Thread 106245881

>EU Chat Control
>mandatory age verification
>VPN bans
>encryption bans
>digital ID
The frog is boiling. The West is clamping down on online anonymity to suppress economic and social dissent. Everything you do online will be scanned and logged by Palantir. The whole ecosystem is under threat, from Wikipedia to the ability to sideload apps. As someone who does not want to become a totally offline hermit or stop posting comments critical of the government, I want to know how you are adapting your habits to this new atmosphere of total surveillance.

>>106245881 (OP)
>I want to know how you are adapting your habits to this new atmosphere of total surveillance.
You can't. Why do you think they're going all in on this? They're finally going to win.

>>106245892
Just throw out your smartphone lol

>>106245907
Most people need their smartphone for their jobs.

honestly considering killing myself. I warned people for years this was coming, and there isn't even a thread about it on /pol/ its like no one cares or they already gave up. I AM NOT living under that system you can go fuck yourself, I will personally destroy the internets infrastructure with a sledgehammer if things get any worse than this. oh thats a crime? then what do you call what they're doing?

they got one thing right, this will cause civil wars.

>>106245925
Not my problem. Wagecucks were slaving before the smartphone.

>>106245881 (OP)
This isn't the UK, still each countries' internet provider will decide to ban a site or not (like with pirate sites), and you simply can't ban every porn sites. Also there's VPN, tor and other stuff. I will still fight this regardless.

we're gonna have to finally switch to mesh networks at this rate

>>106245881 (OP)
>EU Chat Control
>mandatory age verification
>VPN bans
>encryption bans
>digital ID
Funny how it is Apple and Microsoft manipulating laws in the background. We can thank Windows, macOS and Brave users for all of this.

>>106245925
If people complain they'll have to fix that

Sure is a lot of doomfear "it's hopeless" mongering

webdev's dead, baby

A new Renaissance in local desktop apps is coming. No small operator whill be able to meet regulatory requirements due to cost.

>>106245881 (OP)
> Wikipedia is under threat
Gee, what a pity

>>106245881 (OP)
Noticed, but there are always workarounds.

>>106245881 (OP)
Just take the pic bro

>>106246226
Retard. Wikipedia has its problems but there is no better general knowledge resource on the internet. If it goes down, the narrative will be even more tightly controlled by the establishment.

>>106246218
Sorry no known apps allowed anymore

Oh no..

>>106245881 (OP)
I'm building guillotines. "aux grands maux les grands remèdes"

>>106245881 (OP)
>I want to know how you are adapting your habits to this new atmosphere of total surveillance.
I continue as usual. The whole point of all this bullshit is the chilling effect. A simple solution is to just... ignore all this nonsense, since it's not actually illegal.
>but i am an effete cuck stared of my gubmint
sucks to be a doormat

>>106246173
then do something faggot
old 4chan would have already blown up a van and disabled their AI digital ID system while jacking off as a flex.

>>106245881 (OP)
The children must be protected at all cost. The sight of one vagina could create tens of thousands of future deviant criminals.

>>106246379
You'll change your mind when you are arrested for calling a fat woman fat.

>>106246218
Nah, it's easier to just region block the EU and the UK

>>106246391
>The children must be protected at all cost.
That's why we must rope all politicians and billionaires.

>>106246412
It's coming for America too.

nothing will happen, most people are retarded and will happily be surveilled. But if this shit was to cause the end of the internet it would be good for everyone. Gen Alpha faggots might be too young to remember what life was like before social media, but it was genuinely better.

>>106245881 (OP)
>encryption bans
Encryption is just math, how the fuck do you ban math

>>106246438
ChatControl or digital IDs are not planned for America for now, and the age verification thing is for certain states only. It is bad, but still far from what the EU is getting.

>>106246459
There's literal math out there you aren't allowed to use without paying royalties because called dibs on it first. It's not a far jump from there.

>>106246537
It's only certain states until it isn't. The Supreme Court has already upheld it. The last Trump administration tried to go after end-to-end encryption. How long do you think until they go after it successfully?

>>106246459
They can't stop you from encrypting your own messages using PGP. But they can
>force Signal to cooperate by installing a backdoor or shut down
>threaten you with a criminal conviction for using PGP
How many of your friends are willing to use PGP anon?

>>106247279
It fucking sucks no one uses pgp

>>106246537
>for certain states only
That's how it always begins. Remember gay marriage? Yeah, that was for certain states only too until it went federal.

>>106247219
I'm sure they will try to erode your privacy. Anyone with more than half a brain cell saw it coming when conservacucks got elected.
However, the US is literally the least of my worries because for one, I don't live there, and two, it is still one of the extremely few countries on earth where people theoretically have some rights, while rights are not a thing in the EU, not even on paper.
>>106247329
That one gave people more rights though.

>>106245881 (OP)
There're quite a few stages between where chat control is now and it becoming a regulation. If it ever does pass, its probably going to be inundated with so much spam and abuse that it will become unusable. This is a typical result of political forcing.
>>106246037
Conscious organization with others would be much more effective than small, unconscious acts of dissent my friend.

>>106245881 (OP)
>>EU Chat Control
>>mandatory age verification
>>VPN bans
>>encryption bans
>>digital ID
+ the current attack on monero, which is actually an "economic demonstration". God, I fucking hate kikes and their "special military operations" and "peace making"

>>106247339
Homos are degenerates. Civil unions are fine and technically marriage should only be the religious as it's a religious ceremony. Everyone else should have a civil union. The only reason marriage is for everyone is so the government can get more money.

how is this even legal? I from eu and in my county even banks cant scan your ID. And now some random site (formally known as twitter) want photo of my ID?

>>106247495
>how is this even legal?
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>106245881 (OP)
What have all your comments achieved so far? Has your criticism of the government made any difference whatsoever?

>>106245881 (OP)
They want you to go back to the 80s and 90s. It's already happening here. I have never seen so few people on their phones.
They also want to politicize people and plan to completely rebuild the EU.

>>106247279
Nobody including national authorities give a flying fuck about EU regulations

>>106246459
You dont and they are completely powerless

>>106245881 (OP)
>encryption bans
Impossible, you can't ban math.

>>106245907
How are you going to use social media and call people then???

>>106247848
You could always use Lorawan and nobody needs SM. Let that shit be a thing of the past already, people used to go to pubs for social media like trash talk

>>106245925
Including the government employees, all the way up to the politicians making these decisions themselves need their phones for work all day.

>>106246281
this

Despite doomers here fearmongering like retards, there's no, "let's help Wikipedia," or whatever else can help the situation. They just want to bitch and bitch on here with their thumbs up their butts like stupid little Karens instead of at least taking it to Normiebook.

>>106245881 (OP)
>You can't watch porn online without age verification!
>But, you can see porn generated ofline with AI.
I see they're still fighting the last war.

>>106248032
>there's no, "let's help Wikipedia,"
wikipedia is all glowies, why would anyone help them?

>>106248067
So "glowie" is just a synonym for "thing I don't like" now?

>>106248067
1) I wrote wiki articles back during university, I am not a glowie though

2) Glowies do not willingly expose historical glowie operations

=> wikipedia is not all glowies.

>>106245881 (OP)

just call your politician and tell him you dont want this.. because they think you want this so they push it forward

>>EU Chat Control
>>mandatory age verification
>>VPN bans
>>encryption bans
>>digital ID

>>106247845
>Impossible, you can't ban math.
Read the fucking thread, this has already been answered here >>106247279
>They can't stop you from encrypting your own messages using PGP. But they can
>force Signal to cooperate by installing a backdoor or shut down
>threaten you with a criminal conviction for using PGP
>How many of your friends use PGP anon?

>>106248305
Who are "they"?

>>106246037
there's no pol thread because nobody except feds and jeets can even start threads on /pol/ anymore. if you make a thread and it takes off it autosages. if the shills find it first they talk to themselves for the first 20 replies and steer your thread off topic. and that's if the janny doesn't delete it and ban you on the spot.
i'm sure there's a lot of people sick of this shit but this isn't the place to try to have productive meaningful conversations. there are armies of jeets and llm's and a bunch of feds making sure we can't have threads like those anymore.
hey did you see the white woman's ass in jeans?

>>106245881 (OP)
Oh, what will I ever do if they shut down the internet's anonymous containment board?
Guess I'll just have to play minecraft all day long.

'>>106248278
>just call your politician and tell him you dont want this.. because they think you want this so they push it forward
You are incredibly naive if you think the politicians give a shit about your opinion. They are not pushing these laws out of stupidity or because they think it's what the public wants. It is a very deliberate and cynical strategy to control freedom of information and expression, because they are going to use economic and social crises to intensify exploitation of the poor and working class, and are pre-emptively arming themselves with new laws to help crush dissent. We need to get organised on the streets and in our workplaces, in the real world. The only language politicians understand is strike action.

>>106248210
editing wikipedia won't do shit look into how they're funded and who the top editors are hint they look like rabbis.

>>106248356
obviously I am talking about governments

>>106246037
/pol/ is filled by retarded christcuck boomers that only connect it with porn and cheer for mass surveillance.

>>106248278
You mean the same politicians that called everyone that protested article 13 bots? No, that ship has sailed and they got no one to blame but themselves. Sic semper tyranis.

>>106248406
Governments are made out of people. You will find that if you actively participate in a system, you can change things as well.

Laws most rarely stay stable over long periods of time

>>106247817
The EU isn't the only entity trying to ban end-to-end encryption. Australia is pushing it, the US will eventually come for it too.
https://reason.com/2023/05/05/the-fbis-anti-encryption-campaign/

>>106245881 (OP)
Regular people are much more cunning and determined than central systems.

Remember, they already tried this AND FAILED with covid dissent lockdown. Not even five years ago. They even had a ton of public and corporate support for that attempt, and they don't have that support anymore. In fact, alternate mediums are now well-established, and they've been battle-hardened from years of the strongest possible attempts by government to shut them down. Even the same all-aspect attack from a couple years ago would fail much more quickly today because of the infrastructure and willpower of dissent networks.

In short: fuck you

>>106248545
In theory the chemical company I am working for has a shitload of EU regulations to adhere to. In reality, none of them are followed because most people are hostile towards EU regulations. We have our own laws and the EU is there to milk money from. Accordingly, I am not concerned whatsoever.

>>106246379
>Ignore the erosion of the 1st and 9th amendments.

Would the Chat Control affect chatting with LLMs?

>>106248749
If it's through a network sure. If it's on a local device, it's not even encrypted in the first place so who cares.

>>106248664
They're getting funding for massive surveillance systems. It's likely the whole COVID fiasco, which was a multifaceted opportunity to test top down control, showed that it was not possible for complete control, so now they need new systems like palantir to grab dissenters when they implement the banning of wrongthink again.

>>106248782
It's unlikely they have the resources to implement "good" mass surveillance at this stage. For example, if you want to triangulate a phone, you need at least 3 towers nearby.
However, just having them isn't nearly enough, you need to maintain them, you need suppliers for maintenance parts, you need people installing those parts. Surveillance is massively expensive and then we have the ongoing war with Russia which also allocates (rightfully so) a lot of resources.

You also need people evaluating the data.

You might think you can offload that to AI, but maintaining a datacenter is no easy feat either and assuring water supply and electricity to such locations can't be assured

Europe in particular is an aging society and the imported population is of no help economically.

It's a >ENORMOUS< effort to maintain efficient surveillance with an aging society

>>106247908
>Including the government employees
Pretty sure they still use dumb phones like Blackberries to avoid private data from getting leaked.

>>106248782
They've been planning this shit for decades, they know that the population in various countries are close to rebellion for a variety of issues like the economy and migration problems. Competing factions with violence capacity like drug cartels have been a major problem since the mid-20th century. New terrorist organisations and random lone wolves show up all the time. The old type lone wolf used to shoot up schools and then blow their brains out, now they're killing CEOs and taking shots at the president with people cheering. Things are escalating.

>>106246218
These boomers don’t understand technology. You can just do the most bare bones “security” like that tea app and just go “well, it’s out of my hands” when shit inevitably gets leaked.

>>106248278
Just searched up who my representative was and he’s been funded by the AIPAC since forever. I don’t think he’ll care about any phone calls I give him but maybe some other anons will have better luck? It’s time to take action people!

>>106248782
>new systems like palantir
You seem to have conveniently forgotten EDWARD SNOWDEN and NSA WIRETAPPING. That was over a decade ago. The only change in 10 years is that regular people built a network of dissent that has successfully won over the public making everyone skeptical. In ten years of effort they couldn't even put Alex Jones in jail... the biggest dissenting voice out there... do you really think "increased monitoring" (same amount of monitoring) is going to change anything??

>>106245881 (OP)
>The frog is boiling
This means doing something slowly over a long period of time so people don't realize what's happening. The frog isn't boiling. They just dropped the frog into a pot at a full rolling boil, but no one cares anyways.

>>106247487
is it still happening? the qubic shit has apierror and 0% hashrate.

i fucking forgot to exchange it for btc the last two months it was 300-400. im honestly thinking of killing myself i lost so much just cause i was not using my electronics for the last two months

>>106245881 (OP)
Supress economic and social dissent. They can ban me but then ill just talk about how much i hate jews and the taxman (same thing to the initiated) in public. Everything i own is backed up on disc. None of their bullshit matters to me.

>>106247848
>Call people
Dumb phone
>Social media
Never had any.

>>106245881 (OP)
the internet sucks anyway

no don frog the boyle
he's mah fren

>>106246537
Fucking LOL nobody tell him.

>>106245881 (OP)
They were only going after the loli and incest games they said...

>>106245881 (OP)
Chat control will never be a thing because its unenforceable. VPNs and encryption are something that can never be truly banned. Age verification is something that can be easily bypassed on most websites. Sure, the reality that we live in is not perfect but we all have to cope with that. All somewhat tech-literate people know it already, but for some reason you /pol/tards refuse to listen to people here who are even remotely knowledgeable on the topic and spam /g/ with your shitty, demoralizing threads that quickly turn into discussion about identity politics and shitflinging. Can you guys just leave your basement and get real, or at the very lest educate yourself instead of getting more and more depressed while being terminally online leaking clittycels?

>>106247493
Ok christcuck

>>106246037
nigga /pol/ is just social rejects who want to be contrarians. they're only right wing because it's the group that accepted them. they have zero legitimate convictions

>>106250448
>VPNs [...] can never be truly banned
Sites which want to ban VPNs are successful enough at doing so. And most legit sites obviously want to ban VPNs because they don't want legal trouble, and they want ad revenue.
You can't post on 4chan formerly 4channel from VPNs, and you sure as hell ain't signing up for an account on basically any big social media site from a VPN.

>>106246037
>there isn't even a thread about it on /pol/
So you're surprised a place where people agree with this shit isn't speaking out against it?

>>106250522
>Sites which want to ban VPNs are successful enough at doing so
ISP's themself can't do much about them, so saying about "VPN bans" seems like exaggeration, but yes, they are mid for evasion/bypassing geoblocks. For that you would have to use residential proxy, which is pretty much guaranteed to work.
>You can't post on 4chan formerly 4channel from VPNs, and you sure as hell ain't signing up for an account on basically any big social media site from a VPN.
But you can still post from residential proxies just fine, as there is no decent way to figure out if the IP in question is normal user or residential proxy. I use them often both for scraping and regular posting just fine.

>>106247845
>Impossible, you can't ban math.
Depends on how far they go, but if they are willing to go a bit totalitarian, it wouldn't be that difficult. Actively monitor all internet traffic and start busting people who still encrypt their communication, put out propaganda that only criminals use encryption because they have something to hid. Throw in something about protecting children and voila, using encrypted communication on the open internet is suddenly pretty much impossible.

>>106248858
>you need to maintain them, you need suppliers for maintenance parts, you need people installing those parts
All this shit is quite literally done by the cellphone company and consumers will pay for all of it. People today will quite literally buy products with unironic audio bugs and connect them to the network. Modern cars have a bazillion fucking tracking features. It's all marketed as cool features and services. All you need to do is collect the data and store it in some form. Like you don't need to literally record every phone call but you can have Google constantly transcribe all the audio at both ends and then send those to some server and if someone asks if you're wiretapping everything you can say you're just collecting metadata

>>106246037
>and there isn't even a thread about it on /pol/ its like no one cares or they already gave up.
Sorry to break it down for you but most people who frequently post on /pol/ are terminally online clittycels who just waste their time on getting depressed online. Unironically leave your basement and touch some grass. It will be a great start for you to un-rot your brain. Like, you guys are not even trying. Most of you outright refuse to become more tech-literate in order to actually know how to bypass those restrictions, so you just keep crying and making threads like this one on /g/. Why are you like that?
>>106250503
This, so much this.

>>106246037
>there isn't even a thread about it on /pol/ its like no one cares or they already gave up
/pol/ is mostly brown jeets, boomers and bots nowadays. Hell, most of the site in general are bots. This is by design, 4chan's traffic has been on sharp decline and according to the leaks the mods encourage LLM posting to facilitate the illusion of organic posters.

>>106250576
Governments and ISPs may start taking some very basic measures against VPN companies (I could see this happening in shitholes like the UK), but that's not going to be the biggest hurdle. At best it might stop some normies. A lot of these companies operate legally within the EU though, so time to start drafting another bill which breaks them.
The sites themselves will go after VPN traffic a lot sooner than ISPs, so that will make life hell for most people already.
I have no practical experience with residential proxies, so I have no idea how reliable they are and which ones are legit, but I know they are super expensive compared to anything else. I'm pretty sure their quality varies a lot too.

>>106247908
They're exempt from surveillance
https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/a-political-blackmail-the-eu-parliament-is-pressing-for-new-mandatory-scanning-of-your-private-chats

>>106250694
>Governments and ISPs may start taking some very basic measures against VPN companies
Some of them already do with DPI, yet anti-DPI software exists.
>The sites themselves will go after VPN traffic a lot sooner than ISPs
That why residential proxies exist, as there is no sure way of telling the difference between them and real users.
>I have no practical experience with residential proxies, so I have no idea how reliable they are and which ones are legit
I do and I am telling you that there are plenty of providers that work fine. I use proxy-cheap and you can buy new, unused static IP for like 10$. I used those to evade on 4chin when I made Jay's clitty leak very hard and got slapped with banhammer back in the day, although nowadays the gay (currently the kiwi) exists, so you can evade for free.
>but I know they are super expensive compared to anything else. I'm pretty sure their quality varies a lot too.
Well, they are slightly more expensive than VPNs on average, but they are worth their price. The thing is that they are too hard to use for normalniggers, therefore governments kinda achieve their goals by fighting anti-censorship measures on the surface level.

>>106250800
That site looks very cheap, I mean even cheaper than most VPNs. I wonder if it's suitable for actually creating and sing accounts on big sites like twitter without getting banned, and what you have to do to avoid getting banned in the future too. The modern internet is full of paranoia.
>new, unused static IP
There is no such thing, not with IPv4 anyway. So I suppose the IP you get may or may not be tainted. Depending on what the guy before you did.

Why is no one talking about what this will do to the Android ecosystem?

>The European Union is pushing ahead with a new age verification system aimed at keeping minors away from adult content, and it could bring significant consequences for Android users across the region. According to a recent report, the EU is planning to include an Android app integrity check in its upcoming white-label age verification app, and this check will rely entirely on Google's Play Integrity API.
>This means that, for an app to pass verification, it must be downloaded from the Google Play Store, licensed by Google, and installed on a device that passes certain security checks. Apps that are sideloaded, compiled from source, or installed from alternative app stores will not qualify.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/eus-upcoming-age-verification-system-may-block-sideloaded-android-apps_id172690

>>106245881 (OP)
Shilling this till I get at least 10 clearweb normies on board. Glowies eat ass and die.

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>>106251568
This article is confusing

>>106250448
>but for some reason you /pol/tards refuse to listen to people here who are even remotely knowledgeable on the topic
You should see the /pol/monkeys when they have an AI thread on /pol/. Retarded normies actually talking to the ChatGPT stock personality on their phone app and trying to figure out how to "break the conditioning" instead of using a 1 line jailbreak and telling it to be based.

>>106251589
What can I do on Haifanet?

>>106251138
it is, really. most of them look cheap because they are not made for normalniggers at the first place. and well, they literally have the word "cheap" in their domain. Pair this with disposable phone numbers that cost like 50 cents online and you should be fine.
>There is no such thing, not with IPv4 anyway.
by unused, I mean never used by their service before.

Mullvad still works for me.

>>106251658
I never got their logic. Like, why would they cry about internet regulations day and night when they could spend some time learning how to bypass those and just stop leaking from their clitties?

>>106246037
Same.
Being mocked for years especially on the normienet side but even here on 4chan.
Even without resorting to compare to Iran/China/Russia once. There are mods who ban members for hate speech/conspiracy on some websites for doing that comparison. Because this system is supposedly led by (((perfect))) people and the ruling structure must be held by small hats at all costs.
I guess most active communities which have mods are under some NGO paychecks even outside of anglosphere. The net atmosphere is as shitty as the real life, and both are rotting at a quick pace. These people just refuse to see.

>>106246037
>be me, ex leftypoltard
>check leftypol after a long time again
>thinking, they must be discussing the crackdown of the internet from a marxist perspective
>no one is talking about it

>>106250800
>clitty
Why do you talk like a fag?

>>106248858
>you need at least 3 towers nearby.
1999 called, they want their dumb nigger back. 1 is enough in many cases, especially with small cell/5G installations.

>>106245881 (OP)
No, they are going to force the common most widely used websites to do whatever it is they want. That does not stop foreign hosted websites in say, russia, china et al from doing whatever they want. They are not subject to these retarded draconian laws.

We will still be able to access those sites and use tunneling to get where we want. That said, this should still concern most people because its fucked and the government is retarded and full of luddites who don't understand technology.

>>106246037
>honestly considering killing myself
DO IT FAGGOT

>>106246037
>, I will personally destroy the internets infrastructure with a sledgehammer
I can see this happening. Sabotage acts amd and such.

>>106252348
Maybe... they never liked the Internet in the first place?

>>106247495
The EU seems to be planning to implement some form of zero-knowledge proof using encryption for proof of identity. Essentially giving you a signing key which is used to encrypt a challenge from the person wanting to verify your ID. All they know is that you signed it with a valid key, not which key it is, and it happens on device, so the government does know.

If they actually implement it like this I think it’ll be pretty much bulletproof and it’s basically the only good answer to digital ID, but the issue with politicians is that they lie constantly.

>>106248387
You over-estimate the knowledge of the average politician. Most of them aren’t that well versed in anything except politics itself, as career politicians. They’ve never worked a normal job, never dealt with the average persons shit. They’re too busy with stupid paperwork and meetings to ever find interest in the things the people they’re governing care about. It’s lobbyists and consultants who are pulling the strings, and if all the politicians ever hear is shit from lobbyists, is it any wonder they keep doing stupid shit? This sort of apathy that presupposes we’ve lost, will cause us to lose, whether it’s true or not.

Even if your representative is compromised, you should at least try. Worst case, they do nothing, best case, they learn something new they wouldn’t have before, and change their opinion on things.

>>106251589
is there something like this but chink proxies full of chinks?

>>106249338
>is it still happening?
no, but it doesnt matter. now retards can all go shout "but monero is le 51%" (40% for a few hours in reality). in other words, the glownigers and their useful idiots have a new propaganda point, just like when they claimed (and are still claiming) that chainanalaysis (or whetever the company is called) succefully traced monero -_-
>forgot to exchange it for btc the last two months it was 300-400
damn, that sucks

>>106245881 (OP)
They have been proposing that for decades but it's not even legal according to most European constitutions so it will literally never happen. Nothing ever happens.

>>106251589
but anon i like making my html website
can i make cool websites on hyphanet?

>>106256864
the ECHR has already ruled against weakening encryption, there is almost zero chance this actually ends up being enforced.
one really wonders why they are still trying again. who really benefits from this doomed attempt? is this just a way to put pressure on American software companies?
is this a way to showcase a large scale case use for AI (even an illegal one) to justify the massive public investments?

>>106246037
OK... but let's they finally have a cyber panopticon where they can feed all the data they already have, plus new data, into a LLM and ask it if they need to bust your balls or whatever, that's all fine, but are they going to have the manpower to go out and bust all those balls? I guess they need to cyber punish you, like you get flagged with something like the "this guy is a bad guy" flag (kind of like you're an antivaxxer) and then no shop or anything will sell to you and you get kicked out of your house and your bank freezes your account, then they send you a package and it's like a torture dildo with a message "stick this up your arse, kind regards, the government," so instead of going to prison you stick the torture dildo up your arse for like however long they want you to and it fucks with your DNA and makes your dick shivel or whatever, and when you've done your time you take it out and they re-enable your bank account and tell you don't do it again or the dildo will be three times thicker... maybe that's they shit they're going to pull on us.

>>106258123
leaders think that digitization can allow them to establish a dictatorship with minimal physical coercition and thus the without the need to manage and pay for a large militia and secret police. sooner or later they'll realise how wrong they are.

>>106246037
Take that anger and start organising custom hardware, custom software.
Don't fall for the open source trap.

Mass downloading everything I want and staying off the internet for a bit until there’s a workaround if it gets bad. The only downside is I call my family a lot on the phone and use whatsapp because they live in another country, not sure what to do about that, maybe there’s a good alternative.

>>106245925
if you need a smartphone to do your job and you don't work in tech, you need a new job.

>>106246160
Why fix the issue when you can simply suicide the complainer?
Life is cheap. Nobody is irreplaceable.

>>106246537
>boiling frog

>>106255152
As long it keeps the chink and indians at bay. I'm in.

>>106247493
>Homos are degenerates.
go back to /pol/
>Civil unions are fine and technically marriage should only be the religious as it's a religious ceremony
christkikes didn't invent marriage
>The only reason marriage is for everyone is so the government can get more money.
prior to same-sex marriage gay couples got fucked over constantly if their partner died because on paper they weren't next of kin.

>>106247495
>how is this even legal?
because think of the hekkin children or whatever

>>106247848
>social media
go outside and socialize in the real world
>and call people
phones exist for that very reason. you can have a phone that doesn't connect to the internet.

>>106257968
Let's see your website!

>>106251589
Why did they rename it?

>>106261000
they rewrote it in rust, and it got the original name while the old codebase had to be renamed

>>106246104
Only good & realistic post in this thread. I2p and similar, here we come.

It's pretty sad that despite all the technological advancements, at its core nothing ever changed. All humanity really is people subjugating and enslaving each other as much as possible, this time however is different thanks to the power our rulers have thanks to electronics, internet, AI and drones.

In some places people will play along "painless concentration camps" as Huxley put it, in others it will be cheaper to deal head on with the troublemakers.

>>106246037
Same actually. Freaky to see another person like this. Not to mention the use of all of that with ai and Palentir. It's over and honestly im praying China or someone does something to stop it once it all happens. Palentir specifically is a userbase of people all over the world, they were was used to kill Bin Laden.

>>106250448
you overestimate the intelligence of the average politician

>>106245881 (OP)
I'm going to throw a counter point out here.
This is very likely to backfired on them. The thinking is we'll lock it down and monitor everything. Okay but people know this, so they will now be more likely to talk in person about these topic since it seems the online catharsis is ending. So what will happen is real people will meet up in real places and discuss grievances instead of posting about it and then immediately jacking off. I think this will make their surveillance have bigger blindspots.
>>106252348
Pathetic post. Upload your ID or go outside. Its barely an issue.

>>106260613
Did you take your prep today faggot?

>>106262372
It's even worse than you think. The enslavement goes beyond what can be seen with the naked eye, and it doesn't stop even when you die.

>>106245881 (OP)
Sorry to be a defeatist but you're at least 10 years too late to be worried about the surveillance state breh

Why nobody on there plan to do a cyberattack? Seriously, where are yall when world needs you. I thought 4chan is capable of anything

>>106263494
4chan nowadays is not nearly as relevant as it used to be. Current /g/ is pretty much /pol/ with computers, since every other thread is full of identity politics, countrywars (or rather continent wars) and other obsessed faggotry.

>>106245892
That's just what they want you to think.

>>106265547
Exactly, they're pushing now because they're scared, but the situation has already spiraled out of control.