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Anonymous No.106273341 >>106273472 >>106275092 >>106276890 >>106277282 >>106284433 >>106284854 >>106285702 >>106285739 >>106288462 >>106289405 >>106297007
ITS OVER
Anonymous No.106273432 >>106273493 >>106273576 >>106277058 >>106278412 >>106296972 >>106297431
>Please buy our old junk that we deliberately held back to keep prices high
Zoomer redditards love it
Anonymous No.106273472 >>106273561 >>106285748
>>106273341 (OP)
>5700X3D
Paid less than 190€ for mine.
Insane value for money, if you have an AM4 system you can just drop it in.
Anonymous No.106273493 >>106273518
>>106273432
I've been OOTL, but it seems to me, they only recently realized how the X3D CPUs actually have market demand, IIRC, the 7 and 9 Ryzens all have X3D in the mid-field CPUs now too, no?
Anonymous No.106273518
>>106273493
These aren't newly made CPUs, they have been sitting in some warehouse for years.
Anonymous No.106273561 >>106273695 >>106274174 >>106275092 >>106285454 >>106288496 >>106291946 >>106291995
>>106273472
>190€
14600K/KF is cheaper and better.
Anonymous No.106273576 >>106273644 >>106278536 >>106278642
>>106273432
Lots of cache and vertical stacking are expensive. There's a reason they used to be server-only. AMD makes razor thin margin for each X3D CPU sold, except for 9950X3D.
Anonymous No.106273644
>>106273576
>AMD makes razor thin margin for each X3D CPU sold
anon...
Anonymous No.106273695
>>106273561
You retarded monkey nigger.
>if you have an AM4 system you can just drop it in
Can I just drop in the shitel?
Anonymous No.106274174
>>106273561
>build a new system for the worst intel gen ever
no one's buying a 5700X3D to build a new system, it's existing AM4 users buying those
Anonymous No.106275092 >>106278673
>>106273341 (OP)
cuntish desu they never made anywhere near enough x3d parts and they were overpriced pretty much their entire production run
>>106273561
for new builds you're far better off buying am5 and whatever cpu you can afford, or just waiting and praying next gen intel is competitive
Anonymous No.106275123
7800x3d and 5700x3d cpus prices skyrocketing due to lack of supply must've been noted by most pc builders 18 months ago or so
Anonymous No.106276890 >>106286057
>>106273341 (OP)
>AM4
what is this, 2018?
Anonymous No.106277058 >>106278911
>>106273432
>Please buy our old junk that we deliberately held back to keep prices high
When you're using a cut down or clocked down chip based on a higher tier part you have to wait for enough failures to build up supply to warrant making and marketing a new product.
This also happens in the GPU space.
I'm not saying you're wrong, btw. Just that there are other reasons the high-end parts launch first.
Anonymous No.106277282 >>106277839 >>106277907 >>106278536
>>106273341 (OP)
kek, amd milking retards desperately clinging to am4 and willing to pay $350+ on an low supply am4 cpu in 2025 because they are skipping till am6.
Anonymous No.106277839
>>106277282
having 5800x3d, I'm skipping till am7
Anonymous No.106277907 >>106278642
>>106277282
I have a 5700x and I'm just waiting for am6. Ddr5 is a failure. Why would I want something I can't drop another 2 sticks of ram into?
Anonymous No.106278386
Good thing I got a 5700x3d back in July.
Anonymous No.106278412 >>106296416
>>106273432
You could buy these for peanuts on ali for a long time granpda.
Anonymous No.106278536
>>106273576
>AMD makes razor thin margin for each X3D CPU sold
it's over 30% margin, what the fuck are you talking about
>>106277282
there's nothing interesting coming out in the short-term (not even in gaems since no new consoles). riding out am4 until we get CAMM2 ram + tsmc 2n fabbed cpu / gpu is an easy choice.
Anonymous No.106278642 >>106278710 >>106281192
>>106277907
>I have a 5700x and I'm just waiting for am6. Ddr5 is a failure. Why would I want something I can't drop another 2 sticks of ram into?
DDR5 is not a failure, you dingus. It is objectively faster than DDR4. You are singing the same tale as any user who downplayed every new version of a DDR generation. You will sing the same tale when DDR6 comes out and its platforms.
>>106273576
Margins aren't that thin, and I would argue they are more than the normal chiplets. FYI, the Ryzen X3D chiplets are the Epyc "rejects". The are simply not making any more Zen3, Zen4 V-cache chiplets which is why their supply is drying up.
Anonymous No.106278673 >>106278918 >>106283311 >>106296066
>>106275092
X-3D is mostly a meme anyway. Only selected gaymes actually take advantage of it versus normal SKUs. The hit on clockspeed kills most of the potential gains, unless you are looking for a power limited build. Besides, most gaymes aren't CPU-limited under most settings and when they are "CPU-limited" they already running insanely fast on a normal SKUs.
It is only neurotic min-max types that are fretting over X3D cache stuff.
Anonymous No.106278710 >>106278761
>>106278642
>DDR5 is not a failure
yes I love having twice the ram at half the speed so that the end result is practically the same
i also love being stuck with using 2 slots out of 4 because lole your ram which runs at 6400 is now unstable at everything above 4400
Anonymous No.106278761
>>106278710
>yes I love having twice the ram at half the speed so that the end result is practically the same
Wrong
>i also love being stuck with using 2 slots out of 4 because lole your ram which runs at 6400 is now unstable at everything above 4400
You always take a hit on clockspeed and timings when you trying to drive more than 2 DIMMs. DDR5 is just much more picky on this because it operating at such insane clockspeeds, but even under such a setup, it is still faster then its DDR4 counterparts.
The actual grievance with that DDR5 it was expensive at launch (more so then DDR4 and DDR3 at their debuts) , It took time for prices to go down once inventory build-up.
Anonymous No.106278911
>>106277058
These chips are old stock, TSMC stopped making them years ago.
Anonymous No.106278918 >>106284169
>>106278673
>Only selected gaymes actually take advantage of it versus normal SKUs
It adds a lot more cache, not only gaymes benefit from it.
Anonymous No.106281192 >>106281212 >>106281922 >>106284255
>>106278642
>DDR5 is not a failure, you dingus. It is objectively faster than DDR4. You are singing the same tale as any user who downplayed every new version of a DDR generation. You will sing the same tale when DDR6 comes out and its platforms.
Dddr5 can't run dual channel with expo on with reliability or consistently. You have to gamble that you will get a golden memory controller on your cpu and it will happen to work well with the mobo. Want to upgrade to zen6? Well hopefully you will get a memory controller on your next cpu that won't shit the bed and run your 4 sticks at 3200mhz. Ddr6 will have memory controllers built into the ram itself due to this failure. If you build am5 you may as well go itx because you have no guarantee that you will have 4 sticks work and even if you do you have no guarantee it will still work at advertised speeds when you upgrade the cpu later.
Anonymous No.106281212 >>106281342
>>106281192
I've seen (you) post this in multiple threads now. Sounds like you're an autistic with a bone to pick. The rest of the world doesn't have your specific issues. Sorry, sperg. Feel free to seethe and type up some low IQ shitpost I'll never read.
Anonymous No.106281342 >>106281922
>>106281212
I was excited to build another full tower computer before I found this out. The very idea that I can't buy 32gb or 64gb and then double it later disgusts me. Why even sell mobos with 2 channels at that point.
Anonymous No.106281922
>>106281342
>>106281192
stop sperging, these questions where mostly answered years ago
youtu.be/YZOSygf_6rA?si=JcyAgU_Xj91UBeOW

if you're THAT autismal about ram stick aesthetics, you can buy dummy sticks to balance out the setup from corsair and some gskill setups.
Anonymous No.106283244 >>106283404 >>106284157 >>106284931 >>106285043
I bought a gaming pc for $250 from a garage sale. It has a 5600X and RX 580. Been using it ever since. Before I was just using my thinkpad that has an i7 since all my games ran. Plays everything I need at 1080p and I don't have any desire to upgrade my resolution.

Don't know what AMD's plan with consumers but I'm not buying.

When 5800X3D prices come down in 5-10 years to $80-100 I'll be upgrading my CPU and when 6700XT comes down for $80-100 I'll upgrade my GPU.
Anonymous No.106283311 >>106284298 >>106296066
>>106278673
>The hit on clockspeed kills most of the potential gains, unless you are looking for a power limited build.

This hasn't been true for like four years now, they now put the extra cache below the cpu die so there's no heat bottlenecking and they can reach high clocks just fine.
Anonymous No.106283404 >>106284157
>>106283244
>I bought a gaming pc for $250 from a garage sale. It has a 5600X and RX 580.
I spent $600 to upgrade my PC to a 8600G (and then I can sell my old cpu/mobo/ram for $300), which is as fast as a 5600x + rx580 but uses a fifth of power and runs with nearly passive cooling.

Although really the only reason I upgraded was so I can put more m.2 drives into it.
Anonymous No.106284157 >>106286760 >>106286790
>>106283244
Not much reason to upgrade the CPU, but the 580 is very weak now. Some recent titles won't even launch on cards without hardware RT.

>>106283404
>8600G [...] is as fast as a [...] rx580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaNvNCj9fU4
Not even close. And that's the "580 2048SP", significantly worse than a normal 580.

I consider myself a frugal poorfag but I'm amazed how many people seem to be content with 580 or sub-580 GPU performance. Do you lot just play Factorio or something?
Anonymous No.106284169 >>106296066 >>106300494
>>106278918
The vast majority of non-gayming stuff are professional stuff. The said chiplets for this are sold under Epyc banner on selected SKUs.
The X3D Ryzen are just selling rejects to min-max gayming times.
Anonymous No.106284255
>>106281192
>EXPO, XMP
You are using running factory overclocked memory. The memory controller, motherboard, even the ranking of the modules have always been variables in the equation. DDR5 is just more touchy since it operating at very high clockspeeds (DDR3/DDR4 had the same problems with extreme factory overclock SKUs). You are just dealing with what hardcore memory overclockers have been wrestling for decades.
If you want reliability, stability then stick with JEDEC DIMMs from a reputable vendor.
>DDR6 build in-memory controller
Wrong, they are signal regenerators which makes them basically RDIMMs without memory controller registry involved. The difference between UDIMM and RDIMMs for DDR6 is very blurred. It will only exist for pure market segmentation purposes.
Anonymous No.106284298 >>106284341
>>106283311
Wrong, V-cache SKUs cannot boost as high as their non-Vcache chiplets due to thermal limits. The Zen5 version merely closes the gap by throwing the V-cache under the die but thermal wall is still there. SRAM doesn't tolerate heat as well as other ICs.
That's why V-cache SKUs fall behind their non V-cache SKUs at tasks where the cache yields little or no benefit.
Anonymous No.106284341 >>106284789
>>106284298
>Wrong.
Why do you fucking redditards start all your posts like you're high school teachers grading homework?
Anonymous No.106284433
>>106273341 (OP)
>5700X3D
>MFW I bought a 5800X3D and dipped
>They stopped selling it a year ago
>Brought in the 5700X3D for wait-cucks to fill in the gaps
What a depressing shitshow.
Anonymous No.106284789
>>106284341
>/v/tard getting asspained because don't understand the limitations of certain SKUs and can't get into trade-offs.
Anonymous No.106284854
>>106273341 (OP)
I'm hoping this means the same for AM5. As in, AMD will still be releasing new budget X3D processors for that socket in 2035.
Anonymous No.106284894 >>106285056
>mfw I bought 5900x and RTX 3090
>ffw inflation happens
>upgrades cost almost twice as much, newer yet lower tier performance equivalents costs pretty much same as used, yet still got less bit bus and Vram
I basically bought cheaper in the end, Jensen was right about "The more you buy, the more you save" meme lmao.
Anonymous No.106284900
ITT: smelly gaymers
Recently was looking into it and there's no point getting x3d for regular users, the latency is worse for a big bump in cost
Anonymous No.106284931
>>106283244
>When 5800X3D prices come down
I think it's going to be hard to find 5800X3D's second hand that don't come with a full system. I know when I'm ready to sell mine it'll be because I'll do a full new build and I ain't selling the CPU separately.
Anonymous No.106285043 >>106285050 >>106288421
>>106283244
you're locked out of literally any high-spec game released in the last couple of years, and anything high-spec released in the future, your gpu is no longer supported, and 1080poverty is literally abusing your eyes. Upgrade anon, or do you live in somalia or something?
Anonymous No.106285050 >>106285077 >>106285713 >>106288543
>>106285043
There's nothing wrong with 1080p as long as it's like, a 24" monitor or smaller.
Anonymous No.106285056
>>106284894
>Njudean paypig goy coping over his purchase while he silently pines for a 5090.
Aww goy, you didn't even get a 3090ti? obsolete goy, go paypig for a new gpu goy!
Anonymous No.106285077 >>106285110 >>106288454
>>106285050
stop pretending like i have never seen or used a 1080poverty monitor before retard, i have, we all have, im speaking from direct experience. You cannot convince me that 1080poverty is anything but eyestrain abuse, you can literally SEE the pixels. Its awful. 1440p is the bare minimum benchmark for PC-master-race gaming in 2025. 1080poverty is for turd worlders and children.
Anonymous No.106285110 >>106285674 >>106286024 >>106286264
>>106285077
You'll be saying the same drivel about 1440p when 8k becomes the norm and your GPU can handle a 4k upgrade. The consumerism is baked into your brain anon, it's not healthy.
Anonymous No.106285454
>>106273561
lol
Anonymous No.106285674 >>106290804
>>106285110
>when 8k becomes the norm
It's literally never going to happen. 1080/1440p/4k will still be what we're using 30 years from now.

Screenshot this post.
Anonymous No.106285702 >>106286321
>>106273341 (OP)
They are fucking retarded if they don't keep making am4 CPUs
Anonymous No.106285713
>>106285050
So a laptop?
Anonymous No.106285739
>>106273341 (OP)
7500f is king got it on aliexpress for 100$

[spoiler]Pentium II 233mhz / don't know it was a laptop
Celeron 1.8 ghz / GeForce 4 MX 440
Pentium D / Radeon x700
Pentium D / Radeon 1950XTX pro
i7-3770 / GTX 660
i7-3770 / GTX 1050ti
Ryzen 5 7500f / RTX 4080 super
Current PC:
Ryzen 7 9800x3d / RTX 4080 super[/spoiler]
Anonymous No.106285748
>>106273472
i got mine for $135
Anonymous No.106286024
>>106285110
With the current trend of lack of game optimization we will never leave 1440p.
Anonymous No.106286057
>>106276890
Kinda. Well, it's "2020," really.
We'll just pretend 2020-2024 never happened, and you can kinda go 2018, 2019, 2020/2025, 2021/2026, etc.
I mean... the clown's still there, but I think everybody has learned to appreciate a sense of (sane) normality.
So, we're all "actually five years younger" or things are maybe "five years early."
Anonymous No.106286264 >>106286391
>>106285110
we've been on 1080p as a "standard" from like 1 year after LCD screens became mainstream after CRT monitors became obsolete. Stop being a retard, that is not a viable argument. And even if that does happen, its called TECHNOLOGY, it PROGRESSES by its very nature.

And not that your prediction will come true in the next 30 years, but even pretending it did, i'd still be correct. If you don't like technology and its progression, get the fuck off this board and pick up wood carving you retarded wannabe boomer hippie.
Anonymous No.106286307
Don't stop there, keep going
3400G3D soon
4 cores, 8 threads, Vega 11 Graphics with 96 MB of L3 Cache
Anonymous No.106286321
>>106285702
anon, never start up a tech company, you will 100% go bankrupt. frankly, never startup a small business that isnt food production, you lack the economic knowledge to do anything else.
Anonymous No.106286391 >>106286559
>>106286264
I'm not saying any of that, I'm just saying that 1080p is still adequate for smaller displays, just like how a 1992 Corolla is still adequate as a daily driver. 1440p is nice, but not a night and day difference, and by the time you get to 4k you're using 150-200% UI scaling anyway. "1080p is abusing your eyes" is ridiculous hyperbole no matter which way you slice it.
Anonymous No.106286559 >>106286633 >>106286642 >>106286912 >>106297245
>>106286391
and again, you're making me repeat myself, stop implying i haven't experienced anything you currently use, i have used these poorfag monitors, in some cases for many years, and they're categorically SHIT.

I have driven those cars, they are also obsolete if you want to interact with modern music systems, use any form of gps without an ugly eyesore of a suction pad on your dashboard or windscreen for your phone, or just your phone in general, hands free kits built into your steering wheel+mics make life alot easier.

A 1992 corolla is fine if you're a poorfag who works at mcdonalds, and has no friends, family or any financial obligations, sure. Not a good argument as to why you should be using a 1080poverty monitor in 2025.

>"1080p is abusing your eyes"
i still use them occassionally at work, and it literally is, they're disgusting to use once you're used to a superior experience. Let me guess, you still buy 20 packs of chicken mcnuggets at mcdonalds even though you're over 30, right?
Anonymous No.106286633 >>106286663
>>106286559
>just buy more stuff bro
in fact im going to stick to 1080p just for you
Anonymous No.106286642 >>106286663 >>106286773
>>106286559
This has to be some form of autism or elaborate troll, I've been using 1440p and 4k displays with my home PC for a few years now and I literally don't give a shit that the displays at work are 1080p.
>poorfag poorfag poorfag
Get over yourself, not everyone craves the latest and greatest tech. If 1080p was so painful to look at, the majority of gamers wouldn't still be using it in 2025.
Anonymous No.106286663 >>106286679 >>106290789
>>106286642
>>106286633
kek. I guess i hit the mark here. Yeah, 1080poorfag monitors are popular, so is mcdonalds, and aren't indians like the most overpopulated race on earth at this point? You don't see the correlation here?
Anonymous No.106286679
>>106286663
>seething this much over "poorfags"
projecting much?
Anonymous No.106286760 >>106286843 >>106286940
>>106284157
>I consider myself a frugal poorfag but I'm amazed how many people seem to be content with 580 or sub-580 GPU performance. Do you lot just play Factorio or something?

Games aren't just AAA titles. You have hundreds, even thousands of titles released each year, a ton of them not needing high GPU power. Plus you have old games too.
like, I play Katamari Reroll, Streets of Rage 4, a ton of old RTS games up to 2012 or so (C&C3, RA3, DoW2, Grey Goo), and they all play just fine on my 5600G. All of them run at a steady 60fps, at worst I have to turn off antialiasing.

Shit like C&C3 has hundreds of players every day and runs perfect and I've been playing it for 15+ years, why should I get a 1500$ videocard for that when it runs with my igpu? The fastest card I had was a Vega 56, and after spending months tweaking it to max performance, I suddenly realized that I'm not even playing anything that can push the card. Managed to sell it for 2x the original price during the mining boom. Been using this 5600g ever since.
Will be curious to switch to a 8600g or the upcoming/rumoured 9600g with the 860M igpu. I mean the most I'll get out of it is that I can turn on AA.

I think the only game I really wanted to play that was fairly recent was Robocop, and even that played on my 5600g, albeit on very low with frame gen.
Anonymous No.106286773 >>106287006 >>106287151
>>106286642
1440p would be fucking awful for movies though, unless all you watch is 720p. Can't do integer scaling for anything else. 4k at least allows you to integer scale 1080p.
Anonymous No.106286790
>>106284157
>Not even close. And that's the "580 2048SP", significantly worse than a normal 580.

Sorry, I may have been thinking either the 780m or the 880m. AMD takes a fucking eternity to upgrade their APU lines.
Anonymous No.106286843
>>106286760
I built a system recently for my parents with the 8600G, I was surprised when it ran Metro 2033 Redux at 1080p on low settings at around 60 fps.
Anonymous No.106286912 >>106286969
>>106286559
You're the Supreme Gentleman reincarnated aren't you?
Anonymous No.106286940
>>106286760
Dieses und jenes.

Casual Counter-Strike (GO) used to be playable on a potato, but CS2 kinda put a dent in that.
I still haven't played more than a handful of all the big and great titles from the decade of the 2010s.
2022 I had replayed Warcraft III for its twentieth anniveray, and that had "cost me a month."

Games could've known they were fucked around... the time Core2Duo was released.
Before that, you could always justify newer game with better tech, but with C2D, the bottleneck fell back to the developer.

Think of it like this: If you're in the 80's, making a game is a bunch of code, but you're ultimately limited by the user's hardware.
You cannot fit more than this many levels, sounds, whatever, 1.44MB floppy is limit (luxury in the 80s).

Today, there are no more "artificial" limits set by the hardware, and these limits helped shape creativity, but also were a legtimate reason to rerelease next version for new platform, because you had actual technical reasons too.

Bill Gates with "not more than 256K RAM" was maybe not entirely wrong, just wrong with the number.

There's also a limit to pixel/detail density, i.e. there exists an upper limit to usable resolutions, beyond which there's no point going much further (hint: there's a reason we're "stuck" at 1080p, it's not too far away now).
Anonymous No.106286953
6 cores?
Anonymous No.106286969
>>106286912
>stop calling 1080p poverty monitors yes saar its all my village can afford
Anonymous No.106287006
>>106286773
4k downscaled to 1440p with a proper algorithm isn't really noticeably bad unless you're just pausing to stare closely at the screen
Anonymous No.106287151
>>106286773
I've watched a fair few films and TV shows on 1440p, never noticed any scaling issues with MPV.
Anonymous No.106288421 >>106288474 >>106291913
>>106285043
>high-spec game released in the last couple of years, and anything high-spec released

Name one game that is actually good and worth playing

No I wont buy monster hunt slops
No I wont play expidition slop
No I wont play alan woke 2 slop
No I wont play any modern triple A
Anonymous No.106288454
>>106285077
I use 1080p 144hz freesync 24" pixio monitor at around 2.5-3 feet. I literally am completely satisfied. I dont need more

Even the colors are as good as my OLED phone, maybe sometimes even better I prefer the yellows on this monitor compared to say my deck or phone. It has like something crazy 118% SRGB and near full P3.

Why should I upgrade to 1440p OLED when its all $500+? It's not worth it. I got this monitor for $80 on sale and it is a steal. I've used it for almost 3 years and probably I will use it for near 10 years It's that good of a monitor.
Anonymous No.106288462
>>106273341 (OP)
just get a 9950x3d
Anonymous No.106288474
>>106288421
>name one thing
>i won't play anything you name
So don't speak retard.
Anonymous No.106288496
>>106273561
Is it an upgrade path for my ageing AM4 motherboard?
Then fuck off, Intelaviv. Nobody invited you to this conversation.
Anonymous No.106288543
>>106285050
I find it annoying enough on a 15.6" laptop.
My eyes would burn out of their sockets if iI had to put up with it on a desktop monitor.
Anonymous No.106288649 >>106290752
How many scraps does AMD have at this point
This thing is literally a scrap of a scrap of a scrap of a CPU that was the top dog for only a year
normie No.106289405 >>106290752 >>106290806
>>106273341 (OP)
finally, AM4 needs to die already
Anonymous No.106290376
I have the 5900x
Maybe I'll upgrade at some point
Anonymous No.106290752
>>106288649
Zen3 production ceased a while back, Zen4 production is winding down as Zen5 takes its place.
>>106289405
Its already dead. No more chips are being made for the platform. The current inventory is all what there will ever be.
Anonymous No.106290789 >>106291995
>>106286663
>this post was unironically made by an actual poor-fag (made a bunch of poor fiscal decisions and are hardstuck on personal debt) who is projecting hard
Anonymous No.106290804
>>106285674
8K and above will only be for A/V videophiles. It only makes sense for massive displays. On smaller displays you are exceeding the limits of human visual acuity.
Anonymous No.106290806
>>106289405

I can still play anything that's been coming out with my 5800X and RX 7900 XT though. Why does it NEED to die? Explain yourself.
Anonymous No.106291210
You might as well buy a 5600G although I dunno how usable it is in games like BF 2042 and such ( post 2021).

RPCS3, Xenia, and emulators overall are no sweat
Anonymous No.106291913 >>106298700 >>106298816
>>106288421
I don't play any of those games either.
Palworld on pc is great fun (UE5)
Abyssus
Dungeons 4
Helldivers 2 on a high-end system looks incredible on pc, best looking game out there to play, and best physics+lighting engine (no memetracing either)
Mordhau was fun until it mostly died (custom servers are still good fun if they're hosted near you)
Outpost Infinity Seige (flawed game but unique, holds its own niche)
Titan Quest 2 if you don't mind the woke elements
No mans sky
Once Human
War Thunder
Dawn of War definitive edition just dropped, will need a modernish pc to run it.

There you go, almost none of those will work on dinosaur pcs, sure, lots of pixel-slop is still viable, but you're missing out. Which is fine, just SAY so, be honest, stop coping and astroturfing your buyers remorse and poverty in a pc-building general please. Make a "not upgrading my old pc" general instead if you want to post like you currently are.
Anonymous No.106291946
>>106273561
at least you tried, rabbi.
Anonymous No.106291995 >>106292081 >>106295231
>>106273561
these poor intel-aviv shills/coping idiots must be on suicide watch right now
youtu.be/x59AsHBKx7A?si=D4t_vbxt7h2GBpb1

>>106290789
own my own car+house, have a smallish stock portfolio, lost a chunk of money on bad investments over the last decade to be fair, feel free to stay mad and poor tho.
Anonymous No.106292081
>>106291995
>1% lows higher than Incel average
STOP POSTING HOLOCAUST VIDEOS YOU RABID ANTI-SEMITE!!!!!
Anonymous No.106292351 >>106292982
Ive got my 5700x3d for 140 euros a year or so ago. A steal cpu for the price. But I was upgrading am4 system. If I were building one now its am5 for sure.

But my am4s will chug along just fine in forseeable future.
Anonymous No.106292982
>>106292351
might be worth upgrading to the 11k series late next year, or you could wait another ~3 years for AM6.
Anonymous No.106295231
>>106291995
>own car, house, stocks, nigger cotton field...
good for you bro but nobody cares
Anonymous No.106296066 >>106296203
>>106278673
>>106284169
>>106283311
Why are you trying to argue against years of data showing x3d chips give higher minimum frames on most games?
Anonymous No.106296154
i'll only upgrade from my 5800x3d to emulate switch 2 games maybe
Anonymous No.106296203 >>106296245 >>106296409
>>106296066
>higher minimum frames on most games?
By small margins in most stuff which only min-max types fret over. You can't tell the difference in the real world under a double blind test. It only makes a difference a small, selected number of content (simulators, grand strategy, open-world stuff). CPU doesn't matter that much anymore for most gayming crap.
Anonymous No.106296245 >>106296593
>>106296203
Imagine thinking you can just go into the internet and tell lies.
Anonymous No.106296403
What percentage of PC's have am4 motherboards still?
I upgraded my ryzen 1800x to a 5700x3d
Fuck it was a nice upgrade
Anonymous No.106296409
>>106296203
>CPU doesn't matter that much anymore for most gayming crap.
It actually matters more because most games dont even get close to full gpu utilisation
I doubled my frames in tarkov when I switched to x3d
Anonymous No.106296416
>>106278412
>trusting chinks

nigger
Anonymous No.106296436 >>106296468
might be good to drive second hand prices down
consoomer goycattle see "end of life" and think shit is worthless
Anonymous No.106296468
>>106296436
Not really
Plenty of people making vids about how am4 still kicks ass
Anonymous No.106296593 >>106296661
>>106296245
>Min-max types getting this mad because people are destroying their silly notions.
You are no different then audiophile obsessing over silly crystals, snake cables and "special" wooden knobs.
Anonymous No.106296661 >>106296997
>>106296593
>having more performance is bad
Good thing Intel is suffering.
Anonymous No.106296972
>>106273432
Irrelevant, AM4 chips were still outselling AM5 a few months ago.
Anonymous No.106296997 >>106297218
>>106296661
False equivalency min-maxing /v/tard
Anonymous No.106297007 >>106297123
>>106273341 (OP)
This is good? AM4 is trash. AM5 should have happened sooner.
Anonymous No.106297123
>>106297007
The opposite actually
Anonymous No.106297218 >>106297242
>>106296997
min maxing frames is GPUs whole purpose for existing. when the ai bubble bursts gaming will still be here. go fuck yourself intel aviv loser you will never be relevant.
Anonymous No.106297242 >>106297367
>>106297218
>ai bubble
Two more weeks?
Nvidia could drop gaming tomorrow. Its literally a tiny fraction of the profits for them now
Anonymous No.106297245
>>106286559
>ultrawide
Anonymous No.106297367 >>106298554 >>106300779
>>106297242
>Nvidia could drop gaming tomorrow
They will never do it. They know AI is a bubble.
Anonymous No.106297431
>>106273432
It's classic binning. If you've ever tried to overclock an 5700x3d you'd see they're legit shit bins.
There's no artificial scarcity there's just a bunch of actual garbage zen 3 vache chips.
Anonymous No.106298554
>>106297367
>AI bubble bursts
>nVidia has to finally start caring about GPUs again
Will AMD's GPU division stand a chance or are they too far gone? I don't want an nVidia monopoly, they've already fucked over gamers enough already.
Anonymous No.106298700
>>106291913
I'll upgrade to a 6700XT in about 3 years for $120 when all the consoomers start buying the newer stuff.

Me personally I will probably never upgrade from 1080p or AM4, I enjoy 1080p too much. The only way I'll switch is probably when OLED becomes sub $200 so 5-8 years from now.

Even right now just for a brand new AM5 PC that's not a scam with something like a 7800X3D and a decent GPU like a 9070XT is near $2500 with an OLED monitor. Consoomers will pay that but I won't.

I spent total $300 on my PC rig and its really funny how pc builders just every single person to drop $3000 on a gaming PC.
Anonymous No.106298816 >>106300330
>>106291913
I'll upgrade to a 6700XT in about 3 years for $120 when all the consoomers start buying the newer stuff.

I will probably never upgrade from 1080p or AM4, I enjoy 1080p too much. The only way I'll switch is probably when OLED becomes sub $200 so 5 years from now at least. I will never consoom and spend more than $300 on a gaming PC.

Even right now just for a brand new AM5 PC that's not a scam with something like a 7800X3D and a decent GPU like a 9070XT is near $2500 with an OLED monitor. Consoomers will pay that but I won't.

I spent total $350 on my PC rig and its really funny how pc builders just every single person to drop $3000 on a gaming PC.

My last PC that I used for the longest time was a used dell optiplex with an i7 from an auction place for $30 and a low profile 750ti I got used.

Given how good AM4 is for even indie games now and most emulation for everything, I don't think I'll need more desu. Even in the future 5800X3D+6700XT will be my next upgrade path and it will suit me well.
Anonymous No.106300330
>>106298816
uhh, great, i guess, good for you that you enjoy the technological equivalent of wood carving, and that you're happy to ignore the wide variety of games i play on a regular basis because you're too jewish/poor to run them, so long as you can cope this effectively you'll be fine im sure.

But I'm still not sure why you're here though, like i said, feel free to start a "not upgrading my old pc" general if you like. I vastly prefer my pc being quite high spec so it does what i want, when i want, as fast as humanly possible, and as much as i want as possible. Old rigs with outdated cpus can't do that at all without problems. Unless you're here to troll 4090/5090 paypigs, in which case feel free.

Hell, my previous AM4 rig had a motherboard(?i assumed.) bug where it just refused to output sound to physical speakers, headsets+mics always worked just fine no problems, but pc-speakers refused to output sound completely, i tried a million fixes, nothing helped. Quirks that were solved via an upgrade like they never existed at all.
Anonymous No.106300494 >>106300832
>>106284169
Remember that current X3D SKUs are not as frequency gimped as the first generation. 9800X3D beats the non 3D version in almost every metric despite running lower clocks.
Anonymous No.106300779
>>106297367
>/v/tards coping this hard that their sacred market is becoming increasing more irrelevant

The current AI/ML stuff is a bubble right now, but when it corrects itself. It will still easily outpace silly gayming stuff. Everybody who had a brain and a tiny bit of foresight saw this coming over a decade ago and made their peace with it.
Anonymous No.106300832
>>106300494
Wrong, 9700X is still faster at a good number of productivity stuff (cheaper too) where clockspeed is still king or the extra cache has no impact. The margins are just smaller then its previous V-cache predecessors.
Cache is not some kind of magical panacea.