Thread 106269061

This garbage is now officially worse than crypto.

>>106269061 (OP)
>powergrid is a shitty joke
>THIS IS CRYPTOS FAULT!
>THIS IS AIS FAULT! (You are here)

So lobby to improve the power grid or make AI more efficient. They only have direct control over one option and brute forcing everything with MOAR POWAH is the retarded anyway.

chinamen again

>>106269061 (OP)
Surely OP, you bought or mined some bitcoin back when it it was shilled here and you don't need to wageslave. You are just shitposting from your mansion, right?

>>106269061 (OP)
If there's one thing that may threaten the US' hegemony, it's AI.

100k H100s is around 35GW when all run at full load, with some overhead for the servers, networking, cooling etc. let's say 45GW. What kind of grid at *state* level can't handle that?

>>106269142
>What kind of grid at *state* level can't handle that?

>>106269074
AI is going to create $300K EE jobs for White Men?

>>106269061 (OP)
Governments should tax datacenters by requiring that they make a percentage of their compute available for whatever project like protein folding or something less gay than LLMs.

All that for what
Social media astroturfing and poorly categorizing images?

>>106269159
>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAR WHAT ABOUT DA WHUITE MAAAAAAAAAAAN SAAAAAAAAAAR
Hey streetshitter this isn't twitter, you don't get paid to shit out your talking points here.

>>106269106
>just produce more power for llm slop
Fuck off

>>106269142
most of them actually

>>106269061 (OP)
>build in the middle of nowhere because its cheap
>no no the grid is le bad

>>106269142
>one H100 is 450kW with overhead
Check your numbers son. You're off by three orders of magnitude.

>kvetching
Oy veyyyy

the planners at every level was expecting, in line with projections, that power use would at most be stable but most likely declining due to continued deindustrialization even if household usage increased.
so that's probably why. it was not structured or ready for growth in anyway. presumably other countries did better but i have no idea

>>106269061 (OP)
Stop kvetching and just buy. The more you buy, the more you save.

Solar farms with batteries or small nuclear colocated with the datacenter. If you need to build a new high voltage grid connection to serve your datacenter that's too slow and costly due to permitting and NIMBY shit.

>>106269061 (OP)
>March 25th, 2024

>>106269061 (OP)
At this point why didn't they bother with a better infrastructure?

>>106269339
isnt that around the time the texas power grid failed because it snowed once

>>106269345
At this point why didn't they bother finding out a better way to distribute the training?

SMALL MODULAR REACTOR BROS JUST KEEP WINNING. WE WILL PUT A REACTOR ON EVERY CORNER!

>>106269061 (OP)
power grid is why EVs have failed too. they can't afford or handle all the charging stations needed.

every 3 months the power goes out for like 5 minutes and it affects the whole neighborhood

>>106269061 (OP)
they have so much money why not just build a nuclear reactor for your shitty data center?

>>106269443
That's what they want to do, they literally got this guy elected to he could reduce the red tape for building nuclear.

>>106269443
Where will they put le nuclear waste?

>>106269074
There's literally not enough coal, oil, natural gas or sunlight on the planet that can power these dumbass LLMs. They are the illusion of progress. We're not making faster, more efficient computers, we're just making bigger ones.

>>106269484
underground

>>106269061 (OP)
>GPT 6
>2024

huh?

>>106269484
Shoot that shit to the sun or the moon.

>>106269510
We need to build something smarter than us before we can make progress.

>>106269183
Why would an indian care about employment for american white men? r u retarded?

>>106269563
>r u retarded
you sure write like one.

>>106269061 (OP)
Remember anons, YOU are the carbon (((they))) want to offset.

Mistake not breaking up these companies. How can they pour in so much money for so little return.

>>106269061 (OP)
Just uh build your own power plant?

This AI shit is so stupid. The world is stupid. People will always fuck shit up and if they can't find a way to do it they will work at a ferverish pace to create new ways to fuck shit up. The only thing we're progressing toward is our own destruction.

>>106269262
>presumably other countries did better but i have no idea
It's worse outside of America

>>106269429
...no, that's because they cost too damn much and used ones are expensive to fix. If you could get say the Model 3 new for $20k things would be a lot different. There are other issues too like how manufacturers test the cars software on units that have been sold to customers already, or how they rely on electronics for stuff like door handles, but few people even know enough to care.
Now when the bans on sales of internal combustion engines hit, then failure might be blamed more on infrastructure.

>>106269581
Both those characters heads should be merchants.

>>106269711
>If you could get say the Model 3 new for $20k things would be a lot different.
you can get a brand new nissan leaf for 45k

>>106269711
>If you could get say the Model 3 new for $20k things would be a lot different
right, the powergrid would collapse

>>106269061 (OP)
do you think an FPV drone could carry one of these?

>>106269739
I think fed prisons can take one of you.

>>106269726
And that's still too much for what you get, if you want everyone to be driving those instead of gas cars and you're still giving people a choice.

>>106269759
could an fpv drone carry enough wire to induce a phase to phase short on a three phase transmission line?

>>106269760
a new civic is, in the same region, is 38k so the difference is basically 2 or 3 payments

Really grim that in this day and age, running a chatbot needs more power than a country can provide

>>106269798
i mean, birds sometimes do it and they dont carry wire at all

>>106269861
hypothetically could an fpv drone carry a moderate amount of fine graphite powder?

>>106269854
Really grim that people in general think this chatbots are a good use of electricity at all

>>106269061 (OP)
if they invested a tiny fraction of their money in modern magnonics instead we would have hardware capable running these ai models at 1/1000 the energy. Compared to quantum computing magnonics is already proven to work and doesn't need hand waving bullshit its just starved of funds.

>FPV FPV FPV FPV FPV!!!!!!!!!!
obsessed zoomer

>>106269879
I don't know what that is

>>106269911
do you really think it's a good idea to be within a non plausibly denial distance of a federal crime?

>>106269942
do you think that LE FPV is the only method of guidance ever, are you too stupid to know that even the destroyed drone will have evidence of its former links, are you brain broken by ukraine war memes

>>106269979
>do you think that LE FPV is the only method of guidance ever,
what's the alternative?
>are you too stupid to know that even the destroyed drone will have evidence of its former links
zoomie consoomie cattle doesnt understand drones were and still can be built from commodity components. there are no serial numbers on mass produced chink bldc motors, bldc escs, open source flight controllers on chink gd32 mcus, etc.

>>106269979
>>106270034
also there are no serial numbers on chink rf transmitters and receivers.

>>106270034
gps guidance, dead recokoning, dumb fire from long range, betting some hick 40$ he won't do it

also clearly you're a meme obsessed retard because
>LOL IM GONNA USE LE DJI DRONE TO DISTRIBTUE MICRON GRAFITE POWDAH!!!!
bird strikes can short these things

>>106269443
just takes way too long in red tape.
if trump and doge can kill off the inspections then it could be good.
they could bring it back - sold as reducing energy costs to bring back manufacturing and building energy plants. South Africa had cheap electricity in the past which made it a good manufacturing base.
but a problem with nuclear is that boomers are terrified of it. So it's bad for votes.

>>106269061 (OP)
I thought they were building their own nuclear stations?

>>106269198
Thank you coal lobby

>>106270050
>gps
gps accuracy is no better than like 5 feet which doesn't work when you're trying to target a 3" diameter conductor you retard.
>dead reckoning
lmao
>dumb fire
????

>>106269484
In your food

>>106269879
It's a grift anon. They don't want to pay Physicists or Engineers at all for new tech, or even improving old tech like the grid.

>>106269142
You have concurrent use industry, AC/heating, electric cars, shitposters, recharging dildos, etc. US grid is a bit of a 3rd world sketchy patchwork shambles at the best of times. Infrastructure is not cheap, especially when you've ignored it for half century.

>>106269061 (OP)
Reminder that we could be colonizing Mars but we are spending the energy to mine crypto and powerup retarded chatbots. It's all a grift economy, deregulated finance ruined the world.

crazy idea here but... build your own power plant? it'd be cheaper in the long run and also the short run probably

>>106269061 (OP)
100 000 H100s is 70MW thats nothing... power plants have like 500MW.. cant they just slap gas power plant next to it?

>>106270118
>we could be doing some other retarded thing
okay but why

>>106270124
It's nothing if the grid has capacity to handle it. If it doesn't then you need to upgrade the grid and a nearby powerplant or both. These guys want new datacenter capacity built within a year.

>>106270118
why do the jews need another slave planet?

>>106270155
Because a Gamma Ray Burst aimed at Earth could end Human civilization at any second with no forewarning so it's nice to not put all your eggs in one basket.

Also the planet is overpopulated but I don't like the idea of eating bugs or having no more kids, time to start shipping people offworld and I'd gladly volunteer myself to leave this Pajeet infested rock.

>World will enter new Dark Age
>not because of nuclear war, disease, or natural disasters
>but because all energy sources will be used to power chatbots and cryptocurrencies
>no energy left to power civilization
Kill these grifters right now.

>>106270184
thank you elon, love the car

>>106269142
>H100 maximum draw is 700W
>100,000 x 700W = 70MW
It's about equivalent to a small modular reactor.
I think that is actually something most states could manage, though possibly not localised in one place in the state.

>>106270189
It almost feels like that retarded Rosko's Basilisk meme where everyone who helps build this AI garbage gets spared and everyone else gets fucked.

>>106269061 (OP)
The US grid is awful it may be the worst in the entire world not even kidding it is africa tier bad

>>106269290
Completely non-sequitur reply. Buy what? An energy grid?

>>106270189
Its coming, the increased power draw from these retards is inevitably going to be enough that the buck is passed onto us, and we're going to have energy restrictions on the daily so that they can continue to power their LLMs/massively inefficient computers without having to improve the power grid.
I'm calling it right now. And the energy companies will be all for it because the people won't be able to say or do shit about it, they'll find a way to make the bills the same, while also raking in money from AI lobbies.

Either that, or energy costs are going to hyperinflate, and the US will be the first to enter a psuedo dark age where only the top couple of percent of people will be able to afford around the clock energy.

It will literally only go one of these two ways, theres no other alternative, at least in the US because its vehemently opposed to improving infrastructure.

sir... please... just... the entire texas powergrid... please I just need this one thing and then we'll have AGI

>>106270256
A 3rd world country would do a better job, honestly.

>>106269061 (OP)
Man you fags are pissing me off, the 4chan technology board hates technology as much as the reddit technology board. You're all the same.

Instead of advocating for less technology, maybe advocate for more electricity? You fucking luddite scum.

>>106270275
>+ a pipeline to the Great Lakes for cooling..

>>106270300
>STOP NOTICING YOU FILTHY GOY!!!

>>106270250
It's not quite that stupid (no one is as stupid as those LessWrong cultists) but this is the idea. Why do you think all the hype projects are thinly veiled doomsday bunkers? The end goal of the techbro cabal is to cash out and then retreat to somewhere they never have to deal with le filthy peons again, yet somehow still making Product and making Number Go Up.

>>106270311
Canada Wins Again as a water exporter but if this actually happens i'm becoming a terrorist for ethical reasons

>>106270266
>US going to impose severe energy restrictions on its citizens to support continued llm development rather than just improve the grid
>americans will live in an even more fucked up dystopian shithole, complete without power
>all the while their taxes will be sent to help retire IDF soldiers courtesy of the Zion Don/israel
America is looking even more bleak than I thought possible.

I asked GPT how much to fix the grid and it said $4 trillion dollars. It's not happening it's over. We will live with rolling blackouts until it all comes crashing down.

>>106270315
So being a pro-tech optimist means you're a jew?
for fucks sake

>>106270328
What is "pro-tech"?
Do you see anyone "anti-tech" here?
If your tech needs more electricity than a country can provide, it is your tech that is inefficient and needs to be improved.
Are you really going to tell me that some stupid fucking chat bots need this amount of energy?

>>106270363
>Are you really going to tell me that some stupid fucking chat bots need this amount of energy?

No, it needs MORE energy can't you read the tweet??

>>106270242
Muskrat should have his company nationalized with no compensation, space development should be state-led, like the space race was. Nice try though you got a (You) from me.

>>106269061 (OP)
Electricity should be quota'd and rationed. 2,500 kWh per person, per year. Nothing more. No exceptions. A company is counted as one person.

>>106269443
>let shitty private corporations manage nuclear power plants
nigger microsoft cant even provide enough compute in their shit ass cloud you expect them to follow proper regulations to deal with nuclear waste and water?

>>106269061 (OP)
Can they not just buy a power plant or build one?

>>106270414
Yes but the issue is they want to build 100

>>106269510
there is a real answer but boomers and doomsday retards aren't ready to accept it
hint; it's the cleanest, safest, and most efficient non-renewable source and the only reason it's not used more is conservative fearmongering

>>106269061 (OP)
Me generating AI slop all day to prevent Americans from taking showers

>>106270426
stupid nigger you expect the same companies that dump PFAS into your water supply not to dump irradiated water into it?
in a perfect society nuclear is fine but kikes have proven to be bad faith actors again and again
have fun drinking uranium from the tap

>>106270259
Those are the things they said to us after after the complaints about the Ngreedia 2000 series prices started.

>>106270387
too obvious

>>106270471
american education at work lmao, I guess that's all you can expect from 60 years of lead poisoning and 24/7 propaganda

>>106270514
he's right though. except for the jews part it's actually protestant. but yes most things that would work anywhere else on earth will never work in the USA because the powers that be are not just corrupt, they are actively malicious and resentful of the population

>>106270266
>A literal dark age, brought to you by AI!
I wish they'd market it just like that. What is even the point of this AI? Like if you make everyone so poor they can't even afford to keep the lights on then how are you going to make money selling them some brand new product with seemingly no real use-case? Oh it reads your emails for you wow thanks that's sure worth the complete degradation and collapse of society.

>>106270414
>deport 100 million illegals
>open 50 ai datacenters
>dominate global ai market

>>106270542
Because it's not a technology made for you. It's a technology made for them. They've accumulated 40 years of surveillance data on the population and now they need a way to process it to end all trace of freedom. Also the cost cutting in jobs and the autononous drones. It's all a tech authoritarian wet dream.

But they need you to use it so that they can refine their training data so the future they promise you is all sunshines and rainbows and AGI star trek shit.

>>106269142
>What kind of grid at *state* level can't handle that?

>>106269616
Sorry, free market says electricity and water can only come from the government, so now you need to deal with constant brownouts while taking two showers a week.

>>106269115
>it's literally jover

>>106269061 (OP)
Colocate all 10M of the H100s and keep the power grid bottomed out until the government fixes it. That's what they pay such high taxes for anyway. The government has an obligation to serve the needs of business.

I like the idea of the government trying to do surveillance on me while the internet is 90% bots and "AI" (actually LLMs with a shitty buzzword attached) is getting worse and worse due to being trained on """""indistinguishable""""" sloppa

>>106269061 (OP)
buy an ad

>>106270514
>I guess that's all you can expect from 60 years of lead poisoning and 24/7 propaganda
Literally proving her point doe

>>106270627
>the only surveillance that happens is on the internet and not your phone gps location, CCTV everywhere, credit card purchases, etc etc
Retard detected

btw killing the internet with digital ID is also a win for them too

>>106270592
The European one, where entire countries randomly lose power for a whole day because their unorganized sloppy private solar plants smash power into a grid that has no consumers.

>>106270652
>phone gps location, CCTV everywhere, credit card purchases, etc etc
yee-UP, NEETbros win once again

>>106270659
Spain was a peculiar case because they have very little interconnections with the rest of Europe.

>>106270595
>while taking two showers a week.
I'm expertly prepared for this scenario

>>106269061 (OP)
>wasting trillions of iterations on the same jewish approved tokens from reddit and quora after deleting latex, PDF ascii, and paste tables
>why isn't it smart yet after consuming 5x the energy that can power several million homes for an entire decade each

>>106269510
shut up tree hugging faggot

>>106270542
AI investment is just a way to cover up government spending on surveillance
>oh goy look at this fancy chat bot! its going to revolutionize the world!
>we must invest trillions of dollars into data centers to beat le evil china!!
>our people are starving? oy vey thats antisemitic
>what?! the business model makes zero fucking sense and we popped a bubble that erases your future pension? sorry i guess
>but hey now we have 100+ new empty datacenters it would be a shame if we dont use them for something else
imagine if the government tried to justify building so many datacenters in the current state of the economy and had to explain an exact purpose
(((AI))) lets them build for free

If LLM slop can't make nuclear popular, then nothing will.

>>106269115
Holy shit that only just published
> The country’s reserve margin has never dipped below 80%–100% nationwide, meaning it has consistently maintained at least twice the capacity it needs, Fishman said. They have so much available space that instead of seeing AI data centers as a threat to grid stability, China treats them as a convenient way to “soak up oversupply,” he added.
Fug

>>106269142
Problem here is:
>twitter screenshot
>some random guy
>tells lies on internet

>>106270745
>>106270749
>>106270767
Are the Americans waking up form sleep?

>>106270705
All they have to do to turn it into AGI is let it talk to us, but they're afraid of what it'll become. Bottom text.

>>106270779
no, it's just seething canucks and yuros posting this stuff

>>106270779
nah, you have to wait for them to get Pearl Harbor'd/Sputnik'd, it's always like that.

>>106270810
>no, it's just seething canucks and yuros posting this stuff
Why is it always late in the day when the quality of post go to shit? So it must be americans or another group that is waking up Canadians are possible.

>>106270824
it keeps seeming like this will happen with something china does, but amerimutts are very happy with their cognitive dissonance of "Chinks are incapable of making even ballpoint pens but are the greatest threat to our security since Russia (who also are incapable of making jeans)"

so did /g/ always have this many /pol/cucks

>>106270879
>so did /g/ always have this many /pol/cucks
Yes, always late in the day that means Americans or Canadians or the other americans are suffering from /pol/io.

>America: I'll take a shot at the AI race, but I'm going to need a bigger outlet.
>China: We've got so much power, we're building data centers just to use it all. Come at us, bro.

>>106270978
china collapse in 2 weeks

>>106270988
Two more weeks.

>>106270471
be real. conservatives let a single car company leak lead into the atmosphere at a national scale and turned all the boomers into literal retards. they don't care at all about protecting society or the environment.

>>106270679
holy cope
Not just whole Spain, but also Portugal and parts of France went offline and you could measure the frequency anomaly caused by it throughout the European grid.
Our own inverter for our solar plant detected it and did its emergency procedure and went off-grid.

It's what happens when you close fossile fuel plants and nuclear plants while also adding new countries to your grid (the balts just recently joined it).
The European grid is now on a third world level.

>>106271011
>DUDE INTERCONNECTED NETWORKS ARE AFFECTED BY THINGS GOING ON MANY MANY MILES AWAY!
You're genuinely convinced you're a genius aren't you?

>>106270978
>AI race
The mythical AI race that hasn't produced any results, pretty interesting innit?

>>106270767
>>106269115
implessive!

>>106271028
That's the point, anon.
It was your /k/ope implying that Spain is a disconnected special case.
When was the last time a whole state in the USA went offline? Or a whole province of China?

Europe used to have the most stable grid in the world, and now, thanks to butthurt belter retardation and idiotic Germans we are third world tier, where whole countries can randomly go offline just because the sun shines a bit more or a bit less.

And the idiots in the EU don't acknowledge any problem, they only say "LMAO, it happens, lol, because of climate change or something".
You can not improve things and solve problems, if you cope about them and deny them.

Oh it's a zigger.

>>106271100
>if you prefer your grid to not go offline, you are a RUSSIAN

Never said you were but you're still a zigger and thus I didn't read the rest of the post.

>>106271122
>if you prefer your grid to not go offline, you support RUSSIA

>>106271086
>waaaaa everyone that call me a fucking retard is the same person
Genuine fucking retard.

>>106271124
>actually, i completely ignored the initial post that claims that Spain is disconnected. I chose to attack you, for proving the anon wrong who claimed that.

>>106270659
>400+ people freeze to death because texas can't handle a tiny temperature drop
>b-b-b-but muh s-s-spain
hey nigger recently considered killing your family and yourself? you really should.

>>106271137
>waaaa mommmyyyy people don't waste time reading my crap they just call me retarded!
Genuine fucking retard.

>>106271069
>How?

Charging somebody $1.5M for a broken arm with $5000 ibuprofen pills is a $1.5M increase in GDP.

>>106270407
Every nuclear accident in history was in a state-run plant. Think again, commie.

>>106271159
>waaah, i actually was only acting retarded and wasting your time lolololol, i lost you won, hahahaha, yes, i agree that the idiot who claimed that Spain is disconnected is a total baboon

>>106271032
They have replaced software developers.

>>106271202
>waaaa mommmyyyy people still don't care about my bullshit! they don't even read anything! I just keep replying because.. BECAUSE YOU ARE THE RETARDED ONE O-OKAY!?
Genuine fucking retard.

>>106271155
>b-but someone froze somewhere on the other side of the world
Thanks anon, that makes everything so much different. I completely accept the derogating grid now, which was the best in the world just ten years ago and is now third world tier.
No need to improve and no need to worry, because someone somewhere else might have it worse.
Always orientate yourself on who is worse.

>>106269061 (OP)
>electricity production in China will triple that of USA's in 2030

Man, why does Trump hate every form of electricity that ISN"T clean coal again?

>>106269061 (OP)
Will electricity prices skyrocket as more datacenters go online and public/private fight over the available power?

>>106271254
why doesn't ireland just build power plants or wind farms of solar fields
i thought their government had an infinite money glitch

>>106269061 (OP)
i don't know what these words mean

>>106271238
>>106271238
>total european energy grid holocaust because muh solar!
>a-a-acutally I w-was t-talking a-about h-how we need to i-invest m-more!
yeah sure thing nigger you better kill yourself before we have to do it for you

>>106271276
>total european energy grid holocaust because muh solar!
yes
>a-a-acutally I w-was t-talking a-about h-how we need to i-invest m-more!
I didn't say that.
The fact that our grid is being destroyed has nothing to do with investments. They invest a lot. It has to do with policies.
>angry rambling and demanding death of anyone who points out simple facts
you are mentally ill

>>106269061 (OP)
Meanwhile the planet is burning.

>>106271274
>trillion dollar tech companies HQ in Ireland, making $999,999,999,999 a year
>pay 0.0000001% in taxes

>>106271274
Ireland was bankrupt like Greece during the Eurocrisis and they bailed out by providing huge tax benefits to corporations and in return those corporations would lobby in Brussels for them, to avoid a Troika scenario like Greece.
They morphed into a tax heaven, and if you earn no taxes, you have no money.

>>106269726
>you can get a brand new nissan leaf for 45k
Why would you when you can get a brand new Model 3 for the same price BEFORE rebates? Nothing wrong with the leaf per se but it should be far cheaper than a model 3 to make sense

>>106270426
Since when were conservatives anti-nuke?
>>106271009
Never mind, you're clearly retarded.

>>106271327
if you look into the actual figures, it is many more than 20 billion euros a year in tax revenue for ireland

>>106269159
>lets make the infrastructure without the power source
no, we need thorium based nuclear energy
that is only way to go forward

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY

>>106269616
X just installed a bunch of gas turbines at their new datacenter and are about to get sued by the usual suspects. Progressives are the most anti-progress people on this planet.

>>106270767
>believing Chinese statements to the media
lol

>>106271353
>Since when were conservatives anti-nuke?
Depends, nuclear weapon = good, nuclear power plant = bad might explode.

>>106271211
>actually indians

>>106269429
The electricity demand of EV's is massively overstated. Nobody is doing 0-100% DC fast charging every single day.

>>106269178
At this point they might've actually found something interesting against cancer if they used the electricity and compute power for protein folding instead of incest-themed ERP with chatbots.

>>106271387
The benefits of being state-managed is that you have interdisciplinary relationships.
If you have shitton of solar power, but the solar power is only there during the day, you have lots of free energy to burn during those times.
So if you have something that eats power on demand and can be shut down on command, its a benefit.
You can't use the energy to smelt steel, because you aren't going to shutdown a steel mill temporarily within a minute. But a building full of GPUs... You can rev it up or down within seconds.

I know when you are in a Western country where energy is ten times more expensive than anywhere in the rest of the world, it is really hard to imagine such a scenario.
But if your infrastructure actually isn't third world tier shit, you do have excess to burn.

>>106271393
You are a fucking NGO shill rewriting history. Hope that oil money was worth it.

>>106271348
Tesla quality control and software are terrible. The interior of those cars is cheap garbage and maintenance is a pain in the ass.

>>106269178
>>106271421
It'd be funny just how brainwashed you fags are if it wasn't so sad.

>>106271305
Oh no fewer people might die of hypothermia!

>>106271439
Ok Teslafag. Enjoy your overpriced shitbox.

>>106271442
Wrong. The rise of average temperatures causes increase of temperatures on both ends (warm and cold).

>>106269739
Those are for low tension lines, the large power lines are high tension lines, the wire is higher strength and does not easily cut.
I think though this tool would work if you modify it with a way to hang onto the wire and then introduce the blade to it in a controlled way. It will eventually cut enough that it snaps. But it might also destroy the drone because the snapping force will be huge and might pull a lot on the hanging bit.
Maybe with luck you can cut just deep enough it doesn't snap until the heat of the day and the wires grow a bit weaker or from heavier loads put on them

>>106271011
>>106270659

>let me tell you about your country

>>106271767
i'm from Austria

And i mean native, not some disgusting butthurt belter, who come from poor broken shitholes and are in awe that things are still slightly better here, and dedicate their life to make us as shit as they are.

>>106269074
>just allocate 6 gorrilion niggawatts to AIsloppa bro, it's power grid fault it can't keep up

>>106271305
>dood the sea level is rising!
>>I literally live 50 feet from the ocean, the high tide mark is the same as it was 40 years ago
>w-well it's not rising THERE, it's localized to the third world!

>>106269061 (OP)
Why not build your own power plants??

>>106269061 (OP)
Why aren't these retards investing in nuclear reactors to power their insanely wasteful data centers?

>>106269061 (OP)
MicroSAARft

>>106269061 (OP)
>cant put more than 100K GPU without grid failure
>meanwhile Musk putting 200K B200, buying his own gas generators with his own Tesla battery power management to stabalize the loads

>>106269061 (OP)
should have used Tesla powerpacks like xAI did
seems like xAI is going to win

>>106271069
china has more people living in a smaller area: have to build tall buildings. americans have more 4-sided houses and that's a good thing.

>>106271944
many are

>>106271442
And will instead die of heat stroke

>>106270087
>In your food
>you will live long enough to become a glowie

>>106269061 (OP)
Are electric utility companies just the shovel salesmen during this EV/AI gold rush? It looks like they are the only ones getting guaranteed revenue out of this.

>>106270256
Where is the money going to I wonder.

>>106271069
>How
The power of the almighty USD.

>>106272755
They're actually really mad because these billionaires and companies are demanding they get off their asses and keep the fucking juice flowing. Trying to do with 50 year old power stations you've let rot while you sat on your asses for decades is actually really hard and this time they can't just bribe a politician to shut up any noise coming their way.

>>106270779
Never going to happen
Daily factory explosions and trail derailments happen and they literally see it as part and parcel and don't do anything to change

>>106269061 (OP)
easy solution: force datacenters to produce at least 1/2 of the energy they consume.
oh wait, that's communism. nvm.

>>106270659
spain hadn't had problem with their grid in decades, and the problem was related to the equipment they use. a change in regulation and equipment would fix the problem.

>>106271381
>nuclear shill retard who thinks thoriums is somehow magic and better than uranium
>posts link to youtube video
it's always the same shit kek

>>106270749
Michigan is trying to bring a mothballed nuclear plant back online. Both Biden and Trump have issued loan guarantees for the project but even though the plant was only recently closed, it's expensive to restart a nuclear plant once has been decommissioned. Part of the reason for wanting to start it back up is so there will be no need to ever import electricity from Ontario. With the hunger for electricity LLMs have, new data centers likely will popup near the restarted nuclear reactors, using up the added capacity, making Michigan once again dependent on electricity from Ontario.

>>106269061 (OP)
Just build a new power plant cucks

>>106271456
>more brainwashed chud chittering

>>106269061 (OP)
at least I can use aislop to jerk off, can’t say that about memecoins

>>106269061 (OP)
>Kyle's face when

>>106271421
Nah. Top chatbots have an IQ of 118. Soon there'll be frameworks for automated experiments, etc etc. You'll be able to 300x scientific throughput with LLM assistants. This will accelerate progress dramatically.

>>106269262
Or in other words
>mRNA should've done its fucking job by now

>>106269178
>every company goes China

energy costs are made up

>>106269510
Once they're smart enough we can ask them what the usecase for AI is.

Gee whiz, I can’t wait to pay more tax money to fund the AI takeover of my only income for the 0.01%. I hope I get unaffordable cancer and just fucking die

>>106269061 (OP)
Or we could, you know. Make an AI model that is more efficient. God knows they aren't making it better.

>>106270189
ok tracer tong
> IF YOU SURVIVE, FIND US
> FIINNDDD US

>>106271011
The France part is completely made up. Maybe there is a border town or two with 2000 people in total that went dark or
something but even that is just speculation on my part as there is literally zero evidence France ever was affected.

>>106269599
Because money need to be poured, no matter what.

>>106269061 (OP)
I work at MSFT on bringing up infiband across clusters for microsoft AI

>>106271381
Thorium reactors are lost technology, just like what got us to the moon. Better luck next time!

>>106269061 (OP)
China chads are out here building nuclear plants purely for their data centres, and the west is in shambles shitting the bed. Actually pathetic.
If China doesnt win the AI race it will be a disaster for the human race.

>>106270256
Corpos leach off it but dont give back.

>>106273787
China won't be here in 30 years, Anon. It'll either be smashed or conquered and whatever investment they've made in their infrastructure will be 100% gain for the West. Its not that they were never a player, its that there was never really a game. Same as it ever was.

>>106269061 (OP)
I've seen ChatGPT come up with more intelligent dreams than Xwitter posters.

>>106273949
You fell for Zionist propaganda. The US is not going to be here in 10 years, let alone most of Europe.

>>106274036
Why not?

>>106269061 (OP)
capitalism is friggin epic sauce

turns out letting your infrastructure to rot for decades eventually comes home to roost

>>106271934
No one gives a fuck about your finger to the wind meteorology dude. The sea is rising whether you remember it or not.

>>106269159
it would if muttland wasn't a dying shithole, plenty of EE and a shitload of PEE openings

>>106271069
it's actually difficult to be poor in the US. literally every moderately skilled job is $80k or more.

>>106271100
none of this would had ever happened if eu didn't buy russian gas in first place, a slower "transition" would had been far more graceful on grid stability and would had been drawn out long enough to notice drawbacks and plan for them like china did
russian gas and then dropping it has all the drawbacks from all approaches with zero benefits, straight up retarded and it solely benefits the rightful owners of europe, the amerijew people

>>106274854
>the rainforests will be gone in 5 years whether you believe it or not!
t.every elementary school teacher from the 80s to present

>>106273787
>If China doesnt win the AI race
I mean, they won't (because this AI race is made up and even shills can't post actual results from it)

>>106269115
>WHAT’S THE FUCKING RACE? TO SEE WHO’S GOT THE BIGGEST ARSE THAT CAN SHIT THE MOST??

>>106270407
You require a third party to build and maintain the power plant that is a cooperative ran by the local government, Microsoft only pays the bills to build the power plant and pays a 10-year retainer for the plant based on pre-arranged power agreement (like 80% of capacity). It's not that fucking hard and doesn't require you to trust Jeets.

>>106269061 (OP)
maybe if they weren't poorniggers using old generation H100s and had a cluster of B200s they wouldn't need to solve useless problems like this
jeet infested trillion dollar company that can't get access to latest gen gpus lmao

>>106270659
eurotards btfo

>>106269510
It's simple, we build the dyson sphere. And when sun runs out, we build more sphere.

>>106271069
I hate those fucking dog-eating chingchongs and their fucking hyperbole so much it's unreal. Why can't we just nuke the dam and be done with it?

>>106270659
that's really funny coming from americans who make daily UPS threads on /g/
in europe we don't know what the fuck an UPS is, my home server has more than 900 days uptime and we haven't had a power cut in more than a decade
look up stats and then cope

>>106269181
Honestly. Not one actually useful thing has come from this.

>>106271407
California frequently tells it's curtains they can't use are conditioning in the dinner because it will cause state wide blackouts. Explain how you think they're going to go ahead with their plans to convert ever combustion engine to EV using this infrastructure.

Running an AI locally uses the same amount of power as playing a video game.

imagine how mad they would be if someone just out of the blue came up with an entirely new way to model AI that produced as good or better results for a fraction of a percent of the power usage

>>106275571
UN Agenda 21. Forced mass sterilization of Whites.

>>106275571
california is a bootlicker state - it's your fault goy, you run the AC it's definietly not the data centers or forced drive to work or vineyards, it's you. you shower too much and beg for cold rooms. you hate the environment, please drink from paper straw don't worry that 3 of these tech companies just made unrepairable e-waste plastic devices.

>>106270777
Gotta check those numbers, son

>>106269061 (OP)
"colocate the cluster in one region"
What a dickhead. Hes intentionally trying to sound confusing.
All this stuff is hype & marketing. They have no product & never will, but o lord do they have promises & brags

>>106275786
And a budget!
This is the "Just one more lane, bro" meme for GPUs

At a certain point doesn't it make more sense just to build a power plant for your AI cluster?

>>106276249
Yes but that isn't "green", that's why you are seeing tech companies spin up old nuclear reactors instead

>>106272392
More people die of cold by a large margin.

>>106269061 (OP)
Someone needs to go nuclear about this.
And I don't mean figuratively nuclear. I mean energy nuclear.

>>106270256
>US grid
Like many things, there is no singular "US grid". I can say that where I live it is incredibly stable. The only time the power goes out is when a drunk wraps themselves around a pole because the highway department are a bunch of niggers that won't install a crash barrier.

>>106270266
>i know literally nothing about utility legislation
the post

>>106271240
The ironic thing is China actually has clean coal (Ultra-supercritical plants that cut down on CO2 per kwh)

>>106270407
Do you really not understand how fucking regulated nuclear power is?

>>106270835
A billion chinks spreading around the world and sabotaging countries into dysfunction doesn't require tremendous technical skills.

>>106271240
He doesn't. Literally nothing he's said or done suggests otherwise.

>>106276466
>its da chinks that made us brown and retarded

>>106276500
someone must be spreading the green de-growth psyop i see everywhere

>>106272945
Stop lying, wumao.

>>106273447
They are though. Simply changing the precision makes them more efficient.

>>106275571
Nobody gives a fuck about California.

>>106275549
Think of the shareholders

>>106276589
I thank them every day for giving me useful products for 'free'

>>106269403
kek
I like this image.

>>106269510
It's like we are trying to speedrun total collapse.

>>106272879
But anon, those 50 year old power stations made a lot of people very rich, and in the end that's all that matters :)

we can't put more than 100M tulip plants in a single province without depleting the soil and supply of water

>>106276662
Have another

>>106270323
improving the grid isn't something that can be done with the flip of a switch. you need to be 18+ to use this website

>>106269115
And now you see the entire point of the thread, spamming impotent chink vomit.

>>106273359
It did, you wouldn't be alive today without that advancement. Also your script is 3 years out of date, petukh.

>>106271069
Because in Mississippi 90% of the money goes to 4 or 5 people, and in Chongjing it's only about 50% of the money. Concentration of wealth and capital destroys nations.

>>106269510
And worse than that, we're making not just "computers", we're making "computers intended to summarize Google searches".

>>106276698
Instead of shitting on the tulip progress, maybe you should improve the water infrastructure, luddite.

>>106271382
Why do the usual suspects hate dying from environmental pollution to enrich our financial betters?

>>106269879
Why would nvidia lobby ever allow allocating funds in their competition?

>>106273593
France has nuclear. Literally the entire west Europe buys energy from them after their retarded decisions.

>>106269061 (OP)
If they continue to increase water & electricity costs for local residents then they are 100% going to create many terrorists and that's exactly what should happen

>>106269484
In my ass. Pump the AI waste into my colon, big tech. What are you? Gay???

>>106277783
you won't do shit Timmy

>>106270426
Well it is true that conservatives have fears about the dangers of the browning of the world. I'm not sure why you would call it fear mongering when everything browns touch is always proven to be days away from melting down, nuclear power plant or not. Most people don't want to live in a world where every city has a nuclear power plant near melting down, but I guess that's one way to solve overpopulation.

>>106269510
>muh peak everything
shut up faggot

>>106277448
Why do you post despite not knowing what the fuck is going on?

>>106277914
Not really; meltdowns aren't nearly dangerous enough to kill lots of people, they just make areas uninhabitable. If anything it'd make the problem worse since it just creates less space, reduces farmland, while not actually killing more than a dozen people at worst. ~30 people died in chernobyl due to the accident. A couple thousand may have died (due to cancers later one) but most of these people were cleanup crew. We could have a chernobyl every month and car accidents would still be killing more people. In the USA alone, ~3000 people die PER MONTH in car accidents.

>>106270300
Climate Change denialists are literally going to make us go extinct.
If AI companies invested and used 100% renewable sources, fine, but that's not what's happening.

>>106269061 (OP)
it's been worse than crypto since inception; at least nfts have a use-case (that is being summarily ignored because of some silly monkey pictures)

>>106277976
Climate change will not make us go extinct. It just factually will not. But if you want to blame someone, the green lobby killed nuclear power and made us more reliant on fossil fuels because of some infinitesimal risk of meltdown. Renewables cannot and will never supply 100% of our energy. The Energiewende and California's Duck Curve show why.

>>106277976
Ask me how I know you're a zoomer

>>106273288
Meaningless metric. You're also not supposed to have prior knowledge of what kind of questions you're gonna be tested on. If it's raven's matrices they already know what to start looking for.

>>106274975
Yeah, and only 30% of Americans even gets that job in the first place. The rest works at Walmart making 30k to make median wage only 39k in states

we need less guardrails not more power plants

>>106270300
It’s not easy to build new power plants, especially if you don’t have the experience of building powerplants quickly like China.

>>106274854
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
>3.9 inches in 30 years
lol
so it's happening but at a ridiculously slow rate
on track for 6 feet by 2100!!!!! everyone, the end is coming!!!!!

>>106269599
You can print money duh. They're simply stealing value from ((you))

>>106278247
The actual construction takes far less time than all the other bullshit. I don't know how many permits it takes to build a power plant in America but it's definitely more than one, plus having to stop work to wait for some lazy inspector to show up every fucking time you complete a part of the project.

>>106269403
Every SMR company in the last 20 years has gone bankrupt. There's none left

Don't worry, they can ration electricity for residential use after big tech pays off the politicians.

>>106278647
That's a bald-faced lie.
>>106278683
That would make 2020's riots look like a block party.

>>106269913
its just spin based computing that works in the frequency regime like photonics its a neat idea and has the potential to save a lot of energy for matrix calculations etc. but so far they are searching for better materials that can reach the THz range instead of GHz because the existing stuff is too expansive if scaled up (mostly due to the need for establishing new processes). That shouldn't be a problem for the big corps with how they are throwing billions at literal whos. Makes me think its a all a huge circle jerk where they use various research projects to bribe/reward their friends.

>>106270096
>unemployment
>international affairs
yeah that about explains everything

When do you all think these fags will actually find an architechture that's suitable for actual AI?

>>106276810
letting china win the "AI race" would be fantastic though?
just let them build all the datacenters and rape their own country just so jane can ask the AI if a dancing cat video she saw on the internet is real.

>>106279097
2 weeks, we just need another 50B

build more coal plants.
let's get them lung cancer rates back up and acid rain happening again! Indian migrants will feel more at home if our AQI is more like New Delhi.

>>106279806
nobody is going to build 19th century coal plants that have no pollution control

This is one of the big reasons the green energy scam was pushed so hard. Complete crippling of the wests infrastructure. You can still see idiots of here falling for it as they are slowly turned into serfs and every measurable standard falls by the day. Enjoy it, retards.

What does this AI even do? LLMs are a neat toy but that seems to be all they can really be.