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>>106230331
i still need OPINIONS if possible

Any good headphones yet?

>>106232210
check back in 2 weeks

>>106232224
I can tell you right now that edition xv is bad.

>>106232210
what are you looking for? dd openbacks with bass? already on the market

>>106232277
Something comfortable.

>>106230824 (OP)
>Location
US
>Budget
anything up to around $350
>Intended use
use with my PC, which entails gaming, music, youtube, movies, typical audio shit
>Kind
over ear for certain. closed is preferred but not strictly necessary. wired is very very much preferred.
>Past headphones
been using picrel for the past 2 or so years. no complaints really, just looking for something new and preferably with little to no flashiness.
>Source
PC. preferably either USB A or C

>ksc-75
>eq
>parts express headband
>yaxi pads & normal pads
>mmcx mod
>cable
>iem wireless adapter thingy
is this the endgame if you have jaw problems and can't wear over-ears or iem's longer than an hour or two?
anyone ever custom design some sort of headband for over-ears that doesn't rely on lateral clamp force?

>>106232311
This is the endgame.

hello
bought a K702 and a fiio E10K literally 10 years ago on this general's advice and could not have been more pleased
my E10K died recently and wanted to know if anything similar and possibly had been released since then or if i should just get another one and call it a day
ty

>>106232734
obviously within the same cheap price range, didn't cope much at all at the time

>>106232158
I've never used these so I'm not authoritative here. After reading some reviews they seem okay - good materials and isolation with neutral-dark sound and damped treble. Has some design/qc issues (twisting plastic headband locks tend to break, kinda heavy, proprietary cable design).

Personally, I wouldn't buy them, but I have big ears and am sensitive to headphones' weight, so my assessment criteria might be different from yours.

>>106232734
iFi Uno is on sale on amazon where I live right now for <$60 USD. I haven't used it myself but it has stellar reviews and I can vouch for their other stuff (Zen stack).

>>106232294
I'm going to assume from your answer to >Source that you don't have an external DAC/amp so I'll factor that into the price. Since you seem pretty happy with your g-ayyy-mer headset I'll also assume that you're a bit of a basshead.
I'd say DT 770 (80 ohm) or an M50X + iFi Uno I rec'd earlier.

>>106233143
no idea what a DAC or amp is but you are absolutely correct that i like bass.
i like the look of the dt 770, but i see that there is a pro version as well as a dt 990. i dont mind paying more for better quality.
should i get a DAC or amp if i were to get one of those dt headphones? do you have any recommendations for one?

hows the Fidelio x3

Is the DT 770 PRO X worth the price increase over the DT 770 Pro 80 ohm?

>>106225502
I'll see if I wait for the sale then.
>>106225573
So you say I should keep my Nothing Ears and just buy the FT5 for home use?

How do I know whether I'll even be able to appreciate good headphones? I was gonna buy the Sony XM4, but realised I've got the Sony WH-CH520 and never had a problem before. I was considering picking up a DT 770 Pro or something, but that might be overkill for someone that'd only use it for music, youtube, asmr and gaming.

I can hear the difference between 320kbps and a FLAC file. I'm not sure if I could tell the difference between lossy & lossless (?) except file-size.

>>106236819
shit, wrong pic

>>106236829
why are you saving pictures of obese women onto your pc

>>106235409
i would also like to know this.

>>106237110
I like the idea of before & afters.

>>106233900
the D2000 is still the most balanced sounding biodynas I've tried. I've had the nighthawk, e-mu ebony, x00 mahogany, th610, th900 mk-i and they all are annoyingly low end forward (to some extent).
are the teaks as bass heavy as the ebony? is the rosewood worth hunting for?

>>106230824 (OP)
I recently picked up some Hifiman Sundaras with a Topping DX1 DAC, fucking loving them so far. Only complaint is they're a bit tight on the noggin and the earcups don't twist, otherwise, they're lovely. Very crisp, detailed, balanced sound, very sturdy construction.

>>106233237
You need both a DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) and an amp (amplifier) for headphones with sufficiently high power demand. Must "plug-and-play" headphones are designed with very low power requirements and usually use the (inherently not great due to electromagnetic interference) DAC inside your computer. Both of these things lead to worse sound.

In my suggestion, the iFi Uno is an external DAC + amp combo unit you connect with USB. The DT 770 Pro is just the newer model, while the 990 is a different open-back (leaks sound, does not isolate you from surroundings, but will sound better/more open) pair of headphones. There's also the newer Pro X (48ohm) which costs a bit more and has a newer driver with wider dynamic range. You should get a DAC + amp for these headphones either way, the difference is very noticeable.

>>106239195
thank you. i like the sound of the iFi uno and the 770 pro x.

>>106232158
I had these when they released, it was one of the shortest hype trains imo.
Good overall closed back headphones, neutral sound with a little bit of bass boost and reduced treble, small congested soundstage and ok imaging, not very comfortable for me due to the small earpads, and the cooling gel is a gimmick.
Sadly it was forgotten due to the early headband mechanism problems, and release of the fiio ft1 after that, which killed the small hype that these had.
If you want it be sure to get one of the newer batches with improved locking mechanism (see picrel)

>>106230824 (OP)
Pastebin is expired

I'm looking for something cheap and light but not complete shit, are the koss porta pros still the go to for that sorta thing?

>>106232861
>>106239289
Thanks for the replies, I'm really torn now. They sell for about $130 USD here while alternatives like the Fiio FT1 sell for about $177 USD but I really don't like sending money to the chinese (our government does that enough.) The proprietary cables and small earcups + all the little nitpicks are really a bummer and it seems like i'd just be wasting money not buying something else

HD 490 PRO or MM-100?

Have good headphones been invented yet

>>106238251
Xir, that is a kitten. I don't think they can respond

>>106239904
MM-100 distort less in the bass but their FR is worse and QC is no doubt worse since entry level Audeze is still chinkshit.
With EQ I'd still probably take the Audeze though, since I love some subbass.
>>106239943
Yes, DCA/Mrspeakers has been a thing for a while now.
>>106236819
Go to an audio store and audition some things. If you can't hear a difference between hifi headphones and your wireless Snoys you're ngmi and shouldn't bother.

What is the most based producer of headphones?

>>106240576
Probably Verum since he called the people who complained about his headphones niggers and normalfags still boycott his company because of it. Audeze and DCA don't bother with any politics as far as I'm aware. Not for long for Audeze though since Snoy owns them now. Sennheiser has a fagshit colored pair of cans and Beyer is chinese now.

T50RP mk4 impressions?

>>106230824 (OP)
>>106240856

>>106240576
>>106240615
Wow, it sure is a good thing I can continue using my HD280 Pros without giving a flying fuck about some random PR statement.

I've been using picrel for like half a year now and so far all is good. Highly recommended.

>listening to music on my phone with my bluetooth headphones
>another app I'm using suddenly bumps the volume to 100% and starts beeping
>throw headphones off my head and lower the volume after a couple seconds
>sound now sounds muffled and weird
Are they blown or am I imagining things? Can Bluetooth headphone even have blown drivers? These shitters were expensive.

>>106242059
>listening to music on my phone
>bluetooth headphones
So you're double gay?

>>106242071
Fuck off. Bluetooth headphones are comfy and convenient and I have no reason to keep my personal laptop on just for playing music during work.

>>106242086
Ok go dilate then.

>>106232210
Dunno but Sony headphones keep getting worse. Terrible mechanical engineering and product design. Joints are overleveraged and will break in months or less. Terrible software. Stupid features that nobody wants (touch panel on side of earphone that breaks in 6 months). Earpads are synthetic shit that wears out quickly even though real lamb leather is pretty cheap and much more comfortable and durable.

>>106242059
>>with my bluetooth headphones
>>throw headphones off my head and lower the volume after a couple seconds

What do we think of the wired Kaira X? It has triforce (non titanium) 50m drivers.

>>106242059
>bluetooth headphones

>>106242059
>bluetooth
>>106242174
>razer

>>106240752
I wanna hear what those new drivers sound like in Alpha cups.

>>106240576
In the west? Unironically Grado. They’re all made by one old man in his basement. He might have hearing loss but he’ll never change his ways, for better or for worse. Otherwise, most Chinese people hate fags. Shitheiser has been a shit company for a long time for a variety of reasons.

>>106242159
m1 and mv1 are decent but overpriced with the sony tax

>>106242059
only viable option for listening 'on the go' or 'off my desk' are bone conduction or open ear tws.
>but muh sound quality
you're already sacrificing sound quality by using bluetooth, might as well go all out

What are some alternatives to the HD490 Pro?
I want something with a wide soundstage with a similar pricetag.

>>106242665
fiio ft3, sony mv1, meze 105

>>106242722
>sony mv1
Tempting since I have the Sony MDR M1ST.

>>106240576
Don't listen to these niggers, Sennheiser is the headphone of choice for the 4th Reich.

>>106232210
>>106239700
Hifiman HE-R9
https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/he-r9-refurbished.html
or Fostex T50RP
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=fostex+t50rp&_sop=15

>>106243510
serious question, why bother with the HD700?
i feel that it's just what someone who's too poor to get an HD800 and too try-hard to get an HD6__ would go for. it's like "HD800 at home" tier.

my hyperx cloud 2 are finally dying

what would be a good upgrade?
budget: idc
use: constant use, i wear them 14h a day walking around the house, gaming, drumming, washing the dishes, etc

Slightly modified oratory 660S2 EQ - his 180hz cut didn't sound right to me, moved to 135/300 for mud reduction, didn't care for his 6.5khz boost, cut 2khz because my ears are overly sensitive to icepicks in a lot of songs I listen to there. Little more, little less here and there.

Preamp: -10.5 dB
Filter 1: ON LSC Fc 28.0 Hz Gain 4.4 dB Q 0.80
Filter 2: ON LSC Fc 100.0 Hz Gain 6.0 dB Q 0.71
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 135.0 Hz Gain -2.1 dB Q 0.80
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 300.0 Hz Gain -1.5 dB Q 0.70
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 1250.0 Hz Gain -3.2 dB Q 1.40
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 2000.0 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 4.00
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 3150.0 Hz Gain -3.3 dB Q 3.00
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 5600 Hz Gain -6 dB Q 3.5
Filter 9: ON HSC Fc 3000 Hz Gain 6 dB Q 0.31
Filter 10: ON HSC Fc 10000 Hz Gain -1 dB Q 0.63

Share your 660S2 EQ settings with me so I can compare.

>>106243863
>budget: idc
DCA Stealth

>>106239904
I own the HD 490s and it's got it's ups and downs
>Pros
1.) Comfy velour pads, which is usual for Sennheiser
2.) Genuinely great tuning from 20hz - 3000hz; Lower mids are present but not laying it on thick, I only felt the bass could use a tad lift (LSQ 100hz, 3db works fine). Timbre here is really on point.
>Cons
1.) Trying to switch between ear pads is difficult and honestly anxiety inducing. The thing that holds the pads are plastic hooks and it is definitely possible you could be too rough and break them.
2.) This headphone is a treble cannon, I had to lower at least 5 different peaks. With that being said, I am treble sensitive and have never registered any of Sennheiser's products as 'veiled.'

>>106240576
>Most based?
You just posted them
It's great seeing Senny embracing progressive cultural shifts with open arms in a time when it seems conservatives, reactionaries, and the current Pedo Administration are foaming at the mouth trying to get everyone to hate each other.

is the fiio k11 actually good?
is the r2r worth the extra 30aud (two foot long subway sandwiches)?

>>106244716
Yeah, it's decent.
No, the R2R version is worse if anything.

Anyone got any experience with AIAIAI headphones?

>>106232734
o2 amps sell on gaybay for like $20-35, can't really go wrong with that considering the rest of the market is a lot more or chinese still. Schiit might as well be chinese with how dog shit they are at everything.
>>106235409
The second you break a cable on the dt 770 and realize you have to deal with soldering a new wire it will be, but it depends where you live how much the difference is
>>106240576
mrspeakers/dan clark because everyone else isn't even trying anymore. These are companies not people, if they are pandering it's for blackrock investment not because they care about faggots. I don't care how 'based and redpilled' someone is if they are lying fucking niggers who make trash like 90% of companies in audio

>>106245150
I have the capital. it has normiecore soundstage and made of shitty plastic that's starting to literally crumble.
I've heard the higher end modular ones are kinda mid, but it's from uppity le audiophile shitheads, so eh.

I love my open back aeons, strangely enough I can't stand the closed backs. I thought at first maybe it was because the pads were quite worn but the sound is just terrible to me. Oh well, they can't all hit I guess, I'm done trying to find closed backs that don't sound like trash, it's too much of a task

I may be a pleb, but why are bt+jack or usb headphones uncommon?

That'd be very convenient for people who work and want to use bt only for work calls.

>>106245715
The closed back aeons are deficient in the treble between 2-4 khz. That's probably why. Fixable with 2-3 peak filters.
>>106245800
A lot of bt headphones have an option to connect them via jack as well. The reason you can't use them without the battery even when connected via jack is because without the built in dsp they'd sound even shittier than they already do, if you can believe it.

>The very first flat plate/black paper edition HD580 which is still copied over and over 32 years later
>One of the cleanest DACs and class A amps, insane EQ headroom if needed (but it sounds amazing as it is)
>Total setup cost 500 EUR including new cable and earpads
It does not get better than that.

>focal replacement pads are $119 USD on sale instead of $159
I thought aeon pads being $70 usd+ shipping was rough. Focal really are total niggers aren't they? Never warrantied a pair of clears or any snapping headband models and they can't even give you a reach around of somewhat reasonable pad replacement costs

>>106246007
>portable music player
>topping
>hd 580
I would rather kill myself than spend $500 euros on this, 600 line already sounds bad enough when the drop models is below $200 usd I can't even imagine all this for $500 euros

>>106246027
why would you pay 120 dollar for pads that cost less than 10 dollars to make

>>106246122
I wouldn't, but retards do. I seen some stereo reviewer with abyss diana's and focal clears, and knew immediately he was a glue huffing nigger. I wanted to see how much those fags charge for pads if they are that jewish with warrantying their horribly made,designed flawed e waste

>>106246007
These 30 years old drivers most definitely don't have any EQ headroom.

>>106230824 (OP)
I need headphones something like Koss porta pro
Minimum weight.

Tinnitus HD9000RPE are the best headphones.

>>106245476
Thanks for the reply mate.

>>106246181
>something like Koss porta pro
Why not just get those?

>>106246181
R70x weigh 210g for the og model

>buy hd560s
>the bare minimum entry to have a taste
>use it for a year
>recognize all sound media is recorded in shit quality and it doesnt matter

>>106246228
elaborate

>>106246181
ksc75/35 with parts express headband is under half the weight and doesn't pull your hairs out like the portapro headband.

>>106246242
elaborate on what? other than few rare instances of good quality shit or something that actually utilizes the soundstage, i barely ever notice i'm using an "audiophile tier" headphone.
the quality increase over simple stuff only lasts a few weeks and you quickly start not noticing any difference. i wouldn't call it a snake oil but they sure do have a point.

though i still use spotify, and other normie stuff for daily things so that might be the reason.

>>106246228
yeah i mean kinda but it helps a lot to actually source good audio. if you're a braindead zoomer using youtube/spotify/tidal (hint: even if they claim not to be lossless quality you are getting a shitty reissue/remaster) or a braindead millenial listening to random .mp3's and .flacs without knowing what reissue you even have a copy of: what do you expect??
sure a lot of it is still recorded/mastered like shit anyways but less of it is if you actually go to the lengths to not listen to the worst version of a song.

>>106246336
There are loads of horribly recorded music tracks out there, especially new age trash which is just autotuned slop or jungle beats anyways. It sucks ass but there is still incredibly well recorded music out there, especially music scores or video game scores. I really wouldn't call any of sennheisers sub 800 tier anything audiophile, but relative to other stuff I get your point. Whenever I pull out my 6xx's i'm always surprised how much music sounds absurdly awful on them, especially rock music or anything that has any meaningful amount of bass. Poster above me also has a point, just rip your music from autists on soulseek who check all their files, I can't count the amount of times i've listened to some shit file by accident when i've downloaded in bulk and it sounds off before i even check it

Reminder: All good DACs sound the same (transparent) and the only difference is the features. Any decent DAC should be transparent. If your DAC can be A/B'd against any decent transparent DAC then you bought snake oil sloppa. All good DACs sound the same the only difference are non-sound quality related things like I/O, output voltage, the power supply and how fancy the box it comes in is.
There is an entire industry centered around selling purposely bad DACs that have "character" and you have to fundamentally misunderstand audio to ever buy one.
A good DAC should never cost more than a couple hundred bucks and you can usually get them for half price second hand.

>>106246452
Music recorded before Bandcamp came out and not in the 1970's tends to be a decent ratio of recorded well.

>>106246457
Looking into dac's gave me a migraine. Even before you get to snake oil the amount of trash products is absolutely insane. Doesn't help that the most selling dac (probably) is schiit's modi that just dies or stops working properly for no reason, let alone the retardation of the bifrost 1 with it's $20 chip with all the other problems with it. I actually had no idea where to even look past that, even teac's $400-600(used) dacs were made in china, i guess all roads lead to chinks in audio(amps)
>>106246478
that's true, I don't listen to a lot of tracks from the 80-90s but when I do it doesn't seem to have the problems a lot of newer badly done music has. Even now there is some really well recorded stuff out there I fall into by accident

>>106246228
Definitely not a headphone problem ;^)

Are you listening to music that hides your headphone's problems? Find out today.

>>106245978
>The closed back aeons are deficient in the treble between 2-4 khz. That's probably why. Fixable with 2-3 peak filters.
eqing seems to have helped a lot, thanks pimp

>>106246158
That's called euphonic distortion

>>106230824 (OP)
Do you guys use Hesuvi for movies or no?

>>106247738
Windows Sonic

QC > Comfort > Sound

Prove me wrong

>>106248026
so... the aeon?

>>106246007
based

>>106248072
maybe hes so angry because hes getting ear raped by the 580 and just can't take it anymore

>>106248082
Sorry chuddy, senny won

i have the 800's and 6xx's, i don't particularly care for the 600's at all. If they weren't a gift i would of sold them already

Fucking 660s2 out of stock almost everywhere REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>106248125
shame theres such a limited number of potential headphones to buy

best noise cancelling

>>106248114
>would of

>>106248133
I like how they look >_<
I don't mind waiting all that much

>>106248148
>hd 580
>hd 600

>>106230824 (OP)
>garbage headphones that need a million mods to sound passable
guud lawd, lad

>>106242401
facial expression doesn't even begin to match the text, anyone looking at "walking garbage" would make a "wtf?" face of sorts, not some pity face

>>106248133
no one but the chinks cares to make anything below $500, and the rest is just dog shit thats been out for 20-30 years without any meaningful improvements. Sucks but up until the aeon it's just dealing with garbage or gambling on chinese trash. Still a lot better than it was. Mass drop shit also did a lot to help the issue

>>106248168
all headphones are equal with enough power and EQ

>Casually solve audio 30 years ago
Nothing personal kid

>>106248293
>distorted mud cannons that weren't even the best headphone 30 years ago
it must be tiresome to have to cope like this

>>106248398
>mud
lol, a meme passed down by deaf trebledynamics boomers.

>>106244490
>It's great seeing Senny embracing progressive cultural shifts
All the companies are still operating under WEF terms for investor money. DEI is still active regardless of what they're currently saying. Remember goyim, you can be anti-White all you want but the moment you're a countersemite is the moment you lose momentum.

>>106248448
beyers can also be trash retard, plus who gives a shit about either company anymore. Sennheiser reissues the hd 800, charges $400 more dollars, still sells the 600 line 20 years later at retarded pricing unless you get the 6xx. Now they are making their shit to romania. Beyers are just around because low end closed backs are all horrible and they have one of the only comfortable pairs

Picked up my Verum 2 headphones today.
First impressions are great. The highs are a bit too sharp (I don't mind the Gradio 125x's highs, so I think it's notable), forcing me to lower the volume in some songs, but other than that they're perfect. Great, roomy bass right out of the box compared to my HD660S which have pretty nonexistent subbass, and great separation of instruments.
Very comfortable to wear, too. Only negative build-wise is that the cable stinks and is a bit greasy.
I think it's the best pair of cans I've used, gonna eq the highs a bit and then I think I've got my perfect daily drivers.

>>106248622
>go on their website
>see this
why can't these sub human retards just make a product instead of this gay shit? Surely even redditors don't buy this

>>106248622
>The highs are a bit too sharp
I've seen some people complain about that, yeah. Good to have an actual review for once. How are they build quality wise? The first Verum felt kind of flimsy, this one is not handmade anymore so apparently it's better built. Is that true?
>>106248650
The guy's just a schizo. His headphones are good, though. Funny thing is those types of stands are actually harmful to headphones so that's kind of a retarded thing to sell.

>>106248735
>Funny thing is those types of stands are actually harmful to headphones so that's kind of a retarded thing to sell.
this shit is on the level of that subreddit that takes right wing memes and crosses them out with red lines. We are destroying out headphones and putting putin on our desk too... own the russians?

>>106248754
Dude is in Kharkiv which is a PvP contested zone, so get them while you can because later on crypto rouble payments are kinda ass

>>106248556
must be truely mentally challenged to pay 5x time the price for objectively worse headphones

>>106248949
You have to cope like this in every single thread to justify your e waste. I have a pair of 6xx's next to my 800's, and i never said the 800's were a good cost effective headphone. Nothing does what they do anyways, so graph niggering is fucking retarded and means you've clearly never touched them before. If I cared about nothing but cost/performance i wouldnt buy any of those 3, but again keep coping with your 30 year old garbage, that was garbage in audio 30 years ago

>>106248735
No idea about the Verum 1, but these feel good. I feel safe holding them and moving them around while holding just one earcup. They're a little bit janky, like plugging in the L/R cables took a bit more force than it should've, same for adjusting the headband. Thankfully they feel solid, so applying the extra force isn't worrying. No rattling when shaking them around a bit, and as said they fit my head super well. Big soft earpads with plenty of cushing and no problems fitting my ears.
The earpads are attached magnetically and are easy to remove and replace, again a bit janky getting them into place, but man is it better than non-magnetic solutions. We'll see how they hold up the coming weeks.
An interesting sidenote, there's a slight slight pressure on my eardrums when wearing them (not enough to bother me). Like a less intense version of putting my ear inside a glass.
I haven't noticed that in my other open ears, might be that planars just behave like that.

>>106248650
Fuck off, Ukranians are having their country destroyed by ruskis, they're not virtue signaling leftoids like you're used to.
The statue does looks really bad though, no idea who'd actually buy it. I don't want Putin wearing my headphones.

>>106248991
>Fuck off, Ukranians are having their country destroyed by ruskis, they're not virtue signaling leftoids like you're used to
I can make fun of what ever I want, have some self awareness as to where you are. Giving the retarded ua army even 1m, which is literally impossible for this piece of shit to do wouldn't even buy 5 mins of rockets. It's gay and retarded

>>106249020
And I can tell you to fuck off, but let's not derail the thread further with your retardation.

>>106249034
You are the retard having a meltdown that someone on 4chan /hpg/ thinks that selling a desk mount of your enemy is worth laughing at. If you care so much about that dog shit country go enlist or buy 50 of those reddit statues
but lets not derail further with your idiotic virtue signaling on 4chan of all websites

>>106244716
K11 R2R is the cheapest one that works, Aliexpress has them on deep discount. I think I'll get mine on Saturday. I can compare with dam1021 and nfb-1 2015

>>106246027
I'd rather get some Dekonis or even ZMFs at that rate.

>>106249262
>>106246027
it can get worse than them i guess, to be fair abyss is just a snake oil company so i doubt anyone is even aware of them

>>106248991
>pressure on my eardrums when wearing them
Means they seal well. Probably required for the linear bass response. Audeze planars are kind of similar but I've never seen earpads that aren't glued on create that kind of effect. Interesting.

>>106248208
right, just EQ your earbuds into K701s or HD800s, fucking kek

>>106248988
>6xx's next to my 800'
Problem is you still do not have any proper acoustic reference, so your subjective opinion is worthless. I have a Neumann KH120ii monitor setup with a woofer, and 580/600 sennys are still one of the best headphones to follow the tonality of anechoically flat speakers in-room response, if you don't consider slight sub roll-off (fixable with EQ).
>800's
Its been made to impress and grab cash from boomers with onsetting hearing loss. They are tonally and timbrally colored (although not in a bad way) but still are inferior in terms of truthful acoustic reproduction.
>graph niggering
Not only your subjective opinion is wrong but you are also too dim to comprehend objective data

>>106249352
you can actually for one of those shitcans

>>106230824 (OP)
What do you guys think of the Fidelio X2HR's what would be an upgrade

adx5000 sounds

Make way, niggers. Soul moving through

>>106249370
>Problem is you still do not have any proper acoustic reference, so your subjective opinion is worthless. I have a Neumann KH120ii monitor setup with a woofer, and 580/600 sennys are still one of the best headphones to follow the tonality of anechoically flat speakers in-room response, if you don't consider slight sub roll-off (fixable with EQ).
You assume wrong again bozo, you could of asked instead of just trying to piss me off all thread, so yes i have a reference i will explain it here so you don't need to keep guessing and making things up, when you are the ignorant one here.
I have r70x,dt770,hd800,6xx, DCA open x, mr speakers aeon flow closed (actual reference headphone unlike dog shit you post.) I have owned the k701,dt 880 and ath m50x, i have roland ma12c's,energy reference 22's, paradigm monitor 7's and omni 550s, technics 8088 pre amp, and about 15 stereo amps that i have yet to flip, if you need to know more i will post it
You are the average moron who lives in /iemg/ and thinks whatever has a fr close to harmon is good, regardless of how fucking distorted and awful sounding they are. I mean this quite literally, you could blind test 100k people and not 1 single person would pick the 6xx over the 800 even though 6xx is a substantially better fr result, but again lets cope more

>>106249377
X2s are kinda the only option in their niche, especially for their price. If you want affordable V-shaped open-backs there's really not much else.
Maybe roll the Chifiman QC dice and slap a ton of EQ on it, or DIY something with Aliexpress biodyna drivers and an open-back donor shell.

>>106249426
>claims to have a reference
>its all terrible gear and a neverending consoom
Some people are too retarded to even comprehend the fact that they are retarded.

>>106249383
that cable looks comfy, I'm sure it was disgustingly expensive though

>>106249498
You have absolutely no self awareness, and don't know what any of the speakers I posted are, or the amplifier. I really don't understand how people like you function. >uhh my dog shit hd 580 which is $100 usd is actually good because uhh your hd 800's are bad!
solid
if you actually cared about audio quality you would just buy aeons and stop being a poor 3rd worlder worshipping a headphone that hasn't been relevant in over 20 years

>>106249371
>misses the point entirely

i see /hpg/ is still a shithole with no useful advice, resources, or purpose
keep up the good work, and try to get at least 2 threads in a row will ya?
sincerely
/iemg/

>>106249877
we're in a constant civil war with the 3rd worlders anon. Luckily for you /iemg/ is just entirely 3rd worlders already so you don't have such issues. Say high to Zhang and Lee for me
Sincerely /hpg/
Ps, remember to clean your medical dildos, as they are known to drag out fecal matter and hairs after use

>>106249426
>mr speakers aeon flow closed (actual reference headphone unlike dog shit you post.)
I can't breathe, thanks for the laughs lmao

>>106249449
The DT 990 costs 40 euros more in my country are they worth it compared to the X2s?

>>106249877
I got good advice both this and last thread

spent the last 5 months using the 105 aer. DAC at 75, amp at 75 low gain, windows at 90, usually change the volume on foobar. sounds perfectly fine.
pulled the moonlight out yesterday, plugged it in, balanced out, just remembered how inefficient these mf's are.

I fucking ruined my ears by using my headphone amp too loud. I have permanent tinnitus and I can't hear the music the way I used to. Things sound dull and a little muffled. I can't really hear imaging or staging. Honestly thinking about selling off my amp and HD800S because I don't know if it's worth listening to them anymore

>>106250526
sell the amp and put that money into going to a retirement home gramps

I bought HiFiMans roughly 10 years ago and got headphones with white tape peeling off from the drivers of the headphones. Has their QC improved since then?

>>106249757
have a joint and a cup of coffee lil nigga

>>106249877
buy HE-R9, T50RP, TA-66, K11 R2R and SR-007 Mk1 there you happy

>>106250640
no its still chinese dogshit

>>106250703
how are you gonna power the sr-007 though? are you fucking stupid?

What's the best bang for my buck if I'm just a regular listener?

>>106251144
the most important part is being wireless so you can listen without being chained to your desk
also it bypasses the bad dac/amp solutions

check out audeze maxwell

>>106251144
Depends on the music you listen to. Are you a jazz and soul enjoyer or a bassnigger?
If you plan to listen to music on your computer Sennheiser HD560S costs 150€ and has the performance of 400€ headsets. They're easy to fix and have lots of spare parts and mods you can buy for them.
If you listen to music on your phone KZ ZSN Pro X is very good and costs around 10€ and if the cable stops working it costs a whopping 1€
Don't ever go wireless, stream music or God forbid, do both.

>>106249550
>You have absolutely no self awareness
That's a nice self-reflection here ngl
>if you actually cared about audio quality
That's why I bought one of the flattest studio monitors to have a proper reference.
You unironically listed Roland ma12c and other dated grandpa 30$ garage sale stuff as an argument, this is pure comedy at this moment.
> buy aeons
DCA headphones have shit treble consistency and are a waste of time, if you had any proper listening capability and a reference you would have understood that.
> being a poor 3rd worlder worshipping a headphone that hasn't been relevant in over 20 years
It's never been obsolete in the first place.
HD580 is a legacy, history and a hallmark of quality already holding for 30+ years I would proudly pass down to my children. I own kilobuck+ IEMs and a multiple thousand audio system, but classic sennys are still the headphone goats.

>>106251287
>zsn pro x
my sides
>>106251341
palavox yet?

>>106251373
Boutique pos are just a flex and are made grab cash from bored people looking for something new and most of them sound like shit (same applies to the headphones), there are some quirky enjoyable tunings like Forte Macbeth or Subtonic storm which are acoustically fine but likely won't stand the test of time.

I've found a Fotex T50RP MK4 in the UK for £149 (202 USD) unboxed in new condition. As someone new to headphones, should I grab it this week?

>>106246457
A little off topic but /g/ doesn't have speaker generals anymore. Would a Apple dongle to a AUX to RCA cable be the best way to get sound out of my Chromecast to active speakers?

>>106249877
>FOX IEM
>pos
>pos
>graphs
>pos
>FOX IEMS!
>pos
>Make new thread

>>106251825
Endgame.

>>106251833
kz

>>106251544
In general I would advise to stay away from fostex headpos (esp. budget ones) unless you demo and really like them.

The fuck they gave me a 3 meter cable for? Whipping niggers? My PC is like 70 cm away from me

>>106252057
If you don't whip niggas as a hobby, then you ain't livin

>>106252062
trvth nvke

>>106252057
cable routing

Is there any way to turn off the horrible 'touch' function on JBL headphones? Currently using a JBL Live 770NC and it annoys me so fucking much

I have 599 HDs and like them but they broke so looking to upgrade
~300 bux budget
Over ears
Preferably openbacks but not a requirement

Are Edition XS a meme? Should i just get some 650HDs? They are basically the same price.
No 6XX since I'm in Europe.

Thanks

>>106252637
650's are def. quite a bit warmer than 599's
The 600's would be a better upgrade if you liked the 599.
Also how the fuck are people breaking their 500 series lmao

>>106252677
I've had them since they released basically. I think the cable connector went funky. Could probably fix them honestly but after all these years it's an excuse to buy something nice for myself.

headphones to get at $5,000 budget?

>>106251144
HE-R9

>>106251098
>>106250703
sorry I meant nectar audio hive x. you power it with cash

>>106253363
hd800s + smyth realizer
rent a studio with calibrated speakers
enjoy

No amp?
No problem!

>>106253363
DCA Expanse is basically the pinnacle of headphone technology as far as all objective measurements are concerned.

Is this a good way to EQ?
>auto EQ to a diffuse field response
>use the 'tilt' to control warmth
>add bass and treble to taste
>remove sibilant areas
I've done this with my 599s and they sound totally different, without it sounds is as if I have a bag over my head
>>106252677
>warmer than 599's
comparing the graphs they look less warm, but have better bass extension

>>106250208
Nah, they suffer from distorted bass, overly spicy treble, voice coil failure and exploding hinges.

>>106253439
>Is this a good way to EQ?
Yes

>>106253439
I dunno I havent compared the graphs in a while.
I own the 650's, listened to the 600's and used to own the 599.
If youre willing to use EQ I would go for the 650's still

>headphone FR goes all over past ~5khz
Why does this happen?

>>106254055
ears fucking up every as per usual

>>106254085
everything, fml

>>106254085
Is it not an engineering limitation with dynamic drivers?

the hivex still uses the same stax pro bias and that absolute nitwit still hasnt listed what energizer to use. just solder the pins to the 4.4mm socket of the k11 directly i guess.
fucking braindead lobotomite

>>106254149
no, the ear is complex and will create weird shit past 5khz

>>106230331
I ended up getting these because my local shop gave me a massive deal on an open box pair of the white variant (it has the newer lock), I don't regret it because of the price but man you guys were right about the soundstage. They just fit my ear perfectly but I feel if the pads were a lot thicker and the driver was larger then people would rant and rave about these

>>106254189
true, that's what most headphones are tuned to emulate, but headphones themselves seem to have insane warbling
here's HRTF impulse measurements

>>106254349
here's a measurement of headphones
it goes crazy

>>106254349
>>106254362
the warbling is because of pinna * headphone coupling/interactions
you get the expected hrtf, and it is very warbly with some added resonances from either the driver or length mode and some additional dtf bs between channels so it seems like it is very warbly
the warbling from hrtf studies will vary depending on post-processing and measured angles and conditions

>>106254175
i said you power it with money. as in, high end electrostats should be plugged into the most powerful amp you can afford. dumb nigger.

>>106254362
No. This is measurement of headphones going crazy.

Headphone measurements are completely random above 5kHz and already shaky above 2kHz. The seal affects quality the response below 200Hz. The position on your head will affect 2kHz+. Pad condition will affect 5kHz+.

Sennheiser veil unveiled.

>>106232311
are on-ears actually comfortable for long hours?

>>106232311
Do you care about looks? A solid "headband" solution, like Valve Index's built in headphones might exist, or be feasible to build yourself, but it'd look pretty jank. Would prob be a destructive mod though.
How come IEMs don't work for you?

DOES HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER THIS EXIST?
>single-ended
>under 250 euros new
>channel balance control
I need nothing else.
>picrel
The Beresford Capella is the only one I'm aware of. I don't think that you can get it anywhere anymore.
>xDuoo mt-604
I have it. It's balanced, not single-ended. The gain is also too high even for my planars. But it's great.
>digital balance control
My source is analogue.
>preamp with balance control or other hacks
No, I'm not giving up in my search.
>Lake People/Violectric
When I find one used for a good price.

clueless retarded lobotomite can't even name one energizer and just spewing le ebin maymay garbage. why don't you just namedrop one already instead of being a complete meme spouting brainslug host

Why do people say tube amp make headphone better when I hear often that it doesn't matter what you get as long as it's able to handle your headphones at a decent volume?
I read somewhere that some cheap tube amplifier made "just so much of a difference" with the FiiO FT1 and I don't get it exactly. I heard that tube amps are not worth it under $500 or some shit.

>>106256508
tube amp has built-in "good" distortion that you might or might not like, it's a matter of preference
if you want to change how the audio sound you can also either use eq or add impedance adapter or play it from an old used receiver

>>106256390
dumb. nigger.

>>106253513
How about the Senny's HD590s

what are the best low sibilance wireless headphones? idk shit about headphones and i wanted some nice ones and i tried beyerdynamic headphones and hated those and refunded them.

>>106257507
*HD560s my bad

Anyone have any thoughts in Pro-Ject's DAC's? Specifically the Head Box S2 Digital
Feels ass to buy something that has Micro USB, but if it's a good piece of kit I can live with it.

>>106256508
It depends on the stage where the tubes are used, most cheap tube amps have them only on the preamplification stage, and the rest of the things is done with solid-state parts. With fancier amps you also get a power stage amplification done with tubes as well.
I have a small pentode JAN6418 amp and what it does in the tube mode (can be bypassed) is introducing bass rolloff and a lot of 2nd harmonics (1%+ at 100Hz, peaking around 4% at 20Hz). Yes this distortion is audible but I can't say it makes things sound better.

>>106258604
Graphs look decent, and Amir measured the Pre Box S2 Digital which was pretty competitive with Topping's DX7 so they clearly have some electrical engineering know-how

>>106257537
>Wireless
Any good wireless headpos manufacturer will have an app for EQ, just use that to dial down the treble. You could go to a Walmart, Best Buy, etc. to demo and see which one is the comfiest for you.

>>106258991
Yeah what little info I could find makes it sounds pretty good. And nice to buy something that isn't china shit.
I'll give them a chance

What are good headphones for listening to shitty gabber mixes on youtube in the $100-$200 range? Currently using sony mdr-7506s and I like them, but wondering what else I can get with slightly better low end without sacrificing too much in the mid and highs?

>>106256390
>>106257130
Uh oh, melty!

New gear!

>>106259577
Peace EQ

>>106247738
oooh I forgot this existed, thx

>>106259631
>>>/g/iemg

>>106247738
>2025
>movies

I'm looking for budget headphones up to 100 euros. I already looked at the recommended ones, but I want more options and opinions. Thanks in advance

>>106260929
KSC75 + Yaxi earpads, SHP9500, FiiO JT1

>>106256508
Tube amps are for poorfags like me

>>106260929
You can get HE-R9 and T50RP and still have euros to spare

>>106261405
I have a one-of-a kind poorfag amp that spritzer put together in a cave with a box of scraps and sold for 600 dollars over a decade ago. If I had to recommend something, it'd be something I haven't heard before. MT-F1 on Aliexpress with Nectar Sound Hive X should be the 2025 equivalent

is there a standalone mic rec list somewhere?

thinking about getting one with an arm BUT do you need it to be close to your mouth or is having it out of view ok when talking to friends? i've heard ppl complain about the mic being in the way and i cba with that

Might actually cop this frfr https://a.aliexpress.com/_mr3LbmV

really liking the cozy cheap china entry level, ripped the old man classical CDs he had laying around gathering dust, now I feel like I need to buy some for my own collection

Sovl for $120 https://a.aliexpress.com/_mq9lHI9

>>106263421
I bow to Aliexpress. Once I amass more coins I will buy more junk

>>106230824 (OP)
> Location
USA

> Budget
250ish

> Intended us
Videogaming, Music, Movies

> Kind
Prefer closed-back since my computer room is noisy.

> Past headphones
My pair of NVX XPT100s just died. I've used them for many years now.

> Source
1/8" jack from an electric-avenues PA2v2 amp

> Misc
As mentioned above, having comortable/soft earpads is very important. I suffer from the cursed combination of wearing glasses and having sensitive ears. A heavy/tight headband with normal earpads is fucking torture. The NVX had very soft earpads available, which is why I bouthe multiple pairs and the last one finally broke just now.

Please assist.

>>106263807
https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/he-r9-refurbished.html

>>106239943
>be born, sex & drugs, post on tibetian shadow puppets website, occasionally remember that im old

>>106263807
FiiO FT1 + capra strap for comfort. Don't listen to this faggot >>106263950
FT1 is still chinkshit but at least it's not chinkfiman and its frequency response isn't a total mess.

where are my sr850 sisters at, I'm going to be so sad when they finally stop making these shits.

>>106264271
cheers

>>106264271
FT1 costs as much as 3 HE-R9s. Terrible value.

>>106232372
Endgame is $370 Aliexpress Fiio K11 R2R, xDuoo TA-66, Hifiman HE-R9. Why spend more money?

>>106264506
>Headphone that has good tuning costs more than a headphone that has bad tuning
Truly a mystery.
>>106264551
>spending multiple more times on DACs/Amps instead of headphones
Why? You could have bought actual good headphones with that kind of money. It's not like HE-R9 is even that difficult to drive.

>>106264593
>just plug it into your motherboard bro

>>106264614
No, you can get a transparent DAC/Amp combo for like 100 bucks. Or less than half of that if a dongle is enough to power your cans. I've already seen too many retards say shit like
>No no you need this $6000 amp for these $100 headphones to sound good

>>106264652
Just because you can plug the HE-R9 into $100 doesn't mean you should.

Sovl comes at $53. Why spend more?

>>106264652
I quite enjoy my pa2v2, but am not opposed to an alternative if it's better

whats a decent transparent dac/amp combo for 100 burgerbux?

>>106264743
Topping DX1, iFi Uno, iFi ZEN Air DAC. There are a lot more. A lot of solid state designs are completely transparent as long as they're not using an R2R chip. Ideally you want something with more power since higher gain usually results in more distortion.

HE-R9 is the nigger version of the T50RP; dark but also fast, cheap, effortless separation, deep soundstage, bass, scales with source and amplification to sound less compressed

>>106265054
When I first put on the HE-R9s I was like wow these are the blackest, most niggest headphones but as I let them burn in overnight they were still niggerer yet clear brown cannons and the mud mostly cleared up. I plugged them to motherboard and it actually made them sound more like they first did, same tone but more compressed. I think the angled drivers and spaceous earcups demands the extra performance. Probably similar effect as the Stax SR-Sigma

>>106265140
K11 R2R and TA-66 both excel at soundstage and separation, HE-R9 and T50RP are both imaging headphones

>>106265235
Basically they're nigger bass with high end performance in the metrics that actually matter, no sennheiser veil, non-Vslop, non-harmanfaggotry, you're just hearing the sound that the chink considered to be based

should i still get the topping dx5 ii? i like the flashing lights and shit.

>>106265370
https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/hifiman-he-r9/34153/6

>>106265828
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/hifiman-he-r9-closed-back-dynamic-headphones.25762/reviews

why does the descriptions make it sound like the mdr z7 or z7m2 except the mids
guess it make sense since they already ripped off the r10

Why do IEMs feel like they need more bass than over-ears do?

>>106266633
more bass based on what measurements?

>>106266667
nigger based

>>106255984
Not amp but preamp.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/fosi-audio-zp3-preamplifier-review.64868/
Just don't use any of the tone doodads.

>>106267446
Also there might be cheaper preamps that can do this.

>>106260005
That's some great aesthetic gear my friend

>>106230824 (OP)
>Location
Eu
>Budget
Not sure, maybe up to around 30 euro if it's really spicy
>intended use
just for my desktop PC; gaming, movies, music, youtube etc.
>Kind
I'd prefer similar to my old ones, I'm not really good at these things, but wired over-ears. Would probably prefer closed as well. I already have an exterior microphone, so I don't need one with a mic or a "gamer" headset or anything like that.
>Past headphones
I used to have HD 558 for several years before they literally fell apart, I'm looking for something similar to them.
>Source
desktop-PC. I think my HD 558s had a 3.5mm jack? Sorry, not good at this.

Are wireless headphones generally shittier for the same price point as wired ones? Are there even any decent ones with a USB dongle? My HyperX Cloud IIs finally broke (rip) and I need a replacement. Right now I'm about to order AKG K612 Pros but it's mainly the wire that's keeping me back

I've been wanting to get wireless for a while so I can walk around and keep listening in, but wireless headphones have been pretty shit in my experience. Rn I'm using WH1000XM4s that are plugged in and the audio quality is much shitter than my old PC headphones (possibly due to being plugged in)

>>106269166
nvm it was the extension jack that was fucked

>>106269166
i already ordered the K612 Pros and they just arrived and i swear my cloud IIs seem better for listening to music comparing them side by side lol. but i think that is probably due to me having tuned my audio mixed for the cloud IIs like 5 years ago

Thoughts on the Schiit Gunnr? I want a good Dac/Amp that also has good mic input, and I’m split between that or the Fosi K7. The reasons I’m considering the Schiit is the fact that the additional EQ features seem better implemented in the Schiit, and I also don’t like screens on my amps, but otherwise the Fosi seems better all around.

i have adx5000

>>106269806
Cant speak for the K612 pros but give them time. Last year I had a wireless razer headset, got dt 990 pros and disliked them. Had to wear the 990s for a few months cause my headset broke, then when I ordered a new wireless headset I hated them. Much prefer the open backs now

>>106270102
The Fosi measures better but both of these are transparent so that doesn't matter much. Schiit's customer support and qc suck ass so I wouldn't buy anything more from them based on that alone.
>>106269806
That's how burn in works. Your brain adapts to the sound. So try the K612 for a few days and then compare with the clouds. They'll probably sound like shit in comparison then.
>>106268987
I really hope you meant 300 euro because at 30 there's literally nothing that's not some flavor of dogshit unless you want used

>>106270873
>>106270850
>That's how burn in works. Your brain adapts to the sound. So try the K612 for a few days and then compare with the clouds. They'll probably sound like shit in comparison then.
i configured a equalizer apo profile for the k612s and now they sound quite good. going back to the default audio makes it kinda clear they were poopy out of the box. but now i'd say they're better than my previous headphones

the hyperx seems to have a lot of other failing wires so i will probably keep these k612s

Which has the least amount of ear rape, MDR-7506, DT770 or M50x?

>>106271444
M50x

>>106270873
Yeah, I meant 300 euros

K11 R2R is $100 after coupons in 3 days https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrm4bO5

>>106268987
>>106271753
ATH M50x or AKG K371. You might want to get a dongle DAC or something similar with the leftover money. Even an apple dongle would probably suffice and be cleaner than your onboard audio.

>>106246228
>recognize all sound media is recorded in shit quality and it doesnt matter
I love when I find that one of my favorite albums was recorded and mastered like shit and I can never listen to it on good headphones

>>106268987
>HD 558 for several years before they literally fell apart
how the fuk

hey discord, i have hd620s

>>106248106
oooh I like the font on precision

just upgraded the headband on my Quad ERA-1
now I need to DIY the best possible suspension strap and it'll be complete, but with how cramped the driver housing was, it's safe to say that the most difficult has been done

Anyone know the product code for the 90mm rings 3m Make for their double sided tape? I ask because nearly every pair of cups i've bought have come with some (i'm using an M1060 but lmao anything that fits an LCD2 also fits) and my existing tape has disintegrated and my research just ends up with the rolls of tape rather than the circles suitable for cups.

So I bought hd 600s
they are honestly a lot more uncomfortable than my akgs but they are alright. I'm still rocking the magni amp with no dac

>>106274574
new HD600 are uncomfortable due to the clamp. When you fix that however they are god tier. I can wear mine for 12 hours with zero fatigue. How you go about lessening the clamp is up to you, I would recommend pic related it is what I did.

>>106274910
for me it isn't the clamp. It's the top part on my head. It starts to get sore after hours of wearing

>>106274953
on brand new ones? which headband do you have? the one in the pic I posted or the new ones? my headband wore out after 5 years and I would feel a bit of that but I got a new one and since then it's no issues.

>>106274910
not anon, but I found mine uncomfortable due to the headband padding (the newer one with HD650-style padding), not clamping force. I also had an HD650 briefly in 2017 and don't remember having comfort issues but was likely too new to have standards at the time
right now, I wouldn't trust comfort claims unless the headphones either weigh nothing (like the super cheap ones koss makes) or have a suspension strap design in particular for anything over 400g

Planar magnetic still reign supreme (>staxx) right?

>>106275367
haven't tried Stax yet so I don't know. on paper, electrostats should have the most potential thanks to not having to use magnets
blindbuying an L300 system will obviously let me down and not compare favorably to good planars whereas blindbuying an L700 or SR-007+energizer becomes a leap of faith
Stax also released the SR-X1 recently which has the merit of not looking silly but I bet it's even worse than entry-level lambdas

>>106275367
>>106275465
Modern planar drivers? Yeah. They have comparable THD to electrostat drivers(Audeze in particular) and aren't limited to 110 dB before distorting like electrostats are. Stax are deficient in the bass and a >10dB bass shelf will cause them to distort at high volumes. It's a lot more difficult to fuck up an electrostatic design than a planar, though. SR 007 and CRBN are still pretty great headphones, though. But DCA Expanse is better. Most electrostats are very good and there's lot of shitty planars. But a well designed planar magnetic headphone is, to me, the pinnacle of headphone technology.
t. owns Stax

Putting holes in a headphone is like putting holes in your umbrella. Whoever thought of that idea was a fucking idiot. I’m tired of hearing my fridge run while using Internet-approved “hurr durr six hungos” or whatever. At least the Apple EarPods are useful compared to this crap.

>>106275501
>I'll get this headphone that doesn't block any noise because it sounds better
>wtf why doesn't it block any noise

>>106275486
>They have comparable THD to electrostat drivers
Are we talking human perceptible or into only machine measurable territory?

>>106275572
Only machine measurable. Anything below 0.5% distortion is imperceptible to the human ear and some planars reach electrostat tier THD levels which are far far lower than that.

>>106275501
>I’m tired of hearing my fridge run
Stop living next to your fridge then? Dont get open back if you live like a hobo?
What the fuck are you even talking about Anon?

>>106275790
>audio meme review

>>106275501
I solved this by getting rid of my fridge

Just got some Hifiman Sundara Closed-Back. They sound like ass.

>>106275971
>chinkfiman
>closed back chinkfiman
>sounds like shit
Many such cases

Have you guys received your Hifiman HE-600s yet?

>>106276056
I don't really trust the renowned Dr. Fang Bian enough to believe the claim of it being a proper HE-6 successor
if I were in the market for that kind of headphones right now, I'd probably buy NAN-7 instead—they're very chinese but it's not like Hifiman isn't

>>106275971
Should've got the open ones, they're the only ones worth a damn

New thread, Pastebin link should be fixed
>>106276391
>>106276391

>>106276257
I can't say if they're better than the HE-6, since I never heard those, but I think I prefer them to the HE-500.