Thread 106218784

I genuinely find it amazing scientists solved erectile dysfunction

How long until they fix male pattern baldness?

>viagra
enjoy your priapism

>>106218784 (OP)
they already did, block DHT and you never get hair loss, any true reversal of dead follicles will come from hair cloning and stem cell research

>>106218784 (OP)
>How long until they fix male pattern baldness?
HRT exists.

>>106218912
>stem cell research
meme
>>106218784 (OP)
Stop watching porn, stop eating refined sugar, and go outside and do something you retarded fat faggot.

>>106218784 (OP)
Cialis is better
t. takes it daily
>>106218912
>block DHT
Look up "post finasteride syndrome". There are people claiming permanent damage to libido/erectile function, suicidal depression, and brain fog that PERSIST after you stop taking the medication. Some people have kysed themselves over it. Decide if your hair is worth that risk.

I took 20 mg of cialis and my back hurt so bad I couldn't sleep for a week

>>106219174
>t. takes it daily
Doesn't that fuck up your heart among other things?
Why would you even want to be horny all the time like that. That's just annoying.

>>106218784 (OP)
Temporarily changing blood flow is very different to altering your hormones. Viagra itself was also made to treat hypertension, not what it ultimately ended up being used for.

This shit should cost pennies

>>106219194
>heart
I already have high blood pressure so it actually helps
>horny all the time
It doesn't make me hornier, I need it in order to have normal erectile function. My dick just kinda stopped working properly around 18, not sure why but even TRT and blood pressure meds didn't fix it.

>>106219299
And no I'm not fat. My hormones have just been fucked since puberty for whatever reason.

>>106219278
Just don't live in the USA
Other countries have low prices and generics available

>>106219174
Post-finasteride syndrome is literally just nocebo effect retard, look at the RCTs and meta-analysis that are available.

https://gmr.scholasticahq.com/article/88531-finasteride-and-dutasteride-for-the-treatment-of-male-androgenetic-alopecia-a-review-of-efficacy-and-reproductive-adverse-effect

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17655657/

Stop reading so much leddit and actually research a topic for once in your life, just because some moron got one paper published based on literally nothing but some garbage observational data doesn't mean shit. The RCTs show it's basically fucking bullshit.

pp405 looking promising

>>106219174
>>106220353
Keep in mind there is a higher risk than placebo for sexual dysfunction, but the placebo still "caused" a 7% increase in one RCT. Notice though that discontinuation got rid of these side effects though, and it's still not that much considering that such a high number of people on the placebo got it.

Notice it didn't get worse with long term usage either. Then it goes on to explain even then the link is not clear for the short duration symptoms because of the whole BPH thing.

The second paper is about the nocebo effect for finasteride specifically.

From my own personal experience dutasteride made my sexual function better because it helped with my BPH and I can coom 2-3x a day sometimes without issue now. It also *increased* my libido because by blocking DHT your body oftentimes compensates by creating more testosterone, it just doesn't get converted into DHT which wrecks your fucking body.

>>106218784 (OP)
The hilarious thing is that you need a prescription for it.
What happened to my body my choice?

>>106218784 (OP)
between finasteride for prevention and better plug tech for it you're too far gone, it already is a solved issue

>>106219174
>claiming permanent damage to libido/erectile function
I use dutasteride, a drug supposedly with more potent effects compared to find and 4 week half life and I still don't get libido issues which is bad, I WANTED to have libido issues. I hoped I could get rid of my insatiable lust along MPB but oh well

>>106218996
I do all of those and I'm not bald.

>>106218983
then why are all trannies balding in their mid 20s?

>>106219174
I stopped taking finasteride for my hair. My man tits started hurting and my libido was still reduced for a good while after finasteride. Not sure about brain fog, as my libido was under control and I could focus better under finasteride.
>is worth that risk
anon I stopped because of my tits so I would say no to the others that are hard to discover. I just wish I can control my libido without taking this shit med. The feeling of being constantly stimulated even when flaccid has caused me great fatigue and I started hating the dopamine fog that comes with it.

>>106220353
>The blood donation deferral period for finasteride is 1 month after the last dose, while for dutasteride it is 6 months.
My doc didn't tell me this. Fortunately I haven't donated blood yet since I started taking finasteride recently.

>>10622046
try removing high calorie foods from your diet, do some exercises, take cold baths.

>>106218784 (OP)
It was a side effect of another drug, minoxidil and another anti-cancer drug can be called a "treatment" too.
Evidence-based medicine tries to look cool but in reality, it didn't go so far from snake oil times

>>106220353
Ok
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34247957/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30265917/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32676403/

>>106220468
>N=1
Uh ok

>>106220516
one of the strains of tranny is the one that wakes up one day and cant stand looking in the mirror due to becoming too old/bald/fat/ugly

>>106218784 (OP)
My most schizo theory is that they develop pharmaceuticals through some kind of satanic ritual. The lives that viagra brought and the rape it enabled caused some kind of imbalance which brought forth the apocalypse that we currently live in.

>>106218784 (OP)
Erectile dyfunction is a non issue if you eat a cardiovascular healthy diet. The main issue is clogging of arteries from a bad diet.

>>106220938
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34247957/
>case control study kek
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30265917/
>rat study..
Jesus christ you're fucking stupid...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32676403/
>another case control study

I linked fucking RCTs and a meta-analysis/systematic review of RCTs. Do you know the difference between a rat study and an RCT retard?

Of course you wouldn't even know the difference between a case control study, and a systematic review, and a lol case control study.

Rat studies aren't even on the fucking pyramid because no doctor would even bother reading one!

pircrel

>>106220938
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34247957/
>case control study kek
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30265917/
>rat study..
Jesus christ you're fucking stupid...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32676403/
>another case control study

I linked fucking RCTs and a meta-analysis/systematic review of RCTs. Do you know the difference between a rat study and an RCT retard?

Of course you wouldn't even know the difference between a case control study, and a systematic review, and a lol rat study.

Rat studies aren't even on the fucking pyramid because no doctor would even bother reading one!

pircrel

What's worse gyno or baldness?
I take Fin and my gyno got a bit worse. I hate it, but I'd hate it more if I went bald. No libido issue btw.

>>106221409
baldness imo, but i also started taking full on hrt so

>>106220938
Look, let me say this... Sorry for being so mean, It's just I really, really regret not taking finasteride or dutasteride 5 or even 10 years earlier. If I had I wouldn't have the weird pain issues I have now, and I would likely have a full head of hair!

But instead I listened to nonsense fear mongering about muh "permanent" sexual side effects and post finasteride syndrome.

Protip, just tell yourself you will get increased sex drive when you take it, and your boners will get extra fucking hard! And you know what will happen? You will get excellent placebo effect from it along with the other proven benefits! That's what I did!

Picrel

>>106221452
me in a month or 2

>>106219174
You are so gay and pathetic

>>106219191
Definitely. You're not alone here. Lower the dosage, naturally. Take it daily or EOD at very dosage

>>106220246
>Other countries have low prices and generics available
This is Uber case for most things, anon. Anything in the west is going to be ZOG'd.

>>106218784 (OP)
I used to talk now and then with a work mate in my prev job, he told me he started losing hair. he went to the "dermatologist", iirc he gave him some kind of hormone and that reverted it completely. the undesired side effects were less libido, or some shit like that. the dude didn't look like a fag or feminine at all, he showed me pics of when he started losing hair

>I have to take daily pills or my penis won't work
>I have to take daily pills so I don't lose all my hair
>I have to take daily pills for this, for that
The absolute state of modern "men".

>>106222912
Hey buddy, fuck you. I take pills because am bored.

>>106222935
I can get high with my brain alone, can you?

>>106221397
>>106221547
Ok thanks, I looked into it more and yeah looks like I'm retarded.
>>106222793
Why do you think that?

>>106218784 (OP)
Depends on the severity. Dick pills do nothing for me; I need injections into my dick but fuck that. I'll just get richer instead.

>>106218784 (OP)
>
You can't, its called getting old. Only vain fools give a flying crap about it.

>>106218784 (OP)
Soon tm.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT06393452
Just go apply for round 3 trials next year.

>TAKE HRT
No thanks trannies.

>>106218784 (OP)
How is erectile dysfunction a problem?
Just don't have sex if you don't actually want to.
Or does it work differently?
Like you're still really horny except your dick doesn't work?

>>106223702
>Like you're still really horny except your dick doesn't work?

Exactly, I think for most it's psychological, nerves basically, but some guys during prostate or bowel surgery, accidentally get vital boner nerves and blood vessels severed (they're congregated around the same area). Many manage to recover eventually, but some are less fortunate.

Before my op, my surgeon told me there was a 20% chance of dick death, but mine was a rather unusual case with atypical complications. They told me it's normally only 10%.

>>106223806
>Before my op, my surgeon told me there was a 20% chance of dick death, but mine was a rather unusual case with atypical complications. They told me it's normally only 10%.
My father is a retired GP and told me it is close to 100 percent. And during his entire career, only one single guy avoided urine leakage after prostrate operation.

>>106218784 (OP)
>How long until they fix male pattern baldness?
2030 tops. PP405 reactivates senescent and repeairs dead follicles. Just don't get it anywhere but your scalp or you'll look like a kurd.

>>106223702
>Or does it work differently?
One part of your brain wants to but the other part doesn't release the erection hormones. 95% of cases are psychosomatic. The other 5% are circulatory (from any kind of chronic liver, prostate, heart disease).

>>106218784 (OP)
>viagra
look up pt141
>male pattern baldness
Microneedling and preventing swelling is all that is needed, but you do have to learn how to relax the subocciptal muscles for proper bloodflow.

>>106224523
Mine was from bowel surgery, could be lower odds with that I guess, or they just say that to everyone to avoid panic. Wouldn't surprise me.

As well as my dick nerves, they also accidentally cut into one of my ureters and liver. The latter recovered quickly, but my kidney function is now in single digit % on that side. Definitely had some pissing issues early on from that.

>>106218784 (OP)
>I genuinely find it amazing scientists solved erectile dysfunction
You know it was serendipity, right? The entire story is hilarious and the patenting story departed the rails early.

>>106223702
It's an issue with blood flow. If you're diabetic, it can happen (like me) or it can happen if you're really fat (I am only moderately fat) or it can just happen if you are old.

>>106218996
>actual science that may actually do something: meme
>retard broscience that's demonstrably false: real shit
Retard.