Thread 106200990

https://github.com/fiso64/slsk-batchdl/issues/128#issuecomment-3170418940

Soulseek has begun banning terms from searches.
With the zoomer influx from tiktok, how much time does it have left? And where do we go when it goes down?
I really don't want to resort to private tracker faggotry.

>>106200990 (OP)
>I really don't want to resort to private tracker faggotry
Your choices are
>Eternal seething
>Spotify
>Rope

>>106201053
>Spotify
anon part of the reason why I'm using soulseek is because half of my library is not on any of the major streaming services.

>>106200990 (OP)
its been doing this for over a decade, you just need to learn how to navigate around the banned terms.

for example, search for "Beatles" shows no results, but search for an album title and you'll get a million results.

newfag lesson over

>>106201343
>he doesn't know you can search *eatles
I know more than you, faggot. Soulseek is still dying. The writing is on the wall.

>>106201361
you thought banned terms has only just begun.
my work in exposing you is done here.

>>106200990 (OP)
get a free trial for tidal premium
use tidal-dl to download as much as you can in that time
done

>Search for Nigel Pepper Cock - Fresh White Reeboks Kickin Your Ass on [redacted]
>it works
Private Tracker chads we keep on winning

>>106201380
I haven't encountered any banned terms before around 2023-2024, maybe because I wasn't searching for normie shit. At any rate they are becoming much more common which indicates increased attention from copyright trolls.
>my work in exposing you is done here.
I don't know what you think you've exposed here, but you're free to leave.

>>106201420
>his favorite slop is available on tidal
get better taste

>>106200990 (OP)
if thats what they need to do to prevent jews from shutting down a good service, then its okay with me. dont care if some normal fag cant download p diddy and all his other favorite groomers.

>>106200990 (OP)
>Soulseek has begun banning terms from searches.
OHHHHH this is what's been happening
Because on /mu/ a LOT of people have been complaining they can't find things on there when they search for them
It's happened to me too, you have to type the name and year and hope they turn up
writing certain artist names will return nothing
Sometimes a VPN gets around it I think
but yeah this is 100% happening
At least I know we've not all been going mad on there now
maybe it's been going on longer but the expansion this year has been massive

People are still finding Clipse albums and downloading them from me. Soulseek has banned terms like "Beatles" for years. It's easy to work around it. Use your imagination. By the way if you're not on a private tracker soulseek is shit. A bunch of us RED/OPS users share our entire collections on there. You can search for specific folder names from private trackers on soulseek to avoid wasting your ratio. Then there's also no need to waste your time verifying that the files you got from soulseek aren't youtube2flac garbage. If it cross seeds it's legit. It's not dying you're just using it all wrong. Low skilled pirates are embarrassing.

>>106202001
And I'm sharing files only on soulseek which I know for a fact nobody but me has anywhere else.
Soulseek is more convenient and doesn't require you to go through a humiliation ritual to download music. Do you really think that you fags have more people sharing rare music? Don't make me laugh.

The only way private trackers could surpass soulseek is if it were to go down.

>>106202035
I don't give a shit what you're sharing unless it has a 100% verified log. If it isn't on a private tracker I'm not wasting my time checking it. I am not distributing garbage.

>>106202051
Lol, people share verified logs all the time on soulseek unless it's digital only. But anyways, don't you have some mod's cock to suck on RED?

the fuck is soulseek? lmao

>>106202103
Where do you think all that stuff comes from? Like I said I share everything I download from RED/OPS and only use slsk to look for things that come from there. I don't have time to sift through trash.

>>106202117
The last p2p software left standing for people who want to pirate music the old fashioned way.

>>106202168
old fashioned way is irc and aol server/massmail chatrooms

>>106202156
I know multiple people personally who only upload their rips to soulseek and aren't on any private tracker. Knowing how much of a better service soulseek provides compared to private trackers, I bet it's the other way around if anything.

>>106202259
>I know multiple people personally who only upload their rips to soulseek
what a weird thing to actually know 'multiple people personally' that do it

>>106202227
P2P existed alongside it.

>>106202259
If it's anything anybody actually wants someone will upload it to a private tracker. Most of it is probably already there. Also you're probably larping because you think you're in some console war style argument when you're talking to someone who uses both and distributes high quality flac files to the soulseek community with a seedbox 24/7.

>>106202305
aol chatrooms serving mp3s beat out napster by a few years. it was infinitely better because aol's servers hosted the content (as email attachments) so it was always as fast as your connection would allow

>>106200990 (OP)
>Soulseek
What is this and why should I care?

>>106202286
doujin music server. But sure, accuse me of lying. You win.
>>106202305
soulseek is not garbage to use unlike private trackers. You're in denial if you think red has more stuff.

>>106202286
Goddamn right

>>106202286
not really you can talk to people on soulseek

>>106202328
If your connection was AOL it's not actually better. I am old enough to remember. 56k was 56k (or slower) so downloading mp3s from a guy with shit upload on a cable modem would saturate the connection just the same as a T3 or some shit would. I am right now reminiscing about downloading a CD single from a XDCC bot on my grandma's AOL connection. The bot had a minimum speed and would cut you off if you went below it so I kept resuming over and over until it completed.

>>106202338
scroll up literally 6 fucking posts you mong

>>106202346
What's the point of more if it's all ripped from YouTube? I care about getting what I want in the best possible quality. Not filling my drives I paid good money for up with crap.

>>106202338
it's nothing
don't worry bout it

>>106200990 (OP)
Do I need to VPN this to make it so I don't get arrested? Or does the old PeerGuardian still work?

>>106202374
It's trivial to distinguish between low quality youtube rips and high quality files.
>muh fake flacs
very uncommon

>>106202373
So, I don't get it. Old p2p software to share pirate music, but it has a server which blocks certain search words?

>>106202402
If your VPN does not have port forwarding it will only make things worse. Soulseek will hide results from other users who do not forward their port. I say you should just raw dog that shit.

>>106202405
You say trivial, I say time consuming.

>>106202402
nobody cares what you download on soulseek n

>>106202367
late stages of aol i was connecting to it over dsl. also the aol server rooms usually had full albums and they were well organized and it was always a good connection.

>>106202444
I actually met a guy who organized them at one point and helped email a bunch of tracks. It was a weird piracy side quest I did for fun. I got nothing out of it of course. I already knew about XDCC and the scene.

>>106202414
yeah you got it, not sure where the block lays in the whole web of things, but easy to get around as other anons have mentioned by typing *eatles instead of beatles, also "slskd" exists which is quite a nice addition for easily downloading music if you have a home server

>>106200990 (OP)
The solution is to stop being poor and buy your own music. Used CDs can go lower than $1.

>>106202479
All the CDs that are $1 are very easy to pirate in flawless quality. One I couldn't find today is going for $50+ on Discogs. Imagine paying that for a 70s "album" with only 7 tracks. I totally would buy a bunch of stuff like that just to complete my collection but I know better.

>>106200990 (OP)
go to /ptg/ and get in the music trackers. soulseek is aweomse but it's kind of past its use by date now

>>106202471
no one got anything out of it. i often wondered who was doing this for no reward but here i am seeding 40TB of torrents 25 years later

>>106202516
40TB all time upload, or 40TB of shared files? If it's the second that's quite a lot.

This is all Roc Nation's fault. One day that evil company will be gone for good

>>106202516
The guy I talked to was telling me the whole lore of how the stuff worked. You couldn't just use any AOL account to do it. Newer ones had limitations placed on them that prevented them from doing the mass emailing activity. So he was always looking for ways to get the old accounts that were grandfathered in.

>>106202569
Okay Nicki it's time to lay off the coke.

>>106202479
At the local music shops they usually run for $2~4 from the bargain bin and either $5, $10, or $15 for anything used and desirable. I'm poor as fuck but I still go every other month when I'm not horrifically strapped for cash and grab like $50 worth. It's not economical compared to sucking off Spotify, but it also doesn't shit out when I go to the big concrete and steel deadzone my work is at, so it all evens out.

>>106200990 (OP)
dropped soulseek long ago. I just download mp3s from YouTube now, has a much more diverse library and no elitist retards that completely miss the point of file sharing.

>>106202938
>when I go to the big concrete and steel deadzone my work is at

>>106203001
>YouTube has a much more diverse library
that's a lie

>>106202938
>>At the local music shops
wish i still had those
used to have so many specialty stores in walking distance growing up
all gone now

>>106203001
zoomers dont understand that gatekeeping your files is fully retarded

>>106203108
they don't have files to gatekeep
if anything they make it worse by going on tiktok to blab about everything as soon as they hear about it and finally figure out how to do it

zoomers stop shitting up everything they come across

>>106203016
True and real.
>>106203054
I try to patronize them while I still have the chance to.

>>106202547
upload is way over 40 tb, i was doing a terabye a month 20 years ago

>>106202580
everything about this is wrong. source: lived it

>>106200990 (OP)
>has begun
Fucking retarded newfag.

>>106204063
if you were aware of it before then you have shit taste.

>>106204103
Sure. Back to tiktok now retard.

>>106204124
suck my balls faggot

I've had this 2-3 times over the past year or so. Cat Power was one of them (shut up). I don't recall it being at all difficult to work around, just omit the artist name and search with album and track. If it's a super generic term it might take a while, I guess.

why do they care abouy copyright trolls. just sell soulseek and have the new owner host it somewhere remote and protected

>>106202479
I collect CDs but it's a pretty significant undertaking especially when you're looking for rare-ish stuff that only had a few pressings in the 80s or 90s or some shit like that.

>>106201092
>>106201517
Don't leave us guessing.

>>106200990 (OP)
Most people here are way too picky and spoiled by prosperity. It is such a non-problem. I go to Youtube and I get all my music from there. Beside that, there are tons of websites where you can get music for free and completely legal like bassblog.pro. Quality? Youtube audio quality is still objectively better than vinyl records and audio tapes. You are just spoiled brats with no problems in life.

My parents have a big collection of disks with music that's not English, AccurateRip database reports 0 matches for most of them, but I had some hits on classical music discs, proving that I am ripping the tracks perfectly correctly.
However, I am not a wintoddler or mactoddler, so I cannot just add EAC or XLD log to my upload, and why would something retarded like that even matter? Anyway, my point is that some wintoddler could potentially trump my uploads if logless uploads were even allowed on RED or OPS, so why the fuck would I even want to share my relatively obscure music files there when they want me to use proprietary bullshit?
>Oooh 99.99% of our users are retarded shiteaters who will fuck up ripping a CD despite it being a single click of a button in a shitty GUI and you VILL provide proprietary logs that don't even prove anything.
Why would I even want to join this tech illiterate retarded babyduck cult?

Is there anything like Soulseek that's not cucked?

>>106200990 (OP)
Banned bands have always been a thing. I believe it's The Beatles that were always banned because he dude knows he'll get sued. So you have to search for non-popular song titles to get around it.

Obsessed with zoomers
Somehow tied it to tiktok award
Insufferable millennial medal

soulseek will be fine

>>106205047
EAC works in wine.

>>106200990 (OP)
woah that's a neat tool unfortunately I'm too much of an autist to trust automated download tools to grab the best release but it's cool to know it exists

>>106200990 (OP)
>has begun
lol banned search terms have been a thing on slsk for decades already and it only applies to a small set of mainstream artists. the workaround is to search for a song title from the album you want, rather than the artist/album name.

>>106204752
I am archiving. I am distributing files so people can make their own encodes from lossless sources. Whether you want 128k opus, v0 mp3, or 320k AAC I don't give a fuck. I'll give you the FLAC files so you can encode it however you want. Storage is getting cheaper. Bandwidth limitations are evaporating. Therefore it makes sense to do this now.

just take the RED/OPS interviews already

can i just say it makes me really happy when flacs that i downloaded from deezer get called fake from the rocket scientists on soul seek

>>106208702
Meanwhile on RED or OPS they would just get marked as lossy mastered and everyone goes about their day not worrying about it.

>>106201361
>Soulseek is still dying.
For what other reason, then? I'm curious.

seems pretty lively to me, and no amount of making the equivalent of steam usercharts threads can change that

eMule is open and rely on a solid protocol (kademlia which has been used for many other things like torrent). We don't need soulseek.

>>106200990 (OP)
I stopped using it because it didn't had punjabi songs

>>106200990 (OP)
Kek, I can imagine their reaction to the faggots in the default chatroom. It's full of retarded, schizophrenic namefag-tier users that seem to be on 24/7. They're a riot. Bunch of faggots.
>>106202473
I haven't used SLSK for a while now since I haven't bothered downloading any new music so I don't know the full extent of the situation; but is everyone using the default client, or the alternate one?

>>106200990 (OP)
>mossad spyware is dying
good

it's honestly much easier to just search an album name and blogspot or serach the mu archives

>>106208913
is eMule still alive?!

>>106209317
Nicotine is especially popular with the slsk users here. Lots of people are starting to shift to slskd, especially private torrent tracker users with seedboxes. Faster speeds mean you show up at the top of the searches, and if you are using RED/OPS you have high quality files so we become distribution nodes for popular content. But yeah I have a lot of experience with slsk chat. I met some solid people there but many of them are the biggest losers I ever met in my life. It's not moderated at all which means nobody can be removed for being a complete faggot.

>>106207319
Me too, but it has a flag to make album downloads interactive. So you get good default sorting while still being able to select what you want.

>>106209328
>mossad spyware
Even if it was I use unofficial clients so what do I care?

>>106202168
>The last p2p software left standing
it's not.

>>106202305
>P2P existed alongside it.
p2p arrived years later. remarkably, irc dcc is still a thing in 2025 and used a lot by people in countries where just using bittorrent will get them a fine.

>>106209350
yep.

>>106209438
The others aren't worth mentioning. I don't give one single fuck about Swedish faggots who won't let you join their DC++ server unless you are sharing 4TB+ of rared scene content. Nor do I care about digging through the digital ruins of other obsolete platforms. Soulseek has people actually using it and it's accessible.

>>106203278
They can't help it, it's their nature

>>106200990 (OP)
It's bizarre that copyright holders still care about files and p2p sharing. How many still use it? Probably less than 1%

>>106208913
Oh, eMule, I'm feeling nostalgic now. But there was a big problem with fake files and malware, from what I remember.

>>106206226
Certified Millennial who unironically uses TikTok here (not going back)
Spotify and other music streaming apps started ID-ing people with the UK shit and many of the comments of those videos complaining about it I've seen have the top comments of "just use soulseek" if not spot-dl to leave Spotify, it's not made up shit
Used iPods are going up in price too because of these exact same people trying to rally others to go back to local music (instead of just using their phone's music playing app they want to be trendy and use a ""vintage"" device)
It's all a fad, it'll go away and they'll all be back on in a week or two.

>Soulseek
>p2p
>censored
what the actual fuck? just use an uncensored client or fork lmao

>>106211902
Not possible. The server itself filters those searches. Better to just work around it like everyone has been doing for 10+ years.

Damn I haven't used soulseek for at least a decade.

>>106212092
Clients could probably work around by encrypting searches and filenames. If they wanted to.

>>106208593
how long will i need to idle in irc?

>>106212092
>p2p
>the server
It's not p2p then.

>>106212205
The file transfers are p2p. The searches are not. This model is called "centralized" p2p versus the now basically dead "decentralized" p2p networks like Gnutella.

>>106212215
Why did all decentralized p2p networks die?

>>106212235
Soulseek excels at it's niche because it's just single threaded person to person transfers. That works for people who want to download albums not single tracks, even though the few people out there who still want to use p2p the old fashioned normie way and just download songs not albums are now clinging to soulseek. There's the obvious, the elephant in the room, streaming. But changes in music consumption patterns didn't just apply to normalfags using streaming. Piracy has shifted too. People want whole albums in FLAC. They don't want to piece them together track by track ripped from different sources with varying volume levels/different mastering making transitions between tracks sound jarring. It's about keeping a library of quality music these days. Not downloading a few songs to burn a mix CD.

I don't have admin access to the router I use, so can't open ports to share share anything using my Win machine, but if I install Nicotine with Linux, I don't suppose there's a way to share without fucking around with the router?

Long shot but thought I'd ask anyway.

>>106212313
If you're lucky upnp will work.

>>106212283
I don't see why decentralized p2p should be incompatible with downloading full albums. Isn't that just a matter of UI?

>>106212333
Well it technically isn't. There's nothing stopping you from sharing albums over BitTorrent DHT which is exactly that and is well suited to the application. It's kinda janky looking for albums on btdig or whatever though compared to downloading directly from someone on soulseek who is online right now and has no queue. Waiting for albums to download isn't a big deal these days either so single threaded connections are fine. When I download from private torrent trackers it takes seconds for me to get an album. On Soulseek it's 5 minutes on average. That's not terrible.

>>106212324
Didn't work on Windows, but I'll give it ago with Nic just in case. Thanks for the reminder.

>>106212313
I don't have open ports and still get the occasional upload. Peers with open ports will be able to download from you.

>>106212505
The thing that fucks you with not having open ports is that results from users who also don't have them will be hidden in searches. I can't do anything about it because my ISP is CGNAT so running soulseek on my seedbox is the way to go.

>>106212535
The results from users who have open ports are enough. The ones with closed ports typically have lower quality and fewer shares anyways.

>>106212561
Well I personally was sharing lots of high quality material and hunting for rare stuff. If slskd existed a long time ago I probably could have obtained more.

>>106206226
soulseek was trending on tiktok some time ago.