been a "chart" just showing performance samples from various people and their PCs, nothing is controlled because its not meant to compare individual components.

>>106192465
>>106192535
This (You)? You're such a cute sensitive cry baby like Ruby Chan! :3

Man motherboards are awful at making names for their BIOS settings. They're all called something different for the same shit. Kombo Strike, Latency Killer, EXPO, etc.

>>106192382
This picture is the new IQ test of pcgb unironically

>>106192477
>the Intel Core i9-14900K powered build of his unnamed friend that's also on the early access.
>claims that his friend's i9-14900K powered rig yields a CPU FPS
slop article for retards

Okay bros I am switching back to nvidia, why is every amd card suffering from the issue with hospot begin too warm

>>106192710
>This picture is the new IQ test of pcgb unironically
Please elaborate, my iq is 67
The german article is probably closer to reality even if it's not totally controlled right (like that's possible in a battlefield game anyways)

>>106192799
already sperged out enough in the last thread what more needs to be said
>a 9900k with 2666mhz ddr4 has higher 1%lows than a 9800x3d

Okay bros I am switching back to amd, why is every nvidia card now today suffering from the driver issues on all major OS

>>106192710
>>claims that his friend's i9-14900K powered rig yields a CPU FPS
>slop article for retards
>Frostbite engine puts out framerates for the CPU and GPU ends of the graphics pipeline separately, so you get to identify where your performance bottleneck is.
The only retard is (You). Sorry but I trust techpowerup and their article more then your shitty shill chart from who knows where.

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battlefield-6-Spiel-75270/Specials/Open-Beta-Release-Gameplay-Live-Benchmarks-Test-1479164/2/

You guys loved them when they found retarded gains for the 9070xt, why not now?

>>106192886
>Stats entirely based on hearsay from a mystery system from a "friend"
>This is evidence in an article
All I know Both the chart and the article are retarded

So now that the 9070XT hype has faded a bit and it's pretty close in price to the 5070Ti, is there any reason to go for it over the 5070 unless you're saving more than 200 or so?

Just watched it on Intel Arc with framegen and reshade.
Why they dont make good films anymore?

>>106193076
>Butchering the artists original vision with meme generation and a filter
Rape yourself

>>106193037
there is no reason to get 9070xt or 9070, both are overheating ovens and if you need to undervolting and limit the power just to run it at safe temps that is garbage

>>106193119
matrix already had frame gen

>>106192382
>>106192477
>>106192710
>Not a stable 60fps with a 5600x (and 3080)
Not looking good amd bros, looks like it might line up pretty well with the Germans and their anti-semetic chart.

>>106192353 (OP)
I miss her bros

do i need a double tower for a 9700x? what are some budget options?

>>106192902
Holy fuck that website is unusable never post again

>spends every waking moment shitting on NVIDIA
>specializes in shit talking low VRAM cards
>buys his daughter a 5080
What did he mean by this?

>>106193470
He likes giving his daughter driver issues

>>106192353 (OP)
I LOVE AME!

>>106193470
>>106193480
I don't know he said the 5080 was quite nice.

>>106193119
>Rape yourself
I saw it on TV at 24 "cinematic" unterframes.
Why just dont rewatch it with improvements?

Is it possible to build your own mini pc, like pic related?
Do such cases and appropriate motherboards exist and sold?

>>106193799
damn i wish i could remember what my gpu was back in the 2500k times
i remember it overheating and shutting down from wow

>>106193799
>2122 $ (with Inflation) in 2011 to get a PC which was an overkill for everything
>Today you cant even get a top end GPU for that much

Currently I have:

>AMD Ryzen 7 5700X
>MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4
>GTX 1660

Should I get an RTX 5070 ti or a 9070xt?

I just want to play Oblivion remastered on high settings
Also, should I get a new CPU

Could I get a rec for a 1080/144 monitor? I've been running into a persistent retarded issue where things don't behave well if they have different refresh rates and it's taken me years to realize this was the cause. My main is 1440/144 and I'm happy with it but the current secondary is a cheap 1080/60 from walmart that I've had for a while.

>>106194003
5070 Ti has been great to me

>>106194003
>Oblivion remastered
9070 XT for sure
>>106194003
>Also, should I get a new CPU
Idk what performance improvements they've made since launch but it was extremely cpu heavy game at launch so possibly.

>>106194003
i upgraded from a 2060 to a 9070 xt and im happy with my decision ill never switch back to the green team again

>>106193470
he received it for free from MSI

>>106194003
The 5700X is still pretty damn capable in a vacuum but with something like a 5070Ti / 9070XT it might start holding them back a little bit, especially in CPU heavy titles. When the 4080 and 7900XTX released, cards with a very similar level of raw performance, TPU also tested them with a 5800X on top of their usual 13900K testbench and they did lose out on some performance
You can still definitely upgrade the card, and maybe look around for decent deals on new or used 5700X3Ds / 5800X3Ds

>>106194065
glad to see that the hz-matching fear mongering I spread years ago was not just made up shit but actually was valid and you did not listen to my advice, anyway, more screen= more problem, always, especially even more so on nvidia than amd it seems if that still holds true
those panels are all cheap shit tho why buy them
you can also buy a c4 42" and use 27" in portrait for a hzmatched setup

>>106193470
you mean got for free

>>106193231
that shit runs in a vm or something for anticheat so it's cooking cpus

>>106193119
creators intent is a code word for I want it to look like shit
mastering and calibrating for accuracy looks like ass

>>106194080
>>106194003
This is fixed by forcing rebar on btw.
>>106194003
With American prices the 9070/xt aren't really worth buying. But in Oblivion either way you're going to be bottlenecked by a 5700x

>>106194518
I'm a Canadian
>>106194466
Thanks, I'll look into getting a 5800X3D

List of games that are either unplayable or significantly worse without ray reconstruction (NVIDIA exclusive) :
All RTX Remix mods
Silent Hill 2
Oblvion Remastered
Cybeprunk
Alan Wake 2
Indiana Jones

Which am I forgetting?

>>106194443
I have 2060 Super right now, how are the temperature, noise and performance compared to your previous card?

Also which 9070xt brand did you pick and do you have Samsung memory in it?

>>106194603
I have never played a video game in which ray tracing was a graphical improvement.

>>106194603
I tell people to buy 5090 as much as the next man but
>unplayable
seems questionable no

>958x540
They're not sending their best

>>106194603
so theres like 2 games there that aren't terrible if you're into them. 3 because i hear indiana jones is 'good'. They also all play just fine with memetracing on minimum.

Once again, a friendly reminder to all the bootlicking Njudean shill-tards that memetracing never needed to exist in the first place, lighting engines should still have remained something that game engine designers should have had total control over, and is purely a dev-cost cutting exercise that allows for drag and drop lighting assets at the cost of a massive framerate and stability drop. It also forces both AMD and Njudea to sacrifice valuable silicon real estate on the gpu chip to dedicate to memetracing cores when it could be giving us better rasterisation and compute power instead. This is as true now as when we were first exposed to it via the 2000 series of cards.

Njudea is a cancerous blight upon gaming and so is memetracing and its cult of buyers remorse shills. Also lol @ your lack of foreskins.

>>106194694
Shut up
Heavy RT is viable on mid range cards now, there's no reason every game shouldn't be pushing it as hard as they can.
>>106194701
Go try it yourself.
Go into cyberpunk/silent hill2/ any other game with heavy use of rt lighting or path tracing but without ray reconstruction at an internal resolution that is 1080p or below (which is what a 9070/xt is realistically going to be doing).
Grain and pixel crawl out the ass.
Remember Q2RTX(2080ti couldn't hold 1080p60)? It's maybe only a little bit better than that.
>>106194751
I found it on reddit and used snipping tool

>mfw i check my x870 msi tomahawk driver page
>they've released 6+ new bios revisions in the last 2 months
>all around various bugfixes and stability improvements, specifically memory
well that explains why it kept forgetting and having to retrain my ram sticks, i thought it was the rams fault and was gonna go buy an EXPO-enabled ram set instead.

Anyone figured out how to get your towers rbg lighting to work on MSI without having to install their malware MSI Centre app? I tried a few third parties but they were all locked out at the hardware level due to MSI's kikery. Its still better than dealing with ASUS's giga-malware that survives new OS installs and almost all forms of deletion but that doesn't mean i like it.

>>106193037
If you don't use AI you have no need for the 5070Ti.

>>106194826
>I found it on reddit and used snipping tool
go back and stay there
>Heavy RT is viable on mid range cards now, there's no reason every game shouldn't be pushing it as hard as they can
retarded kike-shill take. Helldivers 2 has the best lighting engine for actual gaming, not staring at a wall/hallway and taking SS's, and they don't use memetracing at all.

Its a shitty gimmick for cost-cutting devs, nothing more. If the devs want to make a really nice lighting engine, they still can, if they're actually dedicated to it and white/korean/japanese men ofc.

>>106192883
because Njudea never cared about you?
there's plenty of reasons, their staff-share policy made a heap of their best code monkeys filthy rich in the last 5 years, so their best employees mostly just retired to live the good life.
They have been focusing on AI and the server/production market heavily because it makes way more money than you paypiggies want to give them, so their best remaining, non-shitskin code monkeys are mostly working on that, and of course, Winblows 11 is dogshit trash thanks to Microkikes legion of indian monkeys on keyboards writing the OS code, so even good coders will struggle to make functional drivers for winblows.

You lied to me. I was told that the 9800X3D was the best CPU for gaming.

>>106194881
All these retarded newfags and njudea shills in pcbg probably don't even know what baking lights means. Games like Mirrors Edge from 2008 stills holds up today as one of the greatest looking games with pre baked lighting. You can make extremely realistic rasterized handcrafted lighting with pre baking. The only games that truly need raytracing are heavily dynamic open world games with day and night cycles and moving light sources. But nowadays lazy devs of linear games are using it even to save time and money.

>>106195006
Trolling aside, it's good to see BF still scaling with thread count. I remember BF3 being quite revolutionary for using up to 6 cores.

>6800 XT gets higher fps with 5600x than 3080
Smart Acces Memory and Radeons less cpu overhead coming out on top yet again. Reminder that if you are on AM4 or an equivalent older intel platfrom upgrading to a novideo gpu is incredibly stupid.

my fucking front panel aux port only plays audio out the right ear unless I hold it at an angle. This started happening after I accidentally pulled the case with the headphones still attached. I never use the back panel audio because it emits a very subtle quiet high pitched buzz. Any idea what to do?

>>106195252
Replace the jack or use a USB DAC.

>>106195110
yes, a benchmark suite gomean puts them within 5% of each other, but take what victories you can I guess

>>106193811
There are barebones kits with mobos
Standardized mobos don't really go that small

>>106192353 (OP)
How hard is it to build a PC, actually? Should I just pay for someone to do it for me?

>>106195371
Do you know how to operate a screwdriver?

>>106195371
I built my PC in 2007. I didn't have YouTube. All I had were text forums. You should be able to do it old man.

>>106193470
Fuck me it must be crazy being rich, that bedroom probably cost more money than my parents spent on me my entire life.

>>106195371
Really easy. I managed to do it as a 13 year old retard with bad grades. Save yourself the money and watch a YouTube guide on assembling your own PC.

>>106195371
It's never been easier, even websites like PCPartsPicker have built-in compatibility checking between components

>>106195371
It's usually about having a friend that has built one. Or it at least helps.
But as said. If you don't have one, with PCpartpicker etc it's easy to pick parts that work together. Then you find a youtube video or something to help you assemble.

One piece of advice I say every time is to not buy any sort of mini case. Get a mid/full tower, less to worry about with whether or not your surprisingly big CPU cooler or long GPU fit.
And basically whatever other parts you're thinking of getting, buy a 1440p monitor, it'll save you from disappointment.

>>106194603
>Alan Wake 2
>Indiana Jones
Objectively dogshit shouldn't even be considered video games.

>>106195358
So a mobo with a case and I add the rest to it? You got any names I can search for?

Any info on monitor arms?
Are they all basically the same shit with different logos?

>>106193232
Catch the train, she never left

>>106195371
you got this
>>106195252
the fix is probably some variant of taking your front panel off and reattaching a wire with a soldering iron or maybe bending one of the pins inside the port inwards to reach the male end better
>>106193564
it's a bit too late for that
>>106195695
catch the train? it was mentioned everywhere

>>106194459
>>106194477
>>106195411
>you mean got for free
So now the 5080 is good now? How pathetic to make a living shitting on a company then using their product for yourself. No morals at all.

Fuck bro's I swapped my PC over to a new case and now my 4090 doesn't give off any signals to my monitor. I swapped back to my old 4070s and everything works perfect again, is my 4090 toast? I tried re-seating it several times etc...

>>106195821
Mine did that once and I changed the BIOs to PCIE 4.0-3.0 and it came back. Then worked fine when I put it back to PCIE 5.0. Mine was a 3090, and yes I was shitting myself. It may have just been a coincidence.

>>106195803
You are being lied to by the schizos in this thread that have an unhealthy obsession with hardware unboxed and love slandering him. He barely talks about the 5080 in that video and even says his daughter didn't even really new a new pc but msi just offered to upgrade her so of course he accepted it like any good father. Steve's primary problem with 5080 and 50 series as a whole was price which is why he also made videos shitting on AMD when the 9070 XT failed to stay at MSRP.

damn battlefield 6 beta makes my pc hot. never seen 9800x3d hit 70c during gameplay before.

>>106195869
fuck I'll give that a shot right now.

>>106195881
>msi grooming 12 year old girls
based or cringe?

>>106195889
I hope it works. My case was probably a fluke.

>>106189886
>>106189962
>>106190112
Gigabyte mobo was innocent after all. Desperate, I took eraser to RAM contacts and blew half of duster can into the slots. The shit now works better than ever, I could never make it run 3600MHz 16-16-16-36 1.35V XMP on the old board. None of the Gear2 etc stuff is necessary anymore.

The next problem is I can't get any better DDR4 in my shithole so If I want to sell my old PC as a "prebuilt" (much higher chances of being bought) - I would have to order good kit online and wait month+ for it.

Nvidia Driver Issues

>>106195998
can't you set your command rate to 1t?

are palit and pny cards any good?

>>106195952
Yea I just checked my bios and there were no options anywhere to change my pci settings. Even in advanced options for PCI there was only a single option to enable something that wasn't relevant.

>>106196028
These are 4*8GB DDR4 sticks, I really doubt 1T would work, but I will try to run memtest overnight.

>>106196059
i feel like a 14600k's memory controller should be able to do it
good luck

It looks kind of rough on the series x. Like they are over sharpening everything

>>106196051
Damn. Well I though all MB had setting to lower PCIE standards. I probably wasn't it anyways.

This image says volumes on the current state of this general...

>106196170
Is pic related your pc? The projection is unreal.

>>106194575
Don't overpay for it. Last year you could get the 5700X3D for like $150. I really wouldn't go anywhere above $200 at the absolute maximum for a 5000X3D chip.
The 5700X/5800X non 3D are still perfectly capable, I'm loving my 5700X with a 7800XT, but yeah with a beefier GPU you might start seeing some limitations especially in CPU heavy games. YMMV depending on what you play and do with your PC

>>106196170
That guy has a lot of JO crystals, his power level must be off the charts.

Arc Poorfags can't stop losing

Idk how people can cope and lie to themselves that the nvidia driver overhead isn't real and a serious problem for competitive games. 9070 XT only 9 fps behind the 5090 and better 1% lows. GeForce is clearly getting raped hard by the overhead in this game. Arc has 1% low stuttering issues for similar reasons likely.

>>106196264
>5070 within 5% of the 9070xt
>Which is in turn within 3% of a 5090
>No rhyme or reason to 1% lows
Neat. If anything this specific screenshot is a 5070 and 5060ti endorsement.

>>106195998
>The next problem is I can't get any better DDR4 in my shithole
if you're running 3600 16-16-16 you have B-die
emphasis on the second timing (tRCD)
that's good
>>106196028
>>106196087
no lol he can't
i can tell you haven't messed with the raptor lake IMC

>>106196367
did intel fuck up? i'd expect this to work with such a new system
i have a ryzen, i have no clue

>>106196433
10th gen IMC is better than 12th/13th gen
in terms of maximum achievable gear 1 frequency
i mean it's not too bad though, 11th gen was truly terrible

>>106196433
>>106196451
also on ryzen you're probably running 1T with GDM which is a lot easier on the RAM sticks and motherboard
(it's still better than 2T, i wish it was available on intel)

>>106196152
Yea, I just tried a bunch more and couldn't get it to work, I think it might have an issue sitting properly in my mobo PCIE slot so I bought a lian li vertical GPU mount to throw in my Antec Flux Pro to see if that works since I just swapped my case from the Y70 which was also vertical mount and my 4090 worked fine in that.

>>106192353 (OP)
>>Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
uhhh you guys should probably check this link

>>106196590
More gay porn?

>>106196600
no :(

Ok fellas i currently have:

>Ryzen 9 5950X
>Asus X570 Prime Pro
>4x8gb 3000mhz DDR4 Team Delta sticks
>Galax Exoc GTX 1080
>1 Adata S40 1tb PCIE 3.0 NVME on M.2 port 2 of the motherboard
>1 Samsung MZVL4512HBLU 512gb PCIE 4.0 NVME on port 1 of the motherboard M.2
>1 Adata SX8200 512gb PCIE 3.0 NVME on an M.2 to PCI-E 4x adapter

Currently im buying 1 4tb NVME (WD Blue SN7100) for replacing both 512gb and leaving the Adata 1tb as a boot drive, but im thinking about replacing the 4x8gb dimms with 2x16gb due to dual channel and the shitty memory controller on ryzen cpus, but i don't know if that "update" will be a placebo. Would you guys replace the ram or just the nvmes?

>>106196590
Why is a backwater general getting fucked with so much? You would think a place that is about the discussion of computers would know how to post a guide that can't be constantly trolled.

Completed it on Intel Arc.

>>106196237
Game writted by jeets what did you expect?
>>106196648
>4x8gb
That a lot of sticks maybe just overclock?
5950x should have good controller. My Ryzen 1200 AF (2300x) can boot with memory 3866.

>>106196648
Or you could try to remove two sticks and check overclock becuz more sticks = less speed.

Has anyone ever tried to use an upside down case where the mobo if upside down, while also mounting their gpu vertically to sort of hang from the top of the case?

>>106196264
the best counter strike player in the world (donk) uses an RTX 4080
clearly it's not an issue to the best players in the world

>>106196451
11-14th gen memory controller squeezes out more bandwidth per frequency in gear1

/r/AyyMD is melting down about Intel being better in BF6

>>106196967
that doesn't really matter if you can get 400 MHz more out of the old memory controller
it's better for JEDEC

AyyMD sisters why did HUB put the 5070ti over the 9070XT..

>>106197019
its good troll bait, it'll be interesting to see how people react when real benchmarks come out because this one makes no sense
14400F should be faster than the 10700K and 9900k
9950x3d vs 7950x3d numbers make no sense

>>106197077
they have extreme seething Troon meltdowns when Intel is better in one single game, it's hilarious

>>106197063
>rx9060xt 16gb beats the rtx5090
its over nvidiabros

>>106197086
this is a current price value ranking

>>106197063
>5070 better than the 9070
>5070ti better than the 9070xt
Hardware unboxed has finally given in, RDNA4 confirmed total failure

>>106197077
its not a mystery. gracemont is way worse in games than skylake because of latency issues

>>106197080
coming to any conclusion from those numbers other than it makes no sense puts you on the same tier as them

So now we need to own multiple GPU's to swap out for different games. This is all getting a bit too absurd don't you think?

>>106197093
How did the 5090 end up at number 2 and not the bottom then?!

>>106197107
then why does the 14600k score so high but the 14400f score so low
skylake isn't even on the chart

nice thread you got there pedonigger
may as well let the aifaggotry take over

>>106197130
because it offers something no other card can, 4k ultra high refresh rate gaming

KEK

>>106197133
10700k has skylake cores

>>106197147
translation for whites?

>>106197169
AMD loses in 1 game so all the AMD troons are melting down about it

>>106197133
14600k is raptorlake which has 60% larger L2$ on the p-cores and 100% larger L2$ on the e-cores. And since it is less cut down, it also has an extra 3MB of L3$ to work with compared to the 14400F
10700k is cometlake but it uses skylake cores

>>106197176
Where is the amd user meltdown? All I see ITT is trolls spamming to try and incite a brand war. Kys

>>106192353 (OP)
>$849 for RTX 4070 Super
>$879 for RTX 5070
>bought the 4070 Super
The struggle of living in a third-world country. Have I made the right choice? I kind of feel like the absence of PhysX support on the 50 series GPUs is a huge deal breaker to me.

>>106197220
Do you even play any games where 32 bit physx matters? Probably not. Price difference is proportional to the performance difference so it doesn't make much difference

>>106197247
I still play Borderlands 2 and Batman Arkham games.

does anyone else decide parts on power consumption? im not letting this shit get more than 500w, its hot enough already.

>>106196204
bruh

>>106197300
If you want to go on efficiency that can make sense, caring about an arbitrary number doesn't

>>106197322
my planned build fell under 500w so i went with that number

>>106195371
the trickiest parts are;
>installing ram sticks
some motherboards have crazy stiff slots and you have to exert huge force to get them to actually seat correct, and if you slip or lose balance you could break the ram slot connector or the ram sticks themselves. Unlikely but requires serious focus to get right, 3/10 diff
>inserting cpu correctly
getting it to sit in the slot JUST right requires good eyesight and focus, if you wear glasses make sure you have them actually keyed into your current ocular degeneration level, screwing this up, and trying to seat a cooler on top and screwing it down, is a great way to damage your mobo and cpu. 6/10 diff first time
>installing AIO coolers
some are easier than others, the arguably best performer (i heard corsair, lian li and phanteks are on par or better tho) is arctic freezer III, which is awkward to install and get the wiring correct, and the instructions aren't super-clear. 3/10 diff, try not to scratch the copper plate by accident if you lose positioning
>flashing the bios
Unless you're buying a cpu that came out before the launch of the mobo you bought, you will need to flash the bios without a cpu installed 95% of the time. This process is fucking aids. Get ahold of at least a few different branded, and preferably older USB flash drives, no bigger than 32gig capacity, and load up the bios patch on them, it took me 4x different drives to find one that worked for my tomahawk x870, the one that shipped with the mobo itself, didn't work. Figuring out if its working or DOA is a matter of intuition, extensive research and massive patience half the time.

My advice? pick your parts and pay a ---local independent pc store with a retail outlet--- to assemble it for you for your first time, and assemble a whole new pc in 5 years time yourself, using the previous pc as a DL+testing hub to make sure the new parts work. You yanks dont seem to have many of these for some reason, too many globohomo megacorps ig.

is matte vs glossy as big a deal as people make it too be ?

>>106197196
https://old.reddit.com/r/AyyMD/comments/1mk3go3/early_bf6_beta_cpu_performance_test_9950x3d_just/
check the seething lunatic troons in the comments here lmfao

having memory leak issues. nothing seems to work to fix the issue. looking at just buying a new pc. looking to go amd this time. i have 2080 gpu, was thinking of just upgrading the cpu/mobo/ddr5 ram and staying with the 2080 but it seems like it would bottle neck everything else. hoping itll fix memory leak issues. ive restarted and rebooted the computer plenty, nothing . so maybe a hardware upgrade will work. any ideas?

>>106197428
Memory leaks are a software issue

>>106197407
kys for making me even go to r*ddit, you go and stay there cancer. You're also a cunt, you wasted my time with your petty, manchild lies. There was no butthurt, just normal discussion.

>>106197428
>having memory leak issues. nothing seems to work to fix the issue.
so you've done nothing to actually troubleshoot the problems with your pc? cool. You need an iq upgrade not hardware, you haven't even listed your build you dumb fuck. I bet this chimp has 16gigs and is confused as to why he's getting ram problems.

>>106197438
that thread is rife with utterly delusional tranny COPE

>>106197450
>0 points

>>106197269
I have a shitty old RX 570 and it can run all Mirror's Edge and all Arkham games pretty smoothly (except Knight) and, being an AMD card, it has no PhysX support. Modern cards can just bruteforce that shit, I wouldn't worry about it unless you want to hit ridiculous framerates.

>>106197428
>>106197438
>>106197435

2080 rtx geforce
32gb ram ddr4
z390 mobo
i9-9900kf cpu

ive done all the troubleshooting options i could find. even rebooted and deleted everything an did a fresh install. nothing seems to work. what am i missing?

>>106197462
I mean you can run it with physx without hardware support you will just drop to 30fps at times

>>106197470
things i usually use my pc for.
mining xmr
virtual boxing ubuntu - trying to learn linux.
gaming and emulating old games
browsing and streaming.
since i stopped mining xmr because the electric bill was getting a bit to crazy for me, memory leak issues started and haven't left.

>>106197486
what do you even mean by memory leak

>>106197147
>>106197450
Is posting our reddit account the new pcbg trend?

Sorry if retard, but are USB slots added to my mobo via a pcie card worse/slower than the ones on my mobo's backplate? Obviously assuming they're all the same kind of usb.

I can imagine there's some kind of inteference from having to go through a pcie instead of being hardwired into the board itself.

>>106197492
when trying to open file explorer other programs they would just crash and close. id get the blue screen and the error message would usually say memory leak. the computer would be good for a bit then start crashing and getting blue screened more and more often as time goes on. mind you i have plenty of ram to work with and i dont multitask too much. usually vm open and watching vids and the occasional gaming. usually steam or old roms from wii u and down.

>>106197513
realistically, not really
there are some asterisks with going through a congested chipset link but thats situational

>>106197516
sounds like a faulty cpu/ram/motherboard issue

>>106197516
I don't think 'memory leak' is a real bsod error

>>106197523
Thank you

When do you choose the 9950x3d over the 9800x3d? I will mainly play games on my rig, but I also wanna coom gen. Or is the extra money better spent on getting the 5080 instead of the 5070 ti?

>>106197513
apart from usb4 on x870/z890, they're all routed through the south bridge chipset anyway so they should be able the same

>>106197564
if you want to coom gen you get a 5090

>>106197564
extra money is better saved/spent on a 3090/5090 than a 5070ti

>>106197573
You mean 4090?

>>106197581
In AI, 3090 = 4090 since both are 24gb

>>106197531
>>106197536

anyways to narrow down the issue? ive had this set up for a few yrs, no issues up until now.

>>106197596
use prime95 smallffts to stress test your cpu
testmem5 anta777 absolute to stress test your ram
occt to stress test your gpu

do it one at a time to narrow down the culprit

Best GPU that's around 1k?

>>106197564
CPU is 99% irrelevant when it comes to AI.
For AI, your main concern is going to be VRAM. And thanks to nvidia, you have to make sacrifices.
16GB on a 5070ti limits what models you can load, compared to 24GB on a 3090/4090. It also gives you more headroom for multitasking. You absolutely want 24GB, and a 3090 costs about the same as a 5070ti.
However, the 3090 is significantly worse than a 5070ti for gaming, and it's an old card so you miss out on things like fp8 with AI.
4090/5090 would be ideal, but you're paying double what you would for a 5070ti (minimum).

I'd check 3090 benchmarks for the games you want to play, and if it's good enough, go for that over the 5070ti.

>>106197564
if you want your pc to effortlessly mutlitask with browsers, games, various apps running in the background, groomercord etc, and not worry about cpu-bottlenecks, and you're not poor, the 9950x3d is your go-to.

That being said, its getting slightly long in the tooth at this point, there is an argument to wait for the 11800x3d. They're gonna be big upgrades with loads more cores.

>>106197618
You might find a 4080 but mor than likely I'd pick between the 9070 xt and the 5070 ti. Neither of those shcost more than $850. If you can comfortably wait it's possible that new cards will come before the year is up

Same anon as last thread, went and tightened my timings some more, down to 61.5 ns latency. Ran y-cruncher for over an hour and then spent a few hours gaming, seems rock solid, pretty happy.

Is there any word on what AMD is cooking for their next GPU lineup? I've been eyeing the 9070 XT as an upgrade from my RX 6800 but I can't really justify the expenditure.

I found someone willing to buy my used 7800 XT for $525. I was thinking of doing a slight downgrade to a 9060 XT card because it seems like AI upscaling and frame gen is going to be a big deal for demanding games in the future. It also helps that I managed to find an open box model from microcenter for $360 with tax included.

Is this a bad deal or should I just keep my 7800 XT? I run most games in 1440p but was thinking of pulling out my 1080p monitor as a 2nd monitor to make the 9060 XT more futureproof.

Should I swap my cards or just hold onto my 7800 XT? AMD still hasn't confirmed if FSR 4 is even coming to the 7000 series cards.

>>106197667
yeah, big navi is coming back with rdna5/udna

>>106197685
>$525
holy shit, do it
it seems they have already given up with fsr4 on rdna3 in the last few weeks

>>106197704
yea I'm still kind of pissed that AMD is dicking around not willing to support their older GPUs.

>>106197738
NVIDIA has always had massively superior support for older GPUs

>>106197738
yeah amd always comes up short in providing good software to support their top tier hardware.
this was also the case in the early ryzen days where intel kept winning benchmarks because of better software libraries and driver support despite running a far older and lower IPC architecture

>>106197609
ran prime 95 for a few minutes, everything seems good on that end.
got a direct link for the other 2? too many foreign languages has me skeptical to download the programs.

>>106197774
sure, both programs are found in the first two links of this post
>>106187697

>>106197638
Nah, I'm not sacrificing my gaming for AI. I mainly gonna use silly tavern text-based gen, maybe with pic gen every once in a while. I'll get the 5070 ti and 9950x3d

>>106197800
ok just dont check back on hardware news after buying your hardware because nvidia is totally not going to release a 24gb 5070ti this christmas

>>106197806
That shit is gonna cost double anyways. And if I really feel like needing more VRAM, then I'll just the 5070ti and upgrade.

Is the Ryzen 5 7500F a good budget CPU to be paired with the RTX 4070 S?

>>106192353 (OP)
How many screens in a PC before it starts slowing down?

I have my AIO and a new panel running and don't notice any changes.

>>106197755
get a real job ranjeesh, fucking shills jesus.

>>106197685
i dont know why you're bothering to trade one for the other in the first place, why fuck around for miniscule gains/losses? if you can make a profit off an idiot willing to overpay for a used gpu, do so. This entire post baffles me with its pointlessness. Make a second pc with the 7800xt and sell it or something i dunno.

>>106197853
I have no idea how to get the edit the data.

But at least I know how to make a gif screen out of it.

>>106192353 (OP)
we need more gpus in this form factor

>>106197842
It's a good choice if you're on a budget and want to play vidya

>>106197698
Why no 10080 XT? What the FUCK is AMD's problem?

>>106197698
>>106197909
>you just know they will call it the 10090 non-xt and charge 90% of XT money for 80% of XT performance

Think I'll be selling my 5070ti later this year to my neighbor so that I grab a 5090 and put a waterblock on it. First time doing it, but how hard can it be?

>>106193470
He doesn't actually believe what he says. His channel's content is for the sake of his channel. Just like the others the moment they stop making NvidiaBad content is the exact minute they lose a bunch of subscribers.

>>106193470
>replaced the 13900ks and z790 apex for a basic bitch 9800x3d
not like this intel bros
>>106195881
so he's based

>>106195695
I'm aware of it, but it's just not the same anymore bro

If I'm building a new rig to last me another 5+ years minimum, should I just get the 9070xt?

I can't say I don't care about RT, I don't even know if I care or don't care- but I'm more concerned about getting the "da best" and most future proof non rtx 50 card right now while I have $3k burning a hole in my pocket

Is 9070 XT really that much better than 9060 XT that it doubles the price of 9060?

I don't plan on upgrading my pc unless I can't do something I want to due to hardware

>>106197698
>something close to 5090/6090 performance at under 400w
Interesting, but it'll probably be way too expensive in Australia. Unless BF6 rapes my RX 6800 I'll just wait, "10070 XT" (god I hope they come up with a better naming convention for next gen) should be fine for me.

>>106198117
>da best
>non rtx 50 card
So you want the worst? Just buy amd then nigga

>>106198246
reading must be difficult for you

>1080 finally starting to fail me
i'm not going to make it to the refresh bros

>>106198117
Rtx4090 is the best non-rtx50 card

>>106198117
If you really don't want a 50 series card then yeah, it's the best option. It'll be fine for the next few years unless you're expecting to run every unoptimized AAA game at 4k ultra with maxed out memetracing.

Did you watch the new Steve video? Nvidia is going to kill him at some point if he stays on the warpath (if the glowies don't get him first).

>>106198133
Have you looked at the specs? 9060 XT is literally half the core and memory bandwidth of a 9070 XT with a couple hundred MHz higher clock speed.

>>106198273
He has no wife and kids to drag him down
He's untouchable

>>106198273
Why would NVIDIA kill him. He's one of their best customers.

I want to game at 4k and seems like only the 7900 XTX offers 24gb for a reasonable price. No im not getting the 5090

>>106198335
>4K
Oh boy...

>>106198117
There are no future proof cards ATM, this is the worst gen of all time, and they suck dicks at all the new tech that will become more prominent in the future and also all lack VRAM other than 5090
Next gen will be the time to future proof, GPUs will actually be good at ray tracing and whatnot

>>106198354
Yes, Im getting a 4k oled, 1440p is outdated. I have no issues with DLSS. I might just grab the 5070 ti and replace it later with the 24gig version

>>106198335
It'll work as long you don't enable memetracing

>>106198380
DLSS is a must for 4k at a reasonable price. You are basically stuck with NVIDIA. I'd wait for the refresh later this year and see how things pan out.

>>106198360
>There are no future proof cards ATM
Every Nvidia card is future proof. Enjoy your 9070 not having access to FSR5 because that only works on UDNA1.

>>106192353 (OP)
B550 or X570

>>106198117
9070xt does ray tracing anon

>>106198399
I have run 4k since like 2016 on low end hardware and still am on a 9070xt. I don't understand this meme. Literally just change settings or pick and choose the game. I played in 4k on a gtx760 for years.

>>106198459
Xbox is leaving. Nintendo is a cell phone. We literally only have playstation 6 to set the standard for developers and therefore how much vram and processing power a normal user will need coming up.

>>106198459
I don't want fake frames anyway.

>>106198479
>Literally just change settings or pick and choose the game.
Or not worry about if you can run it and use DLSS. I do agree there are some awfully optimized games, but loads of people still play them.

>>106198499
Antisemite

I bought a i7-13850HX and it's benching slower than my i5-12400. Why is this happening? It doesn't look like it's power or thermal throttling?

The motherboard is a Jginyue B760I gaming. Its BIOS is pretty confusing and I'm not able to figure out how to overclock it.

Are most of you guys hobbyists? Pros? I only came in here because I finally needed to replace my old shitbox. Components have gotten so expensive I can't imagine doing this all the time unless your job pays well or this IS your job. Like, sure, does the concept of trying to piece together an ITX gaming rig I can carry around like a suitcase intrigue me now that I know how to do a normal ATX build? Sure, but am I willing to spend the pile of cash to do so when I already have a working desktop? Absolutely not.

>>106198504
Just use lossless scaling if you want life support for a weak card via fake frames and upscaling. As a bonus you can use it on games locked to 30fps

>>106198555
Itx/sff is for trannies. Buy a full tower with room for upgrades and 10 fans and a laptop

>>106198578
Given most people don't bother with multiple graphics cards anymore, I feel like full sized ATX in a full tower is kind of a waste from a performance standpoint. The only real advantage it gives you is working space in the case itself. For the vast majority of applications, mATX is better so long as you learn how to work within the space limits.

I gotta give it to Lian Li, putting the PSU at the front of the 207 so the bottom fans blow directly into the graphics cards is brilliant.

>>106198568
Why use a shittier version of something that many find questionable. DLSS is as good as it gets.

Thoughts on the Lian Li V100? Thinking about nabbing it.

>>106198598
>learn how to work within the space limits.
Queer

>>106198633
Pretty soon we're gonna end up with all-around glass cases, like one of those prototypes from World Fairs a century ago to let people see all the sci-fi tech inside the thing (meanwhile the production version was always in a wooden case).

>>106198645
>learning to be efficient is queer
Mediocrity is not something to be proud of. Frankly I don't see what's hard at all about working in an mATX case other than you do need to plan ahead with your cabling, which shouldn't be hard to do if your IQ is anywhere above median.

>>106198674
if your case can't fit 2 480mm 80mm thick rads its fucking faggot shit

>>106198687
Based and efficient. I love big cases.

>>106198524
>max TDP 55w
Hmm... that doesn't look right.

>>106198687
>2 480mm rads
What, have you got multiple Threadrippers in there or something?

>>106198687
The innovation that is required of cases going forward is a good way to externally mount AIOs. No need for intake fans whatsoever, or at least only one is required to be pointed straight at the motherboard.

>>106198719
The milk crate and zip ties already exists.

>>106197917
>>106197909
>early leaks and speculation
If there was an RX *80 XT, my guess at specs would be: 86-92 CUs, 256 bit bus (giving 1152 GB/s bandwidth), 24 GB GDDR7, and running between 300 to 350 watts.

>>106198524
Try raising short and long power limits (pl1, pl2) and current limit (iccmax) to unlimited
If nothing works then the ucode/board is bottlenecking your chip

>>106198818
it would be 450w to not even beat a 5080

>>106198829
On their current architecture sure, UDNA/Navi 5 is supposed to be a leap forward so they might be able to pull from their iGPU and server GPU designs to make something that's competitive. At least, I hope - nVidia having an effective monopoly on the GPU market fucking sucks.

What you guys think?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X

Motherboard: ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI

Memory (RAM): Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6400MHz 64GB (2x32GB) CL32

SSD: Samsung 980 Pro 2TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 Gen4

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Graphics Card (GPU): ASUS Dual AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition 24GB GDDR6

Power Supply Unit (PSU): Seasonic Prime TX-1000 (1000W, 80 Plus Titanium)

Case: Cooler Master HAF XB EVO

>>106198820
I hit power optimization on intel XTU and it's much better now.

>>106198905
>A*D 7900 XTX
Enbydiva cards are better thoughbeit

>>106198905
>guys what do you think of my no expenses spared productivity build
>with a 980 Pro and RDNA3

>>106198905
>6400MHz 64GB (2x32GB) CL32
that likely wont work in gear 1 mode. get 6000cl30 instead
>980 Pro 2TB
sn850x is better
>D15
outdated and bad value. eitehr get the cheaper thermalright phantom spirit 120 or get the best air cooler, D15 G2, or better yet, get a 360mm AIO
>7900 XTX
rx9070xt is better for gaymen and nvidia rtx5070ti is better for non-gaymen than the 7900xtx

>>106198956
looks fine if its drawing >240W
clocks seem much too low for how much voltage its getting though. i'd expect it to be able to do at least 5ghz with a 1.25v vid request

>>106198997
>>106198987

Thanks for notice my mistakes and your advices

>>106199007
Pretty good for a $130 CPU, I think. I did read somewhere that these HX cpus are power hungry. I hope I don't end up paying for it with the power bill in the long term.

It looks like boost ratio was locked to 42x. I'll try playing with core ratio and voltage offset and stuff and see if I can squeeze more out of it.

For $250, RX 9060 XT 8GB or B580 12GB?

What happens to ARC if Intel goes under? Does the GPU become essentially unusable since you wouldn't be getting driver updates anymore?

Any reports of the msi water block 5090s catching fire? I want to upgrade from my 5070ti to one but am scared of it killing my psu or itself.

>>106199286
8 GB anything is just setting your money on fire

>>106199333
Well, they want like $450 for a 16GB card and I ain't paying $450. And anyone who pays $450 should be put to work in the mines.

we biting bros??

>>106199432
>Pinoy 5090

>>106199395
>>106199286
used RX 6800, otherwise pony up for the 16GB 9060

>>106199332
I don't think so
Then again, a lot of melted connectors were only discovered when their owners unplug the connector on a working psu/gpu to check or swap GPUs and found that the connector has melted after 2 years of working "fine"

>>106199395
not sure where you're looking, but you can regularly find 9060xt 16gb on amazon/jewegg for 360 in the US

>>106199456
there was one single instance of this found btw lol

>>106199795
why do you come onto the internet and lie?
>https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/official-rtx-4090-power-cable-found-melted-by-reviewer-2-years-later-card-functioned-fine-despite-hidden-melted-connector
>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1hatdj3/well_it_happened_to_me_4090_connector_melting/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1kjicr5/4090_melted_just_as_i_was_about_to_sell_it_and/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1infhrp/from_the_article_4090_user_checked_his_12vhpwr/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1iydwsw/4090_connector_start_melting_after_2_years_and_4/

>a bunch of reddit links
enough said

>a bunch of links from the only forum that matters
enough said

>>106197959
[spoiler]more regular streams, unrestricted by perms and now the fish is back; it's unironically better[/spoiler]

>>106197959
more regular streams, unrestricted by perms and now the fish is back; it's unironically better

idk if this belongs here but I need a new PC for my HTPC set up and I'm on a tight budget (~200$).
If I just played videos I'd just get the cheapest thing I could find, but I've also been getting into emulation. Basically I'm looking for a budget mini PC with modern CPU extensions and good integrated graphics.

>>106200283
Used Rog Ally or Steam Deck and dock via HDMI

>>106200283
try looking for used optiplexes with at least an 8th gen i7

>>106193480
>>106196003
YIKES

>>106192353 (OP)
>Mid range: SN7100

dumb question, how is SN7100 a recommended ssd for boot drive when it has no DRAM?

Stick to 24" 1080p or upgrade to 27" 1440p for gayming?
Specs below
>i5 14500, 32gb 5600 mt/s ram, RTX 5060 Ti 16gb
Last thing to upgrade is my ancient 24" FHD 60hz VA panel from 2011. I prob should have got the 5070 but since I'm used to 1080p am I better off getting a nicer 24" display for ~$100 and longevity out of the GPU or make the move to 1440p with the performance hit? Thanks

>>106199657
That's still $110 over for some extra RAM. This entire market is fucking retarded, and developers who fail to optimize where 16GB is required should probably be fired and blacklisted.

>>106200671
27" 1440p is popular for a reason