Thread 106235742

Discussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video Models

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https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassic
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://tensor.art
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>WanX
https://github.com/Wan-Video
2.1: https://rentry.org/wan21kjguide
2.2: https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide
https://alidocs.dingtalk.com/i/nodes/EpGBa2Lm8aZxe5myC99MelA2WgN7R35y

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/tree/main
Training: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
1girl and Beyond: https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
Tag Explorer: https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Samplers: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbours
https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#rentry-from-other-boards
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/b/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo

>>106235742 (OP)
>3x smoking webms, most likely from the same anon and thus the baker

smoking is not cool.

> gen with chroma 50 for image composition and prompt following
> refine with chroma 48 for image quality

>>106235771
no u

total cigger death

>>106235803
if it's one thing millennials did right, it's discourage kids from smoking. nobody but boomers smoke cigs. kids vape now

Blessed thread of frenship

reminder chroma is better than qwen on photoreal

what a worthless pan down
i need to make a system prompt so i never get a prompt for feet that aren't bare again

but what i actually need to do is stop pretending like 5 seconds is enough for a pan/cut/second shot

>>106235859
it's not that. smoking is still cool, it's just that tar is gross and smells bad. vapes smell good
no one ever gave a fuck about healthiness. kids still smoke weed

>>106235911
The only retards shilling that crap are furries

>>106235776
depending on what style you're going for, any of the multitude of shitmix illust/nai models do a decent job too.
when going for anime, i like making a rough outline of what i want with sdxl the refining with chroma. works quite well.

stupid morphing tables

>>106235956
table erected when she started rubbing it.
so relatable.

>>106235937
>no one ever gave a fuck about healthiness. kids still smoke weed
weed isnt remotely comparable to smoking tobacco. you can smoke weed all day and be fine with healthy lungs

>>106236025
not that anon, but isn't vaping still not amazingly healthy? especially if you cheap out and get some sus shit

>>106235771
ngl that shit really tilts me, even though I used to smoke. it STINKS

>>106236025
Yeah instead it rots your brain and you know this because everyone knows what a "stoner" looks and sounds like.

>>106235742 (OP)
anyone got the superman webm? lmao

i managed to use qwen. not bad, but why do I have the same scenes for the medieval content? the random genning doesn't change anything

/ldg/ - local dopaminergics general

>>106236053
nicotine itself is a poison. nothing in weed really compares

>>106236070
social media addiction rots your brain worse than a weed addiction. at least with a weed addiction you touch grass (heh) often

i was wrong though when i said no one cared about healthiness. governments with a tax burden care, especially left wing ones that pay for their citizens healthcare

Are Chroma v49 and the 50s better at photorealism than 48?

>>106236089
You weed fags are so funny and you get so defensive over your totally safe and not-addictive drug. Again, proof it rots your brain because you immediately go to whataboutism while posting your brain-coom rotted gen on 4chan (which you probably spam 24/7) while high on weed. You're a genetic failure anon and when Digital IDs come you're gone forever.

>>106236053
its not healthy but its miles better than a cigarette which is literally just a cancer stick.

Local Diffusion?

>>106236117
Local Pulmonology

rentry status??

>>106236148
Ayakon is it you?

>>106236164
yes, I stopped posting on /h/ because the shitposting was too much to the point of just being boring

>use --cache-none in comfy arguments at startup
>wan 2.2 is much faster now with ram actually getting cleaned up
should be in the guide desu

>>106236171
Yeah, me too. But there is /hgg/ with much less shitpost.
What is
>
?

i wish there was a place for softcore nudity. like i have some booba i mildy want to share with the world but this is a blue board and /gif/ feels hardcore focused and /b/ feels hardcore and child and not photoreal focused

>>106236100
none of the sentences you said were impactful enough to affect my blood pressure
have a pity (You)

>>106236117
yeah im diffusing locally what about you

>>106236203
/aco/

>>106234708
Thanks for testing! Interesting stuff.

>>106236195
4chan supports seeing the metadata without catbox now?
https://civitai.com/models/1452858/slopslayer-lora-shiny-horrible-average-ai-style-to-put-in-negatives

>>106236192
What does that actually do? Does it offload/unload models then takes an eternity to load them after every generation?

>>106236203
just censor the nips and hide the actual gen behind catbox.moe and post the link

>Downloaded more RAM from 64GB to 128GB like one anon from previous threads.
>Shaved 80 seconds across the board.

Worth it I suppose.

why am I not seeing any job listing for using local diffusion?

>>106236203
and yet you did a pussy "nuh uh" reply
just so you know, obsessive lying is also brain rot and you will get Alzheimer's when you lie like this
I'm starting to get why you people are like this though: autism + weed is why you are so unoriginal and repeat yourself every day

>>106236220
because you're in /ldg/ stupid

>>106236220
look under producing marketing materials

>>106236213
>takes an eternity to load
UUUU poorfag

>>106236211
That pic has stealthpng metadata embedded.

>>106236220
I unironically used local diffusion in my job. Any job that requires product shots instantly becomes a local diffusion candidate.

>>106236100
NTA but everything is addictive if you do it constantly, if you do a drug and then don't do it then it's impossible to become addicted

>>106236233
huh I never actively applied anything like that, new default on 4chanx?

>>106236216
Looks like 128GB RAM is going to become the standard for ai video gen. I remember the day I got 32GB RAM and my 4070tis 16GB and thought it was hot shit, kek

>>106236243
what? i breath and eat, none of those are addictive. alright, silly example but I ride a bike regularly and that sure as fuck isn't addictive.

>>106236247
Don't know about 4chanx. If you use forge it could have applying enabled.

>>106236243
Ah yes the "I can quit any time" defensive weed poster. It's always funny because you people always pop up the second weed addiction is brought up giving the same addict response that stems from a fundamental insecurity about their behavior. If you're not addicted to weed and you can stop any time, you wouldn't need to defend it. It's psychology 101.

M.I.L.L.D
(Man, I Love Local Diffusion)

My Krita crashed, I was in the middle gen'ing dozens of gardevoirs saying no to cigarettes and vapes REEEEEEeee.

I didnt mind that krita was a little slow (the program, not the generating) but fuck me am i noticing it now.

>>106236220
you need 10 yoe with stable diffusion, bro

>>106236261
If I were addicted to weed I wouldn't be clean for over a year already, but you can continue with your projecting botposts, I don't mind

Where are my favorite R girls gens?

>>106236224
i'm probably getting alzheimers anyways tbdesu

>>106236215
censoring nips on a video is too much effort for this low effort slop
https://files.catbox.moe/d4lq0k.webm
hag feet are hit or miss for me but i need more than 5 seconds already. i have reached the limits of my creative potential with 5 second clips and want the ability to do simple cuts/zooms/pans that WAN already knows how to do, just with a frame length long enough to take advantage of that knowledge

>>106236206
>/aco/
Seems like there's no thread for it. the stable diffusion thread there said no Hailuo so i'm assuming they don't want photoreal video at all

>>106236220
plenty of jobs use diffusion from comp sci to marketing. but i can't think of any job that would have local-only diffusion as a requirement (remember all the big AI guys have government/healthcare versions of their AIs and contracts so most of the time compliance/PII is not an issue here)

>>106236220
They mostly use popular closed source shit, However, if you use terms like "comfyui" you might find things like this on indeed https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=2eabf29feb799765&tk=1j2febjiu294i08u&from=serp&vjs=3

Downside is, they usually want real graphics designers and a bunch of other goofy requirements

>>106236231
RUDE

>>106236195
it's just a shitty "look mom I trained a lora on AI slop and putting it as a negative will totally make my garbage not look like slop!" lora.
(it doesn't help)
(it actually makes everything worse)
(he doesn't have an aesthetic or artistic sense to actually recognize this)

>>106236276
Again, you replied, your reply indicates insecurity, it's that simple. If someone says "video games are addicting, some people will ruin their lives with microtransactions" you don't need to reply "I play video games and I'm not addicted." Okay anon... sure. If you use weed responsibly you wouldn't need to reply to me near instantly with a comeback. I like drinking and I can understand alcoholism. So either act like an adult or further prove my assertion you're a weed addict.

>>106236284
In your output folder

>>106236332
how can I be addicted to something I'm not consuming?

>>106236322
But Ayakon's gen looks good. As always.

>>106236294
aco has two threads. one for cartoons and one for realism.
and if you're posting animation shit you can just go to gif.

things we dare to talk about in /ldg/
>qwen vs chroma
>5070ti vs 3090

>>106236357
Because this reply indicates this statement is a lie. Motivation 101. You should be well aware of this given most of your spam is ignored, so you understand when people don't care they don't reply. Circle back to "weed is brain rot". Let's pretend you aren't lying, then we have to deconstruct your critical thinking (or lack thereof).

>>106236397
>when people don't care they don't reply.
you do understand that this is an imageboard where people talk to eachother, right?
maybe all that weed you smoke has smoked your brain, have you tried seeking help for your addiction?

*yawn*

>>106236368
maybe if you ignore the disjointed wrist, banded to shit background gradient, mismatched glove color, the weird sweat that exists because... it does okay??!? the extra band on the lower leg of the plugsuit or just how generic AI generated it looks.
but sure if your standards are that low then be sure to lik and subscrib to his twttr n ptron :^)

other than 10 second videos i need the following two loras to be happy
- big ass lora (not twerking, just big asses like we have for big breasts. surprised this doesn't exist yet)
- messy lora or just more "mess intelligence" because this is not splattered and messy enough. could be a prompt issue i admit

>>106236369
you're right. they renamed it it's now called MMAI thanks i was looking for /aivg/. i will dump some of my booba slop there i guess

What's the proper way to prompt for styles/photorealism with Chroma? I've been doing the following and it keeps either putting the actual cameras in my gens or adding a border, like you'd see on a printed picture.
>Photo taken with a Sony digital camera, {rest of prompt}
>A photo taken with a Sony digital camera. {Rest of prompt starting in a separate sentence}
>A photo taken with a Canon EOS 90D using a Canon EF-S 18-135mm f-3.5-5.6 IS USM lens. {Rest of prompt starting in a separate sentence}
I'm not sure whether any of these actually make a difference or not but I feel like none of them are consistent with how they affect my gens.

>>106236333
Can't find any.

how do i transmute a 2.1 lora into a 2.2 lora? i find 2.2 way better but i need my loras

>>106236397
Not everyone has the time to waste reading each and every single post like your retarded intake.

>>106236428
seethe and cope nogen, post the same idea but ""better"" then.

>>106236414
I don't see every post here has a reply. Thus, I think you have selection bias, should we ask ourselves why weed addiction is your selected topic?

trolls absolutely clean house ITT with so many gullible retards

Any tip for getting proper jiggle going in wan 2.2, I'm comparing it to kling and there's barely any movement

>>106236428
It's an art, not a blueprint.
There is no need to be so jealous.

>>106236483
not specifically weed addiction, just pointed out that you can get addicted to anything if you consume it consistently enough, weed is no exception, but if you consume within reasonable levels then it is no more addictive or dangerous than anything else

>>106236428
bodysuits are always sweaty

my fellow chromasters, i've found that using booru tags after the natural language prompt can help quite a bit in nudging it even closer towards the image you actually want. pretty sure i read this in their discord a while back too, the trained dataset had natural language + tags.
maybe this won't be the case for you, but it does help my prompts regardless of realism or anime/cartoon.

>>106236506
Are you kidding me? My bitches' asses be jiggling unprompted and for no reason on 2.2, with lightx2v 2.1 anyway.

>>106236536
That wasn't your original argument so I see the concessions have begun. You've now admitted in your soft way that weed is addictive. That was my only point. Whataboutism doesn't matter, I don't care if heroin is more addictive, there are many people who only do weed, and this is particularly relevant right now because there are literal weed addicts in this very thread doing the "at least I'm not doing heroin in a casino with my mortgage" argument. Which of course is hilarious because minimalization and whataboutism is classic addict rhetoric.

>>106236513
I'm only giving critique to the claim that it "looks good" (it does not)
I don't give a fuck otherwise. Also not sure what there is to be jealous of when his socials have been stagnant for months on end and he gets next to nothing in terms of interaction. But sure whatever.
>>106236565
Yeah, because it smothers the body. You wouldn't see that sweat all over the face/open areas of skin though(those are all ventilated, you know). The comment is because the sweat is literal AI artifact jank.

>>106236463
>how do i transmute a 2.1 lora into a 2.2 lora?
maybe you can wrangle it with delta weights to be a bit closer but if you've never dealt with loras before then i dont think you should start by trying to "transmute"

>>106236506
get a jiggle lora. 2.2 is better for natural jiggle than 2.1

>>106236536
>you can get addicted to anything
addiction has two components, the chemical part and the habitual part. scientists don't consider the second part addiction at all which is why porn addiction isn't a real "addiction" because there is no chemical hook. the chemical part of weed is very weak, its mostly just accepting that your life is going to be a bit more boring that's the hard part with weed

>>106236565
this is advanced sweat fetish content wow. whats crazy is we'll be able to make this in 10 years 100%. in 5 years probably 50%

bad bot

are there any videos which are tutorial and easy to udnerstand to get into local diffusion? honestly it sounds kinda complicated when you don't know what you are doing looking at the getting started guide

>>106236602
there is sweat because I prompted for sweat because I thought it looked hot, hope that helps

How do I deal with the seams? Lower cfg? Chroma V50

>>106236622
learn to code if you actually want to use AI to acheive your hopes and dreams

>>106236453
starting with "a photo of x" and avoiding booru tags and anything that has to do with "quality" works pretty well

Speaking of chroma, any way to further speed it up? I have

>chroma NAG workflow
>Chroma-Turbo-Alpha-Conv lora at 6 steps

Theres a 4 step lora but its absolutely terrible

>>106236652
Flash version/lora works fine and gets it down to ~20 seconds.

>>106235771
i only did the miku one but not the others and i'm not the baker. also i don't smoke irl

>>106236565
ah fuck that's disgusting

>>106236649
i have never seen a more gender ambiguous and age ambiguous face in my life

this could literally be either a 14 year old girl or 55 year old weird al

>>106236652
The flash loras dumb the model too much. Just run euler + 10 steps to give you a vague idea of the seed and then just bake the good pics.

>>106236632
how did you even manage that? that looks like you outpainted it badly. what is your current cfg? i use 3~5.

>>106236506
Just ask for it
a high quality video of an adorable chubby anime girl, in a dimly lit bedroom at night, leaning over a chair, slowly swaying her hips side to side, in a seductive way

>>106236707
seriously? this sucks.

>>106232609
good shit, heh

>>106236639
What do you gain from local diffusion if you actually know how to code?

>>106232609
the funny thing is, this was never a real thing. it was just a shitpost that went viral back in the day.

>>106236733
Oh OK, I didn't realize you're an expert.
Go fuck yourself then.

>>106236756
he's fucking with you.
you really do not need to know how to code. you can even throw a question at gpt/deepseek/gemini and ask it to make you a node.

>>106236707
not that anon that responded to you but you could have added something like "her bellyfat jiggles" or "her huge ass jiggles" to make your point.

>>106236787
i'm saying saying, without a lora dedicated to twerking/ass shaking, you won't get good results. Wan can only do the most basic SFW shit without a lora because it's censored.

>>106236795
that's actually what I did
because i'm a smoothbrain i just asked for chatgpt for help and it's much more comprehensible now, i'm downloading forge as we speak and i'll try to make nodes to create pictures

everything about fluids has room for improvement in WAN

>>106236821
> forge
> nodes

w-what? forge etc do not have nodes. they have scripts, sure. but no nodes like comfyui

>>106236795
>you can even throw a question at gpt/deepseek/gemini and ask it to make you a node
you still need to know how to code a tiny bit to vibe code. ai can do 80% of the leg work but you still need to finetune it. sometimes you get lucky and whatever you were trying to do was simple and it doesn't need modification.

>>106236584
>That wasn't your original argument
learn to read, nigger >>106236243

>>106236837
I said nodes sorry I meant LoRas.
Forge has LoRas right? I just want to train my AI and feed it pictures of my favorite artists.

that last gen was actually pretty good kek

biggest issue is the fluid just disappearing once its applied, especially on the tongue, and I have no idea how this can be fixed beyond just training a better and smarter model because you want the ability to wipe stuff off as well

>>106236860
yeah. you train a lora with separate programs though. forge is just to run the model + loras

>>106236693
anon who made 2000's photo lora had some butterfaces in the dataset (and that's a good thing)

>>106236884
which one do you recommend me to go with for starters?

>>106236888
i hope that same anon brings his passion for 2000s photos to wan with a 2000s video lora

>butterfaces in the dataset (and that's a good thing)
i wonder what would happen if you trained a lora on ugly people and then used it with a negative weight

>>106236900
for sdxl (illust/nai) i used onetrainer because it has a GUI and was fairly one-click. honestly there are a trillion videos and guides on training a video so depends on what you're training you'd want to look up the relevant info for that and then just let it yolo. can always refine the settings afterwards. i think in the previous thread an anon had some settings that were more or less guaranteed to work, or so.

>T2V/I2V 14B lightx2v: 1280x720, 16 fps, 81 frames, 4 total steps, shift 5, euler, cfg 1
so this is the power of moe...
i also tried genning with more than 81 frames and it doesn't seem to work at all which leads me to declare it useless

for anime cuties

>>106236943
meant to link to
>>106233318

>>106236658
>>106236696
Yeah I tried a couple of them and they slop out pretty hard. Euler/A is pretty good but I discovered deis_3m_ode or something, the details are pretty wild

>>106236921
I don't wnat to train videos but pictures, anime pictures actually, thank you i'll check it out

>>106236840
No, you originally tried to trivialize and minimize weed addiction with a sleight of hand by doing the "bro sandwiches are totally as addictive as weed" counter-defense bait and switch. I get that you don't understand that's what you did which is understandable given you're defending weed addiction so it's common to not understand your subconscious defensiveness. You don't know *why* you need to trivialize weed addiction, only that that's the right answer within your frame of mind. Do you believe weed dependency isn't related to it being a downer and that sandwiches are as addictive as weed to the average person? Or will you cite the "my weird addiction" TV show and say sandwiches are equally addictive and life destructive. Or will you concede weed is more addictive than most substance? I'm sorry, I'm just working with your assertion that everything can be addictive, so I picked sandwiches, so please indulge. My point being: sandwiches can be addictive to someone, sure, but if your argument is that weed is only as addictive as that, you’ve already proven my point about minimization and maybe you don't recognize that was your attempted rational with Exhibit A.

But I'm willing to accept you're not capable of understanding your argument if that makes you feel better. If you actually believe you didn't shift your goalposts from A to B then you might not be logically capable of continuing this discussion.

>>106236997
this guy needs to smoke some weed and chill out

>>106236997
TL;DR, you should really learn to read what other people write before typing out a long-winded diatribe.

How do I turn off this ComfyUI minimap shit? All my workflows have the preview on the right, and I size it to take up the whole screen. The minimap blocks part of it and it annoys me.

Is there a simple way to compare workflows? I run a bunch of tests changing a single value, but I'm lazy and don't record what I change with each run. I know I can load the workflow into comfyui from the metadata in my saved output, but then I have to check by eye what the difference is. Since the workflow is a JSON object, is there already a tool to easily compare diffs in workflows?

>>106236997
sir, this is the local diffusion/schizo general. i see you got the schizo part, but can you talk about diffusion

>>106237008
its obvious he was gooning while writing that post anon. you're basically doing the same thing as replying to someone who posts "stroking"

>>106236997
Do you actually have evidence that weed is addictive or is it just your inherent bias and prejudice regarding illegal drugs?

>>106236975
>>106236921
i've just been following chatgpt isntructions desu and it's told me to install https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss into local diffusion extensions, is this a bad idea? or are there much better options

>>106237008
Except I did read what you wrote and I wrote a rebuttal based on what you wrote. Sorry if you're dumb and it's understandable, weed rotted your brain. :) You may explain how I didn't read your post correctly, but if you need TL;DR for your own points:

Exhibit A:
I don't do weed, I only defend it.

to

Exhibit B:
Everything is addictive including sandwiches

>>106237066
You already lost, buddy, there's no point in typing out any more copeposts

>>106236499
And they're still falling for it

>>106237066
just fuck off back to /pol/ already

>>106236565
ah fuck that's hot

>>106237009
click the minimap button, anon.

>>106237033
- DSM-5 Recognition
- Regular use can cause withdrawal symptoms: irritability, insomnia, appetite changes, anxiety.
- Psychological Dependence: obvious, people use weed to relax and cope which a prime ingredient for any addiction.
- Tolerance Development: chronic users need more over time to achieve the same effect, which is a feedback loop with Psychological Dependence.

Feel free to do your own research, I understand weed-heads don't actually care about facts and right now in the alcoholism denialism stage. I don't deny alcoholism, you can do the courtesy of understanding weed is *like* alcohol, many people are capable of drinking one or two drinks to unwind on the weekends, if this is you and weed, you can stop being defensive. But let's be serious, most weed users are "day drinkers". If you went to work high, you are a day drinker and a prime candidate for proof of addiction because you can't even keep weed use recreational, on the weekends, out of work hours. But watch as people come out of the weeds to defend this.

>>106237018
look on github, there's some PNG metadata reader iirc

>>106237131
What is that?

>>106237154
that's the water intake and a valve to close it. you've never seen a toilet?

>>106237154
That's where the water flows into the basin, dingaling

>>106236914
>i wonder what would happen if you trained a lora on ugly people and then used it with a negative weight
it just fucks up your results. negative value loras have never worked like they are advertised

comfy should be dragged out on the street and shot

>>106237154
>actual indian poster has never seen a toilet before
understandable.

>>106237162
>>106237164
Interesting, I think mine uses some kind of gravity assisted system with the pipe above the basin?

DUDE WEED LMAO 420

>>106237092
>And they're still falling for it
what if i told you that some people enjoy shitposting about nothing and it's difficult to judge then when we're in an AI thread

>>106237131
>mfw said weed is fine when i have never smoked anything in my life and now anons have spent 2hours arguing about it
kek same. some other anon jumped on the initial trollpost retort aimed at me and it just went from there

>>106237135
>DSM-5 Recognition
trust me when I say that you don't want this to be your authority on anything whether the stuff inside agrees with your pre-held beliefs or not. the DSM-5 was unironically a mistake

>>106237168
>negative value loras have never worked like they are advertised
pretty sure there were a couple of age sliders trained that way and they seemed to work just fine from the examples and comments but i never tested it myself

>>106237135
So your only evidence is its listing in the DSM-5? The DSM-5 also lists an Internet Gaming Disorder. Do you also go around posting about off-topic gaming addictions?

>>106237193
you're underaged and just discovered /pol/, we know

>git pull reforge
>All gens are now non-deterministic.

What the fuck. What did they changed.

When I make a LoRa, do I want to make it for a type of character specifically? Or for an artist? Or mix both? Like do I take a character on one side and then an artist on another LoRa and tell the AI to mix both? Is that how it works?

>>106237244
this is what happens when you use AI before learning basic linear algebra and you cannot imagine what it looks like when you add two vectors together

>>106237227
ooo nice

>>106237244
You want ot use as few loras as possible. So if you can gather a dataset of the character in that particular artists art style, that would be best. Otherwise you do two loras, one for art style and one for character.

>>106237200
1) I didn't start the weed discussion. I'm just point out your logical inconsistency whenever you say weed isn't addictive or isn't like alcohol. 2) I also listed reasoning beyond DSM-5 which operate independently of their definition. Unlike a pure appeal to authority, I only recognize it exists and they're likely more qualified than you, but my logic does not depend on them having it as a listed disorder.

Given you immediately shifted the goalposts I'll put a [x] next to "If you went to work high". And yes, like other anon said, anything can be addictive and yes, Online Gambling Disorder is real. :) And in the case of the people in this thread, it seems weed, internet and AI addiction seems to be the trifecta.

>>106237244
over complicating it. just add a bunch of images of the character you want. the ai will learn the character. you make a separate lora for artist styles.

>>106237258
imo if you're not a MIT grad or a researcher at stanford you shouldnt even be allowed to post here

>>106237154
>What is that?
Lazy plumbing. That's the water feed.

>>106236444
Such a hard worker, waifu material for sure!

With the lightning lora for wan 2.2 should I go with more steps or bigger resolution for a clearer image? I want that shit crisp.
As crisp as it can get on my shitty ass setup, anyway.

>>106236953
model? if qwen or wan could you share workflow via catbox

>>106237557
everything about that image screams 'illustrious slop mix'

what is the speed difference between a 24gb and a 16gb gpu when it comes to genning videos?
is it really worth it?

Anyone have any idea what lodestone is doing that he's constantly updating the Chroma experimental repo?

>>106237545
use an explicitly supported resolution like 1280x720, cranking it higher will reduce quality then break it. If you want to upscale from there you need an upscale workflow.

More steps is better but with diminishing returns. 4 steps is trash and doesn't work, 6 is mostly fine but I would only use it when you're sitting there waiting on gens and need to go faster to test prompts. Sometimes I get bad results unless I crank it up to 8. I haven't had experience comparing 8 and 10, but if you're leaving it on overnight or when you go to work go ahead and crank it up some.

WAN feels like its treating muddy skin the same as camouflage

>>106237545
bigger resolution. no point going past 8 or 10 steps. to the point where you should consider Q6 if you want even higher resolution

>>106237631
a 5070 12gb will generate videos faster than a 4060ti 16gb if everything fits into memory

buy a 5070ti. if you want to go up from that you buy a 4090 or 5090.

>>106237640
v51 is happening apparently as of what discussed on Discord
He will be training on mixed resolutions

>>106237154
why is no one talking about this weird thing

>>106237687
>more autistic tinkering

>>106237648
>>106237651
>Conflicting information
I'm dying.

>>106237698
The pajeets are asleep, once they wake up they will start trying to solve this mystery

>>106237736
its not conflicting. what he said is right. if you're at 720p and still getting not crisp enough then it's time to freeze yourself and wake up 3 years in the future

>>106237698
It's a monocular. You hold it up to your eye and look through it.

>>106237699
>more autistic tinkering
if tinkering isnt part of your goon what are you even doing in this hobby

>>106237631
>>106237651
Get a 4090D if you're going for a regular 4090 or 5090. Gives you 48GB and decent speed plus its similar pricing.

>>106237782
where do you buy 4090Ds anyway? Are there US distributors? I dont really want to drop big cash on alibaba or something

>>106237687
>He will be training on mixed resolutions
That's great, I hope it works

>>106237797
>US
no. it's a hacked together chink card
https://www.c2-computer.com/products/new-parallel-nvidia-rtx-4090d-48gb-gddr6-256-bit-gpu-blower-edition

>>106237687
Here's to hoping he can unfuck whatever happened with v50.

>>106237813
jesus fuck that's expensive. the import alone would cripple the average ai user. for the money they want + shipping/handling for a 4090 i can get a 5090

>>106237782
I agree with this advice but good luck finding any used cards at reasonable prices, much less a 4090D

this is why I advise buying a 5070ti if you want to gen tomorrow, because you can reasonably find them at msrp instead of being an ebay gremlin for weeks

>>106237813
12 year old me would have found it so cool to be using a hacked chinese GPU to generate waifus
now that my age is multiple times that i realize its not cool at all and the only reason i need to do that is because of globohomo which again is quite uncool

i need more than 81 frames so bad

>>106236652
gen 8 images in a batch so you get 1 for free, what, dont tell me you are a vramlet?

>>106237906
how do you gen multiple images per batch in comfy easily without multiple noodles is there a node for it

>>106237018
i mean when you open the same workflows with 1 value changed they will just basically be overlayed and you will just see the number updated

>>106237884
4fps Lora gives you 20+ seconds. Interpolate the remaining 16 fps which is also extremely fast for start and end frames since you're only doing like 12 inbetween frames.

>>106237917
should have something like this in most workflows

I don't think prices are going to get higher because I don't think AI demand will go up from here. All these startups will fail and liquidate eventually even if the survivors go on strong. So why buy more than you need and fail at future proofing in seller's market instead of just waiting for the buyer's market. The only exception is if you can get MSRP or something. What can you even do in image/vid gen right now that requires 32GB over 24GB? 48GB is extremely rare for consumers so models aren't gong to be tuned to it right now.

>>106237648
8 steps as in 4+4 or 8 each?

>>106237942
is this plug-and-play? like if i request a preview from a sampler node I'll see a grid of all 4 previews at once? i guess with the time savings who cares

Just here to not gen and pronounce my appreciation for the collage again. bye

>>106237954
4+4

>>106237962
Now that you say it that would make more sense but no, you instead see the preview node switch between the generating images.

Yes, it's plug and play.

>>106237937
4fps lora? what.

>>106237952
>So why buy more than you need
correct. this is why I recommend getting the 5070ti if you want to gen right now and are going to buy a new card just for AI.

>>106237937
20 seconds of 4fps is just 5 seconds of 16fps though..
but thanks. guess i'll just wait for wan 3 and keep running the 81 frame gacha. i swear there's a 10 second workflow that's not half bad out there though

>>106237994
ok well batching isnt that great if i still need to look through them all afterwards but thanks i might look back into imagegen. i tried getting back into SDXL but idk if I can do it anymore it all looks like slop to me and super artistic anime style isn't relevant for my goon purposes

qwen quality is nice but holy damn is it DPO'd to shit.

Anyone know how you get dark scenes with dim light sources in wan? I can say "at night" and "candlight" and the sun is out in the window

>>106238018
If you make a motion lora at 4fps which is effectively 16fps of sped up footage, Wan is capable of generating 4fps clips which are effectively 4 times longer than base 16fps without losing coherence. It is a way to cheat into longer videos without needing a magic new architecture that magically has attention that goes 10 times longer which we all understand at best is a linear performance requirement but in reality is quadratic. 10x longer clip = 100x more memory and compute.

>>106237833
For a little extra for the 48GB its worth it alone, IMO, even some anons with 5090s are OOMing. Then again, I'm saving up for a rtx 6000 blackwell

>>106237837
Apparently the ones from the c2-computer site run pretty well (so I've heard through researching).

>>106237884
We will never have AGI, but who cares, this is better

>>106238094
If you're saving up for a RTX 6000 I'd just save money until actual GPU replacements come. I do not think in 5-10 years we're going to be using Nvidia graphics cards normally used for gaming to do AI inference and training.

>>106237833
>5090
Only 32GB of VRAM though.

kind of new to this, why can't I gen 1080x1920 and instead am forced to 1088x1920 on chroma, why is it a multiple a 16?

>>106238154
Patch size 2 and VAE scale 8

>>106238120
It's fast even when offloading parts to RAM.
As long as it's just RAM.

>>106238154
racist dogwhistle by the devs

>>106238119
I don't think people want to wait 5-10 years to play with AI

But yes, it seems logical that we will end up with some separate unit which is entirely dedicated to AI inference / training and has optimal performance for that task

>>106238189
>But yes, it seems logical that we will end up with some separate unit which is entirely dedicated to AI inference / training and has optimal performance for that task
People were saying that in 2022 already, I've yet to see anything done towards that.
GPUs are just too convenient as a full package.

>>106238119
those exist, its called the a100/h100. If you don't mean that it still doesn't matter because the high prices come from commercial use demand and I don't see why they would make a card thats only good FOR AI in a consumer use but not in a commercial use. Market seems small. With making gaming cards you benefit from economies of scale without being an attractive option for super compute. Also it's nice to be able to play games on my GPU that costs thousands of dollars.

>>106238189
If you're saving $10k for a GPU you're going to have a pile of useless hardware in 3 years. I can't imagine doing that kind of saving. Just get a 5090 and enjoy AI as it is because we're going to move very rapidly from GPUs to AI-accelerators because we're going to run from 32 GB to 128 GB in what will feel like a single hardware generation.

>>106235096
You are retarded. You should have to ask for bokeh or a professional photograph. If you don't then it's impossible to get rid of it. Hence, it is slop. Bokeh alone doesn't make it slop, unless you didn't ask for it. Putting it in the negatives in the models that are slopped doesn't work. The default should always be a realistic normal photo. The power you get out of it is that you can easily add bokeh or prompt for professional photos yourself. Even Chroma isn't always perfect at this, but background is almost always reasonably sharp and it doesn't make the assumption you always want bokeh in your image. If there is bokeh, it's never the very intrusive type unless you prompt for it, and it's overall a lot easier to not get it. An example, what happens with bokeh'd models is that you ask for a subject to be in a room, and you want an amateur photo, and if you ask for her soles then it's blurred (E.G. most API models, Qwen), and many parts of the room itself also blurred. These models assume you're using the model for entirely advertisement or SFW purposes, not for creating non-stock photos, which is mistaken.

>>106238154
Hardware performance benefits due to the way it calculates

Technically you can gen at 1080, but you will lose speed when it's not divisable by 64

I swapped to an external SSD and now loading models/first gen after switching is unbelievably slow. It was more or less instantaneous before this. Using ForgeUI. Any thoughts?

uhhh any models that can do puxel art?

After playing around with loras I have to say WAN kinda isn't great for anything relating to boobs, they always move statically and unnaturally. I went thru a ton of loras to try and improve it but it seems like an inherent thing the model just isn't great at
Meanwhile you do a kling 2.1 i2v and you can practically hear the tits slapping together

>>106238262
>using jeet loras trained on SDXL slop
you don't even know

>>106238094
>For a little extra for the 48GB its worth it alone, IMO, even some anons with 5090s are OOMing. Then again, I'm saving up for a rtx 6000 blackwell
Anon, get fast ram, and swap to it.
It's almost as fast as everything in VRAM, while costing 5 times less than the 6000.
Unless you train stuff, and in that case just rent the compute.
Don't buy a 6000, very bad investment unless you can recoup the money while using it or you're rich enough to not care.

>>106238175
Well it's still gonna be 2x-10x slower compared to VRAM and you can fit a lot of these models in 48GB, but not in 32GB.

kek

>>106238218
GPUs are gaming cards that happen to be very fast at the calculations necessary for AI, as long as it's all done inside said GPU.

Some other chip will likely emerge, made directly for AI workloads, with a instruction set optimized for it, which will beat gaming cards.

I never play games on my 3090, it's all AI 24/7, if I could have a dedicated 'box' which performs much better at the same price level, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

>>106238237
USB bandwith limits?

>>106238262
I use the torpedo tits lora and gen jogging on treadmills, works on my machine

>>106238119
>I do not think in 5-10 years we're going to be using Nvidia graphics cards normally used for gaming to do AI inference and training.
the big tech companies don't either. the future is NPUs. there's already NPUs in the latest CPUs helping with little stuff like blurring a background on a zoom call etc

>>106238189
I don't think people want to play with AI. the closest normalfags has ever gotten in that regard was the ghibli fad

>>106238262
the trick is to make the boobs so huge your brain doesnt care about reality anymore
and if you're not making the boobs that huge just talk to women
the boobs at the park are free and the same size as wan boobs without a lora anyways

>>106238245
No

what are chroma annealed and flash heun for

>>106237884
kijai's workflow with 2.1 loras works well

>>106238337
>chroma annealed
Autism, ignore it
>flash heun
10 step version / "turbo" version

>>106238287
>Well it's still gonna be 2x-10x slower compared to VRAM
No, my tests using block swapping show at most 10s lost for a 300s gen in PCI Express 4 8x (not even best case) + DDR4 3600 (again slower than DDR5).

>>106238339
i tried increasing the frames to 109 with that workflow and i got burn in at the beginning as usual. doesn't seem to have had any changes or improvements unlike people claim. i'd love to see a gen/output/catbox disproving me though

>>106238325
I dunno man I feed it images of big naturals to i2v and it just can't do it. I tried every lora under the sun

>>106238278
are you suggesting I make my own or are there better resources than civitai? I guess it might be time to look into how to train em

>>106238354
is this because we're capped by GPU compute speed or something?

how many 5s videos to train typical wan i2v lora?

>>106238119
>>106238280
If that's the case then my blackwell will simply go into my "shit" backup computer, kek

>>106238328
>the closest normalfags has ever gotten in that regard was the ghibli fad
That was over in 3 days

Most people will encounter AI through X or 'web search' which is no longer web search but AI results

>>106238417
about tree fiddy

>>106238400
no, its because the slowdown only happens when active inference needs things that are not in vram.

>>106238354
>>106238400
Maybe the memory management code is sophistacted enough that the majority of the computation still happens in VRAM so it only incurs relatively small slowdowns? But that's still relying on code that nobody here knows how to write, it'd be better to just have more VRAM.

>>106238417
i used 20 and got great results, but i trained on high resolution and all 81 frames (not skipping any) on two rented H200 in parallel for both low and high noise. kinda overkill.
cost way too much fucking money, like 50 dollars in compute for one lora lel

>>106238491
just because you don't understand blockswapping and offloading doesn't mean the rest of us are retards.

>>106238506
Let's be real.

>>106238328
>the closest normalfags has ever gotten in that regard was the ghibli fad
I did see statistics that said 90% of that is india

Are OneTrainer and Kohya even still being developed?

>>106238582
idk about onetrainer but kohya seems to be focusing on musubi trainer at the moment

>>106238395
Yes, make your own, all the current LoRA makers are slopped shit by retards. I will tell you 100% that Wan trained on your own clips will be the same quality as those clips.

>wan
>qwen
>chroma
none of these will matter when pony 7 comes out

>>106238639
>pony 7
what if i dont want to generate anime horse porn?

>>106238639
what if I want realism

I'm sorry chroma anons, but qwen is simply too good for doing reflection. I guess this can only be done with the help of LLM.

>>106237884
i do 141 with wan 2.2. did the same for wan 2.1. there is some looping but its not bad and you can use it to your advantage. like a girl turning around shaking her butt hen returning to her start position. you can usually get 7 or 8 seconds of good footage

>>106238354
>>106238400
>>106238491
I'm not sure why it's repeated that vram -> ram is hyperslow. I've tested both my 5090 and 3090 because I was almost tempted by the "more vram" argument and getting a 6000 blackwell card to get hyper fast wan gens, but my tests are cut and dry, it's not worth it at all.
Just redid it with my 5090, 8steps 81 frames wan 720p:
0 block swapped: Prompt executed in 301.33 seconds
40 blocks swapped: Prompt executed in 331.33 seconds

I'd rather get a second 5090 for double the compute.

>>106238234
>divisable by 64
ok thanks

>>106238668
>>106238675
i know what you want better than you do

>>106238582
OneTrainer is getting Chroma training support which is being implemented right now, sounded like the guy doing it wants to add Qwen as well.

Onetrainer kinda blows as a GUI. Anyone who's used it knows what I mean.

>>106238690
>ldg cafe
>only patron is a 12 year old girl
Accurate

>>106238754
i don't know what onetrainer uses as the trigger word and at this point i no longer even care

>>106238754
Yes, it worked fine when it was just SD1.5 and SDXL, now it's become a huge mess as it supports more and more models.

Still a great trainer, and very efficient with the best (as in fastest) vram offloading of all trainers I've used.

>>106238698
Because in theory RAM is way slower. But apperantly in practice with efficient memory management it's not so bad.

>>106238679
https://voca.ro/1bBPlAlF5avI

>>106238858
>what onetrainer uses as the trigger word
???

>>106238754
It's retarded that it makes you change like three different fields if you don't want your shit saving in (or overwriting) a previous session's workspace
Also the built in taggers are absolute shit
That's all beside how unresponsive the UI is (for example it no longer reads input from the scroll wheel for some reason)

>checking if I should update to latest comfyui
>opens issues
why are people so fucking retarded

are any of the anime lumina2 tunes good yet

>>106239018
For how technical it is, this hobby somehow manages to attract an enormous amount of retards with zero technical knowledge. Sometimes even lacking basic computer use skills. Open the issues section on any project in this space and 95%+ of it is blatant user error.

>>106239229
millennials were the first and last generation that actually knew how to use a computer. no, your cobol grandpa with alzheimers doesn't know shit, and everyone younger is 100% niggercattle.

>>106239229
it's indians

>>106236099

Stick to v48 for now. V50 might be easier to prompt for if we ever get documentation, but right now the 1024 training slopped old prompts.

>>106238308
>Some other chip will likely emerge, made directly for AI workloads, with a instruction set optimized for it, which will beat gaming cards.
No, you're missing the fact that GPUs are used by 3D modellers (blender, etc) and visual effects artists. AI is starting to do things like convert images to 3D models and it'll probably do 3D animations soon.

3D modelling is the glue that connects together gaming and AI work usage. So with that in mind, an all-in-one gaming GPU is still ideal.

>>106238120
Can you do this same one again but without it shifting to the other guy.

>>106239287
>>106239229
this is the average AI user on civitai and huggingface: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image/discussions/53#689870b61112b44fe226dc27

absolute sub room temperature IQ

Could someone share a Qween image wrokflow via catbox so I drag and download models and nodes without reading a manual?
I want to goon, no think.

Can I use the lightx2 workflow from 2.1 guide with a 1.3b model just by swapping it in there?

>>106239378
Just start with the official comfy workflow and go from there

https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/image/qwen/qwen-image

>>106239283
I once had to train a new hire who didn't know how to use a mouse and keyboard, I thought they were joking but no they had only used phones and the touchpad on their laptop

KIJAI WHAT IS THIS ALSO GET SOME SLEEP MAN

https://huggingface.co/Kijai/WanVideo_comfy/tree/main/Stand-In

Why do people say resolutions need to be a multiple of 64? I swear this shit is a PLACEBO MYTH. You only think it's important because someone else said it was important.

>Matrix-Game 2.0:
An Open-Source, Real-Time, and Streaming
Interactive World Model
https://matrix-game-v2.github.io/

>A single inference with 65 frames of video requires around 80GB of GPU memory, so an A100/H100 (80GB) graphics card is needed.

>>106239451
>11pm
>sleep
cmon now

>>106239507
It's important if you want maximum performance when genning

>>106239512
Google 100% has chinese spies in their ranks who feed all the algorithmic secrets to china to get us this open source shit so quickly!

Any recommended lora loader, ideally that would have templates so I can just load them instead of searching every time?

>>106239451
>Stand-In
What is that?

>>106239531
Let me guess: that performance is determined by rounding up the resolution to the nearest 64. So if instead of using a 64-multiple resolution like 1344x768, I instead generated at 1345x768, it would actually take as long as 1408x768. Did I get that right?

1032960 total pixels vs 1081344 total pixels. So it would be 4% faster?

>>106239559
i think it's this?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2508.07901

>>106239597
Instead of bitching, just fucking benchmark it yourself, how retarded are you ?

>>106239559
Dunno, I couldnt find anything on it

>>106239629
well we're having a conversation here. But I got my answer from you (not a fucking clue).

I think it's pretty obvious that would have to be the "performance gain". Because there's nothing else it could be. So I don't have to benchmark it, dumbass.

>>106239512
woah
>80GB of GPU memory, so an A100/H100 (80GB) graphics card is needed.
haha... yeah...

>>106239660
i assume its not quanted as usual

>>106239512
If we can do something almost as good as this home, it would be awesome.

https://xcancel.com/RuiHuang_art/status/1954716703340048877

>>106239698
>>106239698
>>106239698
>>106239698

>>106239647
Entire GPU pipeline is built around resolutions divisable by 64, all AI model training is done on resolutions divisable by 64, CUDA is optimized for resolutions divisable by 64, people making trainers only support resolutions divisable by 64, people making inference programs say that for best performance, use resolutions divisable by 64

Some jackass on /g/
>Achtually I don't think it's better, I won't benchmark, I will only sit and bitch and claim it's a conversation

>>106238625
I'm gonna go give it a shot then, wish me luck. New to comfy and never trained anything

>>106239717
Retard I already said it's 4% faster. You can't read.

>>106239743
You haven't benchmarked shit, you just pulled a number out of your ass

>>106239730
Use diffusion-pipe, multiple overlapping, 40 frames, use JoyCaption to write the caption for the first frame of the video clip. 50 clips with 80 frames.

>>106239767
Thanks anon I'll post results once i get anywhere

>>106237227
>>106237227
ai still can't draw hands