Thread 106244076

Once you master it, you'll never need, or want, anything else.

>>106244076 (OP)
use case?

>>106244076 (OP)
Can it run my cracked Photoshop CS6, play my games or run any other windows software seamlessly?

>>106244103
obsessing memorizing the command line options for a bunch of shitty userland freetard software that won't be used by almost anyone in 5-15 years

>>106244103
>>106244104
Yes, it can do anything. It is omnipotent. You just have to make it do it.

>>106244112
>Gentoo Linux was officially released on March 31, 2002. However, its initial version, known as Enoch Linux, was created in December 1999. Wikipedia
uh huh

Been using the same installation for about a decade now and it just werks.

>>106244076 (OP)
Install lfs

ok sell me, what's so special about gentoo?

>>106244804
- stable and rolling release at the same time
- mix and math stable/unstable packages
- partial updates
- granular package feature selection
- easy to add patches to packages
- can build everything optimised for your specific cpu
- choose-your-own init/libc/etc
put simply it offers enough choice that you can make it suit almost any specific setup you prefer. rather than picking a distro similar to what you want and just putting up with the parts you don't, gentoo can be set up to just be exactly what you want and nothing else

>>106244076 (OP)
I feel that way with arch, I got sick of compiling.

>>106244076 (OP)
OP here, sorry, I used the wrong image

>>106245278
gentoo is rather influenced by freebsd, like portage is basically bsd ports but for linux (from what i hear, i haven't spent much time with freebsd)

>>106244076 (OP)
How many years do I have to sink in it in order to master it?

>>106245386
Like, 2 weeks, maybe less if you read the manual.

>>106244869
maybe gentooo is the linux endgame afterall.

>>106244869
You forgot
>downgrading is trivial
>custom ebuilds are supported by portage directly instead of requiring whatever archniggers do
>guru repo is in general way better than any other custom repo on any other distro

>>106244076 (OP)
I've spend the last three years using Arch daily and I was not really happy about it. After realizing that in a X11 system I would not be able to use mesa without installing Wayland I took the Gentoo pill, generic packages are garbage and you should build everything from source. Now I have -wayland in my USE flags and mesa builds without issues.
Gentoo is not really hard, you just have to understand how package management works there, portage is a very elegant solution for the "source based" question. It gives you an insane level of flexibility and control over the system, OpenRC is much smaller and nicer than systemd, and everything is rock solid, Arch always felt like a hobbyist project, while Gentoo feels "production grade", Bluetooth problems I had in Arch (probably related to the Kernel) doesn't exist in Gentoo, the information in the Gentoo handbook is very precise and usually things just work. I've always been in search of a distro like this where you can basically do "anything" and yet keep your environment flexible and small, in all those years it's the first time I felt true satisfaction when dealing with a Linux environment.

it's time to step down old man

>>106246297
unmaintained garbage

>>106245967
>After realizing that in a X11 system I would not be able to use mesa without installing Wayland
What the fuck. Seriously?

>X package requires python package v1.0
>Y package requires python package v2.0
>python package doesn't have slots
there you go your fucked, gentoo is the epitome of tinketroon garbage and is 100% deprecated by CachyOS.

>>python package doesn't have slots
but it does, buy an ad

>>106246479
arch isn't a minimalist distro like some say. i'm not sure if they even officially call themselves that. officially they refer to themselves with "KISS", meaning "keep it simple, stupid". arch aims to be simple, what this means practically is that packages are typically configured with most things enabled, to suit the most usecases/people. this is the opposite of minimalist.
if a package supports wayland, it'll be built with wayland support in arch, because some users use it.

>>106246549
even if you're a wayland cocksucker, you still lose with arch, because each package will be built with x11 support too, it's just a shit normalfaggot distro

>compiling after every menial change on the system
Sounds great, but I have stuff to do on my machine

>>106246611
You can do it while it's compiling, unless you're a corelet.

>>106244131
and literally no one uses it

>>106246634
i'm not sure if likening yourself to an average person is really doing you any favours

>>106246644
>person
Did you mean humanoid?

>>106244076 (OP)
It's a choice, but there's nothing to master, really. You'll learn how a Linux OS is constructed, but you'll get about the same experience as any other distro. Except everything takes two days to install.

squeak

>>106246669
you know gentoo isn't a DE, right? like you can use xfce in gentoo

>>106246680
yes, i know. don't mind me, i'm just doing my daily dose of squeaking

>>106246659
my first install of gentoo took 3 hours. and this was to an xfce desktop with firefox.
this was in 2011, so it's not something to use as a comparison, not that you really can anyway since it greatly depends on hardware. i wasn't using high end hardware at that time to be fair, i was running an athlon x2 7750be (2008) with 3GiB of ram (yes, 3.. it was an awkward time)

>>106246680
he just wants to post squeak. he's harmless.

>>106246705
fair enough. i don't use xfce right now, but i did use it for years

>>106244103
Filtering archfags.

>>106246524
not python itself but a python package, eg python-slugify or some other shit. package a requires python-slugify 1.0 and package b requires python-slugify 2.0, if python-slugify isn't slotted your fucked.

>>106246815
so, which package needs this?

is systemd support finally usable? i want to switch but i don't want to lose my systemd.

>>106246854
I don't remember but I encountered the issue, also gentoo is low on maintainers so a lot of package are very slow to get updates, lots of stuff is not in the repos and overlays are a mess and filled with out of date packages and broken stuff. It's literally a tinketroon distro that serves no purpose.

>>106244076 (OP)
Deprecated by nixos.

>>106246644
>that won't be used by almost anyone in 5-15 years

was the post you took issue with, and then proceeded to prove him right

you're on the wrong side of the bell curve lil bro

>>106247019
I also don't remember things that never happen.

>>106247138
i didn't respond to that post

>>106247240
then your post is even more nonsensical

>>106246978
i use it with systemd, it's perfectly fine

>>106246479
Yes, that's what motivated me to change.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=216166

>>106246611
I can work normally with 4/5 of my cores compiling a large package. If that's not the case for you, it's easy to put Portage in low priority or limit the amounts of cores it can use.

>>106246705
>admitting to spamming

nah

>>106246714
>it was an awkward time
no it wasn't, it was sane. Somehow the world has been memed into only ever doubling ram. This was never a condition. These days it's either 16 or 32, you can have 18 ram just fine, the device will work, hell you can have 19.2 GB of ram if you wanted and it should be fine. The stupid meme of doubling ram is nothing but a corpo scam that the world fell into.

>>106247794
i meant less of an awkward time in history and more an awkward time in my life. 3GiB of ram was fine in 2011, not amazing but fine. and sure, power-of-two ram sizes were... well they were always standard lets not bullshit, but they were never required

wrong image, every 'innovation' is sloppification

>>106247859
>just install all bloat there ever is
ok tranny

>>106244076 (OP)
oops, doesnt run league of legends

>>106248000
seek mental help before your father brings a shotgun and fixes his mistake by himself

>>106248000
this is a positive

>>106244804
It's what people who haven't used Arch think Arch is. And it MOGS it hard.

>>106247676
That one is inferior to Windows