Thread 106256463

What is the /g/ approved system for home security?

>>106256463 (OP)
being a NEET and never leaving the house, ever.

>>106256463 (OP)
i use a pi zero 2 w tucked away in the corner of my apartment with a wide-angle arducam/sony 16mp camera module attached. have a little python server that captures images on a timer and switches to video if there's movement. at night i can set the exposure time up super high to get a clear picture, and i know it can't "phone home" like a cheap aliexpress camera setup

>>106256463 (OP)
Synology if you're willing to pay for it.
Or host your own dvr setup if you have a server at home.

>>106256486
this seems pretty cool desu. But if you have the knowhow to setup something yourself, couldn't you just block whichever cheap chinese camera you have from phoning home? The dvr server recording the footage is local anyway so just set up a static IP for the camera and block it from the router.

>>106256463 (OP)
A shotgun

>>106257289
Security system intended also for when you are not at home.

>>106257468
That fucking thing can flip one day and eat my kids' faces.
No thanks.

>>106256463 (OP)
>What is the /g/ approved system for home security?

>>106257505
shit owners = shit dogs. i've been around what are considered to be "dangerous" dogs but pitbulls will defend those kids before it ever hurt them. i used to have rhodesian ridgebacks, they will bite your face just for fun - bred for it, but they love their owners and would only ever hurt intruders.

>>106257527
That is the /k/ one i believe

>>106256463 (OP)
I already had ubiquiti router and APs, so I got ubiquiti security stuff too so it's all managed in one place.

>>106257289
>>106257527
>leave to buy more tendies
>come home to your window smashed and shotgun missing

>>106256463 (OP)
live in a country that isn't a shithole.

>>106257584
works for /g/ as well. just pretend it's an intel or amd chip.

>>106256463 (OP)
>Get some half decent PoE cameras
>Reolink if you're a poorfag, Hikvision or Dahua if you can spend a bit more
>Have a little server running Frigate, optionally paired with home assistant for remote monitoring
>Have a decent router so you can firewall the cameras off from accessing the internet directly

It's as shrimple as that. If you have some old hardware laying around you can hack together a server for a pretty low cost. My router didn't have the firewall settings I needed, and I couldn't flash it with custom firmware, so I'm using it just as an access point, with a raspberry pi running openwrt as a router.

>>106256463 (OP)
>/g/ approved systen
Frigate, ZoneMinder, MotionEye, anything that you run yourself with cheap cameras in a separate VLAN that doesn't allow access to the internet (every chinkshit aliexpress camera below 70 bucks hosts IoT malware like mirai.)
Otherwise just take the moneypill and spend a bunch on synology or unifi. Hikvision has nice colorview, but watch out that you don't buy come chink-lang only grey import unless you can reflash it to USA or european firmware

>>106256486
No MotionEye?
>16MP
on a zero 2? damn, I'm impressed.

>>106257639
name one

>>106256463 (OP)
CCTV systems have really evolved and it's hard to compete against commercial stuff with diy solutions.

The cameras themselves run on ASICs that do advanced processing like 2D/3D noise reduction, WDR, h265 encoding and local inference. All for $50. Any diy camera is going to be lacking in comparison.

Most of the foss solutions like frigate, scrypted, shinobi hide the advanced stuff behind paid subscriptions.

Rolling you own solutions for things like apps, remote access, inference, push notifications is pretty involved. But if you already have a home server running home assistant or some other ecosystem I'd start there.

>>106258745
DIY to me is PoE camera with a self hosted DVR.
IDK who is actually cobbling together the cameras themselves

>>106256463 (OP)
custom built automatic .308win turret running on orange pi + several remotely activated and controlled explosive fpv drones so you can add a personal touch

>>106258745
The only thing frigate locks behind paid subscriptions are the more advanced AI models for object detection, which you don't really need. For 99% of users the free version is more than enough.

IMO their documentation could be a bit better, particularly when it comes to how to configure frigate to actually talk to your cameras, but chatgpt actually does a pretty good job at writing the config files for you and debugging what's wrong.

system?
I have a machete, a hunting knife and a blank gun
t. Germoid no(real)guns fag

>>106258766
Nobody's building their own cameras, but security cameras have much more advanced features compared to some webcam you pulled from the back of your desk drawer, or even bought new from Amazon. That being said, some of those features, like AI object/person detection, might not function if you use a 3rd party NVR software instead of their native app, since the software will have its own version of that. What will matter is the quality of the sensor, video encoding, HDR, night vision, IR capabilities, etc. The worst-case test would be how clear of an image can you get of a license plate speeding off in the distance at night. Where a top of the line CCTV camera might let you make out a few digits of the plate, with a webcam you'd be lucky if you can even tell there's a car in the frame.

>>106256463 (OP)
one that is entirely disconnected from the internet

>>106259330
This. This cannot be stressed enough.

You never expose that crap on the internet. (unless you are being blackmailed into it by the assurance company...)
If you really want to be able to monitor it remotely, then you setup a VPN server on your home network.

i have a reolink setup that works great for my purposes. it's easy to go down the rabbit hole and be persuaded into thinking you need military grade surveillance gear that costs thousands of dollars but i have several poe cameras plus the nvr and it was like $700 and does everything i'd want, and it's free from any subscriptions or cloud storage. /g/ wouldn't approve but the android app is also well designed and useful as a supplemental, but not required, convenience

>>106259516
>700 buckaroos
5 years ago I ran 2x 2K cams with zoneminder on a 12 year old high school computer with a spinning disk.
Paid more like 70 bucks, large chunk of that actually went to the PoE injectors because I don't trust chink power supplies

>>106259608
that's cool, some of us aren't poor and don't mind spending a few bucks to save a bunch of time and hassle

>>106258240
>little server running Frigate
If you really want to sex up your solution, get a Google Coral
>hardware device
>does on-device object recognition (face, human, package, car, etc)
>no cloud required, all the compute happens on the Coral
Oh, and air gap those Chi-cams. Those fuckers phone home and tend to have undocumented & hardcoded credentials.

>>106256463 (OP)
>Cheap N100 machine
>Google coral TPU
>Frigate docker container
>Whatever camera(s) you want hooked up to it

Simple as

>>106260144
That's kinda what ubiquiti AI cameras do.

>>106260164
This all day, worth the yearly subscription, even if I wanted it to be free considering it's self hosted

>>106257546
lmao shitbull defenders always come out and say it's the owner's fault.
how come the majority of death by mauling are toddlers and elderly people?
despite being 6% of the dog population they commit 75% of all deadly attacks against humans.
shitbulls have been bred and designed to kill, when they eventually snap you or other people you care about will become another statistic.

>>106258745
>. Any diy camera
what exactly is "y" in diy camera? you are not going to create your own display matrix

>>106260527
> this level of shit bait
RIP this board.

>>106258745
I have that shitty 720p webcam you can barely see anything on it. I use it intentionally so my coworkers have no idea what I look like

>>106260640
where is the lie?

>>106256486
post scripts.

>>106256475
what about when you sleep?

>>106258745
>op's picture fall into the bottom square section
always them...
I swear, Chinks are /g/'s nigger.

>>106256463 (OP)
Living in a first world country.
At work we use Ubiquiti stuff. The security stuff and Wifi work well but I hate their switches and firewalls.

>>106257468
>>>106256463 (OP)
>>106257527
These can't record for insurance purposes

>>106260804
>At work we use Ubiquiti stuff.
My work uses Ubiquiti, I noticed they put up that fancy license plate reader AI camera facing the parking lot, not sure exactly what they're using it for though.

raspberry pi's, bunch of webcams taped or drilled into walls, all connected through usb, wrote my own software to record, motion detect, stream live, wrote the servers and clients

>>106260957
This only seems viable if your time is worthless to you.

SHOT GUN

>>106260630
you plugged one thing into the other so that means youre a electronics engineer nao :)

>>106260970
you dont have 1-2 hours free? then go back to your cotton field wagie, also it didnt take longer than a week for implementing and another week of testing (1-2h each day)

Can these things run on battery + solar panel outside?

>>106258745
Putting together the DIY solution is a lot of fun actually. Don't you love technology?

I built a nas with 48tb of usable storage a couple of years ago and I've barely managed to pack 8tb on it so far. I really overdid it. This makes me want to consider setting up a home surveillance system with it. So much unused space...

You fucking pervert

>>106261052
Whoops I meant 54tb it just shows up as less in wangblows

>>106261013
>only 20-30 hours invested
>I make $45/hr
That buys a pretty decent security system with far more functionality than your cobbled-together trash.

>>106261019
some of them are DESIGNED for that.

>>106261067
yeah but i dont have chinese/burger backdoors baked in

>>106261086
Did you make your own cpu

>>106261107
>pointless strawman
https://riscv.org/

>>106261112
Five Eyes approved

>>106258745
Just take the cheapest ONVIF compliant cameras and throw them under a separate VLAN.

>>106261066
54000000000000 Bytes is 49.11 TiB.
You were sold drives in multiples of 10^3, not 2^10.

>>106261086
I'm fine with burger backdoors, I live/work in the DC area, everyone around here is a spook anyway.

I'll take AI features and plug and play setup and ease of use over some slapped-together trash that likely isn't any more secure, just obscure. Meaning if a state level actor actually gave a shit, your obscure custom setup would be a minor stumbling block at best.

>>106260818
lil bro thinks i have insurance

>>106260677
Get a free dog. Even an anklebiter makes enough noise.

>>106261201
My heckin' wholesome huskerinos have killed people???

>>106261201
idk how people think shitbulls are cute. just admit you're getting a nigger dog to do nigger shit

>>106261222
Huskies can be quite aggressive under the right circumstances.

Wouldn't shock me at all if some of those deaths the dog was defending itself, its owner, or puppies.

>>106256486
>captures images
Most cams made these days can do on-cam motion detection and most have the ability to define motion exclusion zones on camera.
>way more efficient
>just sends you motion events
>scales better
But whatever you do, do this
>>106260144
>air gap
or this
>>106258648
>separate VLAN

any good guides for blocking these ling ling cams from leaking my shit?
I just want a good read that can cover the schizo scenarios

>>106261713
just airgap it. you're already larping, just get some "thin client" mini pc and only pull footage off it when something happens (which will be never, the robbers will just steal it anyway)

>>106261723
How am I larping if I have genuine curiosity, I already have a few homeservers up so I have the hardware to do it and I'm learning opnsense

>>106256463 (OP)
feds getting direct feeds into your home? why on earth would you do that?

>>106261741
you're likely to be larping because you are too stupid to simply disconnect an object from the internet

>m-muh home server
great you bought an hdd enclosure that can have an IP and use a router you bought online instead of the one Ma Bell sent you, gj

>>106261909
They don't have the manpower or storage space to care about you.

>>106261925
I just wanted to ask a harmless question
Sorry you got molested bro

>>106256463 (OP)
Old phone full of backdoors streaming 24/7. Attached to the wall with duct tape that I got for 1.5$ in the chinese market. Not going to pay for a camera.

>>106260527
>that pic
kek. Everything you said is true, fuck all shitbull owners.

>>106257623
But what about the tendies?

>>106260527
sex with these creatures

>>106262101
You can only pick 1

>>106262203
the one on the left then. I will correct her

>>106261723
I don't have the cameras to capture criminals. I have them to creep on those walking by.

>>106262536
buy a DSLR and a ghille suit like a real man

>>106262636
I'm too obese for that.

>>106262536
Save up, AI 4k camera with 31x optical zoom coming later this year.

Though price will likely be around $1500-2000.

>>106262706
>AI 4k
so all your footage is literally picrel and it will absolutely require an internet connection to function, and it will stop functioning as soon as their LLM of choice updates even once

>>106262829
lol, no.

The AI is done locally on the device, and it's not making shit up, it's used to track specific people/objects, so they can be set to follow/track specific faces and ignore anyone else you don't give a fuck about.

At least learn what an AI security camera is before you make yourself look this retarded again.

>>106260677
most neets function on a 4PM - 6AM schedule it works out well for security

Physically disconnected all power and Internet connections whenever you're not using them. It's the only way.

>>106257438
Venomous insects throughout your home, which you have developed an immunity to over time.

>>106256507
>>106256507
why would you not recommend self-hosting, dumb ass

>>106262829
That's a Ubiquiti camera. All Ubiquiti products, albeit expensive, run locally with no subscriptions and no licences.

>>106262883
>At least learn what an AI security camera is before you make yourself look this retarded again.
AI is buzzword nowadays, it's used as a blanket term for pretty much anything that requires even a bit of computing. It is used correctly in this case, but in many other products you see shit like AI powered fans, AI chairs, AI beds or even AI thermostats.

>>106262668
Buy 2 ghille suits, then

>>106262706
Can the AI detection be set up to track women with large boobs or is it not that capable?

>>106263824
You might be able to set up something custom, but I doubt it.

Currently it's mostly designed to track faces/animals and vehicles/license plates

>>106262883
>>106263356
>it's by BRAND(tm) so its good please believe me!!!
nah i'll just use a 20$ chink webcam and not connect it directly to my network, kys shills

>>106264513
Yea cause that $20 camera is TOTALLY comparable to the camera that was posted.

Just say you're a poorfag.

>>106257527
>>106257584
Only boomers or poor fags that inherited grandpas shotgun would use a model 12.
It's a great gun but they stopped making them ~40 years ago.

>>106264532
for staring at an unmoving door for 18 hours a day, yes, the 20$ camera is completely sufficient and no amount of tranny shaming will get me to buy le ebin stream gaymer camera

>>106264539
>boomers or poor fags
so /k/ then

>>106260677
I have an axe next to my bad and very descriptive diagnosis. Combine this with a profound desire for suicidal acts, anyone would be stupid to risk their life for an encrypted librebooted thinkpad X60.

>>106264607
>for staring at an unmoving door for 18 hours a day, yes, the 20$ camera is completely sufficient and no amount of tranny shaming will get me to buy le ebin stream gaymer camera
Except you removed the context in which that camera was posted you dumb faggot

The anon was talking about using cameras to spy on people walking around nearby, a 4k 31x optical zoom camera that can automatically track and follow specific people by their face is drastically different than some $20 chink camera meant to look at a door all day.

>>106264922
buy a DSLR and a ghille suit like a real man

>>106264922
>no amount of tranny shaming will get me to buy le ebin stream gaymer camera
Anon, that's a $2000 camera meant for warehouses and shit so you can track where your employees are at any given time.

>>106261052
A good DVR like Frigate will only capture footage when motion is detected anyway, so you don’t need nearly as much space unless there’s some sort of regulatory requirement for 24/7 video footage

>>106262829
AI is also used to refer to computer vision algorithms that can run on a potato and do object identification and tracking. No LLMs involved

>>106263824
>Can the AI detection be set up to track women with large boobs
I'm waiting for the "morally casual attitude" plug-in

>>106256463 (OP)
>What is the /g/ approved system for home security?
Wired, no internet beyond that it does not matter. If you want to acces sit remotely then air gap it and put a single camera pointing at the 8x8 or whatever. None of the chink boxes are safe to put ion the internets. Beyond that go play metal gear solid to figure out optimal location and make sure its at least 1080P with a dogital NV and you ahve IR illuminators. The best security is a dog around you as an alarm....they pick up on intruders hundreds of yards away while they are not even close. You can consider drones with flir and GPS routes automated as well as drone radar and retractable bollards and cattle trps but I don't think you are on that level. The nastiest booby trap? A 1KW laser but it will probably blind you or your dog before it gets an intruder. Get a shotgun, metal shutters with UPS back up and a steel and rubber cover for yoru exterior doors and a steel and rubber protector for your door frame..

Go monitored alarm with internet and SMS and be prepared, gangs have jammers now which is why wireless caremeras are useless. Everythig has to be cabled. Consider kill zones a safe room and a kevlar jacker in it that can trigger argon fire suppression form within by zones and suffocate the bastards.

>>106256463 (OP)
datamining thread

>>106265802
delusional retard

anyone capable of datamining a 4chan thread to a specific individual would already have access to that person's online purchase history.

The idea that anyone would datamine something highly specific like security camera usage among /g/ users is just retardation.

>>106257468
Stupid fucking retard. I hope you get mauled by your own pet and it gets put down, so the damages are only contained to yourself.

>>106265809
i think he means more for general marketing information, not gangstalking

>>106265913
Even more useless since half these morons are Indians pretending to be American or European

>>106265922
indians have money now to waste on expensive trash so that would actually be really good info to have

>>106265809
>The idea that anyone would datamine something highly specific like security camera usage among /g/ users is just retardation.
yeah there'd be no interest in figuring out how to disable /g/ haxxors security systems, such nonsense

>>106256463 (OP)
I've been using Xiaomi and some rebranded chink cams connected directly to the internet. so far they've been useful and mostly just work®. I got used to using these little shits cuz they are cheap af and don't need much shit.
but yeah, I need to replace that shit with a local DIY setup + some sort of proxy or whatever. my ISP got me under CGNAT so that sucks though.

>>106266063
>how to disable /g/ haxxors security systems,
solved issue

>>106264733
The thief can rape you with your own axe before you even can wake up and grab it.

how would you set up surveillance in a rental where I cant necessarily do *anything* I want to, such as drilling through walls and routing wires, etc

>>106260144
>>106260164
I think you don't need a Coral at all if you have a relatively modern Intel iGPU that supports OpenVINO.

Don't have any hardware yet, planning a security cam setup for my new house.
>Reolink/Dahua PoE cams on dedicated camera VLAN, firewalled off with zero internet access
>DIY NAS with Frigate on the same VLAN (through dedicated 1GbE NIC?)
>2.5 GbE NIC on NAS used for main VLAN, access to Frigate but not to cams
I wonder how much of a problem you have if someone manages to plug into the camera VLAN using one of the outdoor camera ethernet cables. Maybe it's a good idea to have separate VLANs for indoor and outdoor cameras so an attacker wouldn't be able to reach indoor cams from outside?
Also, how secure are VLANs? Is it theoretically possible to jump VLANs and if so, would a physically separate network be better? Would take more hardware though, instead of having a single big managed PoE switch for my entire home.

> I wonder how much of a problem you have if someone manages to plug into the camera VLAN using one of the outdoor camera ethernet cables.

The Cameras are password protected aswell.

>>106256463 (OP)
Interested in this.
I don't need a very complicated setup though.
I just need something like peephole camera for the door and another on the balcony.
Will these lightbulb wifi camera be a good option?
And connect it to something self hosted like frigate or something? Or maybe even settling for the included app.

>>106266250
>>106264966
>>106260994
>Just man up, buy guns
>>106260804
>>106257639
>Live in a first world country, not a shithole
OP here. Wow this really took off! Thanks for all the helpful replies. For context: I live in tiny little scenic tourist town in Australia with less than 100 people. It's very first-world and yes we have guns because we're mostly farming/agricultural workers, but they're all registered and locked in safes like they should be. The problem is that there are a lot of empty holiday homes, and a young ~20yo meth-addict couple have "moved into" one of them. Without the absent owner complaining, the cops can't evict them. Without the police being able to catch them in a stolen (unregistered for years) car, they cant prove they were the ones they were chasing. People have caught them stumbling around trying to pinch shit in broad daylight but they scatter like cockroaches as soon as they say OI CUNT and pull out their phone. The burden of proof lies with the person who has something stolen or themselves assaulted, and them having actual video evidence. Yes any one of us could just snap and blow their heads off in minecraft, but even threatening someone with a gun will have yours taken away, firearms license suspended, and (you) sent to jail long before the junkies will. Locals look like full Crocodile Dundee extras wearing fixed blade This Is A Knoife work knives to the pub at night so nobody ever gets assaulted, and most of screeching and bizarre bullshit happens in the middle of the day when the rest of us are at work. It's a pickle

Enjoy this piece of cultural enrichment for anyone unfamiliar with the elusive Aussie Meth Bogan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmOJ0_Gn1yM

>>106268172
Holy reddit

I've used Wyze for like 10 years.

>>106257623
>gunphobia fantasy #3
In reality nobody knows you have a shotgun because you don't brandish it around the neighborhood like Trailer Park Boys, and the state doesn't even know you have it until the LGS boomer dies and they inherit his records.

>>106267420
>how much of a problem you have if someone manages to plug into the camera VLAN using one of the outdoor camera ethernet cables
Not very much. They might be able to view the other cams. Strictly speaking there's no reason every camera shouldn't be on its own network.
>how secure are VLANs?
Depends on how pozzed your managed switch is. A lot of consumer models have magic VLAN numbers that broadcast to every network. Old routers running OpenWRT don't have that problem, nor do most enterprise models.

>>106256463 (OP)
Frigate with Coral M.2 TPU

>>106256463 (OP)
Reolink NVR, isolated from the internet.

>>106268163
Are you going to do only one camera? The problem with wireless cameras is that they can saturate your wireless network very quickly if you have several of them. If you're doing just one camera and this is for general home surveillance, that should be fine. The biggest issue will be if you can get the raw feed and use it or you have to use some server in China.

>>106256463 (OP)
Camera, video cable, old TV.
Anything else is spyware. Fuck off.

>>106271493
99% of you retards carry an android phone 24/7/365 anyway.

>>106270966
Two actually.
One in the balcony the other at the door.
>saturate your wireless network
Most of my devices are on 5gHz and even on 2.4 gHz ,two 1080p streams @ 1mbps doubtfully will saturate Wifi 4.
>The biggest issue will be if you can get the raw feed and use it or you have to use some server in China.
Aren't most of those just fancy fixture that uses the same IP webcam backend?
Even then I don't mind unless I need to use phone and not a web browser can't record it.
>>106271493
>connecting wires to hijack the signal

AI gun turrets when?

>>106271613
You can probably already do it.

Ubiquiti AI cameras can be set up to trigger an event when it detects a person.

That event could be set up to tell a gun turret to aim at the location the camera is currently looking and fire a shot.

Not plug and play, but would require only minimal programming to get things working. Probably something you could get chatGPT to throw together if you told it you were designing an automation trigger for foxes and a paintball gun to protect chickens via AI camera.

>>106271613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvZhRUsKNG4

>>106256463 (OP)
all analogue or ip cameras have openIPC installed

>>106272084
Half the people installing those locks probably have shitty non-reinforced frames anyway so you can just kick past it in 3-5 seconds regardless of how hard it is to pick.

>>106272153
my frame is ok-ish, but anyway, I live in an apartment complex. trying to kick down the door would alert the neighbors.

>>106272194
It still doesn't negate the desire/need to have a security camera system.

Just like how a strong lock is a deterrent to thieves looking for a quick entry, security cameras are also an effective deterrent.

>>106272221
yeah, entire building has monitoring system, with cameras on every floor. we used to have a security guard too, but not anymore.

>>106271613
Ten years ago I bought a pressure sensitive mat and put it under a small rug at the entrance to my cubicle at work. If someone stepped on the rug, the mat would detect it and turn on a rotating light and have a foam missile launcher turn to aim at the entrance way. It wouldn't launch anything, but it was enough to alert me that there was someone behind me and served as a distraction for them so I could lock my screen and turn around. Everyone, including my manager, thought it was funny.

>>106260144
>air gap

Is this needed? What if I just VLAN them off and block all ingress/egress on that subnet?

>>106260144
Pretty sure Frigate basically moved on from Coral. I should have sold mine when they were selling for 3x the price.

>>106275393
>Pretty sure Frigate basically moved on from Coral
https://docs.frigate.video/
Seems like they still recommend some sort of dedicated device for image processing. The docs specifically say "don't use CPU for MoDet"
My work uses a thing called Genetec and their recommendation is "do motion detection on camera, not on the server".

>>106276372
Docs are probably just not updated. I don't get all the new things they added with the beta using Coral

>>106276811
>>106276372
Actually looking again it looks like they have a bunch of updated models for Coral now. So I guess I'll give those a try. I think when I tried last they were GPU only unless I just imagined it.

>>106256463 (OP)
Hikvision

>>106275393
>>106276372
It only works on some ancient version of ubuntu and requires running in docker with USB forwarding. The hardware still performs very well but software/drivers is outdated and getting increasingly annoying to get up and running.

>>106277007
Unironically this. Sounds Chinese AF. but industry standard shit. If you Combine it with Z-wave and a Home Assistant server, you're in the money.

Z-wave + Home Assistant is particularly compelling because of using "Proprietary" alarm devices, but being able to use them in a Open source way, as Z-wave is a open standard.

>>106277057
My Dahua cameras look better than my Hikvision ones and I fucking swore off of Hikvision because they locked the webui to IE on one of mine and it's a fucking headache to reconfigure.

>>106256463 (OP)
Nothing specific, just PoE cameras with an NVR that doesn't require Internet

>>106274836
>Is this needed? What if I just VLAN them off and block all ingress/egress on that subnet?
How to do this if I have shitty router?
I have parent control, can't I add the MAC address and disable the internet address?

>>106277154
>they locked the webui to IE on one of mine
what?

>>106277160
Do you need NVR?

>>106277057
>>106277007
I wish there's a western version of this. I'm impressed that they can sell multi spectral and Infrared cameras.

the most safe and simple you could get is dvr type cctv
now if you are looking for home automation stuff thats wireless, solar powered, face tracking, ai shit. you have choose between western or chinese spying.

>>106278398
>the most safe and simple you could get is dvr type cctv
Then it's just hardware backdoor.
Most of those DVRs actually hardware malware that effectively spy on you.

>spend thousands installing security system
>come back home
>it's stolen too
thanks for playing

>>106278472
Just have the shit mounted 10-20 feet in the air, without a cherry picker or ladders no thief is gonna get those.

>>106256463 (OP)
Frigate + old Bosch and Sony cameras. Fuck chinkshit

>>106278393
There is, but it costs more

>>106278363
Not necessarily a dedicated one but if you set up a server to record PoE cameras it's still an NVR

>>106280557
So NVR is just a switch wit OS to record?
I can use something like RPi instead?

>>106280568
If you hated yourself, sure. Get something with SATA or SAS

>>106280568
>So NVR is just a switch wit OS to record?

>>106280568
>something like RPi instead
Lol why would you unless you hate yourself?

>>106280653
>>106280594
Ok, what about mini PC with proper HW encoding?
>>106280597
OK stop bullying me I'm asking a legit question.

>>106280696
>OK stop bullying me I'm asking a legit question.
You not know the difference between a server and a switch. You deserve to be made fun of until you learn how technology works

>>106280696
>Ok, what about mini PC with proper HW encoding?
I mean, the real problem is the operating system

There are no good open source solutions, they do exist but they're generally shit or abandoned.

If you want to fork one, feel free, but it's not something you can just go and do yourself without massive headaches.

>>106280721
>There are no good open source solutions
https://frigate.video/

>>106280768
That's the BEST one, but it still isn't ideal, for example they don't have a native iOS app.

>>106280775
Literally who cares, use the web server or home assistant

>>106280721
>There are no good open source solutions, they do exist but they're generally shit or abandoned.
What?
What about motionOS? frigate?
>>106280775
>iOS
kek, for a second I thought you're a real person.
your opinion has been discarded

>>106280793
>>106280808
Anyone who has a family that isn't turbo autists.

My family uses iOS, I don't, but they do, and I'm not going to be some retarded autistic faggot installing a system none of them can use or understand.

Feel free to be a lonely virgin your entire lives and make things more difficult for anyone who happens to already be in your life, but that isn't how I enjoy spending my time.

Unifi security cameras do the trick for me and my family.

>>106280826
https://docs.frigate.video/configuration/pwa/
retard

>>106280826
>Damage control

>>106280826
>Unifi

>>106257468
>>106257546
>shit owners = shit dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MefQMIfMhOU
Lol lmao even

>>106256463 (OP)
Not opening your front door to random strangers. Anyone that does that (especially in a shithole city) is retarded.

>>106256475
valid choice

>>106257468
An intruder would be the least of your worries if you had that thing around you.

>>106257546
Schrodinger's Dog:

>Smart enough to be your soulmate, therapist, guardian angel and moral compass
>Dumb enough to be absolved of any responsibility ever

Dog protects owner from burglar:
>See? Dogs have amazing instincts and loyalty, better than any human!
Dog mauls neighbor/kid:
>It's not the dog's fault, he was just scared/overexcited, blame the humans!

Dog does literally nothing, but happens to comforts depressed owner by its presence:
>Dogs have a magical sixth-sense for human emotions, they're natural therapists!
Dog ignores owner's suffering or attacks someone having a seizure:
>He's just an animal, you can't expect him to understand complex human stuff!

Dog drools on baby/knocks it over:
>That's adorable, dogs and babies are the purest combo ever, wholesome overload!
Dog bites baby's face off:
>It's the parent's fault! Dogs shouldn't be expected to know any better, it's just instinct!

There's tons of examples like this. Literally anything good that a dog does is a sign of the dog's intelligence, and anything bad is no fault of the dog.

>>106256463 (OP)
Cameras do nothing for security unless there is an armed guard that uses them.

>>106281450
South park has a whole episode about the absurdity of it all. ("In-Security"?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2y5MRdMKew

>>106257546
Pitbulls have a known tendency to get brain tumors and turn violent. They're excellent boar hunting dogs, but they're a rough work animal not a pet. You should be confident you can kill one with your bare hands if you own one, and never leave it around others unattended.

>>106280775
You just set it up with Home Assistant which is trivial if you're setting up Frigate anyway. I have AI detect alerts using HA automations with it. Pretty sure it was made for it in mind which is why no one asks for a native app.

>>106257546
I really don't care if it's the dogs or the owners. We can shoot both to be safe.

>>106256463 (OP)
Planting many claymores and never leaving the house.

>>106256463 (OP)
dog

>>106278393
>I wish there's a western version of this.
you mean still produced in the same factory but designed by indians in san francisco?

>>106257546
bit pale for a nigger aren't you

>>106283249
It's funny Dahua and Hikvision are banned in the US but companies like Lorex, Annke, and Amcrest just rebrand anyway. You're getting a chink camera unless you get something by Axis or Avigilon that costs 10x as much.

What's even the point of a camera really
Unless you're watching the camera 24/7 it can't actually protect you, just at best maybe help the police find whoever if they didn't kill you when they broke in or wore a mask

We have cameras for a few years but only thing that happened was my aunt used it to see when the lady who makes the dog poop on the front grass came by and she shooed her off

>>106257546
I have a korgi

>>106284472
Provide visual proof at best.
I have few cam indoors for my kids safety though.

>>106284472
>Unless you're watching the camera 24/7 it can't actually protect you

That's what AI detection and notifications are for. But just as much as it's for security they're for a peace of mind.

>>106283353
>Dahua and Hikvision are banned in the US

>>106284639
>no amazon

>>106284569
Yeah, you're going to get a lot of peace of mind when your security camera films me hunched over you, pounding your silky bussy into oblivion

>>106284975
That's pretty gay bro but also I don't get why people have cameras in their bedrooms even though I've seen people post them. Has to be some fetish reason behind it.

>>106284706
Amazon isn't an authorized reseller. Most HikVision sales in the US are through professional installers.

>>106256463 (OP)
>What is the /g/ approved system for home security?
old thinkpad
coral tpu
frigate in docker
some cameras

>>106278341
>How to do this if I have shitty router

Get a non-shitty router.

>>106284472
It deters thieves because they have to take extra precautions to not be ID'd after the fact. Yes, you could just put up fake cameras for half of the benefit.

>>106285005
when you fall asleep after fucking the stripper you brought to your house, you can check to see if she stole your jewelry or other valuables.

>>106284472
>We have cameras for a few years but only thing that happened was my aunt used it to see when the lady who makes the dog poop on the front grass came by and she shooed her off
Some people live around niggers. Some people want to wallhack feds.

>>106261052
>>106261066
Why don't you rent the space (like with filecoin, a defi cloud storage I learned about recently) or torrent useful valuable stuff like Library Genesis or old media like anime and the like?

Guys, I think it would be a great idea if you also place motion sensors and trip wires on the perimeter of your property.

$1.25 each. Put up half a dozen in visible locations around your property and you have protection for under $10.

>buy actuated cameras with AI human figure recognition
>use recognition to pinpoint it at person's head
>mount powerful IR coaxially with the camera
>when alarm is triggered light up a bright blinking red LED on the camera unit
>thief instinctively looks straight into it
>his eyes evaporate instantly
like what is he going to tell the authorities, he looked at the red point and got blind?

>>106285469
why it's so pixelated?
How did you get coral tpu working with thinkpad?
>cameras
Wifi? or PoE?

>>106286825
>non-shitty router.
what do you recommoned senpai?

>>106288296
I suggest mix and matching real ones.

>>106289615
>why it's so pixelated?
He censored it
>How did you get coral tpu working with thinkpad?
Get an USB one
>>cameras
>Wifi? or PoE?
Always PoE. You need a reliable stream

>>106289780
>Get an USB one
What kind of retard thing to do
>Always PoE. You need a reliable stream
You're obviously an idiot.
But 100 mbps PoE switch is cheap

>>106289806
>What kind of retard thing to do
rude

>>106289780
>Get an USB one
There's no USB one.
And what's the point of AI acceleration since most of these can be done in software with better accuracy?

>>106289866
>There's no USB one.
But there is. I do have one.
>And what's the point of AI acceleration since most of these can be done in software with better accuracy?
It can be done much more efficiently on these than on a CPU. You can also use a recent iGPU with openvino but anons old stinkpad wont have one of those

>>106289904
>But there is. I do have one.
It's not available anymore I guess.
>recent iGPU
How recent?
and how much of performance improvement?
I'm not falling for the AI meme.

>>106289952
https://docs.frigate.video/configuration/object_detectors/

>>106289966
>frigate
Why do you think this shit is still legit option?

>>106289979
What else would you use? Some cuckcloud shit? Outdated trash like motioneye? Some proprietary trash?

>>106289952
>>106289904
Random person on reddit says his Ultra 7 155H does 16 cameras with ~5ms detection inference latency. And using his Coral TPU it's 10-20ms for the same cameras. So he uses just the CPU since it's faster.

>>106289997
Blue Iris.
Frigate is useless unless you pay for their plus version
>>106290015
My point, I think coral is more for very low end hardware like RPi

csg-approved outdoor cameras from a few years ago
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/93129203#93174746

>>106290027
>Frigate is useless unless you pay for their plus version
Detecting people works well without it, the plus version just lets you make custom detection models. Meanwhile Blue iris is proprietary trash and not free at all.

>>106290076
And?
you're using a proprietary shit right now.

>>106290095
I'm not, but you are

>>106290101
Prove it.

>>106256463 (OP)
not living around niggers

I'm probably gonna buy ubiquiti since it seems the most capable out of the box with a good UI/UX.

None of these systems are perfect, but ubiquiti at least integrates the most. I can have cameras, intercoms, doorbells, magnetic locks, keypad/smart card door access, face detection for door access, license plate detection for gate access, network video recorder, access points, router, and phones. All under one umbrella, all managed from one place, locally, without needing to host any of your data in someone else's cloud.

You can cobble together similar capabilities from other companies using open source solutions, but they're incredibly difficult to get setup and working, and are far more prone to breaking after updates since they're generally not systems built to integrate together the way ubiquiti is.

>>106290118
most heists are done by whites

>>106290143
>ubiquiti
They make cameras?
I have their nano beam

>>106257546
The kind of conscientious person who would make a "good owner" wouldn't risk their children's safety over something dumb like that which is why good pitbull owners are rare.

>>106290158
They have a ton of cameras.

$99 up to $1500+

>>106290158
They make tons of bullshit, and stop support for older products when their CEO gets excited for the Next Big Thing.

>>106290143
>ubiquiti
Why do you need enterprise hardware for home settings?
They don't even offer home options.

>>106290215
Why the markup?
ezviz offer the same quality for fraction of the price

>>106290474
They have tons of home options, what are you smoking?
They ALSO have enterprise/business shit.

>>106290490
Because it's an integrated ecosystem, like I said >>106290143

Does ezviz have routers, access points, phones, etc.

>>106263460
fucking incredible

>>106290501
>>106290494
So this is apple shit of networking?

>>106290150
Where, in Norway? Definitely not in America.

>>106290620
heists aren't the same as robberies

>>106290562
The guy who founded it worked at Apple, they didn't want to do his prototype idea so he left and founded ubiquiti.

So yes.

>>106289952
>Coral USB
>It's not available anymore I guess.
You're stupid or lazy or engagement farming.
https://coral.ai/products/accelerator

>>106290773
>cable

>>106289780
everything correct
>>106289866
>There's no USB one.
there still are, I got it from here, but I'm in EU
>And what's the point of AI acceleration since most of these can be done in software with better accuracy?
performace per watt/can be used in older deviced without powerful GPUs
t440p without coral had 200ms with one camera, and cpu usage was always very high
3 cameras with coral - no cpu load, ~10ms

>>106290974
>there still are
out of stock right now/can preorder
I mean they're still being produced, gotta shop around

>>106290562
It's like apple but without proper engineering. It's also unstable as fuck under the hood, running some bastardized ancient openWRT.

>>106291003
Also no bespoke hardware. It's the same shit you would buy from Netgear or Reolink.

>>106290974
>no cpu load,
Well yeah, you're using CPU on other machine
>>106291003
>apple
>proper engineering
pick one

>>106291092
>>apple
>>proper engineering
>pick one
I mean even compared to applel, which is really saying something

>>106291059
Lol that's delusional

anon...

>>106291242
>>106291378

>>106291242
Why do you need to buy this?

>>106291378
How is the IPS routing performance tho?

>>106291479
There is no IPS there

>>106291242
>bespoke
Anon that's a generic industrial project box with standard ports.

>>106290562
Cisco is the Apple of networking. They have their own OS and hardware. They're overpriced 90% of the time but persist because of irrational buyers. The only difference is in business you can't turn your product into a religion because nobody fucking cares, but you can curate a reputation that "nobody ever got fired buying ". That's exactly where Cisco is.

Ubnt is a weird cross section of redditor cultists and businesses who buy from off-brand vendors.

>>106291378
Wow, a totally different product, I'm shocked.

>>106291783
Yeah cisco is using IOS just like apple

>>106291783
You should get at least a 70% discount if you buy anything cisco in meaningful quantities

>>106256463 (OP)
leaving your door slightly open with all the lights out and sit waiting naked with two flashbangs and a special cocktail of viagra and cocaine

>>106292649
They get you on the licensing anyway.

>>106261271
kek

Bought some low-end 4MP outdoor POE Axis cameras hooked up to my old PC and a 4TB SSD firewalled off from the ‘net. $450 a pop but I hate Chinks

>>106256463 (OP)
frigate with all cams on an internet blocked vlan.

>>106289629
I run a Raspberry Pi 4b with OpenWRT, so I can't in good faith tell you to buy something I haven't used. You can't buy it off the shelf obviously.

I don't recommend using a Pi personally, it's overkill for a home network even with SQM and other management. I just had it laying around.

It fits my uses as I don't have access to very high speed internet, so the USB 3.0 dongle I use as an WAN port does everything I need it to do, up to 700 Mbit/s or something. idr.

Look up what routers have good HW support for whatever flavor of firmware you want to run. Tomato is more noob friendly. DD-WRT/OpenWRT is gonna let you do anything you want, but you need to either have knowledge or be ready to google and read wikis, and learn some basic networking.

I don't know what the state of WiFi support is for OpenWRT in particular, so make sure it works well for that model if you're buying a wifi capable router. I just use access points instead of having a router that does 20 million things.

>>106292384
Kek
hmm Nintendo used IOS too
maybe there's really a trend here

>>106289904
are the m.2 ones worth it? are they as powerful as the USB ones? found the Coral G650-04527-01 at the same price as in the US. I could buy a couple of units for fun.

>>106288919
based

Like 6 years ago I bought a wifi camera system with 4 cameras. They are still working, but the wifi system never worked well. Had to play around a lot to get them working. Have two camera connected to a paired wifi router, which only job is to communicate with the other router, then that is hard wired to the camera box. Best method is to hard wire all cameras with power over ethernet.

>>106260527
>that image
kek'd

>>106260164
lmao frigate fucking sucks bro

>>106272194
>did you hear that?
>what?
>thought was a bang or something
>na

lmao you think your neighbors getting up over 2 bangs

>>106288296
Most criminal behavior is vandalism, then thievery. Before your car is broken into it is more likely it will be hit by something by a kid passing by for kicks. In both cases I've found no one looks around for cameras. Cause most of the crime isn't well planned. Just opportunity. Oh I see something in that car I want! Oh, look a nice cool looking rock, I want to throw it at something!

My dogs really don't like strangers and will bark even just from hearing the neighbors, their ears or smell are good enough to know when someone outside is nearby even if they make no sound I can hear. So I'd know before the attacker is even trying to get inside the building, why would I want a security camera? I know a lot about artery locations from planning out how to kill myself the day I finally decide to, so I'd either slash the one in my neck or try to slash one in the attacker's body depending on how much copium I ate today

>>106298111
Wifi cameras are a joke it's trivial to jam wifi

>>106298308
Generally it is good to record criminal behavior. Sure your dog barked at them, but you want to see how it is and have record of it.

>>106298323
This isn't some advanced techcom criminal. It is just street scum. But yeah any obstruction and they suck.

>>106298332
>Generally it is good to record criminal behavior. Sure your dog barked at them, but you want to see how it is and have record of it.
I don't really have a need for records because the cops in my country would be more likely to hurt me themselves if I call them than to help me, would be useless as evidence in court if I kill an attacker in self defense too, because the courts would sentence me regardless and all the media would lie about it and intentionally never mention my video evidence :)

But ig knowing what kind of profile is trying/tried to enter would be perhaps useful, I don't really live in an area where thiefs have the balls to do anything other than pickpocketing and trying to rob sneakily though, it'd be very unlikely for them to not back out when they realized my loud dogs alerted me if I'm home and will probably grab the attention of at least one of the neighbors

>>106298494
One piece of advice I got from a cop. He talked about how cops do shady things and know judges personally to influence decisions. He said some things that cops got to watch their backs on. First is politics, so something hits the news they got to dot their i's and cross their t's. But a big one is insurance. If you have good insurance the insurance companies can fuck cops cause they have money for good lawyers to get to the bottom of things. So that's the best thing you can do for yourself is be well insured.

>>106298522
I don't really value my life or things enough to insure anything, I simply know to kill myself if I ever get in a situation like that, I'd be a nice push to finally get that done anyway.

I also don't think it's possible at all for someone like me to win against the legal system, past experiences already made it clear to me that I'm de facto subhuman legally and societally, they could easily get to bypass even the court case happening at all.

For me security just entails trying my best to be left alone and having the means to quickly delete myself if it fails, so my stranger hating dogs + emergency suicide set up works just fine

>>106298161
you must imagine some american-tier building, fren. it's a reinforced frame, bolted to concrete. it's not highest security class, but there still will be some real (de)construction work needed before it goes down.

>>106299341
>it's a reinforced frame,

lmao reinforced with what? go on tell us what your door frame is reinforced with

at the end of the day it's held on with like 5mm of the door lock in a little hole in the frame

You home security system should have some type of continuous power and mobile internet back up system in case the power or internet goes down intentionally or accidentally. I think some ISP's offer such packagages for modems with backup battery and 5g internet

>>106288919
Post link of said powerful IR array

>>106300055
No

>>106304416
That's concentrated laser not large array of infrared leds with a wide spread.

>>106304783
just make sure your camera is good at tracking people
or add little actuators that will shake the laser so it has more spread

>>106256463 (OP)
Buy a big dog

>>106305113
Sounds stupid.

>>106298585
>emergency suicide set up works just fine
Well then pic related, anon.

>>106285469
I recognise those blocks, SWAT is on their way

>>106306552
Meh I'm marked as a subhuman on medical records and there isn't really a black market for guns where I live so I can't get a shotgun, my plan of slashing the artery of my neck with a knife works just fine and is cheap, with the added benefit of possibly traumatizing people

>>106306745
Reminds me of the video of the one guy committing suicide with a knife. He cut his wrists and slowly bleed out. He wondered what his parents would think given he had blood all over the place. Last thing he said he was getting cold and had to stop so he could upload the video before he died. It was sad.

>>106306850
Yeah the gun is quicker. If I didn't have a gun I would just jump off something really high. A friend told me he would jump and shoot himself as he was jumping off, to make sure.

>>106306837
Eh dying from cutting veins is rare, you sure he didn't survive like most who try it that way? The thing with veins is they close themselves before you bleed enough unless you get in a hot tub or something and even then it's still unreliable, that's why I'd go for an artery, though cutting an artery is pretty much an instant blackout so I wouldn't get to think about anything

>>106306850
God I wish I had a gun

>>106306983
Why not just diy it? If a diy gun was able to kill shinzo abe surely it's not that difficult to make one powerful enough for suicide

>>106306960
Dude was dripping a lot of blood on the floor and had a trail two room long. Yeah he died.

>>106307009
I guess with enough cutting it's possible, what a horrible way to die though artery is the patrician's choice, I'd also consider disembowelment but even samurai failed at it often and needed to be killed off by someone else so idk if I can trust myself to pull it off.

Getting back on the topic of technology I have been thinking of designing ridiculous automated suicide machines, like a gun held tight in something with its trigger pressed by a finger-like robot several times after getting the command to do so. The user would be expected to strap themselves to something first so that the body stays in aim after the first shot, I guess voice activation would be ideal. I'd do it with easy to get things and publish an article about the process so that my design can be reused and improved on, of course I'd be the first user myself, maybe I should have my test run recorded and automatically uploaded

>>106307141
I said I can't get a gun previously but with this contraption a basic diy gun should be able to kill me, though I guess I'll have to make a version of the design that employs several guns since making multi-shot diy guns is more complicated. Obviously the source code for the software parts will be AGPL licensed, not sure about which license to use for the contraption's design

>>106307176
>>106307141
Sounds like the Futurama suicide booth.

>>106307189
I don't think there's any country that would let me turn it into a commercial product so it shall stay diy, but who knows maybe long after I'm dead some startup will get permission in Switzerland or something to make a polished version of the firing squad 3000 into a commercial suicide machine used in clinics

>>106307397
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarco_pod

>>106307430
I know about that, the main problem for commercialization of my design in Switzerland would be the guns, I guess it'd be possible but would mean a lot more paperwork and permits