Thread 106197845

Lending a DVD of your favorite show to a friend isn't illegal.
How is that any different than ripping the file, putting it in a USB stick, then lending the USB stick to a friend?
How is that any different than ripping the file, and lending it to a friend via the internet?
How is that any different than lending lots of little bits of files to lots of anonymous friends via the internet?

>>106197845 (OP)
Through lobbying copyright holders convinced governments that copying a movie is about as bad as copying money

>>106197845 (OP)
just more lies your jewish slave masters told you to keep you from chimping out

>>106197845 (OP)
The jews want it that way

>>106197845 (OP)
>than ripping the file
really
stale

>>106197845 (OP)
>anonymous friends
They're not your friends. That's the whole point.
But people do it anyway.

>>106197845 (OP)
Cooking a meal and inviting your friends for dinner isn't illegal. So why is robbing a supermarket and giving everyone free food illegal?!

>>106197845 (OP)
In the EU, its your legal right to rip any media from a CD and put it on whatever personal device you want. I don't know how that works with lending to friends though, probably doesn't. Your friend doesn't own the media that ripped from.

>>106197845 (OP)
It's legal to copy a passage from a book in your diary. How is that any different from scanning the whole book and air-dropping thousands of copies on a random town?!

>>106197845 (OP)
Stop asking antisemitic questions

You wouldn't rip a car, OP.

>>106199409
I know your being intentionally hyperbolic, but if granted you weren't robbing anyone at gunpoint, and just stealing and actually giving it to everyone and not just trying to personally benefit, chances are you'd get away on probation, so your example isn't as great as you think it is.

i believe that the money, particularly in the media and porn industries, is mostly fake and gay and doesn't come from consumer purchases or legitimate profit.

The law inserts itself into your syllogism wherever it wants, but that's not really what matters. Piracy must be illegal because it cannot be justified under a categorical imperative. If everyone pirated one copy of a movie or game or program, it would not be profitable to create such works and the end result would be bad for everyone. Therefore piracy is illegal, and a large amount of people purchase their own legal copies of things they want. But piracy laws are weakly enforced unless you are distributing, so you can incur a slight risk to pirate whatever you want. This is a good arrangement. If the rate of piracy drastically increased, the laws would be enforced more strictly to maintain balance, through ISP logging, honeypots, or whatever else is necessary to prevent convenient, readily available piracy with strangers. Businesses themselves participate in an arms race against piracy by developing DRM for software and conducting collaborations with large platforms to control reuploads of movies and music and either collect the ad revenue or take them down. Business also indirectly compete with piracy by regularly developing new features and providing new services. Many people are content paying for streaming platforms even if they are not morally against piracy because it's ultimately hassle-free. You should appreciate how things are now and how easy it is to pirate before the industry evolves.

>>106197845 (OP)
>Lending a DVD of your favorite show to a friend isn't illegal.
Your whole argument fails already due to the fact they kill physical media for digital copies they can delete any time. See the kindle deleted ebook debacle. Plenty of examples.

>>106199409
thats retarded, piracy is closer to buying a bag of potatoes at a supermarket then growing more with them and giving some to your mate this is basically illegal already thought because the food companies patent their engineered seeds its illegal to reproduce the plant without giving them money kek

>>106200681
overcomplicated, you are simply not allow to sell uncooked or cooked food without a license
and there is a good reason for that. I don't want my onions come from china full of cadmium.

>>106200703
>you are simply not allow to sell uncooked or cooked food without a license
you dont even need a license to sell home grown produce in the uk, it is illegal if you use seeds taken from supermarket crops though because theyre all grown from commercial seed

>>106197845 (OP)
the difference between lending a dvd and copying it to usb is that the dvd is fungible. the manufacturer got their money for the one(1) dvd and only that one(1) dvd is being used. once you copy it to a new device that is objectively the point where bootlegging begins

>>106197845 (OP)
the difference is that in theory your DVD can only be loaned to one friend at t time where as im pretty sure rarbg or whoever is loaning to many, many friends
but really i find that files should be copied and only truly exceptional media should be supported
there is evidently no shortage of capital rushing to finance films even with piracy which suggests it remains quite profitable

>>106201622
without piracy capital allocation would be even more skewed toward useless but profitable entertainment and less toward genuinely useful infrastructure and technological investments
basically piracy is good

>>106197845 (OP)
You just described how they're different. The law is just a set of rules that people wrote to try and capture nuances like that.

>>106200608
This is the 180 IQ take OP should take to heart

>>106197845 (OP)
Copyright is inherently illogical.
You cannot own letters, you cannot own numbers, you cannot own notes, you cannot own ideas.

This is not debatable.
That's why all copyright laws have an expiration date.

These unnatural laws only exist so Jews can profit.
Simple as.

But deep down everyone knows they are crazy, hence the expiration date.

>>106202193
>That's why all copyright laws have an expiration date.
Mickey Mouse not just ain't original work, copyright now extended to solid 100 years.

>>106202633
Disney is the worst kind of Jewry imaginable
They want to make a point since Disney himself was an antisemite.

Piracy is only bad if it steals revenue from the artist, meaning after pirating something you are obligated to buy it, or support the artist in some other way.

The distinction is important because a lot of movies, anime and older games are innacessible without piracy, as such the pirate is doing a service to society by preserving wordly culture.

>>106199422
>I don't know how that works with lending to friends though, probably doesn't.
Illegal in most. In some you can torrent legally though.

>>106199409
Glad we cleared that up.

>>106199409
>why is robbing a supermarket illegal?
Yeah idk makes no sense to me.

>>106200725
>you dont even need a license
>in the uk
HAHAHAHA nice joke m8

>>106197845 (OP)
Windows 11 does this.

>>106197845 (OP)
Lending a DVD means you can't currently watch the content. Lending a copy means a lost customer because you both can simultaneously

>>106206355
the crime is the convivence.
look at sony, how much shit did they make and sell that was designed to copy media? tape recorders, cd burners, dvd burners, mp3 players. it wasn't a problem because it wasn't convenient

>>106206355
Intellectual property violates physical property rights, because it means someone else can tell me what to do with my physical property if I arrange it in a way that copies theirs. IP is actually protection of hypothetical profits.