Thread 106272262

I want my old internet back >:[

>>106272262 (OP)
>want old internet back so i can use new internet
What? X and any other centralized content sites are incompatible with old internet. You can still use independent blogs even if they are less common.

>>106272619
Twitter/X is the old internet. The term doesn't refer the technology but the freedom.

>sensitive content
I fucking hate American puritanism.

>>106272743
Cry more, zoomer. Centralized social media is not old internet. You never experienced the golden age

>>106272743
>asocial media
>freedom
kek

Zoomer

>>106272262 (OP)
You mean before facebook, twitter, google, and microsoft ruined everything? We're well on our way. They're destroying themselves with all these censorship policies.

>>106272996
>You never experienced the golden age
I am using the internet for longer than you Millennials.

>>106273023
It's not them putting the policies, it's politics forcing them.

>>106272743
lmao

>>106273126
That the sound you make when you failed to understand something?

>>106273091
they are the same. Rightoid retards killing themselves.

>>106272268
>implying that burgerland is any better.

>>106272262 (OP)
I hate this shit and then you turn on a vpn to see what it is and it's just a normal picture that the stupid retarded ai just decided to flag for no reason....

>>106273181
Speaking of VPN should I get a cheap 1 core 8gb ram server in burgerland to get me a different IP without spending money on VPN scammers and data scrappers?

>>106272262 (OP)
I never understood how they managed to popularize QR-codes, twitter/x.

With companies, healthcare and government migrating to internet reception and services; going offline has become a inconvenience.

>>106273209
VPNs in general are very mid for evading this stuff since in longer term, sites might be pressed into blocking datacenter IPs as well. Youtube does this already. Take a look into residential proxies. If you really need a VPN, just get first best one, something like mullvad or proton.

>>106272743
And you don’t have freedom with a centralized platform. The old net was powerful because it was a bunch of independent nodes. One goes done and the net is fine. Someone doesn’t like what you’re saying? So long as it’s legal your site isn’t getting taken down. When you have twitter/reddit you give an authority unregulated power over you. They don’t like you? Banned. They don’t like an idea? Algorithm hides it. Why is this is so hard for people to understand? It has nothing to do with who owns twitter the power to abuse exists, it will be used

>>106273384
Yeah you are not getting the point. I was in the internet of Webrings, the Usenet, the IRC. All these have their own drawbacks, that's why social media took off and the other vanished into obscurity.
But that's not the point of debate here. If a owner censors that's one thing, it always happened. We are at the point of state forcing owners to censor. That was the whole point.

>>106273430
Holy shit you're one drooling retard. You should go back, and stay on twitter instead of shitting up 4chan.

>>106273430
lol
lmao
roflmao even

>>106273457
>newfag complains about shitting on 4chan
You fail this hard.

>>106272743
kek zoomie cope
Social media like xitter IS WHAT KILLED the old internet. Mainly by turning your generation into a bunch of retards.

>>106273514
>>106273080

>>106273430
Kek larp harder zoomer
If you own the blog you don’t censor yourself retard

>>106273575
>blog
OK millennial

>>106272996
>>106273022
>>106273575
>being so vtterly bvck broken by zoomGODS.
ngmi

>>106273430
>that's why social media took off and the other vanished into obscurity.

No, that's because google stopped showing you forum and blogs and serious websites and because news websites started to write article about fucking random tweet.

>>106273619
>phpBB with 120 visitors
No. No one was connecting to your blog or forum. Your reach was tiny and no one was reading your textwalls.

>>106273645
Good. Peak internet

>>106273645
Bro, no one reads your tweets. It's exactly the same, nothing has changed, except that you're reading the nonsense that big evil-tech companies are feeding you.

>>106273660
>Peak internet

>>106273683
>no one reads your tweets
>34.8K Views
>14K Views
>23.4K Views

In around a year you would need to use your digital id app, verified biometrically, to even access internet.
Invest into fake identities.

>>106272262 (OP)
just scanned this and logged into ur account

>>106273718
Seriously? You fucking believe the view numbers on twitter or fb or youtube? You really think that your fart tweet was read by 30 000 human beings? Like really read? Like by really human?

>>106273795
Yeah why should I not

>>106273791
Sure

>>106272262 (OP)
aim your camera at this site
https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
worked for me

>>106273859
>implying I want to comply
If they requesting shit like this, I am not using it.

>>106273759
Not a year, but it will be coming in 5 or so.
They will use AI spam as a reason to do so.
Scam Altman has been in on that shit since the start with his eye-scanning aids.
>>106273702
FUCK YEAH FUCKIN SMILIES
I used to run a few small free forums, mostly Invision Free.

>>106272262 (OP)
Sorry, Zoomers didn't fall for Zionist propaganda. Now your freedoms shall be curbed :3

>>106273702
I used to have those cool custom mouse cursors back in the day. I always used the blue sparkly one.

>>106273514
>>106272619
>X and any other centralized content sites are incompatible with old internet.
they are the old internet, you dumb cunts. just embarrassing.

>>106272262 (OP)
> using brain washing platforms full of street shitters and communists
cringed so hard that it send a ripple through spacetime.

>>106273146
>TexASS
>Porn site
vs
>All social media
>entire country

The state laws are so easy to get around too. Read them, if the site has less than 1/3rd "adult content" no id verification is neded.

Have AI automatically generate a picture of a kitten and a puppy for every dick and vagoo.

Also brb fappin to my shit generated with a local model.

>>106272262 (OP)
Too bad, the internet as we used to know it is dead.
Well, maybe not, mandatory digital ID would be the final blow, and then a new undead internet will take its place.
Personally, with social media and AI and turd worlders everywhere, I would consider killing the internet an act of mercy.
But of course, the authoritarian freaks in power would prefer to keep it around as a tool to control the population, like the Chinese have successfully managed to do.
I'm going to try and go outside more.

>>106273080
OK, so you're just retarded then. Average /g/ demography.

>>106274276
The Screen act and more is on the way. Enjoy your net while it lasts

>>106275164
not gonna pass yurocuck, sorry, but living under the boot is your life

>>106273611
lurk more

>>106273602
>>106273611
dally reminder these posters are from a pedophile website where they share gore of minors

>>106272262 (OP)
Just press and hold your pp in center of QR code screen until status bar verification is complete

>>106272262 (OP)
x is for retarded goy cattle op

I will never use any service that requires email registration or identification with my ID.

If my internet gets to this point I will just get one of my family members to use their ID's or switch to mobile internet with calyx fully.

>>106273045
Yesterday /v/ jannies banned me for "off topic"...over Roblox getting into legal trouble for child molesting cases. And jannies deleted my thread a few seconds after opening it.

But SOMEHOW they allow feds spamming child porn at "problematic" /v/ threads.

Kill me please. I don't want to live in this world any longer. Everything is being ruined as I write this.

>>106272973
Maybe if troublemakers and trolls could stop causing trouble, then you wouldn't have to hate American "puritanism".

>>106273045
literally got banned from all boards for criticizing american food on /ck/ might seem trivial but I never seen such aggression before, mods are losing it

>>106273384
>Someone doesn’t like what you’re saying? So long as it’s legal your site isn’t getting taken down.
Tell that to kiwifags.

>>106272262 (OP)
>go to checkout bf6 beta weekend
>can use EA application or steam
>select steam
>install bf6 open beta in steam
>launch game
>please enter the code to verify your email address
>uninstall bf6 open beta
Guess it’s another decade of no battlefield for me

>>106277847
That was cloudflare’s doing, which is part of the centralization problem at a different level

>>106277704
ck mods are famously obtuse for no reason, once they banned me on all boards for three days for pointing out some food looked gross

>>106277992
you're probably better off not playing it.

I feel like we are in the final years of the internet. In a few years it will be completely locked down worse than China. Mandatory ID system, Whitelist of sites allowed, mass censorship.

Is I2P the future?

>>106272262 (OP)
Remove your government.

>>106278422
No. The future is conformity and bending over to the powers that be. The population doesn't care enough about this.

>>106277201
>>106277992
E-mail verification has been a thing since forever, and it's a very minor inconvenience. I remember that some forums required not only your e-mail, but a waiting period while the admin approved your account.

>>106278262
>cloudflare
And Hurricane Electric, and GTT, and iFog, Lumen, CenturyLink, Zayo, Voxility, Cogent, PathNet, WorldStream, Equinix, ColoCrossing, Vantage, DiamWall, ClouDNS, Epik, Key-Systems, 1984is, Tucows, ISNIC, Identity Digital, Serverius, Linode, Digital Ocean, CloudVPS, TransIP, vShieldPro and GandiNet.

old internet: hate, trolls, spamfest, scam, pedo, ...

internet was a mistake and was never intended for the masses.

>>106272262 (OP)
Start using altnets. I2p Tor and Freenet.

>>106272262 (OP)
Solution to current internet is federation.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oOiCACmjKBM

>>106272973
Americans aren't the ones getting censored. This is mainly a push from EU among others.

>>106278697
The technology is very promising, I agree, but from what I've seen every instance is some combination of memes and politics, with some news sprinkled in.

>You can just host your own instance and ban those things!

Sure, and it'd be a wasteland. I guess you can't code your way out of social degeneration. What's missing from the internet, even more than privacy and freedom, is quality people.

Reminder that you have to be 18 to access 4chan, Hiro should be adding age verification to 4chan to keep the newfags (who were born after the iPhone was released) out.

>>106279069
People born after the iPhone are turning 18 now.

>>106272743
>le oldfagge internet is if I can say nigger and post fake muh holohoax infographics on a corporate social media platform

>>106272262 (OP)
>I want my old internet back >:[
Then you should embrace real IDs and ID verification — one account for one individual. I remember how good things used to be too. Want to get rid of the troll farms, the corporate shills, and the foreigners masquerading as Westerners? Want to ban the disruptive schizos, giving them no quarter? Want to interact with adult-minded people who don't behave like monkeys? This is a step in the right direction.

>>106273859
thanks anon, it worked for me

>>106278697
>>106278942
>quality people
Agreed on this one.

>>106272262 (OP)
Cancelled my medical Cannabis Order because I had to ID verify my age, not going to provide any data -.-

Meanwhile some online pharmacies sell Tramadol without any age verification

Dont even wntertain them by using scans of anything, don't play ball with these fuckers even disingenuously.
For reference, I know Americans can do this, I don't know if this isnfeasible if your whole internet is locked like the UK. Z

>>106272743
>X
>The old internet
Okay retard.

>>106273091
The giants are the ones lobbying for IDs. The bots have made it impossible to get ad revenue and continue data invasion because of the sheer noise.

>>106277588
It's not troublemakers and trolls. Corporations and NGOs have gotten into stirring the pot, so the datamining becomes reliable through identification.

>>106275490
>dally reminder these posters are from a pedophile website where they share gore of minors

>>106272268
dont worry OrangePresident will soon do it too due to roblox and other shit, already two laws prepared

>>106280302
>The giants are the ones lobbying for IDs.

Is there any evidence of that? The most surveilled society in history was East Germany under communist rule. I get the impression that people have a huge blind spot when it comes to the government's lust for power.

>>106272743
Nah, you're not worming your way out of this one buddy.

>>106280384
Palantir that is embedded now in US gov?

>>106273881
Based and principled. Not me though, I need twitter porn.
That said it's not really the site's fault, it is the government and using a fake face to get past it is kind of giving them the fuck you.

>>106280583
I thought by "giants" we were referring to social media, not a company that literally specializes in big data analysis.

>>106279988
Ive ordered bud legally through delivery services that asked for my id years ago. I wouldn't get in trouble over it but damn I have shot myself in the foot so hard by doing that with my privacy. Perhaps in the future there are open door shops that allow me to donate in person for their gift baskets.

>>106273146
apparently 90% of people just go to different sites that give less of a fuck and have less moderated content. the big porn sites are fucked, but it's going to be an endless game of wack-a-mole like fighting against piracy once the big name sites are killed by these laws.

>Eurofags own government is pushing age verification
>they blame Americans

>>106272262 (OP)
>scan QR on mobile
>it opens post without censorship
>it never asks me about my age on mobile
>but always does on PC
you can also bypass censorship if you add /photo/1 at the end of post URL
what a fucking joke

>>106280983
If your stuff ever gets leaked, and you don’t get a job because of it, you can sue for the long-term income loss.
In the US, illegal incarceration is worth something on the order of $1M/y
>>106280668
> Need twitter porn
With age verification, there is no barriers for sites to both provide and store unlimited amounts of true hardcore porn.

>>106272262 (OP)
then just stay off the new internet? It's not like you had bo part in it when twitter. com was typed in.

>>106272268
Actually...

Your face is classified by the GDPR as in the 'special categories' of personal data, being that it allows establishing gender and ethnicity.
This means X cannot process it legally in the EU for the purpose of age verification.

The 'special categories' are forbidden to be processed in general, save for a small list of limited exemptions.
Two of those apply: direct consent for processing; and serving a public interest based in law.

Consent cannot be used, as it has to be freely given and free of negative consequence if you refuse. Denying access to certain content if you choose not to, is a negative consequence which means consent cannot be freely given. So this exemption is out.

The public interest based in law here would be Art 28 of the DSA regarding protection of minors online.
However, that article in its third paragraph explicitly states there shall be no obligation to verify age using means that require collection of additional personal data. As X's solution processes a picture of your face, which is personal data, the third paragraph kicks in. Thus there is no public interest based in law either.

Bottom-line: X is forcing this on the EU in violation of the GDPR and Elon can start looking forward to yet another billion-dollar fine.
(It's okay. He's rich enough to afford it.)

>>106278749
>This is mainly a push from EU among others.
There is no push from the EU. Only from the UK.

Moreover, the EU's legislation on the protection of minors explicitly states that companies are not obliged to use age verifcation that requires collecting additional personal data. Which, by the GDPR's data minimization principle, then also means they're NOT ALLOWED TO.

>>106273023
The problem is they are and they're also not. They are in that they're driving people away, but they're not driving people to better sites they're driving them away from the internet completely - and the fact is the internet ISN'T going away so you're just going to be left with this weird luddite population that refuses to hand over their IDs and suffer as a result, and then you have a mass of sheeple who keep bleating "WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? ARE YOU A LUDDITE OR SOMETHING?!"

>>106273146
i guess these child protecting measures really want me to resort to tor websites to relieve my lust.
thanks jew president

>>106280302
>The bots have made it impossible to get ad revenue
>ad revenue

That, btw, is the real reason X is forcing age verification.

The EU doesn't allow them to serve invasive personalized tracking ads to minors or anyone they can reasonably suspect could be a minor. (DSA, article 28.2)
By getting people to verify their age, they can sidestep that and forcefeed them targeted ad-sloppa again.

Human beings under 18yo should not be allowed on the interwebs.
So that they can develop proper social skills IRL.
Disagree?

>>106282517
No. Pretty much agreed.
It's a harsh step to take, but the modern internet has become so much of a shithole in places, porn isn't even the biggest issue - or much of an issue at all, that it's probably the only sane way out that doesn't absolutely screw the pooch for everyone of legal age.

>>106282549
>>106282517
I mean, the internet has its uses, no doubt, perhaps they even should be allowed access to a copy of current Wikipedia. Just a copy, because otherwise they start chatting in that editing pages stuff that it has.
But, being able to talk to a person IRL should be something that everyone can do.

>>106272262 (OP)
Your old internet sucked dicks
literally

>>106282484
It's inaccurate to call us luddites, because it's not the technology itself we oppose, but the way it's implemented. A luddite wouldn't be on the internet in the first place, right?

>>106282517
What people call "social skills" is mostly the ability to make small talk, conform, knowing your place in the social hierarchy and acting accordingly, also putting other people down so you can climb the social ladder. If the internet truly robbed kids of this precious development, I say we should give them a computer before they even learn to talk.

>>106282658
People who don't want to give IDs will be treated as luddites, because their unwillingness to sacrifice their privacy will be treated as hatred of technology.

>>106282658
>What people call "social skills" is mostly the ability to make small talk, conform, knowing your place in the social hierarchy and acting accordingly, also putting other people down so you can climb the social ladder. If the internet truly robbed kids of this precious development, I say we should give them a computer before they even learn to talk.
Yeah, still, humans are social animals.
You can partake in that stuff even as a wild outlier. That is what I do and it's great fun.
Now, most of the guys that don't partake in any social stuff, outside of anonymous shit posting I guess, seem to not be the happy kind of a human individual.
So, to me it seems to be ideal to have those social skills and abuse that system to the fullest extent.
Disagree?

I have never, once in my life, used X/Twitter, or clicked an X/Twitter link. How much did I miss

>>106282853
before musk took over, twitter was unironically the number 1 place to get clear net child porn. Which you might find hard to believe, because of how hard the leftist pedophiles running the site tried to stomp out all loli/anime posting.

>>106282685
Quoting Ben Franklin's privacy/liberty bit in a profound manner seems appropriate here.
Sure - it was actually just him trying to weasel out of fair taxation, but do you really expect the sheeple that don't have the mental aptitude to see the bigger picture and that willingly sacrifice their every being on the altar of their techbro gods, to understand that nuance?

>>106282888
Sheeple by definition don't see the bigger picture. When an authority figure tells them to do something, they may grumble at inconvenience or intrusion, but eventually just get used to it. Look at Microsoft shilling OneDrive.
>M$: "JUST UPLOAD EVERYTHING TO OUR SERVERS! YOUR PC IS A TERMINAL FOR OUR MAINFRAME!"
>Sheeple: "Uh, okay!"

We'll be fine. Orwellian measures will be implemented on the internet in the closest decade, which will result in most nerds, anons, and other autists migrating to alternatives like i2p, Tor, GNU, fediverse shit etc.
We'll probably experience a revival of the golden age with a sudden boost in self hosted websites and so on. The majority of normies will stay on the clearnet, but given how they've ruined it, I wouldn't want them to come over either.

>>106282804
Maybe I'm just an idealist who expects too much from people and relationships, but I think it's possible to be social without acting like a pack of dogs. Don't you find it a bit degrading, to be just a smarter monkey? Don't you think the world would be a better place if people became aware of, and strove to control, their instincts? Don't you want more from your human interactions?

>>106282888
How are these "techbros" (nice misandric term, by the way) depriving you of liberty, exactly? Does Zuckerberg reserve the right to kick you out of your land like the government does with eminent domain? Did Bezos ever send cops to arrest you while you were walking your dog, because you didn't have a mask on? Is Musk threatening to throw you in jail if you don't give him half your income?

>>106272973
This is a think in the EU and UK too, and its bipartisan in every country. The ones in power have decided they don't like the idea of a free internet, so they're cooperating to get rid of it.

>>106282945
I would say you're on the right way.
But of course you need to know the system to abuse it. Quite powerful once you know what you can do.
There is nothing degrading about that I think.
I am a smarter monkey and can enter a room and take it over in like two minutes.
But then, ideally, I want that everyone in that room feels better. That seems like a nice thing to do so I usually try to do it.
Feels good.

>>106277992
Just play Battlefield 2 again.

>>106277992
>no battlefield
Why do people have this mindset that the newest games are the only thing you can play? I see it most often amongst normies, understandably. BF4 has multiple full servers at the moment, BF3 has 1-3 semi-full servers at any moment, BC2 has 1-2 full servers at any moment, BF1 also usually has 3-5 full servers. Just return to the older games, since they're objectively better anyways. There's no problem with playing and enjoying them just as you would do with any other game.

>>106282517
I'd say limiting the sites and hours they're allowed on is enough, but agree with the principle. I just think the proper way for that to be enforced is through the parents, not through ID checking systems.

>>106283162
>the parents
A lot of them just are terrible at what they do.
Personally I would try to stay as far as possible from all this stuff.
You'll quickly end up with a lovely woman that had the first child of her five at the sweet age of 14.
Screaming at you.
It's probably your systematic racism that caused her baby daddies to all run away before the birth of each of the kids.
Why are you so racist, man?

>>106272262 (OP)
it's over >:(

>>106282054
Are they somehow maybe able to see that you're a phone user over the age of 18?

>>106282466
EU is big on digital surveillance and censorship and there's been more and more talk about implementing age verification. If it's only coming from the UK why is most of EU now getting censored on twitter and not americans?

>>106272262 (OP)
Use panel control for twitter chrome extension

>>106273718
just means 34k bots quickly scrolled past your post and didn't read a single word of it

>>106272262 (OP)
Twitter sucks. Time for you to start switching to decentralized platforms like the Fediverse, which cannot be bullied into age verification bullshit.

>>106282633
Incorrect statement.
Old internet had vastly less instances of fellatio than Modern internet

>>106283718
>If it's only coming from the UK why is most of EU now getting censored on twitter and not americans?
See:
>>106282445
>>106282498

>>106273022
Boomer

>>106273795
Anyone can take a quick glance to view a post on there without even clicking on the post so in a technical sense they did view the post yes anon

>>106273457
Youre complaining about 4chan being shat up at this stage of the game? Seriously? This board much less the website has went perma retard within the last year or so

>>106282853
Hard to imagine someone like that but whatever

>>106275250
No sir, the Screen Act is an American proposed bill.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/737/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1623
We need to act now before its too late.

>>106272262 (OP)
Meh, x is a pile of trash and they banned ME for saying that in any country not run by faggots starmer would have being dismembered and flayed alive.

>>106272262 (OP)
>I want my old internet back >:[
The problem is less that the internet has changed and moreso the people using it have. Look at this fucking website: The site itself hasn't changed at all in 22 years, but the userbase has steadily become more stupider, more vitriolic and mentally ill over time.

>>106294042
>The site itself hasn't changed at all in 22 years

They implemented the hide thread feature, without which, I'd have been free from this shithole years ago.

>>106294042
>>106294609
Yep, more or less your outlook on this website has changed.

>>106294609
That's a stock feature? I've been using 4chanX for so long I haven't noticed.

>>106294042
People used to have lives outside the computer, now phones and computers make up most of everyone's free time.
Also feel like people used to be weirder in a good way, different geographic areas had their own culture, now a lot of culture feels national/international and samey.

>>106279161
What you describe sounds like Reddit on steroids. If this is the future of online forums/communities, then I am even less interested to participate in it.

>>106294663
>different geographic areas had their own culture, now a lot of culture feels national/international and samey.
blame globalism and da joos

>>106272262 (OP)
I want lazy, stupid people to stop bitching about things they can fix themselves by simply using better alternatives and telling everybody about them.

>>106272262 (OP)
Reminder Elon uses an Israeli company to collect your id

this thread didn't need to be yet another generation war thread

>>106272743
good bait