Thread 106253631

Why did Windows 10 get so much hate in 2015?

someone post the weather lady getting an offer to upgrade to windows 10

>>106253631 (OP)
It was Windows 8 with a subpar Windows 7 skin. I know a lot of people shill it now, and yes it's better than 8, 8.1 and 11... but it still sucked balls.

>>106253631 (OP)
Idk about the average normie. My grandma hated it because it made her laptop slower. After a month or so she was brainwashed enough to say "oh it was always this slow".
Personally I kinda enjoyed it.

Some people got tricked into updating for free from Win 7 or 8.1 and it fucked up their systems. Some claim they didn't authorize the upgrade but I don't believe them.
Most people I know liked it because they got rid of the tablet default of Win 8

>>106253631 (OP)
Because it fucked you up the ass with telemetry and you couldn't turn it off. Also automatic upgrades.

>>106253631 (OP)
It was rightful hate because its an abomination. Each version of windows is worse than what comes before. Each release reaches new heights of depravity not even previously conceivable. Each upgrade is like descending to a new circle of hell, reaching new levels of suffering.

the same reason that 11 gets hate now, because it shoves fag shit all over your system that you can't do anything about. such as this.

>>106254814
and another example.

>>106254828
>>106254814
What kind of zogged out w11 do you burgers get? I've never seen any ads or shit like this lmao

>>106254828
and another, this being part of the forced telemetry that records every application on your system in the taskbar that you click on, including process names in the other subkeys (AppSwitched / Applaunch ) , the only mention of this type of fuckery is on literal police forensic analysis sites which document it.

It was extremely buggy for a few years until 2021 or so where they fixed a memory leak, your system would basically become slower and more unresponsive the longer it was up for until you were forced to reset it

>>106253631 (OP)
The same reason people get pissed about 11 and eventually 12. There's absolutely no benefits for the end user. If windows 7 were still officially maintained and supported by new software, I would definitely use it. Windows 10 or 11 brought absolutely no value to anything I do on my computer.

>>106253631 (OP)
it was all downhill from winxp onward

>>106253941
>>106253893

people who updated from Windows 7 hated it
people who updated from Windows 8 didnt hate

>>106254836
They don't know enough to remove the bloatware

>>106253631 (OP)
it was garbage until 19H2

>>106255372
what was wrong?

all versions seem to have similar GUI

>>106255379
not talking about the gui, i'm talking stability/usability

>>106253631 (OP)
Yeah it truly is a mystery OP…

>>106253631 (OP)
it's still dogshit
my pc always gets stuck during updates, and these motherfuckers force updates on you even when you turn them off
right now, my pc is stuck at the desktop for well over 30 minutes
i simply clicked right click to refresh, but it's still showing me the loading cursor on screen

Windows 7 treated you like an adult. It didn't do all the spying and telemetry.
If you turned off updates they were off.
If you manualy updated you got a list of all the possible upgrades it wanted to do and you could uncheck or check what you wanted.
Like that old or custom driver even though windows always wants to replace it with a worse one? Just uncheck the box.
Want to make a very stable or more secure system by modifying a lot, trimming half the background processes, etc it let you and stayed that way unless you asked.
The computer didn't do what it wanted in spite of you to the benefit of microsoft, it respected you.

Windows 10 changed all that and you have to actualy break parts of the OS (that it may try to fix later) to even get some things back.

Windows 11 takes that further and records the serial number of every component used and keeps a record of every user of every computer component, which microsoft stores, and it is mandatory.
And what they have planned later basicly watches every move, keystroke, nearby wireless device, phone, smart device, etc in range of the computer, with ai. For your convenience of course so it can think and adjust for you.
These are nightmare OS and will make hacking and surveilence of the population much easier.

>>106253631 (OP)
i think it and obama were turning people racist.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-3spnGnavWFg

>>106253631 (OP)
Windows was always bad

>>106254839
>records every application on your system in the taskbar that you click on,
This is deep. I didn't know about this and now I hate Windows even more.

>>106253631 (OP)
>Why did Windows 10 get so much hate in 2015?
I still hate Windows 10. It is garbage compared to Windows 7.

2009:
>Windows XP good, 7 bad
2015:
>Windows 7 good, 10 bad
2021:
>Windows 10 good, 11 bad
The history book repeats itself

>>106256938
more like
> XP good, vista bad
>7 good, 10 bad
>7 good, 11 bad

>>106253631 (OP)
because it was allegedly spying on you and didn't let you browse storefront (by default at least) and rightoids lost their shit.
Not even kidding, that's most of it.
Everyone else saw it as a necessary escape from W8/8.1

11 is unironically fine now.
You don't even need LTSC. You can debloat 99% of it pretty easily if you have Professional.

>>106253631 (OP)
Having an SSD should've been a requirement. Windows 10 was unusable on a Hard Drive, especially older ones that were upgraded from Windows 7. This was the case on my parents old PC. They did the free upgrade and their PC became literally unusable.

>>106257823
>11 is unironically fine now.

>>106257861
People here said the exact same thing about 10 but I bet you're using it right now, you're just too young to remember.

>>106253631 (OP)
There was literally no reason to leave Windows 7.

>>106255340
We do. It just feels like a losing battle cause there's always something breaking during tweaking and Microsoft continues to move silly shit into the os.

>>106257938
And people were right. What's your point?
>u use win10
Yes? It doesn't change the fact that its filled with telemetry.

>>106253631 (OP)
>GWX upgrade campaign that was aggressive and perfidious
>privacy concerns regarding new methods of system data collection like DiagTrack, CompatTelRunner (some parts of were backported to 8.x and 7 later on)
>that made all previous phone-home scares like CEIP, Error Reporting and Windows Genuine Advantage look tame in comparison
>especially considering the post-Snowden zeitgeist and how not long before people slammed M$ for the Xbox One's initial DRM policies, the console being always-on(line) and with the integrated Kinect sensor potentially tracking you
>new Windows Update frontend in the Settings app (no more Control Panel applet), with changed logic of "Check for updates" button being "Check, download and install NAO!"
>automatic updates being practically set to "install and prompt for reboot" only unless you changed the group policy, as the advanced automatic update settings in the frontend stopped containing the "choose how Windows should deliver updates" settings anymore
>first Windows release after the QA team layoffs in 2014 - doubts about the release quality, especially as testing was delegated to the common folk now (Windows Insiders), doing it for free like jannies
>initial UI being a failed abortion of Metro/Modern UI and the desktop experience of earlier Windows
>this blue bitch from Halo being the useless virtual assistant
>and your usual teething problems with initial releases
Then you had some people complaining about how stuff that they used in Windows 7 or 8 were either deprecated or fully gone in 10 like Photo Viewer or Media Center, and some complaining about sponsored apps in the new-old start panel (though this depended on the region and edition used).

Some have downgraded to previous Windows releases, some have grown accustomed to the OS due to improvements like DX12, fullscreen optimizations (MPO), newer WDDM and NDIS standards and whatnot from the feature upgrades. All was swell until 11 came to be released...

DOS - > Windows 98 was a real value proposition and worth it I was very glad with the upgrade.

98 - > XP was also a very good upgrade that I voluntarily took with good feelings all around.

XP - >Vista was the biggest ball kick I ever experienced because I trusted Microsoft so far. It was also when I found out about Linux for the first time. I just went back to XP instead.

XP to windows 7 was a real downgrade but I was forced to update because XP legitimately got attacked all the time with malware.

Windows 7 - > 8 I didn't even attempt. Windows 7 - > 10 was only done because long term support ended. Windows 10 was a significant downgrade and it's the first time I moved some of my systems (home server) to Linux.

I'm now moving my daily driver to Linux as well because there's no way I will go to windows 11 ever. The next one after seems like an even bigger abomination.

Honestly moving from XP to Windows7 was already a humiliation ritual I shouldn't have done and just jumped to Linux and just not bother with gaming anymore.

>>106256938
And they were right every time, relatively speaking.

>>106253631 (OP)
because most people were forced to "upgrade" to it from this

>>106255455
I still use classic shell and everytime I see the default start menu I shudder a bit.

I liked the clean UI. This was when forced updates and "downloadable OS" stuff happened, basically "Windows as a subscription" rather than standalone products.

>>106253631 (OP)
Wangblows 7 was peak Wangblows why would you need 10 or even 11 wangs to blow.

>>106253631 (OP)
because it's a downgrade from 7, 8 doesn't exist btw

>>106253631 (OP)
>>106254839

dont forget
>we are going to secretly scan your computer and upload every jpg and png you look up into a sql file and clandestinely send it to microsoft to be handed over to law enforcement just to make sure you arent doing the needful. oh you didnt do anything wrong? thats okay, we need that private data to make illegal profiles on you anyways :)

>>106258889
>XP to windows 7 was a real downgrade but I was forced to update because XP legitimately got attacked all the time with malware.

xp was a completely open system in which the user could write and sign their own drivers. This was really great for hobbyists and corporations alike, but it also made the system highly vulnerable to attacks. you could directly connect to a xp system just by knowing their ip address like it was an open server because we were still living in the last pieces of the old white high trust society where nobody would ever do bad things for no reason. but then all the shit skins started going online and scamming people after bill gates built tech schools in india.

people liked it at the time

>>106253631 (OP)
Pretty much every Windows OS received hate on first release. XP even got hate on release.

>>106260424
Because of beta testing and enshitification

>>106254839
IT'S OVER.

>>106260385
>xp was a completely open system in which the user could write and sign their own drivers
Which is why it's still used by extreme overclockers even today.

>>106260763
No, funny enough, XP got hate for the same main reason that Vista got hate, people needed to upgrade their PCs. You can still find plenty of ancient forum posts about it.

>>106258290
Windows 11 pro can cancel out more tele.etry than 10 even could unless you were using LTDC, but good luck playing games on that in a year

>>106258889
You skipped 95 and ME

>>106254839
where

>>106261124
right in front of u nigga, literally all of those subkeys

>>106256938
Each version is exponentially worse than what came before. If you were vivisected to death and resurrected daily, you would look fondly on the good old times, when you were only given a good beating daily. Its not the being beaten daily is good, but its a lot better than being vivisected to death.

>>106253631 (OP)
because it really licks the llama's taint

>>106253631 (OP)
Bcause it was trash from 2015 perspective when people didn't know about windows 11.

>>106256856
t. has a 300 MB syslog

>>106254836
I'm American and have run Windows 10 Pro its whole life and I've never seen any of this myself.

>>106254814
>>106254828
Win10 has and has had actual reasons to dunk on it, schizo

>>106253631 (OP)
because we didn't know how bad Windows 11 would be.

>>106253631 (OP)
Aero = soul
Metro = homo
This says nothing about 10 compared to 8 which was turbohomo

>>106253631 (OP)
What's not to hate?