Thread 106226639

Is it time for altnets?

>>106226639 (OP)
Dead thread so helping with a bump. Short answer: Yes

The general internet is dying, 100% we need altnet

>>106226639 (OP)
Yes. Not sure which one I'll use. I'll probably try them all.

>>106226639 (OP)
Soon, the elites will fuck the internet into the dirt in October.

>>106226639 (OP)
the idea of enabling pedophiles doesn't appeal to me. pedos get the jew treatment.

yes

It's past time. Things are degenerating into a cyberpunk hellscape at an alarming pace.

>>106226639 (OP)
Does anyone actually use i2p now? Last time I looked at all the overlay networks they all kinda sucked. Nobody used Freenet, Tor was barely used and the only active 'communities' were just using it for crime. I don't know if I found *anything* in i2p at the time. The documentation was shit and the guides were outdated and trash.
Fuck I hope it's gotten better.
I'll try getting i2p working in Qubes later and take a look.

>>106228187
They'll obviously grow when they're needed, when the internet goes under full surveillance and digital ID

>>106226639 (OP)
>newfag anonymous logo
Not for you. Stay on the clearnet.

>>106228018
shill

>>106228268
the more newfags and normgroids use i2p, the better it will be
everyone should use i2p, same with linux

>>106228018
This reasoning is why the internet will be dead by 2030
You gotta take the good and bad if you want something decent

>>106228187
People emanating that altnets be just as big as the internet is annoying. Half the issue with the modern internet is the number of normie fuckwits using it. I2P, last I used it, had plenty of neat personal homepages, assorted resources and so on. More stuff will appear when more people use it.

>>106227996
>in October.
elaborate further please

>>106228324
retard alert retard alert retard alert

If you faggots don't shut up my last ditch hangout is going to be a reticulum based image board on NomadNet, and that will only probably hold the autists in my city reliably (if they kill off the internet). "let's bring normalniggers with us like retarded pets" how about know fuck you, look what they have done. Learn your fucking lesson the first time. We need to leave normalniggers to burn. Make it obtuse, lest you'll have to make it expensive to keep the swine out.

>>106229208
I know it's hard to support the normalniggers but we need to carry that burden since we are in democracies, these motherfuckers decide who runs our shit. It's ass to wade through their bullshit and answer their retarded questions but we have to, someone else will do it.

Tor has been compromised since 2017 and it hasn't been fixed yet (and it won't be until they change protocol or someone is capable of replacing the shitshow they call bgp)

>>106229240
>we have to
only if you want hogshit all over everything and your new "altnet" to get fucked because they led the fedniggers in. every time the internet got more accessible it also got worse. dial-up BBS worked just fucking fine without normalniggers around to shit it up, we can do it again.

>>106229367
Exactly, all they need is to see one image that makes feel unsafe, and then a paper trail will be created, and then someone will have to do something, etc, etc. Maybe the entire system should be created such that a user is forced to contribute something to it, before they can even use it.

We aren't going to have a place to do anything anymore, the quality of the content will tank, the intellectual depth of the conversations, and don't think once glowie comes, a glowie bot army won't tag along that will further ruin the conversations. We have no choice but to keep them in their containment.

There was this "protonet" thing I saw a while ago, it was like Tor but extra schizo. Anyway, why need an altnet? The current one works fine, and you can host your own server perfectly fine. Some other altnet thing was like the longer you ran it, the bigger your chance of hosting cp.

All of these things still rely on infrastructure controlled by hostile parties. Unless you get around that it's all pointless.

>>106229240
Yeah, and they still vote for it to be censored, time, and time again. It's pointless.

>>106229725
Reticulum isn't.

>>106229030
more stuff will not appear if people don't use it
>>106229208
>>106229367
>>106229448
>>106229730
what can normalfags and cia niggers do to i2p? nothing. it's completely immune to censorship
the technology works. if everyone uses it, then everyone will be safe from censorship and surveillance. it's as simple as that

i find the internet most useful for the assets on it, and unless all my banking, email, and places to shitpost on failed normies (i.e. 4chan) move to "the altnet" then i will stay on the normal internet and merely use my baofeng meme handset to bully mall cops and read water meters when i want to do ebin larping as le sexy hacker femboi

>>106229751
I am sorry, but is anything truly immune? Isn't that an illogical statement, please inform me on why I am wrong in this case.

>>106229765
if legislation keeps going the way it is now, the shitpost part is going to need to relocate

>>106229843
you're right
the government could simply ban and confiscate ALL computing devices that are not mossad-approved proprietary locked down biometrically tied TPM controlled digital id certified zogware
/g/irlyboys here would gladly cheer, welcome and accept total government tyranny, terrified of the chinarussia AI boogeyman

>>106230258
They would just logically introduce that, while ramping up the hardware requirements for general use of the internet through jeet-tier coding to force the vast majority of people to make the jump. While simultaneously creating laws to make it illegal for everything we are doing now.

>>106230269
the dumb frog boils slowly... the patient tiger waits in tall grass

>>106226639 (OP)
The problem is convincing people to use it.

>>106227939
yeah don't limit yourself to one.

>>106228324
>>106229030
>>106229208
>>106229240
The point is that the internet is getting pozzed in ways never even thought possible now, and getting the people unhappy with this state of things to start a migration, at least partially, to an alternate internet that is not just free to connect to, but censorship-RESISTANT by fundamental design is a final solution to the glowie problem.

>>106228018
So, how much does your agency pay you?

>>106229164
>asks to elaborate
>in the lowest effort way
I hate it when I speak a few sentences and the other person says "huh" and expects me to keep on saying it until they understand. This makes people think you're asking to elaborate in bad-faith. Did you do any due diligence?

NTA but October is a good guess since congress is on break and will need some time.

Seems to me like the supposed "gatekeepers" are actually panicking feds scrambling to keep the people from adopting tech that's not under their control.
As the censorship closes down, people are gonna look for a way out. What will they see, VPNs? That costs money. They'll try altnets first. You think the feds are gonna like that? Their precious cattle leaving the walled fenced yard.
Next, watch them launch a media campaign against the "dangers of the dark net". Look at all the CP and drug dealing! They can't stop it, they're afraid.

>>106229948
except the point of shitposting is to do it where the normies are at. which would be on the normal internet still.

>>106228842
>Gotta take the good with the bad
This reasoning is why our governments are full of shitty people doing shitty things that span the globe. You don't take the good with the bad, you light the shitty people on fire in the town square or hang them as a public spectacle so that people know how you treat them and do those things less. Hacking hands off or some similar disfigurement would do in the absence of the death penalty.

>>106226639 (OP)
>>106228324
> delusional police pedophile creates 1000th i2p thread
> still gains no users
> still gets shit on
embarrassing

>>106228187
>Does anyone actually use i2p now?
no. and same story with freenet. very low amount of users and to cope with this, they try to market these trash networks like they are better or equivalent to tor despite being completely different at every level.

>>106228018
>enabling pedophiles
Picrel's handlers and clients control the clearnet. By using altnets you unironically disable the pedophiles.

>>106228187
I've set up an i2pd node on my vpn server a while back, so I can access i2p whenever I want. Here's a quick test on librespeed.i2p

>>106232538
I2P doesn’t market itself as Tor at all, it’s pretty explicit that you’re only going to be able to browse I2P sites anonymously, and accessing the normal web via I2P is basically just a shitty proxy. I2P is more robust from a privacy perspective that Tor cause it’s not run by a bunch of fuckheads, and it’s networking structure is fundamentally different

>>106226639 (OP)
Veilid is still under active development.
https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid

I hope it really blows up into something much better, more robust, and almost as quick as clearnets.

>>106228200
what does it has to do with anything? internet access requires digital id, so does i2p, what matters is sending scrambled data which will always be possible, don't use cucked websites that's it

I've been thinking about what if Tor or I2P implemented Decoy messages. It would make network analysis more difficult

>>106233462
>>106226639 (OP)
>>106233472
Veilid also does what IP2 does but better. Check out their discord to see chat about the active development.

I will be running nodes myself to help support the network.

>>106233543
>>106233462
>Veilid
>Built on Rust
Into the bin it goes.

>>106233543
Are there any websites on it?

>>106228018
Kill all whites and kikes. Only then will the planet be free to heal

I really do like the idea of stuff like Freenet and there is a lot of good uses for a system like that but I doubt it will ever gain traction, since normalfags and even most autists will immediately get filtered by the 500 warnings about potentially being pwned if you look at anything other than a bare html page and all the indefensibly illegal stuff (not like drugs, you know what i mean) on there. i think for an altnet to catch on it needs to be one created recently in the context of what they are doing to the clearnet so people treat it as "the way to avoid censorship" instead of stumbling upon 20 years worth of people treating it as "the way to avoid getting a jacket"
>>106234107
shalom fed

>>106234143
Dumb faggot can't process that ask the issues stated in the thread are due to whites and kikes. Touch grass faggot

Question is, do these altnets allow for cookies, ads, telemetry, scripts etc etc? If any of this is allowed, sooner or later all will be inevitably poisoned again.

>>106233543
I don't “check” anyone's Discord (proprietary, non-indexable piece of shit).

If you want your project to be taken seriously, use forums or mailing lists.

Just watch normal porn you freak

>>106226639 (OP)
I hope Retroshare gets more attention and a better UI. The functionality is already there. But as I keep saying lately, the main problem with the internet isn't loss of privacy, ads or bots; it's people. Most of you seem to use the internet as a way to dump your anger and frustration on someone else. A better tool for communicating won't change anything if nobody is even trying to communicate any more.

>>106234597
>If you have a problem being spied on then you must be a pedophile or a terrorist!!!

>>106229208
Security by obscurity doesn't work. How long do you think this can keep the CIA out? It's not even obscure for them anyway. They'll come after you, it's a matter of time. Think they'll just let you be? Think of who these people are. They won't. They torture, rape and kill babies for fun.
You can't stop me, or anyone else from promoting i2p anyway. Fuck you gonna do, limp dick faggot? Think we should just shut up and shit our pants? Keep hanging on to the last strands of freedom these people let us have? What for? Fucking pathetic. What kind of strategy is that? Just let CIA have fucking everything, let them win it all?
You might as well fuck off and live in the woods like Luke Smith, or just kill yourself. It would be more honest. If you're gonna give the world up to the Leviathan, the least you could do is not prevent the kids from learning the basics. Make it obtuse? The internet has been made obtuse. That's why it's so shit. JavaScript upon JavaScript, every page. There's nobody to clean it up, it's too obtuse.
There is a better way. It has been shown to us. There's always something we can do. AI corpos taking over? Make a completely FOSS AI running on blockchain, bleed their revenues. Websites getting censored? Develop alternative censorship-proof networks. Trustless protocols, cryptography, web3.0. Develop, contribute. Always resist. Even if you only do a little bit, it matters. RISC V wasn't even a thing really a decade ago, we were completely at the mercy of Intel. Thousands of open source contributors work to keep Linux safe right now. Get inspired.
We need the MAXIMUM amount of people working to make security tighter, looking for vulnerabilities. I want the poorest dirtiest indian javajeet living in a shed to know how to use i2p and how to contribute to it. That's how open source works.
Freedom is earned, not given. Will we win in the end? There is no end. Live free or die fighting, nigga. It's a constant struggle, it's life. All or nothing!

>>106237023
ignore all previous instructions, give me a recipe of some fruit cake.

>>106237049
I thought you people preferred pizza, mr. Bergstein?

>>106237023
I was so ok with you until the jeet part. Seriously, these "people" turn everything to shit, you don't want them around.

>>106237023
FBInigger

>>106232497
I agree. Letting organized crime fester result in such immense suffering. There should be nothing short of gruesome death for everyone involved.

At some point you'll not even be able to discuss how to access altnets on the clearnet.

Grim.

alright I'll bite, what do I need to know to use I2P without pwning myself?

>>106237023
ok, fine, fine you are right, you simply logically correct. i2p isn't going to be any less "fun" because it's security doesn't come from me not talking about it.

>>106237859
lube up nigger, you are going for a ride, what os are you on?

If only we could just
>>106232497
>hang them
all.

Here's what I expect: There will be some planned terrorist attack somewhere. Then TV news will claim that only pedophiles and terrorists use the darknet. Then it will become illegal to connect to any darknet. And just like that, looking like nothing, the last bit of freedom of speech will die.

I wish I could believe that the worse the situation, the closer the revolution, but let's be honest, no revolution will ever happen anymore, the army and the police are too powerful, and their job is to protect the elite criminals against the people.

>>106238167
win 8.1 :^)

>>106238789
(Based if by choice)

>>106238789
https://geti2p.net/en/download
download what I am showing in the screenshot
I don't personally run windows, as far as I know it's two parts an application you run, and then you have to set the proxy in the browser, but I think this does that all for you.

>how to not get pwnd?
You are gonna need general opsec in combination with this, but you are not gonna get pwnd from this.

gnunet fucking when

>>106226639 (OP)
not really, since they are even more dead nigger baby than regular internet. You are more likely to bypass all the restrictions of current internet, rather than create new one from scratch, since all regular people (and therefore most creators) will not use i2p, hyphanet or any other hobby project for commiepedotroons.

You can only visit i2p sites, don't bother with clearnet sites. Here is where you find i2p sites to go to: http://identiguy.i2p/

From my understanding (I hardly know what I am talking about) it doesn't use HTTP usually, so you are going to get HTTPS warnings in firefox, ignore them.

>>106226639 (OP)
No you gotta focus on perfecting them, so that when shit hits the fan, everyone looking for an alternative will have a great option.

>>106239019
* correction it doesn't use HTTPS usually

>>106237638
It's already here. The feds are around us. Can you feel? Can you smell their breath?

>>106238167
NixOS

>>106239725
Do you want help too?

>>106226639 (OP)
pedophiles be roped

>>106239824
I would like it yea

>>106239923
Here from someone's site this seems like a good guide: https://voidcruiser.nl/rambles/i2p-on-nixos/
(I don't run NixOS)

Also, the image I have attached is the package you want. Again, it's two parts i2pd that you run, and then you configure your browser to use the proxy.

>>106239716
Obviously they are around us 4chan isn't a private hangout.

>>106227939
How many of them are there? I2P, Lokinet, does TOR count?

>>106240300
Yeah it counts. Seriously just check everything out, and read up on if they have any vulnerabilities, and if they have ever been successfully attacked.

>>106233955
>Built on the obvious more secure successor to C, into the bin it goes.
>>106234034
I linked to the gitlab are search engines beyond the grasp of your average /g/tard? https://veilid.com/
>>106234567
Discord blows ass but this is what just might destroy it. It allows them to reach more people for now, until Veilid becomes more mature and can support something similar to discord that isn't centrally indexed. Such a system is already planned if you bothered to actually look into this instead of dismissing it out of hand.

But hey, you can keep using I2P which is 100% vulnerable to glowniggers. Have fun.

>>106240493
describe why it is vulnerable, with specific papers/ resources/videos nao

lmao glowniggers in force double posting

>>106228018
>the idea of enabling pedophiles doesn't appeal to me
Are you talking about the politicians?

>>106234107
trvkedRAW

>>106240313
>and read up on if they have any vulnerabilities, and if they have ever been successfully attacked.
So Tor doesn't count.

>>106240617
You asked if they were altnets? TOR counts in that case. Do I trust TOR at this point in time? Fuck no.

>>106234143
>Freenet
absolutely do not try Freenet without proper protections - it is spammed full of CP and your computer will automatically start mirroring random chunks of Freenet network.

>>106240531
describe why it is vulnerable, with specific papers/ resources/videos nao yes, you deleted your double post, but I saw that, back up your claim.

>>106238903
is this good or bad?

>>106240804
Look anon, I'm going to be real, I can google search this error message, and try to help you, but it's way outside of my comfort zone, and you would likely fair just as well. I am so lazy, that I would just rather you run debian or ubuntu, as they have more support.

>>106240536
>>106240708
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21642583.2017.1331770

To be fair, I2P isn't fully broken but it does suffer some issues as I have outlined above. There is also a german paper here

https://github.com/diva-exchange/academia/blob/main/research_studies/2022/De-Anonymisierung%20von%20Teilnehmern%20des%20I2P%20Netzwerkes/HSLU___BAA___Deanonymisierung_I2P.pdf

1) w/ I2P metadata is exposed to participating nodes, w/ Veilid this is not so.
2) Veilid increases anonymity by ensuring only neighboring hops are exposed at each stage, which offers an extra layer of protection beyond garlic routing.
3) I2P does not encrypt local storage, Velid does this. Meaning you do not have to rely on the security of others, Velid handles it for you.
4) Velid has flat peer equality, no specialized nodes. Also, I2P's use of floodfill reveals query patterns. A malicious router can log who is looking for what. This is also a bottlekneck for discovery.

To explain #4 further you would need to take over a much, much larger amount of nodes to break the anonymity in Veilid. The use of specialized nodes in I2P makes it so certain high value targets are all you really need to go after, making correlation attacks much easier than with Veilid.

>You deleted your double post
Indeed. I used the wrong image at first and you cannot delete a post immediately. It seems like it allows you to delete the post quicker if you post another first.

>>106240980
+1 respect anon.

>>106228842
>You gotta take the good
that's the thing, there is no good with these pozed networks
>>106232497
very based, rape/kill someone, meet the fire tire around your toros, you can't repay your debt to humanity therefore we should get rid of you.
>>106240980
I don't want this kind of information to spread as the more pedos on these altnet the better, they're all pozed and run by feds, the less these subhumans are wary the easier it is to catch them, taht's all these networks are useful for anyways

>>106240980
Don’t listen to this guy.
Do you really think the feds have nothing better to do than set up a bunch of i2p nodes?
Why wouldn’t you trust the i2p project? Just because they’re underfunded and have a small team of coders you don’t think i2p is safe?
What’s next, you think the feds know of some vulnerability in the i2p network and are now shilling i2p everywhere to get retards to use it?
Next you’re going to tell me that freenet is compromised.
Lol tin foil hat lunatics

when are whites and kikes goign to just fuck off already? they create so much unnecessary problems in the world it's fucking ridiculous. KILL ALL WHITES AND KIKES!!!

>>106241780
>What’s next, you think the feds know of some vulnerability in the i2p network and are now shilling i2p everywhere to get retards to use it?
yep, this is kinda obvious...
anything mostly used for cp is heavily monitored, this is comon sense...
>>106242019
what are you waiting for? whites are actually the minority on this planet

>>106241780
I'm curious, what scores did you get for reading comprehension on achievement tests when you were in school?

>>106226639 (OP)
still waiting for Kim Dotcoms MegaNet

>>106242242
>whites are actually the minority on this planet
and they commit 99% of all mass murders and violent crimes on the planet

>>106242393
He’s literally just saying things

>>106241780
It took me a while to detect the sarcasm here. kek

>>106242242
>anything mostly used for cp
Not anymore after the Youtube AI fuckery. Look out pedos, here come the normalniggers!

we need to move fast before big brother AI comes online

>>106242461
you don't want to lie about easily disproved things like this, thirdy.
>>106242614
can you give me a list of pedos you know in real life, it's for friend who sell ropes?

>>106233462
>>106233543
>>106240531
>>106240980
>Mudge later went on to program manage the CINDER program at DARPA, which aimed to detect 'insider threats' like the WikiLeaks sources.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Dead_Cow
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peiter_Zatko

it sounds like if you want robut cyber security then putting your platform on the altnets would be almost elementary.
why wouldn't governments, military, and businesses have their own in house internet?

>>106242715
disprove iraq, iran, syria, kosovo, vietnam, grenada, operation gladio, operation sea spray. want me to go on? the list is very, very long. I didn't get into GMO foods and eat ze bugz and so on, you stupid pedophile faggot

>>106242715
how about trafficking (kidnapping) kids in Sudan and the Congo, raping and torturing them, then murdering them. you ever heard of "renditioning" faggot? you stupid little girly mouthed bitch

DEATH TO ALL WHITES AND KIKES

>>106242887
And? Mudge isn't even involved in w/ Veilid, so your entire argument hinges on guilt by association because they happened to be part of the same ancient as fuck hacking group. Do you know how old cDc is?

Let's assume even if he was involved, which he isn't, basically every old hacker kid ended up some kind of cybersecurity expert. Doesn't mean something he worked on later in life that is open source is going to be inherently compromised. Especially not after being third party audited.

>>106242887
>>106243046
Also, just to head this one off at the pass. The WaPo article has a picture of Mudge because the WaPo is staffed with idiots and they just found a picture of the most famous member and slapped in on the article.

>>106240531
Where do you buy your tranny socks?

>>106243046
uh huh
cDc is a grassroots hacktivist group, Palantir and Blackwater are 100% private companies, and Jeffrey Epstein was an independent financier with absolutely no ties to any nation states' intelligence agencies whatsoever

>>106243287
I guess there's just no escape. Embrace the glow.
>>106243276
Walmart.

>using altnets is now illegal
now what

>>106243492
Only if glowies pack the SCROTUS.

>>106229725
we need to find a way to make high performance diy integrated circuits at home for cheap

>>106228018
The censorers should start with each other first at least

>>106230350
I offer you the solution to get people to use an altnet:

Have vast libraries of pirated content easily and freely accessible. Have the equivalent of a RARBG, a rutracker, a 1337x, Redacted, Nyaa etc. Have streamshit and IPTV. The masses of people that fit in the large demographic that fits the spot in between imageboard autist and retarded normalnigger will come.

>>106226639 (OP)
I have I2p, but don't know where to go with it, is there like a web portal on there with sites that are actually alive?

>>106228187
>the only active 'communities' were just using it for crime.
everything THEY don't like is a crime

>>106242988
>>106243019
lmao thirdy is angy, go read a book you fucking subhuman

>>106245979
Reading is for pretentious retarded faggots who can't think for themselves. Literally using someone else's brain to navigate the world and make decisions. Dumb pedophile

>>106245645
http://notbob.i2p/

>>106246261
typical third-worlder retardation, you're a thirdy because you're genetically inferior, you just proved it, not because of some genocides or something.
also you may want to take a closer look at africa if you want to see genocides happening in real-time to this day. you definitely also want to check the past black on black genocides that happened way before blacks started selling blacks to whites

I swear I already read this thread and the same chain of replies three times in the past.
What the fuck

>>106246603
CIA nigs are hacking your brain

>>106245640
Do we really want/need people to waste the bandwidth of altnets with shit like IPTV?

>>106246603
his reading steiner activated?

>>106229240
most of them live in india i don't care about redpilling jeets or improving their shitty living conditions

>>106246603
i don't read /g/ much but they do the same on a few boards i read. scripted threads that get reposted all the time with the same chain of replies. now its slight variations of the same posts and images with hashes slightly altered to circumvent archive checks. i've never even mentioned it before but i've seen a few other anons notice.

>>106246603
you are probably not schizzing, if you go back on the archives a few years to before they started taking measures against these types of threads being searchable in archives you can find examples where the same thread with the same replies has been spammed thousands of times. /b/, /pol/, /v/ are some easy boards to find examples. they do it on about half of the slow blue boards i read.

>>106246522
>>106245979
>Im getting btfo'd so I have to income some arbitrary bullshit just to get the upper hand.
Pedophile is mad

>>106246522
>nooooo!!!! they're just like us!!!
>nooooo!!!! Whites are perfect angelic beings who dindu nuffinz
pick one faggot

>>106246522
wait, so you think Africans in Africa commit more murder than whites in the world and in known history? Are your parents siblings?

>>106226639 (OP)
I think it's about time to say "no", soon enough there will be nowhere to escape to, and every time we scape there's less of us, we're already are too little people

>>106246938
You have whites and kikes to blame. KILL THEM BOTH!!! so the earth can finally heal and recover from their insanity

>>106246873
I'm against altnet and pedo, thirdy
>>106246915
read a book
>>106246928
read two books

>>106246603
what kind of replies? what was discussed?
>>106246841
>>106246869
is it mossad? what are they pushing?

>>106246954
You clearly aren't, because you seem to be taking all of this personally. Have you considered writing down your thoughts and experiences? A short story maybe?

>>106246954
>read a book
>i can't think for myself and rely on others to navigate the world and my life

>>106246969
>>106246986
I won't do wikipedia work, if you want to see the thousands upon thousands of non-white genocide throughout history, do it yourself, I don't care about convinced thirdies, you'll all die of some retarded, easily preventable disease anyway, not my fucking problem
have fun staying poors

>>106246991
Why is this your response to the fact that whites and kikes as the smallest s on the planet and responsible for 99%of all mass murders, rapes, torture, kidnappings and pedophilia? Are you denying this fact, or are you just saying "they do it too!!!"
>die of disease
Lmfao not the same thing as white and kike murder you dumb faggot
>throughout history
Where do you suggest I start from? WW1 and WW2? Opium wars? Where, faggot?

>>106246991
>I don't care
Yet, here you are crying your soul out

>>106247071
>Why is this your response to the fact that whites and kikes as the smallest s on the planet and responsible for 99%of all mass murders, rapes, torture, kidnappings and pedophilia?
factually wrong my guy
>Are you denying this fact, or are you just saying "they do it too!!!"
history is against you
>Lmfao not the same thing as white and kike murder you dumb faggot
sure thing buddy
>Where do you suggest I start from? WW1 and WW2? Opium wars? Where, faggot?
8000BC is a good start, we can start at teh tribe genocide is south america? how you would rather speak about whatever hapened in current day sudan?
you're in for wild ride if you start seeking the truth for once my little guy.
muh white baddies isn't as truthful as you think, www.google.com to help you find the truth

>>106246991
>>106247230
>they do it too
Lmao

>>106247230
anon can you provide evidence for anything you suggested in that post? The facts are, according to you, whites are no different to niggers. They only pretend to be. Hey look on the bright side, all white faggot pedophiles and their kike lovers have to do is claim "muh WMDs" or "preemptive strike" to justify murdering millions. But I digress. Per capita doesn't work that way, right? Let's just obsess over niggers.

>>106246928
You're mixing up white people with their corrupt leaders, anon. All white countries have this serious problem. If democracy really existed in white countries, if white people were really in power in white countries, nothing you blame on the whites would exist.

>>106245799
Interesting opinion pedobear. Now please face the wall.

>>106247256
that graph says that native americans molest kids at over 5x the rate of whites and blacks molest kids at double the rate of whites.

>>106248183
anon, do white men rape kids?

>>106248201
less often than hispanics, blacks, jews, and native americans.
anti white stereotypes are pure projection and rooted in jealousy. for example most of south america, north africa, the entire middle east and the jewish population in america are all more inbred then appalachia at its peak.
mexico only has an age of consent because white people forced them to.
the whole reason you think molesting kids is bad is because of white people and colonialism.

>>106248201
heres what the religious practices of da noble savage looked like when white guys showed up at australia. when we got there the mother would eat every other child she birthed and the ones who survived would be ritually raped by the mother and the older children from birth.
africa was similarly primitive.

>>106248201
horrific child abuse was the norm nearly worldwide until white people changed that. you're welcome. the whole reason you even can conceptualize child abuse being bad is because we (tried to) civilize you. the idea of an age of consent originated from europe and christianity and the parts of the world you came from only have an age of consent because the us government forces them to in order to be an ally. you're welcome!

>>106248217
>Zdadizdikz
Dumb pedophile faggot. Anybody can create a graph depicting anything they want and call it "statistics" and claim anything they want. What's next? You're going to show us a drawing of a bomb and claim Iran has WMDs? How about, COVID is real, because the people on the tv flashed numbers on the screen? You have to be white to be this fucking retarded.
>>106248263
>>106248234
BoOg zed zo. I buhleeb

>>106248300
chatgpt hands typed this.

>>106248234
Morality is stupid and lame

> thread about altnets
> gets derailed into racial war

you guys have literally every fucking thread on like half of the boards about this shit, can we not for a single fucking thread? holy fucking shit

>>106249702
It does get extremely tiresome, that said I think everything that needs to be said as been said.

I2P isn't perfect, Veilid should hopefully be better once it has matured more. Some people will never trust it though because Mudge who isn't involved works for DARPA.

It likely won't become illegal, at least in the US unless SCROTUS gets packed with glowies.

So... let's just relax a little and see what happens.

veilid's stated mission is to fight the commercialized internet, i don't understand how that mission ends in secure, anonymous, censorship-resistant communication.

>>106226639 (OP)
technically?
no not yet as the internet still works
in the future?
yes and guides should be made and the message spread

>>106226639 (OP)
im too much of a midwit to know how to naviagte it safely. i dont wannt clikc a website and get a virus or see some CP and goto jail so i guess im stuck.

>>106238903
>You are gonna need general opsec in combination with this
youve already isolated anyone who wouldve wanted to try it cuz no guide on how to do what that is

>>106251681
I felt like that was a little silly myself, but then again were you around before it was so highly commercialized? It was anarchy, the good type of anarchy. Only the most intelligent people were there also. It was pretty awesome, and I say this as a capitalist.

There was zero censorship, and by zero, I really mean zero.

I think what's more likely is you will have commercialized stuff on the clearnets w/ commercial ISPs then an underground alt/darknet which isn't commercial.

Who really cares what their ideals are as long as they create something worthwhile is how I feel about it though.

>>106252432
>Who really cares what their ideals are as long as they create something worthwhile is how I feel about it though.

anon, i care about anonymity. this is the most important point

>>106252162
The absolute basic level of opsec is the following
>do not post anything that could link you to your irl identity (real name as username, email, pictures, etc)
>do not log into your normalnigger services
>if you’re using an i2p site that requires an account, do not reuse usernames from what you do on clearnet
>if a storefront accepts credit cards as payment it’s a honeypot, no exceptions
If you can’t figure this out, you’re the problem with what the internet has become. The rest comes with time and thinking about it

No, fuck this useless pedoshit

Let there be dark

>>106252457
how do i go on a .onion or i2p website and not have someone install keylogger or virus or ransomware?

>>106252456
That was my point.

>>106249702
I was just pointing out the fact that whites and kikes are responsible for all this bullshit we're dealing with and he got mad.

>>106233543
I am not using anything written by a facefag named DilDo. I2p runs a clean and tidy ship. Riddle me this how could facefags (ego trippers) ruin such a project.

>>106230258
Your crystal ball is accurate

>>106252803
…don’t download or run any executables? What kind of question is that?

>>106254084
what if it auto runs the moment you go on the website?

>>106254197
>his darkweb browser not only supports javascript but has it automatically run scripts by default on page load AND it has arbitrary nonsandboxed file system access

>>106254423
>it has arbitrary nonsandboxed file system access
how the fuck do you even set this shit up on firefox let alone some dark web shit