Thread 106233697

1) It is 1993.
2) Linus Torvalds wants programmers because he cannot steal from the Minix Source code anymore.
3) He does not want to pay them.
4) He wants them to work for free.
5) This doesn't work.

6) He comes up with a scheme
7) "Hey lets work together, you'll get fame, we'll both get a unix OS on i386, people will honour your code contributions".
8) Hackers suddenly code for Linus.
9) "Also we will sue anyone who violates the GPL"
10) "I expect all changes to come back to me"
11) More hackers work for linus.

There is an agreement there:
In exchange for labour and access to hackers copyrighted works and use thereof:
Linus agrees to
1) give the hackers fame
2) make a unix OS that runs on i386
3) honour the hackers who wrote the code.
Linus additionally agrees to
4) Sue anyone who violates the copyright on the hackers code, probably as a Joint action
5) Require licensees to send him copies of their changes, eventually, somehow (yes this isn't in the GPL: but he stated it on video, and that is what people understood)


Removing hackers contributions violates 1 and 3 of the contract.
Not suing Grsecurity/PaX violates 4 and 5.
Which is what most of the hackers worked under.

It is all documented on the LKML emails and videos from slashdot.

Fuck that shitty os corpos use it out of sheer laziness

>>106233697 (OP)
tldr
still not installing Windows11

Nobody is willing to do anything for free, linux is usable because of immense corpo contributions.

>>106233715
Sure there are. The market sucks and the only way to make anything interesting is to do it for free.

>>106233697 (OP)
>Removing hackers contributions violates 1 and 3 of the contract.
>Not suing Grsecurity/PaX violates 4 and 5.
>Which is what most of the hackers worked under.
anyone knows why the fuck did they choose this approach to software exactly? I mean Grsecurity/pax - why don't they release they sources like they did in the past.

Really they can't get the money needed for their work by other means than hiding the source code (and binaries)?

>>106233697 (OP)
not every programmer is a hacker

>>106233703
Go back to the days prior to Linux 0.01, where every vendor had their proprietary Unix OS.

The vendors could have produced a single OS, but they chose not to.

Good or bad, Linux + Gnu was the single system the vendors would not provide.

Linus was in the right place at the right time.

>>106233715
LInux, the kernel, is critical for operation of corporate, hence it is "safe" in that it will be maintained.
As long as the corpors adhere to the licensing, it should be fine.

There are other issues that naturally arise with open collaborative work, but they've been quite consequent in handling it:
>Some researchers from the University of Minnesota tried to slip bad patches into the Linux kernel as a "test."
>When they kept trying, Greg Kroah-Hartman, the Linux kernel maintainer for the stable branch, put an end to their efforts by banning their university from Linux development.
https://linuxsecurity.com/news/organizations-events/greg-kroah-hartman-bans-university-of-minnesota-from-linux-development-for-deliberately-buggy-patches

>>106233697 (OP)
U mad?

>>106233697 (OP)
>cannot steal from the Minix Source code anymore
>anymore
Why not?

Globohomo glowniggers took Linus and put him in a psych ward after he shat all over Intel back when Spectre and Meltdown happened, and showed him videos of what happens to important public figures who don't do what they're told.

They were going to torture his daughter to death in front of him if he didn't do everything they wanted. So you can hardly blame him for selling out.

They tried this with Jobs but he didn't give a shit about anybody else but his daughter. So they had his wife give him turbo AIDS.

>>106237678
>Globohomo glowniggers took Linus and put him in a psych ward after he shat all over Intel back when Spectre and Meltdown happened, and showed him videos of what happens to important public figures who don't do what they're told.
>They were going to torture his daughter to death in front of him if he didn't do everything they wanted. So you can hardly blame him for selling out.
shizo?