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defcon/blackhat are a joke now.

completely industry run and Jeremy is 100% right. It's gross what it's turned into. At the same time, Jeremy is a fucking goof, but on this matter he's correct.

hacker culture has moved on from these conferences. The people who go there now are are just cybersecurity careerists looking to get 'training' and CPE credits for their lame certifications and feel like they are part of something cool - which they aren't. And the speakers, while often sharing interesting research, simply do so to further their careers and gain clout and build their linkedin resume so they can go to their next cushy job where they make 250K a year solving cybersecurity problems for big banks and the military.

We're so far removed from 'hacker culture' at this point its comical. We have a whole generation of cybersecurity 'experts' who know nothing about the origins of hacking, its counterculture movement, its opposition to authority, capitalism. It's just a nice job nowadays and most people in this field dont give a shit about any social problems they are here for fat paycheques.

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Jermy Hammond is an idiot. He always has and always will be.

Jermy Hammond is such an idiot he thinks he was arrested for hacking when pretty much he was given all the commands to run by the actual hackers then snitched on to the FBI by those hackers who gave him the commands, and he was their fall guy. Jermy did close to 20 years in prison, they did not.

Jermy Hammond's talk 20 years ago at DEF CON was a joke. How did Jermy's talk get approved? Pretty much most DEFCON talks were universally terrible back then. Jermy didn't present any research or share any knowledge. His talk wasn't even political, it was an anarchy talk that was a call for hackers to destroy IT systems, including those systems belonging to emergency response organizations and hospitals. About 25 minutes into his talk 20 years ago a goon came up (talks were done in rooms back then, not stages like they are now) who was an older guy, told Jermy in front of the audience that DEFCON does not in any way endorse statements made by Jermy to destroy IT systems, especially those that belong to hospitals, then went on to name the specifics where people actually died in past incidents due to hospital IT systems being damaged.

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Supposedly Jermy gave all the data from the hack to Wikileaks. Now picture this scenario... Jermy was arrested AFTER he gave the data to wikileaks and BEFORE wikileaks released it. Wikileaks had a perfect opportunity to use that data as a bargaining chip... as realistic or unrealistic that may have played out... But wikileaks could have agreed to destroy the data to help Jermy not get 20 years in prison. Did wikileaks even try? Fuck no they didn't... Infact, in the most uncaring, not giving a shit who gets burned, and most tone deaf way possible, wikileaks released all of the data supposedly stolen by Jeremy, a week before his sentencing hearing. The end result... A 20 year federal prison bid.

EFF supported this dick weed through their "courage fund." Don’t even get me started on EFF and their bullshit.

There is no talking sense to Jermy. Many have tried. He is an idiot. Just make fun of him.

How the fuck did his parole officer even approve him going to DEFCON is beyond me...


thoughts?

Defcon has always been whitehat faggots trying to get daddy government to give them a pat on the back. This dude is a retarded clown and he's just saying what everyone has already known for the past 20 years, hacking "culture" died with mass internet adoption and the super cool blackhat guys were just phone phreakers and braindead anarchists.

>>106204458 (OP)
too bad, seems like prison broke him and all he's doing is screeching at whatever the TV says is bad. That isn't hacker culture at all. He isn't opposed to authority he's opposed to what the TV says is bad

>>106204540
>>106204577
more comments:

related: not a single mention/talk about israeli hacking in this entire conference? nso/pegasus? the whatsapp hack? that’s how you know who this conference is affiliated with and who it’s trying to protect


Indeed. From DT's keynote rewriting DefCon history to make it sound like its always been about infosec and working with the Feds, to Nakasone talking about working together to deny AI to "autocratic regimes", with DT nodding along, minutes after DT announced new DefCon locations ....... at the autocratic regimes of Bahrain and Singapore. DefCon has been bought and paid for and nobody is even trying to hide it anymore.

The most corrupt presidency in US history and people trying to normalise co-operation with the feds. But the bootlickers in this thread will continue to bang on about "no politics in hacking" and why working with the US Feds is somehow good - while those same Feds continue to illegally arrest and deport anyone who's a bit brown, while arresting hackers at the borders and refusing them entry to the US.

I was in the front and he was screaming at the goons and I thought “well he’s going to get ejected”. Over and done.

I got video of him yelling free palestine.

I was in the room near the front for this. Security was likely already a little anxious having the bomb sniffing dog clear an unaccompanied bag in front of the stage like 20 min prior. He would have been fine if he didn't aggressively start walking towards the speaker as he left the stage, that's when they put hands on him and removed him. He told security "DEFCON better have metal detectors next year" as he was dragged out; not cool.

>not green texting all this shit

>>106204540
>hacking "culture" died with mass internet adoption and the super cool blackhat guys were just phone phreakers and braindead anarchists.
true, i think it was around the time hackers wanted fame and fortune and would bathe in bragging rights and all this cringe tier behavior. also back then software updates werent as frequent, exploits would stay stable for a long time, now everything updates so quickly

>>106204458 (OP)
>homophobic slurs
say the word, faggot
that's why nobody takes you seriously anymore
fucking faggots scared of words

>>106204458 (OP)
>earth's gayest faggot whines about the problems he causes himself by being a fag
He stole some credit card numbers from a poorly secured site which served as a cutout for Fox News to try to get people to protest in favor of more wars. Protest Warrior had like fifteen people at it's peak, and achieved nothing of value because Fox News sending a handful of Jews to anti-war protests so they could hold up signs that said "Akshully, war good" was never going to have any relevant cultural or social impact.

He wasted his life being in jail for idiotic reasons.

>>106204458 (OP)
"anti-establishment" hackers go deeper underground, since the entire internet is now a feddie playground.
or hackers become the real double agents now.
they just choose which country is the least facist.

we are clearly in a new era. with its new woke generation 50 years down the line to expose the absolute bullshit they subject us to today.
i can only see this as a good thing in the long run.

>>106204931
The hackerman you are imagining never really existed. It was a popculture ghost from the 80s-00s used to convince wimpy but smart kids to go into programming by making greasy nerds living in basements look cool and countercultural. You're romanticizing something that never existed outside of movies and TV.

>>106204471
>Jermy did close to 20 years in prison
7 years
>Jermy
Jeremy
Get the facts straight.

>>106204458 (OP)
didn't a NSA general give a talk there some years ago? and DT worked in the US government lmao
zionists corrupt everything by buying people and orgs with their money

then brainwashed retards like >>106204577 come and vomit their opinions in defense of the zionist establishment

i can't imagine living a life where this shit mattersl. learn to code and stop being a fucking loser turning computer science into fucking 90210.

>>106204970
kazaa, limewire, the piratebay, napster, tor, vpns, LOIC,
most hacking is about using mario maker now.
but the tools the hackers have given the public have been sufficiently addressed and contained by the establishment.
hacking AI to make it blame the jews for everything.
the estabalishment had since the 80's to address its vulnerabilities, and did so by enouraging hackers to come over to their side, and perform harmless hacks as pen testing.
Hackers have crippeled themselves now in the current meta becuase they released everything open source.
which means the establishment doesn't need to do any work in attaining weapons used against them to reverse engineer.
im sure cyberpunk shit glamourzied the digital freedom fighter/terrorist.
but theres a bunch of examples of actual hackers that struck a blow for the good guys.
but mainly for the lulz.

did they have a panel about the 4chan hack at DefCon?
Any of the 4chan mods show up to def con?

>>106204458 (OP)
>DEFCOON
>CYBERCOOMAND
>FEDCOON
>COONVENTION
I like these co* words that you can just coonvert into *oo* words.

>>106204745
I have a feeling it wasn't "faggot" they called him.
He can make you think it was faggot by saying "homophobic slurs", when actually it was something much milder that a normal person might not even consider a slur. Something he might say is "entrenched in homophobia".

>>106204484
unfathomably based

>>106204458 (OP)
>its opposition to capitalism
Hackers are commies?

>>106205049
>did they have a panel about the 4chan hack at DefCon?
>Any of the 4chan mods show up to def con?
not that I am seeing so far.
people may comment or make jokes at random tracks or villages, but most talks are submitted and approved before a deadline in May.

>>106204458 (OP)
Link your source(s) nig

>omg they called him words he won't say!!
>omg computer science and academia!!
>omg stop complaining
lmao @ this board

>it was a reddit thread all along
https://reddit.com/comments/1mlaw4s
OP certified faggot

>>106204458 (OP)
omg defcon is incredibly based, building military equipment is cool and I recommend it to people all the time.
I don't give a fuck about gaza, they hate white people like me, I won't lose any sleep knowing the stuff I make is used to kill them, not my fucking problem, if I'm not doing it then someone else will, anyways.
I'd rather work for glowies than being an unemployed bitter junkie who yell at cloud or something.
go back to jail you fucking l33t h4ckz0r, that's where he belong as a traitor

>>106205313
i do not post on redddit, i go where the information takes me.

do you see any threads here on the matter?
black hat / defon etc?
quit complaining

currently listening to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Eir8lysHA

why pay 500 when you can get the schedule and watch at home?
i do miss the villages though..

also listening to ask EFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu0sTyyqXkE

>>106205077
A zoomer called him a tranny

>>106205337
You are a nig for trying to obfuscate your source, not because it's reddit
Do you call yourself a hacker while failing to understand how the web works?

>>106204458 (OP)
what a cringe lord i would ban him from anything i am running

>>106204458 (OP)
>No goons or anyone from DEFCON offered any discussion or due process
>No goons
>goon

>DEFCON are glowies
>CCC are trannies
it's over

>>106205443
i copied this entire thread and made note of it all. you sure are a bad ass with google, if i wanted to obfuscate anything, you would never see it.
how ignorant are you?
rhetorical: stop speaking.

>>106205027
Grandpa no one knows what 90210 is
Are you actually old enough to have watched this shit?

>>106204458 (OP)
>look at us we’re so cool don’t you want to be like us
>nooo not like that

>>106205529
You outed yourself because it made a comeback right before Covid so unless you’re underage b&, you’re probably the grandpa.

>>106205529
then how do you know?

>>106205419
I doubt it. He's going to be swimming in this stuff deep enough to know that suggesting trans people are secretly homosexuals is not going to go over well with his usualy crowd.
It'll be something innocuous like "pansy". Otherwise he would have milked that they called him a faggot for everything he could.

>>106205649
I don’t pay attention to cable tv you underaged piece of shit
Especially during Covid you retard

>>106205656
90210 and Dawson creek weren’t on but were parodied in things like early family guy and other cartoons would reference 90210

>>106205528
>doesn't understand that copying instead of linking is not what the web is
Thanks for confirming that you are retarded

>>106205752
oh Jesus, you keep going. this is why i rarely post anything remotely interesting on /g/ anymore, dumb asses like you complaining and thinking i will not run circles around you.
you are the one that complained like a girl about the source, like you cannot find it your damn self you lazy pos, then you find it by searching the title, and act like you are some kind of ereet hax0r that understands the net on some deep level.
go 127.0.0.1
and
shut
the
fuck
up
whiny little bitch
(and you linked to reddit)
who is REALLY the faggot?
no more (You)s for you, attention seeking twerp

>>106204458 (OP)
free palestine shit. i support his removal. there's no link between hacking and palestine.

>>106204458 (OP)
THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwX-KS1816c

>>106204458 (OP)
And nothing of value was lost. Palisoys stay losing.
>opposition to capitalism
lol

>>106205848
>there's no link between hacking and palestine.
anon you fucking retard, most of the world's best spyware developers are israeli

>>106205705
>before Covid
>during Covid
These are two different things you retarded piece of shit. Keep reeeing.

>>106206042
I think you’re the retarded one, Ahmed.

>hackers unironically went and created their ted-talk reddit meeting show and then pretended like it wouldn't attract glowies and corporate shills
?????? I thought """hackers""" were supposed to be smart or something

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>they called us homophobic slurs
based goons

>>106204458 (OP)
>muh fascism
lol

>>106206437
it has always had feds and it wasn't an issue. the wild stuff at defcon happens (happened?) outside the conference sessions anyway.

>>106206437
in any group, there's always this type of social layer. sometimes its good to organize and get together but without an aggressive purpose, it just ends up in a lot of useless chatter which is most conventions