Thread 106193560

The way Linux handles running out if RAM is laughable. No popup that says "hey you're out of ram", no killing high usage applications, no, the default behavior is literally just to start gigaswapping and freeze the system.

I don't have a swap partition it just shuts down the application.

>>106193560 (OP)
The amount of times some bloated jeet-coded javascript ran out of control on firefox and caused my entire system to come to a screeching halt to the point where I can't even switch to a TTY because there isn't enough RAM to register keyboard inputs is fucking absurd. Get your shit together Linus.

Why would you be running out of ram?

>>106193560 (OP)
Is a meme OS. Even if it gets popular and serious work is put into it it'll just get raped by hackers and turn slow and bloated anyways. You will never escape slow, bloated operating systems and software. Ever. Give up.

>>106193792
>Even if it gets popular
Nigger half the world's servers and smartphones run linux, how much more popular does it need to be?

>>106193792
What rhymes with
>meme OS

>>106193560 (OP)

ackschually, the COOM KILLER is configured out of the box and cannot be disabled. you're probably just holding it wrong.

>>106193823
dream os

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>>106193842
I have never used a distro where the OOM killer works correctly. The only time I ever got the oom killer working was on a preconfigured vps

Lol this was a problem listed in the unix haters handbook back in 1994, cant believe it still hasn't been resolved

>>106193560 (OP)
It teaches you discipline. Only iToddlers need warnings.

>>106193560 (OP)
>configures system to use swap when low on memory
>system uses swap when low on memory
Wow!

>>106193792
Servers are more desirable targets than PCs, anon.
It's on most the servers.

>>106193800
>servers
more than half, atleast +80%, and the other ~20% is mostly freeBSD stuff like freeNAS and pfSense.
>smartphones
also more than half, android is more popular worldwide. And apple's operating systems, including the one in their iPhone is running the darwin kernel.
UNIX-like operating systems won. Wintoddlers, like OP, are pathetically spewing nonsense.

>>106193560 (OP)
Stop being a RAMlet

our lord and savior poettering thought of this too, just enable systemd-oomd

>>106193888
yeah, it's not a trivial problem, especially when you don't know the target workload. direct your concerns to your sysadmin.

Pixel 2 used to do HDR in software by merging several raw images, which would use hundreds of GB of RAM. so you could take a picture, swap to your messager to send it, and the background processing would get COOM MURDERED, losing the image. good shit Google.

>>106194005
If you wanna be a fucktard why don't you come here and say it to my face so i can answer you with a swift fist to the nose.

>>106194005
using a computer 20 years ago was a vastly better experience with considerably slower processors and less ram.
being a ramlet isn't the problem, letting jeets into the west is.

>>106193560 (OP)
macOS doesn't have this problem.

>>106194535
>image
What a retard take. 2 digit iq people fall for this shit, sadly.

>>106194886
cope

>>106194535
I have both, I use my dualboot win/linux 95% of the time because I'm NEET and don't need to organise my time like a wagie.

that's why you should using ZRAM.

and also this: https://chrisdown.name/2018/01/02/in-defence-of-swap.html

>>106194428
these events don't coincide
enshitification began way before the jeet invasion
jeets are a symptom not the cause
the cause is another far more insidious tribe

>>106193997
Android loonix lmao

>>106194428
may i suggest you move to the bsds for your potato computing needs? i installed openbsd 7.7 which is the latest, the installed system takes less than 30 mbs of ram and support for 32 bit as well as more niche architectures seems like it won't go anywhere

>>106193560 (OP)
meds

>>106195854
freecope

>>106193560 (OP)
>hurr linux suxx!
windows does the exact same shit, except once it swaps, it runs like shit *forever* until it's restarted. it's magical.

>>106194535
fpbp

>>106194535
this kills the freetard

Op is a retard, but might as well ask: why does the oom killer kick in whenever I pacman -syu? Like I guess it's doing some massively parallel bullshit and tries to use all my (substantial) ram, so the system has to start reaping elsewhere (usually firefox, which granted is probably using half said substantial ram). But shouldn't it not do that? Isn't having the OOM killer kick in regularly a bad thing?

>>106197410
Why don't you submit a patch to the kernel if you think it should behave differently? It's free software, Linus doesn't owe you shit.

>>106193560 (OP)
Do you have 1GB of RAM or are you retarded?

>>106199717
nta, but yes, that's pretty common for vps, why the fuck would i pay for more if i just want to run a bunch of containers.

>>106193560 (OP)
just have more ram problem solved

>>106193560 (OP)
the default configuration on some distros is retarded, just configure it like you want
>>106194535
and what happens on mac when you run out of ram?

>>106193560 (OP)
Tune swappiness and the OOM killer or use userspace daemon monitors. Use Alpine or minimal BSD install for your needs. Download more ram. There are many solutions to your ailment

>>106199911
You solder more ram on the mobo.

>>106193560 (OP)

i have no knowledge as in 1GB - 16GB ram territory but linux supposedly has zram and mac has unified memory maybe samsund 5th gen pcie is around there

>>106194535
>HEY KIDDO HAS YOUR COMPUTER BEEN ON FOR THREE DAYS?
>BETTER LEAK MEMORY INTO ALL THAT UNUSED RAM YOU WEREN'T USING
>DON'T LIKE IT? JUST REBOOT EVERY OTHER DAY LIKE THEY TELL YOU MACS DON'T NEED
Don't worry macshit is even worse.

here's a good talk if anyone in this thread actually wants to learn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjyqiMjmZk

>>106193560 (OP)
https://github.com/rfjakob/earlyoom
Install it and stfu

Windows has no good way to tell you that you've run out of hard drive space, just 0 bytes free after your application dies, has an error or resets your config.

>>106203527
linux does the same thing desu

>>106193560 (OP)
>>106193765
>>106193888
>>106193924
The problem is linux swaps out exactly what it's NOT supposed to. It swaps the pages of memory of small files which contain the code to handle various stuff instead of swapping the pages of data which haven't been accessed in a long time.