Is this legal?

i mean the ban doesn't work since the sales to china get worked around by going through singapore or whatever, so might as well get some free money from them instead

>>106216600
And they still won't be getting any money as long as they route the sales to Chima

>>106216576 (OP)
15% is nothing.
nvidia doesn't make much money compared to it's stock.
a couple billion dollars might pay less than 1% of the US deficit.

>>106216576 (OP)
Remember when republicans at least pretended to be pro freedom? Now they're unashamed commies.

>>106216576 (OP)
thats literally what a tariff is

>>106216816
export tariff?

>>106216576 (OP)
>export tariff
WTF

>>106216816
Export tariff is much rarer

>>106217235
I sometimes do it in Victoria, to keep the price of natural resources (coal and iron) low.

>>106216576 (OP)
As long as you don't call it "tax". Only Congress can levy those.

>>106216576 (OP)
This is more proof that the profit margin on their chips are insane. They're okay with just giving away 15% of it because they still have a huge margin of pure profit on it.

>>106217577
Enterprise chip always has ridiculously huge profit margin.

>>106216576 (OP)
I assume they'll mostly circumvent it anyway and give some scraps to the government as a sign of good will.

>>106216576 (OP)
this their desperate gambit to try slowing down china's development. otherwise when china native stuff fills their market it's over. they want to try and keep chinese purchasing their trash instead of purchasing chinese native gpu/chips to slow down revenue to hamper development. the thing is it's too late and too obvious they think if they have some faggot western chinese guy go there they can get china to commit suicide, but it's not happening.

china doesn't do capitalism so they don't need to worship and revere the free market thus purchasing nvida shit being comsoomers

>>106216576 (OP)
Does it even matter if it's legal? The US is a failed, buck broken, state. More important question is when does it go mad max tier?

>>106219407
2 years is when shit is really gonna start hitting the fan. 4 years is kinetic war.

>>106216698
>noooo you have to help your enemy just give everything away to the chinks or you're you're a COMMIE YEAH THATS RIGHT
Retard

>>106219623
>help your enemy
>thinking this helps china
fucking retard. this is america's pathetic attempt to stall china's development. right now china can't even purchase stuff cause the laws from 2017+. they want china to purchase nvidia's 2nd tier stuff instead native chinese stuff. they completely failed at containing china and china is developing too quickly so they need to try insert themselves into china so they can steal chinese tech and stall chinese development.

>>106216576 (OP)
Can't Nvidia and AMD offset this just by raising prices all over the world? Particularly in the United States?

>>106216576 (OP)
>Is this legal?
The government makes the law.

>>106217577
15% on 100% vs 0% on 0%.

>>106219651
Nvidia and AMD got a far better deal. they got exempt from any (import) tariffs.
so it makes zero sense for Nvidia and AMD to move any manufacturing to the US. however it now makes sense for Nvidia and AMD to move out of the US.

Is this a good time to grab a 9070xt? Think it'll get pricier?

US can tax your income regardless of where you are. You are required to pay your taxes to the US even if you have already paid once to the country where you are working

>>106217645
there's no will be.
blackwell is backordered for two years. china already got its orders in.
that it's now legal to sell amputated hoppers again doesn't interest china much.

>>106219407
Why should it go mad max tier? The world is full of dysfunctional states that are relatively peaceful.

>>106216576 (OP)
Yes, but it just signals American weakness. Can you even imagine 80s or 90s America doing this type of communist economics, JFC

>>106221679
>Can you even imagine 80s or 90s America doing this type of communist economics, JFC
yes, that's like any arms deal. those kind of deals are normal when export licenses are involved.

80s had much worse stuff happening with restricted products:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
"""
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجرای ایران-کنترا; Spanish: Caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as the Iran–Contra scandal, the Iran Initiative, or simply Iran–Contra, was a political scandal in the United States that centered on arms trafficking to Iran between 1981 and 1986, facilitated by senior officials of the Ronald Reagan administration. As Iran was subject to an arms embargo at the time of the scandal, the sale of arms was deemed illegal.[1] The administration hoped to use the proceeds of the arms sale to fund the Contras, an anti-Sandinista rebel group in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, passed by Congress in a 411–0 vote and signed into law by Reagan, further funding of the Contras by legislative appropriations was prohibited by Congress, but the Reagan administration continued funding them secretively using non-appropriated funds.[2]
"""

>>106221679
I think it's the final nail in the AGI soon coffin. You wouldn't willingly share WMD technology with your adversaries just because you think they will eventually get there.

>>106221708
>You wouldn't willingly share WMD technology with your adversaries just because you think they will eventually get there.
lies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_North_Korea#Denuclearization_pledges
"""
In 1994, North Korea signed the U.S.-North Korea Agreed Framework with the United States. North Korea thereby agreed to end its graphite-moderated nuclear reactor program, including the construction of a 200 MWe power reactor at Taechon, in exchange for the construction of two 1000-MWe light-water reactors at Kumho, to be known as the Sinpo Nuclear Power Plant.
"""

>>106216576 (OP)
yes, paying taxes is legal

>>106216576 (OP)
despite what corporations would have you believe yes it is legal to pay your taxes it is not obligated to have jewish/capitalist schemes involving holland and ireland to avoid paying taxes

>>106221763
so how can i apply for this 15% tax rate? do i too need to try to smuggle things to china first?

>>106216576 (OP)
in italy there was a big scandal in the 90s called tangentopoli that basically ended all existing parties except for the communists where it came out that entrepreneurs had been paying ruling politicians since basically forever to either corrupt or while being extorted. Lobbying in the US was already similar to that now you also have the extortion part

>>106221792
how did this turn out? lega nord hardly seemed less corrupt and italian economy never reached the heights of the 80s again, or?

>>106221727
Which type has more proliferation risk you dum dum.

Based Trump. Trannies seething

Ok but pol told me that china maked waaay better ai chips than the US?

>>106221833
how about just arrest carter after he came back form north korea and make it clear to him that he's no longer the acting president?
clinton would have been able to enforce maximum pressure on north korea without carter. no nuclear reactors of any kind allowed.

>>106221790
you need to sell a controlled technology and apply for an exemption

>>106221827
I didn't live through that and my parents were poor so they don't have fond memories of that time. I don't think that ruling class was better. Berlusconi came right after that and I think he was a curse on this country. In the 80s we were at the peak of our industrial capacity that was made of a lot of government-controlled companies. Those companies were sold at discount prices by finance sharks and I think that was the big turning point

>>106221865
it's just a temporary problem we'll have this sorted shortly

>>106221827
The idea of a non-corrupt med country just seems silly to me honestly. Like picture the average hairy tanned mediterranean dude and tell me your first assumptions aren't tax evasion and organized crime.

Whatever happened to "CHINA CAN'T GET THESE AI CHIPS BECAUSE ITS A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY"

>>106222545
s'all good, coughed up the ransom - cant you read? No need to be getting all antsy about 'national security' and stuff now, is there

>>106216576 (OP)
legality is determined by the man with the gun
Do you mean to ask is this just?

>>106222748
how did those unjust taxes work out for the british king?

>>106219623
kek. read the constitution you commie FAGGOT

>Article I, Section 9, Clause 5:
>No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

>>106222880
Unironically thinking the U.S constitution applies to richfags

>>106222545
all concerns have been cleared after tel aviv gave trump a carte blanche to do all he can to give "it" more money so "it can defend itself", all with uniparty bi-factional approval as always.
thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>106222880
does that mean a blue state has standing and could sue the federal government for levying a tax?

>>106216658
That would be called customs fraud and is highly illegal. The US Government, and any other government involved could then sue both companies for likely even better payouts.

>>106223161
not unless they want to torpedo the precious carbon tax

>>106222880
>No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
irrelevant.
neither Nvidia nor AMD articles are exported from any US state.

>>106223194
how's the US government involved here? Nvidia GPUs are made in China. China isn't suing itself for customs fraud.

>>106216576 (OP)
There are no laws in china.

>>106223284
nvidia and amd and various aibs have repair centers in the US fool. so they're exporting and importing.

>>106223318
that's not how rules of origin work. country of origin will still say china.

chinas been fucking ip law in america for generations, i really dont care about legal ramifications of any of this shit anymore but it should be coming to me not israel

>>106216600
>i mean the ban doesn't work since the sales to china get worked around by going through singapore or whatever
that does work. that does slow things down/decrease volume. don't just declare things don't work because they don't 100% stop something.

>>106223194
But it's literally happening rn, and I don't think US has any jurisdiction over Sri Lanka or Singapore

>>106216576 (OP)
I will make it legal.

>>106217330
same. also with wheat to stop starvation.

>>106223511
thanks for your serial and check number anon