Thread 106256990

Why is xlibre attacked? What's the drama about?

>>106256990 (OP)
XLibre is centrist and for far left anyone who isn't far left is a nazi.

>>106257050
why is politics even taken into account? It's a technical project.

>>106257065
Because that's how they (Redhat, Gnome etc people) work. XLibre said anyone can join (including russians (didn't they get ban from a project) and such) and that they don't want politics (BLM, LGBT, pride month etc... spreading). For them these make anyone into literal Hitler.

>>106257065
Have you read their website?

>>106256990 (OP)
>Throw some inflammatory conspiracy theories about organizations around
>People take issue with you
Woah.

>>106257159
These fags are seething because Debian didn't include a project that isn't even 1 year old into Trixie. Some also demand that distros should replace xorg with xlibre right away instead of offering it as an alternative, they're absolutely deranged.

>>106257159
>"inflammatory conspiracy theories"
tell, other than the "HDR" meme, what can wayland do that X11 can not? They keep pushing on the idea that wayland is the future and cannot be stooped, but never stop and consider why wayland needs to be stopped in the first place.
the wayland animals go around proudly shouting "no use case", "wayland is just a protocol, it doesn't do that", and other deflections instead of admitting their incompetence and abandoning their failed project. no, you see, waylnad isn't wrong broken, it's all the applications that are, apparently.

and don't get me started on the "security" propaganda. at least xlibre has xnamepsace. what mechanism does wayland have to allow certain programs access to the screen while denying others? the rather hilarious solution wayland worshipers came up with is to bypass this "security" (restriction) using dbus, fucking dbus of all things. waylanders are literally too dumb to understand that restrictive != secure. i

(1/2)

the main issue with the piece of shit is it being force pushed by the filthy gnome(IBM/Redhat) child rapists, in an attempt to satiate their need for rape and destroy the linux desktop once and for all. for fuck's sake, gnome maps pulls in geoclue (a google spyware library that tracks your location) and starts using it, while never asking for user consent. the whole gnome "ecosystem" reeks of this "we know better than our users" attitude, fucking applel iOS levels of babysitting

when you push people hard enough, they tend to push back.

now here's the beauty of it all: in the wake of xlibre gaining some momentum, the retards were forced to create wayback, a an x11 implementation that uses wayland as nothing more than a hardware abstraction layer, further proving and cementing the idea the that the useful protocol that should be used isn't wayland, but x11
(2/1)

what i dont like of wayland is their solution:

dbus
pipewire
pipewire-pulse
wireplumber
compositor interal ipc
varlink
policykit

most of them could have been prevented if we had a proper Linux IPC instead we have spaghetti IPC.

>>106257095
>XLibre said anyone can join (including russians
that's a big mistake
third worlders are going to poison it with backdoors, miners and trojans.

>>106257469
>the wayland animals go around proudly shouting "no use case"
...like you're doing with HDR?

>>106257738
>HDR
wayland doesn't provide HDR its the compositor

>>106257738
yes, precisely, but for window positions, window priorities, screen recording, and a hardware mouse, among other features actually used by most people :)

and here's something to thing about: there are no technical reasons for xlibre not to support it; for x11 is extensible, but your boys have stopped it's development proudly claiming "Xorg is dead and we killed it. And nobody regrets it". so even tho it's not even a standard yet, and cannot be seen on most "HDR" monitors because they are not nearly bright enough, it can be implemented, and eventually could be. or maybe we can just run hdr content inside a wayland kiosk compositor (the very thing it was designed for) in a window under a normal desktop that works, and pass the output directly to the screen. there is absolutely 0 (zero) reason to subject yourself to wayland

>>106256990 (OP)
It chudded out
First reply is coping

>>106256990 (OP)
whats xlibre?

>>106257050
>"is a nazi"
>Cleansing kikes is le bad because... it just is! ok? >:(
Sure, whatever you say rabbit without a t :)

>>106257956
xOrg, but not controlled/stifled by RedHat

Maintainer is a retard who doesn't even know C

>>106256990 (OP)
see https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/4

if this doesn't illuminate the fact the metux faggot can't code, I don't know what to tell you. enjoy your broken shitware.

>>106258167
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/pull/56

here's another stinky.
again, you're a dumb nigger faggot if you trust this software.

>>106258182
>>106258167
LMAO, the idiots who switched to this shitware is finding out first hand why Enrico got banned from freedesktop

I shall start posting this in every xlibre thread from now on

>>106257065
Hrt does this to codetrannies

>>106258216
>Xorg
Easily rebutted by the fact Xorg doesn't want development in X11, they just want bugs fixed for XWayland. Of course actually developing X11 is going to introduce more bugs, it's software.

>>106258279
>Of course actually developing X11 is going to introduce more bugs
Not if you're not retarded like Enrico, he got filtered by meritocracy

>>106258302
I meant "sure if you're retarded like Enrico"

>>106257682
In that case they should range ban all of America

I hate to interject with /pol/ shit, but
>>106257682
If russian script kiddies will manage to backdoor xlibre, the project unironically will deserve it (shitty maintainers unable to audit pull request should get the rope). Also it's ukrainians with a history of installing backdoors in foss against muh 403 country and using (You) to ddos nigger slavs, but noooo, le ebil russians, le third worlders!111
>muh hohols are third worlders too, subhuman vatnik
Then fork the codebase under a new license, which outright says that if you were born or live in certain countries you are forbidden from interacting with the code or any binaries from that code in any way. That's not political whatsoever, it's just unironic common sense, after all.

>>106258302
>he got filtered by meritocracy

>>106258216
>ABI breakage
yea like the introduction of Wayland was not an ABI breakage such hypocrites, also why are they not reverting all the commits he did?

If you follow any development you will see reverts all the time even the most stall project has reverts of one liners

>>106258302
>>106258351

>>106258353
>yea like the introduction of Wayland was not an ABI breakage
Well yeah that's exactly why they wanted to start fresh, cause it's hard to fix anything in Xorg without breaking something else, the thing is so old every bug or quirk it has is being depended on by something, remember when they tried not hardcoding the DPI or something and broke everything?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_ossification

>>106258353
>I don't know what I'm talking about.
Ya, see? Only absolute retards care about XLibre or X.org shit.

How can you post this and not know what an ABI is and why in a software as diversely (version, build flags, systems) spread out would need stable abi? Break x abi and now mouse input doesn't work, etc. Wayland does not "break" this abi either stupid fuck.

>>106258351
>>106258361
>>106258365
Good anti-Red Hat shill bugspray

>>106258377
>it's hard to fix anything in Xorg without breaking something else
>let's just BREAK EVERYTHING!*
>*without offering alternatives to existing functionality for over 15 years

>>106258379
yet you defend the most insane ecosystem of incompatible compositors that has broken the linux desktop into guerrillas
i call hypocrite.

>>106258407
>>*without offering alternatives to existing functionality for over 15 years
You could've done something about it and contributed but no, all you can do is whine and moan anonymously on 4channel

Is xlibre supposed to be the woke project excluding others? Or is it the meritocratic project that allows any good code to be merged?
I feel like the claims here in this thread are conflicted.
I'm not a fascist, nor am I politically right, but excluding fascists from contributing to code is itself discrimination.

>>106258430
its all about control those that don't fall in line will be marked as fascist don't fall into their rhetoric.
they will kick their own wayland devs just if you dare to question the status quo or freedesktop.

>>106258430
>some retard got banned from freedesktop cause he kept breaking shit
>he sperged out and claimed that he was banned for made up reasons
>injected his politics into his fork and proceeds to keep breaking shit
That's the tl;dr

>>106258454
>only one side is allowed to speak about politics
sure bro

>>106258425
Done something about what? Wayland being a pile of shit? Why would I waste my time making contributions to an obvious corporate divide-and-conquer project when I can keep using X instead?

>>106258463
What happened to keeping it politics free?

>>106258216
This. the xlibre dev is a retarded shitter. When this drama was first popping of his supporters highlighted how he had made "hundreds" of commits in 2024 alone. X is complicated legacy software, not really the kind of project that would result in hundreds of commits per year from one solo dev if the code quality and fixes were good.

>>106258454
I honestly hope Red Hat pays you to post this shit 24/7. Doing it for free must be a pretty miserable existence

>>106258452
>>106258454
The thing is, those in power will always have an excuse to kick someone. Even when they themselves suffer from the same criticism.
Just look at the whole bcachefs dev having his file system threatened to be removed from the kernel for being toxic in the kernel mailing list. Sure he may have been toxic but that piece of shit hypocrite linus himself is probably the most toxic of them all. He's in power so no one will kick him for doing what he threatens to remove others for.

>>106256990 (OP)
here is a quick recap.
>xorg became incredible bloated over the years because previous administrations were more interested in receiving help from big video card companies, so they allowed them to just do whateverthey wanted as long it worked
>this shitshow created an extremely difficult software to maintain.
>on top of that, xorg has some serious issues with security, or better saying, lack of security (it pretty much enable keyloggers and screen recorders and there is no easy way to prevent this)
>in 2008, a lot of xorg developers that were pissed off with xorg decided that it was not worth trying to fix the "sick man of linux" and started wayland, a protocol, extremely strict, that would not only solve Xorg problems but also prevent the same sickness.
>many years of project and development later, Wayland came to production, and pissed off a lot of people because it simple was too limiting (to this day some developers still need to do some dangerous workarounds)
>but, over the years, wayland was becoming better and better and xorg worse and worse by design because the current administration saw no point in keeping Xorg development active since 88% of the desktop users already use Wayland on modern DE.
>not everyone was happy with that. Some schizos grew really upset with xorg not allowing new features and accepting only bug fixes, and so they decided to fork xorg, but in the process, they made it extremely politicised (what a surprise). And because Xlibre was openly hostile to Xorg, the Xorg administration just blacklisted them from the project and, worst of all, ignored their cries. And everyone knows what happens when you ignore a schizo. They play victim...

Fact of the matter is that Wayland is not made for the Linux Desktop, it's made for RedHat's GNOME.

>>106257065
pronouncing you're not interested in politics is considered a political move by "certain people"

>>106258467
>NOOOO! HOW AM I SUPPOSED BEHAVE WITHOUT A CoC IN THE REPO?
Have you tried not being a sociopath?

>>106258490
>screen recording is a security issue
Are you getting paid per (You), Red hat shill?

>>106258507
What a complete non sequitur, you guys are mentally ill

>>106258467
It's about keeping the wrong kind of politics out. Like when a convicted child rapist canonical employee banned xlibre from debian because the auther is a "nazi" or when it was banned from alpine for similar reasons by the fat tranny head dev

>>106258490
>grew really upset with xorg not allowing new features and accepting only bug fixes
This is a genuine grievance though. So the x.org foundations was basically letting the code die. Why would anyone fault any developer for wanting to salvage a massive codebase like that? Regardless of the fact that they're schizos, if they do good development, why does their personality matter? Let them cry all they want and we reap the rewards of a better xorg server.

>>106258491
KDE too will drop xorg support next year.
XFCE already has experimental wayland support and is talking about removing xorg support in the future (their development is really slow; aparently this is a thing for DEs that are made to look like you are in the early 2000)
Even ricers embrance wayland at this point.

And on top of that, NVIDIA and AMD already announced they will not be releasing new drivers to xorg for any new products.

>>106258524
>wrong kind of politics
So it's only ok if you're doing it? What a hypocrite

>>106258533
>if they do good development
But they don't, Enrico got banned because he kept breaking shit

>>106258523
>A: You don't need CoC to act normal
>B: Y-YOU'RE MENTALLY ILL
Why do you keep projecting so hard?

>>106258490
>ignore a schizo
>bans him out its platform
you ether ignore it or not get your shit straight

>>106258537
>their development is really slow; aparently this is a thing for DEs that are made to look like you are in the early 2000
Yeah, I wonder why it's only the corpo-backed DEs that can actually maintain a Wayland compositor
Staying with X11 makes more sense for an OS divided into multiple desktops like Linux or BSDs. I use LxQt and I'm not ever gonna switch to Wayland. Sorry bub.

>>106258540
that pic only shows him removing political statements, not adding his own.
Wanting a technical project to be apolitical is not, in itself, a political statement.

>>106258519
>let me record your browser without your consent.
Fuck off you filth kike.

>>106258557
>breaking shit on the development branch
where's the issue?

>>106258557
He got banned because he was actively adding new code, instead of only "fixing bugs" like RedHat wanted him to. Breaking shit is part of life.

>>106258575
>where's the issue?
You're downplaying it, sure mistakes happen but apparently he kept breaking shit, _constantly_, do you get why they had to remove him now?

>>106258573
Have you tried not installing malware on your computer? You know sandboxing X.org apps is already possible through Xephyr and other nested servers, right?
Again, Red Hat shills prove themselves to be complete retards who never used Linux except for Docker VM on their fagbooks

>>106258563
>banning someone is not ignoring him
What exactly do you think "ignoring someone" would mean? allowing him to open 10 issues a day like he was doing just to complain about how he was right and you were wrong? Nahhh, get your shit out of here, nigger. We don't want to see your kind here.

>>106258586
What's the issue with breaking shit constantly on a non-stable branch?

>>106258588
>Have you tried not installing malware on your computer?
Say this to Israel, who has been caught more than once injecting malware into open-source repositories.
>You know sandboxing X.org apps is already possible through Xephyr and other nested servers, right?
It's fucking garbage. You know it because you are not using it.

>>106258573
>without your consent
Who installed the software?

>>106258596
>We don't want-
nobody cares what Red Hat shills have to say about free software projects
you're getting your shit forked and you can't do anything about it

>>106256990 (OP)
Metux is a retard. That's why.

>>106258600
Where do you think stable branch comes from?

>>106258600
non stable branchs still have to work you gorillanigger

It's good X11 was forked, "Freedesktop" is a joke of a name considering the companies behind it aren't actually interested in the desktop experience.
As Poettering said many years ago, RedHat's objective is so solidify all distros into one big RedHat-defined standard that distro developers can make shallow modifications to. The Linux community that understands that corporations shouldn't be trusted (if you're a windows refugee you especially should have no problems with this) should by all means distance ourselves from Xorg, Wayland, and any other RedHat garbage

Like many other have noticed even wayland compositor devs have expressed, wayland is made for the big guys aka Gnome to enable them to rain the desktop sphere without competition.
How many DE we have on wayland now compared to before? i answer it KDE and Gnome, no other can keep up with the monumental task to create a whole compositor and as some wayland devs expressed no one will meaning your wayland ecosystem is going to be composed of Gnome and KDE plus the broken wlroots jokes that are not DEs

Funny how the ones that proclaim diversity as their standard made the most hostile environment for developers in decades.

The thing I don’t get about Wayland is it breaks shit that didn’t need to be broken and removes standard features for no reason whatsoever. It would be understandable if their workflow was consistent but it took them 6 years to implement HDR and they did it in the most half assed way possible. They refuse to implement common sense features like having programs launch on the primary monitor, and their argument is always just something like “we’re just a protocol” or “uhm what’s the use case for having two monitors???”.

Just insufferable.

>>106258626
>you can't do anything about it
No one has to, Enrico is doing a good job breaking shit on his fork already

>>106258640
Cherry-picking commits from development. You think they just merge the entire branch?

>>106258642
All those "Build: Failing" tags I see in readmes all over Github say otherwise

>>106258614
>injecting malware into open-source repositories
again, have you tried not installing malware on your PC? You know Wayland is not going to protect you against LD_PRELOAD attacks or other malware in the shared libraries it uses?
>It's fucking garbage
skill issue

>>106256990 (OP)
>This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed.

>It doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your political views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just a boring average person. Anybody who's interested in bringing X forward is welcome.

>Together we'll make X great again!

They thought they could allow leftists in and just avoid politics lmao

I'll just continue using Xenocara.

>>106258673
He's doing a great job making Red Hat shills seethe with rage since he's shown that their favorite company's employees are completely worthless at developing a functional alternative to X11

horee shee they got it working on FreeBSD already

>>106256990 (OP)
The Jews are trying to force gayland in any way they can

>>106257381
rust did it why cant xlibre?

Remember that this is a far right post for them

>>106258678
>being so contrarian he is actually defending pushing shit broken commits
Goddamn what a pathetic cesspool this place has rotten into, where did you morons come from?

>>106258724
If you have a development branch breakage should be expected on that. If you look at the commit history on their dev branch they routinely revert shit (as do many projects) so they seem to have that expectation just fine.

Mentioning DEI in the readme was like pointing a loaded shotgun to your crotch and pulling the trigger. That move killed X forever, relegating it to niche distros.
This is fucking linux. Linus is a woke sperg. Redhat and other companies have actual DEI pages. Gnome installed 2SLGBTMAP+ wallpapers on everyone's machine. The overwhelming majority of western devs qualify as "far left". Giving these "people" free ammo with that retarded README doomed X forever.

Maybe the trannies complaining about /pol/ were right, you retards are fucking incompetent morons. All you had to do was just make a normal fucking readme and not make contributing to the project a red flag to employers.

>>106258764
>No, you don't get it, software is all about having the right opinion in READMe and a CoC
Have you tried sharing this opinion with your friends over at >>>/lgbt/?

>>106258764
you VIL use 1 approved file system
you VIL use 1 approved bootloader
you VIL use 1 approved initialization system
you VIL use 1 approved desktop environment
you VIL use 1 approved distro
und you VIL be DEPRECATED WONTFIX

>>106256990 (OP)
because its dev is an incompetent piece of trash
all the people who are like "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" are weird
I hate gnome, red hat, ibm etc as much as everyone else but the writing is on the wall when it comes to a project maintained by someone who doesn't know what he's doing

>>106258842
>I hate gnome, red hat, ibm etc as much as everyone else
kek, you guys are pathetic

We need to fork all of FreeDesktop

>>106258764
Something similar happened to PolyMC. Changed a term in the CoC and everyone went nuts, throwing accusations and bullshitting about it being malware for quite some time. Those people are generally malicious and as things stand right now, the far left dominates this landscape and they can do whatever they please. Rightoids don't care about optics so they never get what they want and end up looking unhinged.

>>106258800
>software is all about having the right opinion in READMe and a CoC
For 90% of the linux community, yes. See GItHub, the Fedora forums, most other linux distro forums, X, gayddit, orange gayddit, YouTube.
You faggots suck dick at taking over communities. Trannies at least code and make shit, which is why they don't allow xlibre into their distros. All you people do is make posts here and pretend everything is great when Xlibre is like 2 niggas slaving away for a dead-end product.
>>106258860
Rightoids are delusional into thinking people are on their side. It's how they lost Linux and everything else in tech.

>>106257065
That's what we all thought before the modern far left came along.

>>106258875
>muh social media sites
don't care, didn't ask
>pretend everything is great
it's great that a few talented individuals are sending Red Hat shills to the ER by forking their EEE project, yes
>when Xlibre is like 2 niggas slaving away
what, are you mad that a few people can outdo some shitty IBM-backed corpo?
>dead-end product
it's called "software", not "product"
I know it may be kind of hard for Red Hat shills to tell the difference since they're this deranged, but it's there

>>106258875
I made a window manager and complain about Wayland so you wrong

>>106258194
doesn't matter if the other people fix these issues and he just merges
sometimes a leader might be incompetent (like managers are)
the thing that matters is that it's independent from corpo influence
most projects work distribution is very uneven and there are outliers that do 100x more
this guy convinced people that forking can be done and that people don't need to accept the status quo
it doesn't matter that he is not able to do make it himself if the people come and help
the important factor is a catalyst, he showed up and exposed how bad these guys from Xorg are
often competent people are too shy to come up, don't want to be put into spotlight or have dunning kruger
but if they are not the one getting attention they might come up and do the work

who cares about politics, xlibre devs can't recognize a xor operator.

>>106258924
>what, are you mad that a few people can outdo some shitty IBM-backed corpo?
The retard who got mocked to death by trannies for not knowing what XOR is is outdoing IBM? If you say so, buddy.
>>106259100
>the thing that matters is that it's independent from corpo influence
Which means it won't last very long in the modern linux landscape.
>but if they are not the one getting attention they might come up and do the work
No they won't. Contributing to xlibre now will make you persona non grata to every other discussion. The anti-xlibre sentiment is so much greater than then pro-xlibre sentiment that you'd be a fool to associate with that nuclear waste project.

>>106259190
Again, no one cares what Red Hat dickriders have to say about X11 getting forked. You're going to see a competing X server whether you like it or not

>>106258858
None of you know anything about programming apparently, best to just resign yourself to using the trannywares you hate so much

>>106258507
Ableism is specifically banned by your COC.
Now say sorry.

>>106258924
>outdo
You're delusional, Enrico doesn't even know C and eventually you too are gonna get sick of him breaking your shit

>>106258182
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/375
Hi Ariadne! <33333

>>106259284
No one is going to take xlibre seriously until someone competent takes over

>>106259471
no one is going to take wayland seriously

>>106259471
New project an you already want a coup

>>106257381
Hi Jeremy Bicha https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=85068 I know that you are a debian dev

>>106259329
they make the coc, not follow it, anon

Schizo fork, next.

>>106258534
any info on his cousins ?
does he have any problematic ancestors or relatives ? what about the neighbors ?
Please investigate futher.

>>106259346
idk who that is, stop acting like a schizo faggot. I'm not using the shitty fork.

>>106258194
why are we making fun of someone for trying again?

>>106259743
Your post got me thinking, I use Xorg and it already works and never gives me trouble, so what exactly is Enrico trying to do? Why is he breaking something that is already stable?

>>106257096
You mean their readme on github? Looks fine to me.
You know, it's a bit hard for me to understand the struggle from people with other gender preferences or races but I think I know a bit more than average about gays since one of my best friends is one but even he doesn't understand the need to plaster his sexual preference to the world and the weird "need" for people to know it.
From a historical perspective it makes sense, the norm is a cisgendered straight male so there's no need to proclaim it to the world, people just assume you are one because well... it's the norm. But is it really necessary to be so loud about it if you're not? Do you feel dread and misery when you don't see a trans flag on every single software you use just like I feel when I see one? Is the absence of your political views in a project the same thing as the perpetuation of the oppression you feel? I don't think I can ever understand because I'm not one of them, but it feels so weird.
The whole black, gay or women's liberation movements make a lot of sense to me, you were considered subhuman in many areas of life if you were one of those and I'm sure a bit of it still exists today just because of the fact people in power will always want to remain there but man... do you really think you're making a difference by shoving your ideology on every single place? My father hated gays, always did, he changed his mind after one of his oldest friends turned out to be one and he realized that gays werent that bad. I think the best cure of bigotry or whatever they call it is coexistence, sharing the same places, and so on. Not shoving stuff on places where politics shouldn't even be a thing.

>>106257095
literally half of the xlibre devs are russians
>>106258573
hello matrixfag

>>106259471
No one takes Wayland seriously either

>>106258361
lmao

>>106258764
Eventually people will forgot about it, but I agree it was a dumb move. There was already enough publicity by getting banned by red hat. Zero reason to put any more targets on your back.

>>106258351
Nobody in Greece is named Jordan. You can't hide from your denbts.

https://youtu.be/L-SvG12QsUM

>>106258764
You are dumb. The far leftists at red hat decided over a decade ago that x11 has to die and they worked hard to kill it. No matter how much you try to make a non-political fork of xorg server, they will refuse to adopt it. They have already branded x11 users as far right, just read this: https://archive.ph/YuqK4

>>106258490
>>106258573
You can record the screen on any wayland compositor as well without any permission, since they all use internal compositor specific protocol for use with their desktop portal. This protocol has no security and no user permission required to be used. The user permission is implemented in the desktop portal, not the wayland compositor. So you can just use the wayland protocol directly in a program and record the screen on wayland compositors.
Not to mention that any program on wayland can read the clipboard, so if you use keepass or a similar password manager on wayland and copy password to clipboard (since wayland doesn't allow a program to type text like on x11) then any program can steal your password, without any user permission. Xlibre protects against this with xnamespace

>>106258557
>But they don't, Enrico got banned because he kept breaking shit
No, stop making shit up. No reason was given for a ban. The person that banned him is a far left retard that just hates enrico for his political views and decided to ban him for that, and closed all of his pull requests, even the ones that improves xorg server security and privacy

>>106258673
Xorg server master branch is actually more broken than Xlibre master branch right now. Nobody that is working on xorg server is bothering fixing shit and they dont test anything.

>>106258216
Also this >>106258351

They lied to you all this time and you are still defending them. How gullible one can be.

Man this is the kind gay political shit among FOSS trannies that nobody uses loonix
I don't blame people for not putting up with this shit on top of the fact that loonix doesn't work in the first place.

>>106257469
>tell, other than the "HDR" meme, what can wayland do that X11 can not?
Display hot-plugging, better scaling between different display sizes, mixed refresh rates between monitors, reduced latency, better touchscreen support, makes xorg and bsd trannies mad.

>>106262296
>reduced latency
>the protocol that's effectively DDoSed by rapid mouse movement -_-
Oh please...

>>106262323
>This software had ONE(1) bug that is fixed now! UNACCEPTABLE!!!1!!
why not cry about it more?

>>106257469
Wayland IS the future, it will just always be the future and will never become a present

>>106262449
Well said; hear! hear!

>>106262296
>Display hot-plugging
xorg can do it
>mixed refresh rates between monitors
xorg can do it
>reduced latency
xorg without compositor has better latency
in wayland, you have to run a compositor
>better touchscreen support
in case you want to use a tablet DE because 99.999% of all Linux touchscreens run Android
>better scaling between different display sizes
oh yeah let me just 100%->200%->scale-down
lmao

>>106262359
>>This software
too retraded to even know what he's talking about, as with all wayland cuckolds. wayland is no a "software", it's a protocol. get your own terminology right; and that was just ONE example of the countless shit you cucks have to endure. tell me, can you write a program and have it position one window to the right of the other? what about having different keymaps for multiple physical keyboards?

XLibre is perpetual motion technology made manifest. Infinite energy from retards pushing buttons on their keyboards arguing with imaginary people.

>106262513
>Display hot-plugging
>xorg can do it
No, it can't. Xserver restarts
>mixed refresh rates between monitors
>xorg can do it
Have a 244hz and 60hz monitor and have them both operate at full refresh rate.
>reduced latency
>xorg without compositor has better latency
Screen tearing looks gay.
>in wayland, you have to run a compositor
In life, (you) have to try not being such a faggot.
>better touchscreen support
>in case you want to use a tablet DE because 99.999% of all Linux touchscreens run Android
Or if you want to use the touchscreen on like the 80% of laptops on the market that have one.
>better scaling between different display sizes
>oh yeah let me just 100%->200%->scale-down
You didn't refute that scaling between displays is better.
>>106262560
>wayland is no a "software", it's a protocol.
Nigger you don't run a protocol, you run software, software sometimes complies with and uses protocols.
If you run into a bug, it's the software that has the bug.
Quit acting like a poindexter and "um actually" when you're wrong.

>>106262722
>it's the software that has the bug.
not when every implementation is dogshit, then you have to look at the common denominator; get bent

>>106262737
>not when every implementation is dogshit, then you have to look at the common denominator; get bent
Just like x11

>>106262791
so you replaced aomething with something much worse; wow, you must feel so proud. so, I'll ask again: can you write a program and have it position one window to the right of the other? what about having different keymaps for multiple physical keyboards? tell me, cuckold, can your precious software that implements your gimped protocol do that. a simple yes or no.

>>106256990 (OP)
Why not?
It was weak.
By attacking it, it actually gets stronger (or dies).
The choice is up to xlibre.

>>106262791
>if I keep projecting Wayland's problems onto X11, someone will surely switch to it!
Are Red Hat shills retarded?

>>106258182
/thread

literally after seeing this i am no longer interested one bit in this shit.

i hate wayland because they made a bunch of retarded design decisions that make it just unusable (completely enforces a monolithic design by EVERY compositor, meanwhile on X my wm is 90% detatched from my other utilities so none of my scripts or anything break, AND i can write a wm in 20 lines of C with XLib). because of this, i was interested in anything that continues to support X into the future, but it turns out this is just a 15 year old nocoder who doesn't even recognize an xor getting caught up in some political drama on a mailing list and going "im gonna make my own Xorg, with blackjack and hookers!" (they're literally calling each other marxists and facists in a github pr LULE)

Xlibre used to pretend they were "le neutral" but now they have explicit anti-tranny material in the readme

>>106262891
which is a good thing

>>106258182
I don't trust him, but I trust RedHat and Freedesktop less

>>106262891
People have been attacked in the past for being anti-tranny when they were neutral.
That is the new neutral.

>>106262810
>>106262810
>so you replaced aomething with something much worse; wow, you must feel so proud.
Only (you) think it's worse
>so, I'll ask again: can you write a program and have it position one window to the right of the other?
Can you ask while not sounding like a total fag?
Not yet, but I'm sure it's coming, there's an open issue that's pretty active. You could also quit launching so many fucking windows for the same piece of software.
>what about having different keymaps for multiple physical keyboards?
Keyd and multiple xkb layouts work and work well on pretty much all Wayland compositors
>tell me, cuckold, can your precious software that implements your gimped protocol do that. a simple yes or no.
I don't treat software I don't write and only use as "precious", only homos like you seem to and project that behavior into others. Linux and all Unix-likes could disappear tomorrow and you type like you would kill yourself, which you should, but it's sad you're like this.

>>106262896
>>106262919
hey if you wanna use chudware that's cool but just know it's gonna be full of security holes and bugs

>>106262961
the correct answer was "no", you failed; cry some more

>>106262962
>-ACK!s in the middle of a commit
https://www.theregister.com/2025/08/06/aws_wipes_ten_years/

>>106262891
they literally have a tranny flag screenshot in the readme dumb shill.

>>106256990 (OP)
>My lines of code are better than yours!
Grow up, you fucking nerds.

>>106259190
I would rather be associated with non-woke project then woke. Thankfully people are tired of this woke nonsense. They won't be able to shame people for that anymore. People realized these cunts are the ones discriminating and no longer care. I see that woke nonsense as a tantrum of retarded child.

>>106263336
yes but they can get your github account banned and codeberg wont let you create an account, after that you have to self host

>>106259471
nobody cares about some baptism from corpo borpo
the fork either gets successful or not, no blessing needed
users will either come or not, that's for the user to decide
corpos want to control everything, but in FOSS users decide, fuck them
let them keep their mental wayland asylum for themselves
I'm not going to use it, I decide what I use on my computer
they missed the point if they want to shove their shit on linux users like on proprietary platform

>>106263383
github closing its door either way
they already assimilated it into Microsoft and it's no longer a distinct entity
one must be blind to not see github is no longer what it was
it will probably get more entrenched with MS ecosystem going forward
there are plenty of alternatives to github
where the forge resides doesn't matter in grand scheme of things
and the developers can use whatever they like for source control if it works for them
the project could even use frickin sourceforge, what matters to the users and packagers are the tarballs
not every project is open for contribution even if it's on github

>>106263631
you are just typing out monkey noises at this point. props for being more coherent than an xlibre dev, i guess.

>>106260714
>Nobody in Greece is named Jordan. You can't hide from your denbts.
kek, half-true, he's actually named Iordanis and can't hide from his denbts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Bn8sE0_ts

>>106256990 (OP)
>Why is xlibre attacked?
Because tribal collectivists hate it when people do with open-source software what it was designed for.

>What's the drama about?
Authoritarians think that egalitarianism is unacceptable political discrimination because they're incapable of understanding freedom as anything other than the oppression of their desire to censor.

>>106258860
>Rightoids don't care about optics so they never get what they want and end up looking unhinged.
Have ever thought about not sucking dick or not bending the knee for profit?

>>106258875
>Take over communities
Linux communities don't get taken over. It's always been a breeding ground for fags and autists. It's literally statistics that this happens.

>>106256990 (OP)
XLibre is LITERALLY a threat to LGBT and BIPOC peoples.

>>106264227
good

>>106264227
It measurably raised the rope stats?

>>106264227
calling them people is a bit of a stretch

>>106264283
Twitter/X. Thanks for letting us know you're a NAZI. Anyone who doesn't post on bluesky is a fascist, and all fascists should die.

>>106264311
The troon he capped posted on X buddy.

>>106261802
Why are you lying?

>>106264283
total hyprland death

>>106264311
Who hurt you that made you think that wishing death upon other people makes you the good guy, man? When did y'all lose yourselves and start talking like crusaders?

>>106258216
Fuck the ABI. There's no legitimate reason not to publish source.

>>106258425
>You could've done something about it
Oh look. Someone did and it's called xlibre.

> build wayshit
> it has the ideal format to ensure linux monopoly
> it's useless
> creates incompatibility when working around its uselessness
> kde is the firefox
> gnome is the chrome
> ready to kill linux or transform it into gnome os only
wayshit boycott plan
> NOOOOOOOOOO THE ABI
> *proceeds to kill xorg and force wayshit so the ABI won't matter anyways*
> theoretically because wayshit uses xorg codebase for x11 compatibility
Linux users are truly dumb huh? This is a pathetic boycott attempt and the retards are even shilling the boycott FOR FREE. kek

>>106257469
>what can wayland do that X11 can not?
Randomly position game windows and application subwindows for an unique and exciting desktop experience every time.

Making the general population obsessed with politics was a mistake. Everyone got brain damage now instead of just working together on projects

>>106258860
>Something similar happened to PolyMC
>Rightoids don't care about optics so they never get what they want and end up looking unhinged.
Yeah, so called "rightoids" who forked the project for trannies sake, right.

I use xlibre on my laptop and the only benefit ive noticed is being able to use tear free over the mate compositor, so I guess its doing its job. I really dont care if they hate niggers or trannies just keep it updated and secure so I don't have to use a different DE

>>106263809
Jordan stands in the pouring rain
Petridis counts the debts again
Greece is drowning in the pain
History repeats its chain

https://youtu.be/jeuDssLUOwY

Why would ABI matter in a fucking SERVER that your programs communicate with over a fucking unix socket? Holy shit trannies are unhinged.

>>106257682
>third worlders
as if mossad and their bitch CIA have not already done this
ban everyone

>>106268448
Aside from the server itself, there are gazillions of shared libraries used by clients, Xlib not least of all.

>>106268484
Ok and? Just recompile your program, you whiny bitch.

>>106264283
is this why bluesky activity has been gradually going down?

well whixh distros use the new X fork? I just want to avoid the nutters screaming 'Fascist' and 'nazi' every five seconds and i dont trust such people to not be total fuck ups.

>>106258490
>this program has things we don't like
>so we're going to do a COMPLETE 180 and make a new thing with an entirely different philosophy, but treat it as a replacement
>oh and you can't work on the old thing if you disagree
>also you're a schizo
Very convincing arguments from the same brilliant minds that brought us GNOME and its insistent reluctance to put in a system tray

- I am so sick of trannies
- I will fork Xorg because I hate wayland trannies
- Hey guys use XLibre it doesn't have trannies we only care about software
- See, they are attacking me for forking software, they think I hate trannies

Sad.

>>106268904
I personally don't hate trannies.

But im against transitioning, its a barbaric procedure that goes nowhere.
And putting making over your face doesn't make you a woman but a caricature of it for sure.

>>106268904
I personally hate trannies.

But im not against transitioning, its a barbaric procedure that leads to their suicide.
And putting making over your face doesn't make you a woman but a laughable caricature of it for sure.

>>106269356
You're just as mentally ill as doctors who not only allow this to happen, but actively suggest and perform these sickly procedures and I hope God is going to forgive you before you go to Hell.

>>106269378
>Thou shalt not insult the transvestite
Chapter and verse?

>>106269396
Proverbs 14:21

>>106269416
Try Leviticus 18:22, troon lover. It's actually on topic.

>>106269434
I don't care if someone is sick in the head and does this, God will decide what to do with them. Best I can do is try and guide them loosely. In the end, it's the choice of individual to behave a certain way, and much like the faggots, you are no better in this regard. I hope you will open your eyes before it is too late, and as one of the very few good christians, as an atheist, I will be praying for you to the entire universe even if I don't actually believe that it will help anyone.

>>106269461
>and as one of the very few good christians, as an atheist
You're a dumb faggot that doesn't know shit while cursing yourself with your parading for evil.

>>106269478
I'll let you in on a secret, the real hell happens while you live, and this hatred of yours is keeping you in one right now, your eyes are so burned out from the flames of resentment that you've become blind and numb to your own behavior that actively destroys your life, body, and mind.
You should try to do better than this.

>>106264311 see >>106268687
>>106268778
Artix is the only one atm offering installation isos, correct me if i'm wrong
https://artixlinux.org/download.php#testing

>>106269493
Silence yourself, redskirt faggot
>>106269502
XLibre is in the official Artix repos

>>106269521
Insulting me doesn't affect me, while it destroys your mind.

>>106258361
Wtf is this article even.
It's all just nazi nazi nazi and no argumentation or any substance at all

>>106269624
It's an example of a person that would go to Hell if God and Hell existed. But do not worry, they already are suffering every single day more than you can possibly imagine. It's honestly scary.

>>106256990 (OP)
>there are now 14 competing standards
And this one is just politically motivated so no one cares

>>106258490
You will never be a woman,

>>106258519
>>106258588
>>106258679
A song, just for you! :^)
https://files.fatbox.moe/l1jgp9.mp3

>>106270738
I want to nagasaki and hiroshima in Noa.

>>106258537
>XFCE going wayland
Qubes OS isn't going to like that!

>>106258659
>>106258653
>>106258647
Start making lists of major Gnome/Wayland/FreeDesktop contributors... to blacklist from hiring at your companies! They have proven their failures in design philosophies with the trash that is FreeDesktop!

>>106258764
The project should be otherwise politically agnostic, with an exception that anyone who agreed with the DEI policies of FreeDesktop in 2024 are constitutionally banned, trespassed, and prohibited from interacting with the project in any way. We need to not just be "agnostic," that would be giving the faggots a mulligan to fuck us again! No, we need to make sure DEI critters get the "le ebil nazi!" treatment that we got for years!

They made it political so we should keep only them out, for politics! Payback will be a bitch, I work to guarantee it!

>>106258537
>XFCE already has experimental wayland support and is talking about removing xorg
this is bs lmao. they don't even know if they'll fully switch to wayland yet, and they have no plans on dropping x11 anytime soon
https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap
>Long Term Goals
>It is not clear yet which Xfce release will target a complete Xfce Wayland transition (or if such a transition will happen at all). Below is a list of larger tasks which would need to be done in some way for such a transition to occur.
>Agreed guidelines
>Keep X11 compatibility for the foreseeable future
just read you dumb ape

>>106270900
My projects, when I get them off the ground, will have a couple of lines in the readme along the lines of
>there are two rules
>don’t be a jackass
>I do not know what you do outside of this project. I do not care what you do outside of this project. Talking about it will get you banned with extreme prejudice

>>106258361
>free palestine
Aren't nazis the most pro palestine anti israel people though.

>>106256990 (OP)
>Why is xlibre attacked?
Is it? Care to show any examples?