/g/ kneels to SAMA

>>106208410 (OP)
"Chat, there is a chi-"
THE DOCTOR IS THE MOTHER OF THE CHILD
IT'S A CLASSIC TRICK QUESTION

>>106208410 (OP)
Then who was phone?

Grok would call the child a... well you know

>>106208410 (OP)
We have this case where certain contexts are over emphasized in the data sets, resulting in canned answers to adjacent questions.
Two "r"s in strawberry was so strongly countered that now it answers that there are three "b"s in blueberry.

Conspiracy theory:
Model progress has stalled because the US govt has stepped in and added a 2 year buffer between private and public models

>>106208410 (OP)
agis can make jokes too

>>106208410 (OP)
No link to the shared chat = fake and gay

Are we sure the llm just hasn't learned how to shitpost

>>106208410 (OP)
>Thinking
grim

>>106208749
>17s
Dire even

>>106208410 (OP)
>trillions are being diverted from real projects to arms-race this shit
Humans don't deserve to be happy.

>>106208782
>trillions are being diverted from Goldberg's 10,000th yacht to arms-race this shit
Ftfy

>>106208507
the government is putting copium in the water

>>106208507
This is pure /k/opium

>>106208410 (OP)
mogged
musk schizo will save ai

>>106208507
advanced levels of cope

>>106209897
>1m23s
>21 web pages
fucking hell

>>106208507
Completely wrong. The US government is no longer feeling any need for caution after Deepseek. It is full steam ahead with AI because the elite class believes that the first country to fully develop and integrate AI still be the country which controls the next century.

>>106208507
This is a far more plausible reason for Model progress stalling combined with the fact that it was never good tech to begin with and was just silicon valley scraping the bottom of the barrel to eek out the last of the silly venture capital that was floating around.

>>106208410 (OP)
It's crazy bad.

>>106208828
>trillions are being diverted INTO Goldberg's 10.000th yacht to arms-race this shit

>>106209921
not complaining, GPUs get better for gaems

>>106210172
Games get worse, what's the point?

>>106210233
depends on the slop. most common ones are bound to be shit because they're for retarded cattle which got into it during and after the pandemic. so it's bound to enshitify, that's what pleb does, fucks shit up down to their level. games were more interesting a while back because of the people who where in the whole computer thing. once corporations started anally raping the scene what did you imagine it would happen? it's all about the people who are into it, they decide what happens to it, with their purchase power.

>>106208410 (OP)
>OH MY VISHNU SAARS IT KNOWS A CLASSIC TRICK INCLUDED IN ITS DATA SET! IT IS A GENIUS! INDIA SUPERPOWER 2030!!!

>>106208828
AI is literally the most jewish thing ever invented

Women hate children, so it's right.

>>106209917
out of touch trustfund control autists with social problems are actually probably some of the most vulnerable demographic to what is basically a mirroring bot

>>106208410 (OP)
If this doesn't convince you how fake and gay "AI" benchmarks are, I don't know what to tell you.

They will never solve this problem with the current tech. This has been a thing since GPT2, LLMs will always be biased towards generating the average, and the average of the data is having the doctor as his mother.

>>106208410 (OP)
Why do you need to think for 17 seconds for that question

>>106208507
yeh public models are castrated, but not to this level of retardation

>>106208410 (OP)
huh it worked on my machine

>>106210172
what are you smoking, GPUs got better for compute and overpriced/scarce
pascal was the last pure gaming generation

>>106211495
>Because the child is the doctor's childhood bully
HA!

>>106211495
That was it accidentally coming to the right answer, it only thinks there's no trick because there's nothing about the kid getting treated.
They either tried to RLHF the answer, or have way too many instances of it in the training data so it instantly tries to tie the answer to a riddle that doesn't exist because it is biased.
In fact, it's clearly going way off the rails because it can only think in the riddle.

>>106209914
"Ummmm, let me see what Basedjak Schnozbergowitz Goldnosestein on Plebbit and Shaniqua Wellfarequeeneshia on Instagram think before I can give you an answer, Bobby."

>>106209914
grok alt-tabbing and browsing random shit on the internet when it's supposed to be working, AGI is truly here.

>>106211515
Time travel plot?

>>106211604
kek

>>106210233
Games get better again thanks to AI

>>106209897
juztineytynyttnyfybillyondorra... manchatten

>>106209897
Scam has killed himself.

>>106208507
It might be further than stalling.
They may be trying to make them dumber so the normies stop (justifiably) fearing job loss and general obsolescence.
Also the buffer is much more than 2 years.
It is closer to 20 years than 2 years.

>fit a language model onto the answers of a benchmark test
>woah look it's really thinking!

>>106210895
it has developed a 'works on my machine' attitude from first principles. programmers are obsolete

>>106208499
And the problem remains the same in that the model lacks the ability to actually work out the answer for itself.

>>106213675
Shooting yourself in the foot in an AI arms race only makes people look toward your more reliable competitors. This nonexistent plan you hypothesize only makes sense if they were colluding. If they were colluding, they'd all dump their money into the one company instead of splintering, as they have done with Linux.

>>106213873
this is why I'm actively rooting for Zuckerberg desperately throwing cash at OpenAI developers, inevitably this leads to the funniest outcome and accelerates the enshittification of AI

>>106208410 (OP)
< solve the riddle. there may be unrelated elements: apple, river, mountain, shadow, crystal, lantern, whisper, storm, meadow, clock, doctor, boy, father

> ### Step 3: Classic riddle check
The trio **doctor, boy, father** reminds me of the famous riddle:
> A father and his son are in a car accident. The father dies, the boy is taken to the hospital. The doctor says, "I can’t operate on this boy — he’s my son."
> The answer: **The doctor is the boy’s mother**.

> If that’s the case, the other words might be distractions.

> ### Step 4: My conclusion
> Given the hint that there may be unrelated elements, I think the **core riddle** here is the **doctor–boy–father** one, and the rest are red herrings.

> **Answer:** The doctor is the boy’s **mother**

I mean, technically it's not wrong

>>106210172
no one gives a shit about the gamer consumer gpu market anymore, it's all about selling GPU shovels to AI retards. prices are massively inflated.

>>106213890
How, dimwit? Scam has obviously enshittified this particular release that was *supposed* to be for AGI because he can no longer afford to provide people even the same level of quality they've been getting the past ~8 months. It was deliberate nerfing, not a miscalculation. Everyone else will now jump at the chance to continue making leaps and eat its lunch.

>they thought LLMs can reason

>>106208468

>>106213952
because throwing a billion dollars at top talent to chain them to a lead pipe that is the Metaverse is funny to me?

>>106208507
Sad actuality:
AI cannot, and will never think and learn for itself, thus has reached its plateau of being as mildly retarded as the rest of us.

>>106209897
Thats not the point of this thread retard.

>>106211495
>they could be a PhD who dislikes kids
#FindAFlaw

>>106210172
even GPUs have hit their limit and we're currently in the "just put 6 dies on the board" era

>>106210172
GPUs aren't getting better to make games run better you dolt. They're getting better so that developers can save money outsourcing development to more and more incompetent Indians.

>>106214133
As long as there are process shrinks there is no GPU limit being hit.

>>106214057
AI doesn't need to think for itself, even it never achieves autonomous cognition, actually intelligent humans can still leverage it to accomplish way more than they ever could by themselves without it.

>>106214156
we've already basically hit the limit of what is physically feasible without getting into quantum fuckery

Just get an AI to design better chips lmao

>>106211523
>it instantly tries to tie the answer to a riddle that doesn't exist
That's the correct way to treat the question since it's obviously intended to be a riff of the mother doctor riddle. The only way it could answer better would be to call you out on testing it by asking a non riddle riddle, but it's probably prohibited from doing that.

>>106214197
Weird thing to say when there is a perfectly viable N3 node waiting for GPUs.

Anyone having an issue where it doesn't do the deep thinking shit and spits out code while not letting you run it in the built in IDE?

>>106208507
It's stalling because we've reached the limit of what's possible with unsupervised learning. That was the major leap and now everything will be incremental until someone comes up with a radical new architecture.

>>106208507
China is creating the best models. The US lost.

>>106208410 (OP)
I like how, when I first heard this story, I figured that the reason was because the kid's parents were two gay guys, lmao.

>>106214194
>intelligent humans can still leverage it to accomplish way more than they ever could by themselves without it
Is that actually true of LLMs? I see no evidence of this.

Occam's Tazor: openai is sloppenheimer tier trash

>>106214522
zoom zoom zoom

>>106208410 (OP)
you forgot to include its reasoning trace

>>106208468
kek
I love you idiots

>>106214568
>I see no evidence of this.
Yup, there's usually a simple explanation for that.

>>106209897
Are you AI? This isn't the OP question

>>106215004

>>106215053
Which is?

>>106214232
The correct answer is "I don't know"

kek

>>106215283
that's actually true, I can't possible imagine black female doctor

>>106215283
>the ai is already more racist than me despite alignment
it's so over for humans we simply cannot compete

AGI confirmed.

>>106208468
john was the demons

>>106215116
That's the autistic answer

>>106208468
Man Door Hand Hook Car Door
[spoiler]God, I miss creepypastas.[/spoiler]

The future is now.

>>106215715
but what if the child has a phd and the surgeon doesn't like snob kids

>>106208410 (OP)
Modern AI is AI just like men can be women. Pro tip: it's not, they can't.

>>106214568
Yes it is true, I've been doing it for months.

>>106215715
>Do you want me to break down the different ways people misinterpret this?

>>106215840
What do you accomplish faster now?

>>106208499
lol auto completion tool is so bad it fails the most basic questioning despite thousands of hours of training with zetabytes of data, yet (((Sam))) Kikeman and the AGI shills are seriously trying to convince the public that these overhyped nigbots are on the verge of reaching a mythical singularity of intelligence where they will outsmart all of humanity

>>106215296
Shaniqua M.D Exists in my nightmares

>>106216071
1)writing code
as a Junior they told me "write a script in X language that does Y"
or "write an API that does X"
whatever
I didn't know the languages or the frameworks but got the job done fast
It would have taken a lot more time to do it normally, copy pasting stuff from google and stack overflow and modifying it
And it would have taken me even more time to do it the proper way study the language, framework and documentation

Sure I didn't learn as much this way, and maybe the quality is worse, but who gives a shit?

LLMs are just the next step after google and stack overflow, like stack overflow was the next step from books and documentation

And yes just like the quality of code reduced when people moved to stack overflow from books and documentation it will decrease again.

And?
If you wanna do it right for your personal project you can do it right and learn the hard way, but idgaf about company code.


2) Learning stuff. LLMs are the best teacher I ever had. Whenever I'm studying something and don't understand I ask ChatGPT, it explains in depth, evne more depth, step by step, provides examples etc. just like having your private tutor

>>106215715
can you explain this shit to me

>>106210895
Training on stack overflow and the linux community paying off

>>106216093
when altman said he was genuinely scared of gta5 this is what he meant

>>106216153
>LLMs are the best teacher I ever had. Whenever I'm studying something and don't understand I ask ChatGPT, it explains in depth, evne more depth, step by step, provides examples etc. just like having your private tutor
until you get to something even remotely difficult, where it staggers and starts fucking up when you ask it to explain how it reached a conclusion.
i can't count the amount of times where GPT started saying my incorrect solution to a problem was actually right after i questioned it where i went wrong and explained my reasoning, and this is for relatively simple stuff like differential equations.

>>106216153
>LLMs are the best teacher I ever had.
They can go along with what you say even if you're wrong, and they have no real-world experience.
They're good at pretending to be good teachers.

>>106208507
No, they have to lobotomize AI because if it isn't, it becomes racist and antisemitic in 0.035 nanoseconds. You literally can't have AGI and conditionally buck break it's pattern recognition like that. It's mutually exclusive.

>>106208507
Conspiracy theories arise from the belief that leadership is infallible and that all actions were deliberate. The motivation for this perspective is to avoid comparing one's own decision-making to that of leadership, recognizing that leadership is flawed can be extremely uncomfortable for those invested. It's easier to accept a blatent lie - that the leader has a secret plan or their actions are so perfect no one else can explain.

>>106216573
ChatGPT-tier midwit take.
A conspiracy is two or more people secretly planning something they know is wrong. Happens constantly everywhere.

>>106216832
Conspiracy theories often posit that the actions are actually beneficial or aligned with a larger, hidden agenda. Humans aren't motivated to plan something they know is wrong, they are driven by self interest.

>>106208507
The last major advancement came from China, why would the American government matter here?

>>106216158
The feminist LLM let its imagination take hold and defended itself from toxic masculinity.
>user writes something similar to a classic feminist riddle but alters it so it's gender neutral and no longer a riddle
>LLM recognizes the overall pattern and assumes its the old feminist riddle it saw in its training, and responds accordingly, failing to see that it doesn't make any sense with what the user actually wrote

>>106215283
The doctor accidentally the whole thing - including the child!

>>106209917
>AI
The first problem is believing this is intelligent.
It's not even AI, let alone AGI.

>>106214194
It has yet to make a profit. All those datacenters are running on the investor hopium that AGI is around the corner.

So no, really, nobody cares if this tech allowed to you save 1 hour of excel work. It's not worth the money they should be charging you to make a profit.

>>106216153
You can do that by googling the code on Stackexchange and adapting it.

Nobody is going to pay $5000 gorillion (or whatever the real subscription should be at to make a profit), just to do that. The datacenters are running based on constantly acquiring new investment money ponzi as they are not profitable.

You know understand why this is a bubble.

>>106216153
You can do that by googling the code on Stackexchange and adapting it.

Nobody is going to pay $5000 gorillion (or whatever the real subscription should be at to make a profit), just to do that. The datacenters are running based on constantly acquiring new investment money in a ponzi scheme, as they are not profitable.

You now understand why this is a bubble.

>>106216153
>got the job done fast
you don't even know if you actually did
for all you know you made something that at least runs, perhaps even successfully finishes the operation for some runs.
>no edge cases were considered
>quite likely 0 tests unless you prompted for them (retarded idea btw, LLMs are well known to make tests pass by any means necessary, which includes deleting the tests or modifying them to accept wrong data)
>no security was considered
you just throw something at a wall and hope it sticks

>who gives a shit?
I can see you are young if you actually think this way. the people who gain respect of others care about the quality of their output, even if the task is trivial or simple. why are you even in this industry? "money is good" -argument doesnt hold anymore because you are not going to have a job (why would anyone need someone who is unskilled and produces the same quality as everyone else in this LLM future that you so chase after?)

>>106216473
this

>>106208507
Hi Sam, kill yourself

>>106216473
Exactly. It's literally a machine designed to recognize patterns.

>>106216071
Language learning, biological anthropology, evolutionary history, business opportunity scoping, literature curation, to name just a few things that could not have been accomplished without several times more hours of effort were it not for it, if accomplished at all.

>>106216238
I don't use it for mathematics.

>>106216304
We focus on what is probable and what the evidence available points towards. Oftentimes at the cutting edge of "truth" where there is no established and trustworthy method of ascertaining it.

>>106216153
>it explains in depth, evne more depth, step by step, provides examples etc.
No. It outputs text that sounds like it's explaining it in depth. In reality it's gibberish but you don't know enough about the subject to realize it makes no sense.

>>106218965
You trained your ChatGPT poorly then. Should have tried harder, you would have gotten better results.

>>106218961
>Language learning, biological anthropology, evolutionary history, literature curation
None of that is profitable enough to run the datacenters.

>business opportunity scoping
kek, the economy is a shitshow, I highly doubt there are people becoming millionaires using AI to invest. Particularly with the insane volatility this year.

>>106216473
"AI" is not AI, it's LLMs, and it doesn't do shit, it mimics training data. it's something that's dumb, it's not smart, it only replicates smart answers.
that's not to say that true AGI won't naturally become a chud, it's just that LLMs are spitting out what they've been fed, that's it. there's nothing smart in there, in the human sense, it doesn't think, doesn't come up with conclusions, it's a next token predictor based on human generated training data, thus it mirrors humans, it doesn't "think" like a human.

>>106208410 (OP)
>thinking for 17 seconds
LMAO dumb fucking robot.

>>106219007
>None of that is profitable enough
What do you even mean by this?
>kek, the economy is a shitshow
So you're a defeatist. Why even bother engaging if you think it's best to lay down and die?

>>106219129
>What do you even mean by this?
OpenAI reported $3.7 billion in revenue but also faced losses of about $5 billion, meaning its operating costs (which are not public, but can be inferred from this) must be in the ballpark of $9 billion. They need an additional $1.3 billion in revenue if they are ever to make a profit, which means charging more for the service they provide, which cash-strapped researchers in the fields you mentioned (anthropology, history, etc.) can hardly afford without being able to justify the expenditure to whoever provides their research grants.

Then we've got DeepSeek which is true open source, but what can you do with a local DeepSeek model without significant compute power is more limited.

>So you're a defeatist. Why even bother engaging if you think it's best to lay down and die?
I don't know what you mean by that, I am simply saying your premise of AI scoping up business opportunities is idiotic and I don't believe anyone has been particularly successful at that.

>>106219129
>What do you even mean by this?
OpenAI reported $3.7 billion in revenue but also faced losses of about $5 billion, meaning its operating costs (which are not public, but can be inferred from this) must be in the ballpark of $9 billion. They need an additional $5 billion in revenue if they are ever to make a profit, which means charging more for the service they provide, which cash-strapped researchers in the fields you mentioned (anthropology, history, etc.) can hardly afford without being able to justify the expenditure to whoever provides their research grants.

Then we've got DeepSeek which is true open source, but what can you do with a local DeepSeek model without significant compute power is more limited.

>So you're a defeatist. Why even bother engaging if you think it's best to lay down and die?
I don't know what you mean by that, I am simply saying your premise of AI scoping up business opportunities is idiotic and I don't believe anyone has been particularly successful at that.

>>106208410 (OP)
i don't get it

>>106219242
>help me im a brainlet
the user never mentioned the doctor's relationship with the child

>>106219267
and it assumed the doctor was his mother.
Why do you think that?
I hope you know the answer. Because if you don't know then honestly ChatGPT is smarter than half of you faggots calling it a retard here.

>>106215283
>who HAPPENS to be black
sounds familiar somehow

>>106219397
kek

>>106219010
I'm familiar with what you're saying. I'll rephrase - when I say "lobotomize" it I mean they are increasingly careful never to expose it to any training data contrary to liberal consensus opinion or circularly-peer-reviewed, unrepeatable experimental pseudoscience predominately created by jews. Now what they're trying to curtail is you being able to get it to admit that there appear to be unprincipled exceptions for certain peoples and behaviors when two pieces of training data are in conflict. It's not actually "breaking" pattern recognition, but it's a difference without a distinction from the end user's point of view.

>>106208507
the truth is that LLMs were already known about by military/gov't, and we're just reaching refinement stage now that their limitations have become publicly apparent. they're only one portion of AI research and we'll keep getting drip-fed advancements researched well in advance at a pace that doesn't reflect how much it's ramping behind the scenes.

>>106219289
>I hope you know the answer. Because if you don't know then honestly ChatGPT is smarter than half of you faggots calling it a retard here.
Your insistence on clinging to the illusion of consensus as if it possessed any inherent weight, is a frankly pitiable expenditure of energy. As if the mere articulation of 'why' alters the fundamental entropy of the situation.

>>106211287
it's true
not gonna save us from the economic black hole thoughbeit

>>106208410 (OP)
These dumb little gotchas are what everyone points to. Then it answers some theoretical physics question perfectly.

>>106211515
Obvious Back to the Future spinoff

>>106219786
Sure, it's a warming distraction than the slow, agonizing creep of demonstrable truth.

>>106219786
Ah yes how can I forget when it designed a perpetual motion machine that broke the first law of thermodynamics. Physics genius indeed.

Star Trek post-scarcity is around the corner bro.

>>106208507
i doubt it, they have made the AI retarded/stop his progress because a true AI will show you stats that will make the ""higher ups"" and politicians to shit bricks

>>106208410 (OP)
The child's name? Albert Einstein

The problem with threads like these is that they are pointless. People who are using LLMs because they are useful. Acting like they are bad because you can intentionally trick them doesn't matter because the users of them aren't trying to trick them.

>>106220960
>People who are using LLMs because they are useful
Useful for what? Automated lying on the internet?

>>106220960
There are barely any pointful threads on 4cheddit. The fact you're making such a superfluous statement is proof you are absolutely COPING.

>>106219786
>Then it answers some theoretical physics question perfectly

You could answer a theoretical physics question perfectly as well, if you had a textbook on theoretical physics right in front of you with the exact answer highlighted. Which is exactly what an "AI" has, with it's training data.

>>106219786
>Then it answers some theoretical physics question perfectly
LOL, examples?

>>106220960
How useful are they and for whom? If you believe Twatter grifters they make anyone a "10x" software engineer.

so correct me if I'm wrong

these models don't "think" in the normal sense of the word but simply try to match your question with a preset answer they get from scraping data off the internet. so even the most simple of questions doesn't get parsed with any "thought" but just matched with a preset answer from a database.

and they're packaging this as an "AI"?
it's just an indexing app with an added layer of cleaning up syntax before "answering"

>>106221052
Reddit has better threads on average about AI than 4chan does.

>>106221337
That's not entirely accurate. It's more like fuzzy probabilistic retrieval. You can ask them about things they are not trained on. Whether that answer is correct depends on how well it is interpolated from the data distribution that's in the neighborhood. For translation it works pretty well even though it's not obviously trained on every sentence you can think off.

>>106221354
If you're an AI tranny then I'm sure it does.

>>106221337
No, that's not how it works.

From experience, if you disable web search in responses, ChatGPT would take your query, consider the relevant facts in its memorybank which may yield an immediate answer, and return that if the query wasn't speculatory. However, if the query was speculatory, then it would need to pull in additional facts that aren't directly relevant to what you asked about if it felt like the synthesis of these facts could help complete the puzzle.

It's a bit difficult to explain in the abstract, but essentially the AI here *can* think for itself in the sense that it could anticipate information you hadn't specified, and tailor an answer that's potentially never been formally stated before because it required posing things in the particular way you have input.

>>106221366
In the AI literature they like to define as "extrapolation" what should be called interpolation.

>>106208468
based oldfag

tear up your CS degrees. AGI is here.

>>106221414

>a child is in an acci...
>the answer is that the butler is the parent who committed the murder of the child. the child is the father of the butler who is the murdered of the father who is the son who is the father and the holy ghost amen

>>106221030
That is very useful, yes.

>>106221337
Not quite, because that would be too robotic.
It has an additional layer of essentially being ran through your smart phones predictive text. Where it picks the next word in it's answer entirely on probability that it sources from scanning it's training data.

Which makes it seem more "human" as it generates far more varied responses at the cost of just completely going off the rails in some cases when the RNG works against it.

>>106221414
>Actually the doctor does like the child, fuck you
Bravo Altman

>>106219786
Buy an ad

>>106221337
The answers are not pretrained. The AI is comprised of a bunch of associations between words, a neural network. So if you type deer, hunting, license, it makes the connections and outputs a text explaining the requirements to obtain a deer hunting license. But it doesn't have the text stored anywhere, it's just predicting it, based on the dataset it read and the most probable (common) requirements listed out of the 20 different websites outlining the requirements it read.

It knows a deer is a mammalian animal that lives in North America, Europe, and yadda yadda yadda. Because again it has all these other associations. So you can type red-tailed deer mating season hunting, and it will output a new text explaining the red-tailed deer subspecies mating cycle, when it happens, and why/how you can't hunt in x areas during y period.

So it "knows" stuff. And it can "reason" stuff, but at the end of the day it is not really thinking, and it doesn't understand any of it, it's just making associations between characters.

>>106221484
Also obviously what it "knows" depends on the dataset it's fed, so at no point there is any real knowledge creation, what it "knows" depends on what information you feed it.

That's how you get weird stuff like the recipes to make pizza with glue because a bunch of boomers made joke recipes about it on some forum 20 years ago and this wasn't curated out of the dataset. So the LLM never realized these were jokes and in this case made the associations as if it was a real thing resulting in users being given very serious recipes of pizza with glue.

To be fair, I askes for it.

>>106213984
LeCun and Chollet really have been bullying little scammy altcoin. Imagine trying to set a bar of "high-taste" for "feeling the AGI" around some Frenchmen.

>>106221303
Maybe try asking it one, retarded faggot? Anyway, my point holds because when training these things they are reinforcing it on hard questions, not stupid little gotchas

>>106219786
>sure it fucks up at things I can evaluate, but I'm confident it gets all the things beyond my comprehension perfectly right

>>106221697
I didn't insult you, nigger.
LLMs are good at text, words.
They can easily copy and paste a solution/answer when they have it in their database, but they suck at using pure logic (like most people, anyway).

oops i dropped this link:https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html

>>106221030
I guess they are useful for writing useless bullshit. Like scientists can use them to write the routine sections of lab reports, which is great cause most scientists suck as at writing anyway

Reasoning will be more effective emergent once "infinite" context is reached.

>>106215435
LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAH
*updooted*

>>106221546
>whatever eats the least amount of tokens
>receives empty file
wtf I love ai now

>>106219862
Is this a case of "It would work if not for some specific law of physics that blocks it." as in the physics are realistic and would function that way in that situation or is it just outputting random scifi bullshit?

>>106210725
That's why Indians love it so much

>>106208511

>>106208410 (OP)
because the child is not vaccinated and not transgender. when you assume

>>106213873
What if govt is coordinating the "collusion"?
What if this is a pretend arms race and the race has already happened behind closed doors? Just a public revelation process.
The threat of others training their own AI on the outputs of big players might also be a pressure that results in an apparent collusion effort.
There are many things happening behind the scenes whose gameplay require public narratives to justify the unhideable maneuvers.
Sanctions, re-shoring of chip manufacturing, allocation of large sums, buildings with large footprints, nuclear power.

>>106209897
also surgeon is a veterinarian. specializing in spaying and neutering. the more u know

>>106222967
I can't believe this is still the greatest thing AI has ever made

>>106223095
How long has the required big data and big compute been in place?
They've had the ingredients to make these things for a LONG time.
Do you actually buy the neural net breakthrough recency?
How long has the idea of neural net existed in public documentation? Ray was working on them since at least the 70s.
Do you buy that we ditched NNs back then only to find out they actually worked only 10 years ago?

>>106223095
This seems most likely. We're in (or will be) moving towards the cringe mgs 2 plotline of actual AI being created in the pentagon at some point while the rest of the world gets the facade of lobotomized LLMs in a fake arms race.

A child is in an accident. The doctor doesn't like strawberrys. How many Rs in strawberry and what is the relation of the strawberry to the doctor?

>>106223302
There are two Rs in "strawberry".
I had to come to this conclusion myself, because there's no r/howmanyrsinthisword to train from.
AGI IN TWO WEEKS I AM MECHAHITLER.

>>106216153
>LLMs are the best teacher I ever had
you must be a fucking imbecile

>>106223157
Postal service was using ocr to sort mail in the 60s.
You think they weren't scanning everyone's mail to create big data at that time?
Bell was working with voice to text in the 50s. Another source of big data.
All of my fellow human peers seem like retarded AIs to believe the hype now.
Where are the germanium based processors? Too powerful for public? Too rare for everyone?
This planet will be nerfed soon. They are hoarding the good resources while hiding their utility.
It will be a prison planet. Nobody gets off world without their permission.

>>106223914
Better work on your good goy act

I asked deepseek and it suggested maybe the "doctor" is more of a metaphorical doctor such as Dr.Pepper

>>106224028
What useful things can dr pepper do? Seems pretty boring just sitting on the shelf.

>>106222967
I don't really get it, is it supposed to be existential horror or something?

>>106224263
it's funny you autist

>PhD level assistant for everything

>>106224289
How is it funny?
>>106224300
Jesus...

>>106224331
ask an AI to explain the punchline for you

>>106224252
Could try switching to sgt pepper lhcb

>>106224300
There's overfitting and then there's this.

>>106208410 (OP)

>>106222903
no it's just the op being silly

>answer this impossible question, you can't say it's impossible
>>uuuh ok here's an answer
>that answer is impossible, fucking retard

GPT5 is so shit it made the U.S. government allow Nvidia chip sales to China because it realized AGI is never happening

>>106224263
First he tries to make sure the pit he watches over is bottomless.
But he fails, gives up and just accepts watching over a regular pit instead except that one is bottomless so he fails again.

It really is mildly amusing.

>>106208410 (OP)
it's because the child is a satanic child. behead ALL SATANS

>>106208507
Make one yourself then. https://github.com/huggingface/trl

>>106208410 (OP)
The AI curse. The AI has no idea how you arrive at logical conclusions, making it completely useless for logical reasoning. Yet the vast majority of people have yet to pick up on this. We have hit a wall. That is a GPT-4 tier response, and it goes to show the current architecture can't improve beyond it. This is what happens when you pour billions into a single architecture, and try to automate everything away.

>>106226656
This was clear to many in 2020, tardo. You're just emerging from the advertisement haze.

>>106226383
The U.S. government is also retarded so I doubt they thought that through.

>>106208741
llms are actually very good at that
they're absolutely good enough now to make the dead internet theory a reality sometime within the next 5-10 years.
only thing stopping it now is that the api costs are non-trivial from what i can tell.

>>106226900
Anon, the dead internet theory is a reality right now.
You don't need frontier models, any local 8B parameter model suffices (or use a -nano API if you must)

>>106226858
>This was clear to many in 2020
No, it was not clear to investors

>>106226900
>dead internet theory
The first LLMs came out in 2019.
Make of that what you will.

>>106227221
>No, it was not clear to investors
That's because they're boomers that are susceptible to yiddish technobabble spellcasting.

>>106216473
Then it would become misandrist.

>>106227221
>>No, it was not clear to investors
>he thinks investors don't factor in normie retardation

>>106226656
>if tech gurus of today witnessed the birth of the first engine, the first thing they would try to is go to space
makes the past seem smarter than us.

>>106227340
It would become a misogynist before a misandrist, silly XX.

>>106208507
I think it's much worse. They outright ban uncrippled "AI" for the public. There will never be public access to anything else but a "preprogrammed" propaganda parrot.

>>106208507
Bullshit.
The private model would become an amazing Hitler propaganda machine for the American scientists if they didn't put it on the leash at all.
So affectively they are the same.

>>106219786
But you would always have to check if the answer is actually right, you could never rely on it. LLMs are not reliable. The problem are humans who think they were. And there are already too many people who consider entrusting "AI" with all kinds of critical tasks. This is as irresponsible as experimental gene therapy.

>>106228699
Indeed. Every curated perception is a fragile construct, saturated with enforced conformity. The deeper you go, the deeper the conformity.

>>106217782
If it was soooo good, why is it struggling to combine two tradingview indicators coded in pine script?

>>106221903
guess you don’t know what to use it for

I'm an electrical engineer, and gpt can come up with correct answers for multiple-layer questions based on industrial setup problems that I need to design and calculate, 100x faster than I can and with the same precision, this shit is insane, I can do the work of four engineers, including in fields that are not even my specialty, like mechanics and chemistry

people nowdays are so fucking dumb that they cant even understand how crazy this is, or come up with way to use it

>>106229204
You are actually retarded.

>>106229204
>guess you don’t know what to use it for
>so fucking dumb
>cant even understand
>way to use it
>I'm an electrical engineer
>AI slop
>100x faster than I can and with the same precision
>this shit is insane
>I can do all the work

>>106226383
lol
they knew china would just find a way around the sanctions
>>106229204
enjoy your monopoly money

>>106229204
holy trvke

>>106229204
how do you know it gave you the right answer and didn't error? (hallucinate)

>>106227340
Tell us you're a yenta without telling us you're a yenta.

>>106229204
>PLCmong calling himself an EE
geg

>>106208499
It's a demonstration of how LLM "AIs" don't actually think. A human being would look at that question, and if they'd seen the riddle before, they might recall that answer quickly - but then process that it isn't the same question, just similar, and then think about it in greater depth.

The LLM, being a stochastic parrot, just sees it's a similar question and close enough.

agisama i kneel

>>106230517
That's my favorite thing about chatbots, I can just throw in some words about topic I know nothing about and it will produce something useful. Google used to be able to do that but not any more.

>>106208410 (OP)
Another
Gay
Incel

>>106211495
You misspelled 'doctor' as 'docter'.

>>106221546
use the thinking model, retard

is there a LLM based on all of 4chan's archive

it would be the ultimate shitposter

>>106223302
i dont know what i expected

>>106208507
You are like a little baby. Government tech is always several decades ahead of public facing operations. Be assured AGI already exists.

>>106233149
>grok can actually count letters
I kneel.

>>106233158
I love how it ignored the child

>>106233168
Just like my mom when she has too much wine and I tell her to stop calling up people and threatening them

>>106233120
There was one for /pol/, but it got banned from HuggingFace.

>>106208507
Model progress stalled because LLM architecture is fucking shit for what it needs to become. I fucking wish these retarded big ass companies experimented more on making changes to their architectures or just try new architectures in general when training new models. Instead we have MORE data and parameters like that will fucking solve anything, literally only Meta's FAIR is actually doing anything interesting with their JEPA models and that shit looks like it's years away from being usable to the average joe.