Thread 106229046

Should I even bother learning to code?

lmao no
don't learn to draw either

AI = nvidia gpu
learn how to use nvidia gpu
just put nvidia gpu on your resume
the ai will whitelist you

>>106229046 (OP)
She looks pretty demoralised tbf.
How can we cheer Jamie up /g/ ?

>>106229046 (OP)
Why does she look 30

>>106229046 (OP)
She should try losing out a few pounds.

>>106229081
Gen Z is aging like milk

>>106229086
She obviously can't afford food, won't be an issue for long.

>>106229046 (OP)
I'd hazard a guess that hacking will be a more useful skill in the upcoming years.

>>106229046 (OP)
Who is that Qt?

>>106229046 (OP)
Sorry jamie we're all just femcel npcs now

>>106229046 (OP)
Learn to prompt

>>106229113
Jamie Spoeri, a computer science major who graduated this year from Georgetown University and has applied for more than 200 government, industry and nonprofit jobs.

>>106229046 (OP)
She can just open an OF and be a millionaire within a year. Dumb bitch.

>>106229046 (OP)
She is prime wife material.

>>106229046 (OP)
yeah it's a freat skill to learn and isn't too hard either (it's also fun imo)
most people should be familiar with scripting, networking and some other fields on atleast a basic level, just don't bother learning how to code industrial projects or how to write "clean code" and all that bs. and definitely don't waste years studying any of this shit in uni

>>106229121
200 is not that much.

>>106229128
>>106229131
>>106229100
>>106229086
>>106229063
>She

>>106229131
Don't want a demoralised wife bro
next, she'll start being tardy with the breakfast, before you know it, she'll be smoking dope on the couch all day and ordering pizza every night.

>>106229138
You're too far gone, man.

>Georgetown
More jesuit tricks

>roastie
>applying no "non-profit" jobs

NGMI

this may sound retarded, but if you're serious, my honest advice is to never look at tech news, youtubers, or anything else, at least when it comes to job prospects. these people love doomposting because they can turn your misery into money. pick something you like and grind it out, and everything will fall into place

>>106229046 (OP)
Don't worry Jamie, you can suck my cock 24/7 for 10k a month

>>106229046 (OP)
Why are hot women doing CS? Wtf?

>>106229046 (OP)

name amusing
how many men in spoer

>>106229046 (OP)
How many moar Jamies is then AI going to demoralised?
We need to kill it with an infinite Doctor-Patient-Son-Mother-Black-PhD loop

>>106229046 (OP)
She cute and she can have my job if she wants

>>106229046 (OP)
>Should I even bother learning to code?
yes you should always do the opposite of what the (((media))) tells you to
this 1 simple trick guarantees the path to an easy life

it was a mistake to learn to code when everyone was saying lrn2code, cause the job market crashed afterwards

now is the best time to lrn2code cause everyone says not to
in 5-10 years everything will be AI slop with nobody having a clue how to maintain it or fix the bugs and programmers who actually know their shit will be highly sought after

>>106229046 (OP)
Now is probably the worse time to graduate with a CS degree. But it will get better in a few years.

>>106229050
this
don't learn any useful or interesting skills because they might be automated at some point, just kill yourself desu

>>106229285
You don't think it will get good enough to handle it?

>>106229327
no

>>106229327
It will, but the horizon may be more like 20 years

>>106229340
Lol
>>106229380
I don't know anon the pace has been pretty good so far. 20 years in awfully long time.

>>106229195
>everything will fall into place
heckin' soulful perspective bro

>>106229396
I could see 10 if the pace keeps up, but the trend is that AI goes into winters for some time.
Problem is making them 100% agentic, navigating a massive code base, an OS, dealing with 500 different frameworks AND being cheaper than just hiring someone.
There needs to be a deeper level of understanding, beyond training data.
Even SOTA models still struggle with embedded programming, simply cause there isn't enough data.

>>106229420
>Problem is making them 100% agentic, navigating a massive code base, an OS, dealing with 500 different frameworks AND being cheaper than just hiring someone.
When I use the cli tools they seem to handle moving around codebases fine
>still struggle with embedded programming
After messing around with esp32 for a long while. The biggest thing is just pasting in the entire docs and the docs for whatever library you are using + some examples
Gemini is the best for this because of the fuck huge context.

>>106229443
And in all these examples, you're still there steering the ship aren't you not?

>>106229046 (OP)
She can get it, very cute

>>106229453
For now.
I can't really code, so not like I am doing much besides asking for something and collecting docs/examples. The cli tools can even autodebug

>>106229420
>Problem is making them 100% agentic, navigating a massive code base, an OS, dealing with 500 different frameworks
Not even humans do this, they try to ignore 480/500 of those frameworks

>>106229046 (OP)
are you smart enough to make the cut is the real question? AI will definitely knock out low performers and median programmers but will boost everyone else's output
definitely not the most fucked industry though, lmaoing at everyone who committed to PA/NP school rn

>>106229473
If you can't really code, how do you know that it's actually producing high quality shit?
Can you give a github link or something, im really just curious. Willing to admit if im wrong.

>>106229482
i'd still wager an experienced dev will outperform on that for a while longer. context rot is a real issue that hasn't really been solved.

>>106229473
>I can't really code
lol

>>106229509
Sure, the calculation is whether a while longer constitutes a career for them

>>106229297
To be honest OP making this thread don't have what it takes to concentrate on a single skill. He's literally useless waste of oxygen.

>>106229046 (OP)
I dropped out of college in 2012 and became a full time deadbeat and everyday there are more examples proving that I made the right choice. Feels good man.

>>106229138
Jamie has very perky breasts and wide hips for a man.

>>106229494
>how do you know that it's actually producing high quality shit
Because it runs and does what i want
>github
I should probably start using it again but its a pain in the ass if you just want to use it as storage.

I don't think my projects are insanely massive. But I have forked/cloned things locally to modify them and it went fine.

>>106229588
I tried working and it left me in a worse position, to gonfirm your suspicion

>>106229327
AI will always have weird and unpredictable problems/tendencies. If you think humans are irrational and dangerous just wait until you make an ultra powerful computer algorithm that is based of off human logic. Worse yet if its designed to emulate actual human thoughts and reasoning.

>AI is taking jobs
lol no

>>106229046 (OP)
unless you're working at a company with closed source specialised software, you ain't getting in anywhere

>>106229046 (OP)
pyw

the gen z stare is real,huh?
what a hollow generation

>>106229135
>200 is not that much.
nigger what the fuck i have applied for MAYBE 20 jobs TOTAL in my entire life and i have been employed in various forms for over 15 years. 200 is a fucking enormous number.

>>106229150
>>106229642
>women are named "jamie" now
if you cant see it youre a fucking jamal

just learn to use ai
adapt or die

>>106230172
dude she was like the original tranny, had dick as well as pussy or some weird shit

>>106230187
I need to quit this site desu

This kind the post makes me sad unironically.

>>106229046 (OP)
>For the first time a woman learns what competition is like

KEK, should have focused on your appearance and married a lonely asian incel who works at FAANG foid.

>>106229657
>Because it runs and does what i want
I hate non coders so much its unreal. But at least you are not trying to sell your steaming piece of crap code to anyone, so its ok.

>>106229046 (OP)
learn to math for a job, you may even land a good programming job in some kind of ML company. If you don't thi code for fun, corporate coding isn't programming, it's just bullshitting. You can learn to draw too if you're into it. Just learn whatever makes you happier, not just for the money, living a life where all your curiosity is tied to material possession seems like shit.

>>106229046 (OP)
If I’m going to school for computer science what would be a better alternative? I guess we’re all fucked by AI huh?

>>106229046 (OP)
No. Didn't do it because I hated it, and thankfully I now have far more background in sys-admin and networking stuff than most do.

NYT writes articles that benefit what its owners are currently invested in. 10 years ago, it was green technology. Now, it's AI. Maybe they'll bring Judith Miller back to write about it.

>>106229062
ty for the laff

>>106229138
I love watching normies have their brains broken by trannies and develop TDS.

>>106231761
the retardation of that AI is contagious

>>106229657
>Because it runs and does what i want

You're gonna leak a buncha roasties IDs in a public s3 bucket with this attitude, go ahead. Please charge lots to your clients. I can't wait to make $$$ cleaning up vibe coded shit for the next decade or two

>>106229135
Lmao I've applied for 1/10 that in my life. Even counting the stuff I did before I graduated anesthesiology.

she'd be prettier if she smiled.

>>106229046 (OP)
>Jamie, make a face like your mom just refused to buy you a new phone after the one you broke.

>>106229046 (OP)
>educated in IT
>woman
>applied for hundreds of jobs
>no success
This can't be real. Imagine how bad it is for most guys if this is true.

>>106229046 (OP)
If you aren't awesome already, no.

Why do people want to code so badly?

There are many ways to make a living which are extremely difficult to automate in a cost-effective manner and which reward experience. Computer knowledge is always nice to have, but it can be part of a career rather than all of it.

>>106229131
No, you're just pathetic and desperate.
This is 4chan after all.

>>106233817
I'm rich though. Stay mad, poor.

>>106230138
Same. I always assume the people that say this shit truthfully have basically zero self awareness or human interaction skills

>>106229046 (OP)
Why all of these CS shitskins can't start using AI to enhance their abilities?

>>106231821
You've got 3 years at best.

>>106233938
Because even if it was capable of doing that, it's not about being a 10x coder anymore. It's all about using AI to reduce the workforce. It doesn't work of course, but for the next couple of quarters the costs will be down and the shit won't have totally hit the fan yet so the stock price will go up.

>>106229396
>20 years in awfully long time.
2010s *average* consumer PC hardware absolutely eclipsed 1990s users' hardware.
2020s vs. 2000s hardware is less stellar.
And 2030s vs. 2010s is bound to be even less crass of a difference.

No idea, how this will pan out. DeepSeek upset the market, in that they kinda proved method can substitute large data sets.

>>106234092
>not about being a 10x coder anymore
And it's beautiful!
You don't need to spend the whole day in front of the pc to learn how to write new functions - you can already design your own stuff and sell it to the corps.
But sometimes I thinks it is an anti-AI propaganda to earn some political capital

>>106229046 (OP)
they pushed women into compsci and look what they wrought
women left to their own devices make better career choices, like flocking to nursing or teaching. the capitalists pressured them and look what the result is. no bargaining power whatsoever

>>106231997
Nah, she looks good without that fake smile, better be real, always.

>>106231521
Dogshit advice
Math is now an AI exclusive endeavour unless youre a PhD, which is only then when ML corps may give a shit about hiring you.
Learning to draw is SPECIALLY a dogshit worthless hobby and "skill" that is best delegated to the AIs now.

>>106234477
You say this in a time where the latest and greatest AI model to have been released in recent memory struggles to correctly calculate
> 5.9 - 5.11

>>106234477
Right brain sisters hiw di we recover from this

>>106229135
I used to apply to one job at a time and immediately get it after 1-2 interviews that were mostly just shooting the shit. Now you'll spend 10 hours doing tech, design and so on interviews and not get it because of bullshit reasons if you even managed to pass the AI/HR roastie gauntlet.

>>106229443
>>106229473
anon, like you say you are not a professional coder.

Things change when you get to codebases with 100s of thousands of lines and more. It's a completely different situation and needs a different approach.

>>106229046 (OP)
Which casting couch episode is this?

>>106229046 (OP)
Based, now she will have to marry a NEET like me.

>>106229046 (OP)
Lol no

>>106229046 (OP)
It's finally affecting white women? Maybe things will actually change now.

>>106229327
If it does, compute will cost way too much for it to be worth it. AI is impressive but there is a lot of hype. It is still a text generator, and maybe thats all a part of our minds are but we have a bit more going on than language.

>>106234930
some charts suggests it is already fixed for women

>>106229046 (OP)
Looks like she’s got a bit of nerd neck. Remember to keep a good posture while at your desk.

>>106229285
So should I do everything that 4channers tells me to?

>>106235127
Yes, kiss your sister now

>>106229285
I think what will actually happen will be much funnier. Everyone's so caught up in chasing AGI that they're forgetting that all this shit is severely computationally expensive, and the cost will be pushed onto the consumer like it is with cloud computing (itself a very expensive option compared to traditional web hosting). Once we finally get this hypothetical AI that can code and debug perfectly, the cost to run it will likely be as much as just having an H1B do the job. At that point I think SWE will make a comeback, but salaries will be half as much as they are now because you'll be competing with (an expensive) AI.

>>106230138
>>106233852
>self awareness
>human interaction
95% of the time what happens is that you send out an application and it doesn't even get viewed by a human, you senile retards. and a 5% view rate is after you've SEOmaxxed it to be at the top of the HR roastie's pile

and this is for people with some experience like me now. for my first post-uni job (2021) I had to send out ~600 applications in 2020 and 2021, and I only got it through dumb luck (a company was actually expanding due to a merger and hired basically everyone in their backlog, firing about half after probation)

>>106230182
Milfy goodness

>>106229210
she fell for the propaganda
not as many cases of this among women, mind you
they are smarter than 4chan would have you believe

>>106229046 (OP)
crazy how there are dozens of men in a 50 mile radius of her who would offer to buy her jobless ass dinner anyway
m*les really are dumb they deserve better than a csflop

Learn a physical trade that AI can't do.

Coding, music, books, drawing, art, etc are all going to be 100% AI in the next 10 years.

>>106235562
okay im gonna learn to knit and quilt like my granny. im sure i have enough grandchildren to keep up demand for artisanal quilts

>>106229046 (OP)
This is the same person that would happily automate truck driving and displace 3.5m truck drivers

But cries when AI starts to do her job for her.

Maybe... just maybe... if AI can successfully do your job then your job isn't all that special.

The only artists that whine about AI are the uncreative, untalented hacks. A true artist continues to enjoy their craft regardless.

>>106235761
it's very easy to see how replacing jobs that mexicans do is good for society, it removes profit motive for the capitalist immigrant importer/exploiter
it is hard for people to see that replacing the job their daughter wanted is good for society

>>106235818
It takes two seconds to figure out the vast majority of CDL drivers are white

>>106229046 (OP)
imagine being demoralised. lmao what a loser.
you should have your own ideas about what you want to code into reality instead of just wanting to be a cog for a corporation.

>>106235224
>Anesthesiology
>Give out 4 resume
>Get 3 job offers
Is tech that hard kek

>>106235562
>AI music
>ever
Kill yourself NPC

>>106229297
I know you're joking, but that's literally what the people up top expect you to do

>>106230138
>Works on my machine

>>106229121
I want to put babys inside her.

>>106229195
>pick something you like and grind it out, and everything will fall into place
Boomer Tier "advice"

>>106236050
>make something cool
>there's no way to monetize it or get it in front of people because everyone is a social media fent zombie now

>>106234976
women's jobs are all already completely worthless and exist only to inflate headcount so AI can never touch those

>>106229203
I'd like to apply for this position my kind sir.

>>106239736
do you have any references?

>>106229149
>Don't want a demoralised wife bro
>next, she'll start being tardy with the breakfast, before you know it, she'll be smoking dope on the couch all day and ordering pizza every night.
kek this happened to me after my ex lost her job. we are now separated

>>106234120
Wasn't DeepSeek just stolen chatGPT tech

>>106229062
>>106229063
>>106229081
>>106229086
it's all fun and laffs until you (or your daddy) also lose your job to AI, and you end up on the street. How you will shitpost and make fun of people then?

>>106239922
they use completely different model methods. deepseek is reward based, chatgpt is rule based. this is why deepseek is better at text generation/uncensored output while chatgpt is censored garbage.

>>106235224
>>106234506
>>106236071
is this what the linkedin labor market looks like now? mass apply to 10,000 corporations alongside every single person in india only to get overlooked because every tech company is run by indians?

>>106229121
I've always thought its odd when NY times and other MSM singles out some rando and thinks anyone cares about this person's story. Why does one individual's plight qualify as news. They might as well write a story all about me. I'm just as uninteresting

>>106229046 (OP)
>blames AI
companies are hiring, but only h1b.

>>106229046 (OP)
Does programming interest you on a personal level or are you looking to get into it for money.
If it's the latter, no. Stay away. You're not going to make it. The returns for the effort aren't going to make it pay off because your heart isn't in it and this shit can be hard.
If it's the former, go for it and fuck the people who tell you that you've got no future because of AI. Do it because you love it. Out of that love, maybe you'll do something that makes you money, more likely you won't. But you'll have an interesting and useful hobby that will keep you occupied for the rest of your life.

>>106241649
I believe they expect readers to put themselves in their shoes. It's a technique that doesn't work on some people.

>>106229046 (OP)
GO HOME AND BE A FAMILY WOMAN

>>106241703
I live paycheck to paycheck working a dead end job, I've always thought is funny how kids go to an expensive college straight from high school thinking a degree is a magic ticket to high income, and I've always held the belief that most laptop jobs at a megacorporation are entirely frivolous and should be replaced by AI. In fact I'm in college right now doing a CS degree but I don't expect to get a tech job, I only got into CS so I can use open source/customized systems because I don't like the direction the internet is going

>>106229327
never lol literally never ever.

>>106241819
and who knows you might end up working on software anyway if you apply in a few years or whenever you graduate. if might be cyclical, or maybe there is far more demand for software than expected and it really is increasing productivity. anyway, don't count it out before trying

>>106241819
double major. add something you can apply your cs degree to.

>>106229285
Still, there's lot of people with experience and out of a job. Kind of a tough market, right? May be in a few years?

>>106241589
AI to mass apply
AI to check applicants
shits fucked

>>106241589
https://www.thecollegefix.com/computer-engineering-grads-face-double-the-unemployment-rate-of-art-history-majors/

>>106242024
not double, but im gonna get a second degree because my employer does tuiton reimbursement. im thinking supply chain. i want to work in an essential industry

>>106230187
She's intersex with TIS. She has xy chromosomes but testosterone insensitivity so she developed fully as a woman. She could cycle more test than a bodybuilder and it wouldn't masculinize her.

>>106229046 (OP)
what's her codeforces rating? that's probably the answer.

>>106229195
based.

>>106229297
you sort of make a good point...

>>106229046 (OP)
i learned to code and got a bachelors then masters in computer science then forgot almost everything while looking for a job over 2 years, now i have to learn to code again

dont bother

>>106229588
I did the same thing, except I graduated. just never got a job and collected autism bux

>>106229086
She's probably not fat, beyond skinny fat.

It's just horrible posture. But maybe that was done on purpose given the tone.

Let it rot
Lie flat

>>106229135
200 is a bit ridiculous in my opinion, even if you want to account for industry competition

>>106229489
you're overestimating AI anon

>>106230206
have you even been on this website for 5 years much less over a decade? doubtful

>>106236022
not if you're in canada, which their trucking industry is being completely trashed by indians

>>106236081
that isn't specific to only music as the same could be said about the other disciplines that anon mentioned too

>>106229046 (OP)
She looks like 50 wtf

>>106241308
please do not bully
keep hateful comments... nvm you can say them i guess she isnt reading this shit

>>106229046 (OP)
Only learn what you're really into. You couldn't pay me to stop making my own Cnile projects.

That's the look of "all I've got now is renting out my vagene thank you feminism and AI"

>>106235668
Aw how nice of you! You're a sweet young man.