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Anonymous No.106279486 >>106279578 >>106279618 >>106279656 >>106280230 >>106281672 >>106281852
HOw to get really encrypted comunications
This kills the zoomers.
Anonymous No.106279494 >>106279500
>how to get a target on your back
Anonymous No.106279497 >>106279500 >>106279542 >>106279591
Tor was unironically developed by glowies.
Anonymous No.106279500 >>106279542
>>106279494
this
>>106279497
who btw still maintain most of it's servers
Anonymous No.106279542
>>106279497
>Tor was unironically developed by glowies.
I know.
>>106279500
>who btw still maintain most of it's servers
I know.

Still best option instead of using FBI.app VS CIA.app on your phone.
Anonymous No.106279578 >>106279613
>>106279486 (OP)
This, but instead of a forum on Tor, it's just PGP.
A 34 years old technology that Snowden used to get leaks out.
Emphasize on USED, not promoted. So it is verified as secure. What he promotes is irrelevant.
Anonymous No.106279591 >>106279635 >>106280837 >>106281893
>>106279497
It was developed by the Navy specifically, and there is absolutely no way they would have publicly released it if they didn't have a way to break it at will. Any time the US government provides you something they claim is safe, secure and anonymous, you should reflexively assume it is a honeypot. The people obsessed with eliminating privacy are not going to hand out real privacy tools to the general public.

The same applies to Signal which was funded by the CIA and has an old mossad Jewess currently running the foundation.
Anonymous No.106279613 >>106279634 >>106279651 >>106279751
>>106279578
>it's just PGP.
RETARD.
PGP is useless and not private.

You are retarded, on TOR no one knows who you are and what you are doing. it is Private and Anonymouse.

Simply get your retarded drug dealer friends to sign into your forum.
Anonymous No.106279618 >>106282393
>>106279486 (OP)
>encrypted comms
PGP?
Is retarded OP meaning unpozzed realtime messaging?
Anonymous No.106279634 >>106279644
>>106279613
>TOR private and 'anonymouse'
>government still owning 2 thirds of all the nodes, as far as we know
you have down syndrome OP
Anonymous No.106279635 >>106279960 >>106281893
>>106279591
>It was developed by the Navy specifically, and there is absolutely no way they would have publicly released it if they didn't have a way to break it at will. Any time the US government provides you something they claim is safe, secure and anonymous, you should reflexively assume it is a honeypot
YEP.

Only I do not really care if the gov uses the super secret backdoor to finally haves all my communications with my friends who are all about bullshit like going for a picnic, or how the latest movie sucks ass or trivial crap like that.

TOR is way more secure then literally apps who simply send all the data to the GOV and big corporations.

I simply do not want to get retarded adverts over
>Oh the super mega extreme milf futa dildo collection is out do you want to buy it?
Anonymous No.106279644 >>106279657 >>106280850
>>106279634
And signal or telegram are better how?

>Oh boy I sure trust the multi billion dollar publicly traded corporation to not sell me data after I use their app.
>Because they say they do not send my data to everyone!
Anonymous No.106279651 >>106279659
>>106279613
>PGP is useless and not private
>talking as if they're mutually exclusive
when did /g/ become this retarded?
Anonymous No.106279652 >>106279680
Why is nobody mentioning I2P?
Anonymous No.106279656
>>106279486 (OP)
this is a solved problem
Anonymous No.106279657 >>106279683
>>106279644
where did i say that you caveman? i don't even use these, you shoud get off social media retardino
Anonymous No.106279659 >>106279739
>>106279651
>>talking as if they're mutually exclusive
They are you are simply retarded chatbot.

Did you ever use PGP? Like one in your life?
Anonymous No.106279680
>>106279652
bc not initially a government aproved honeypot unlike TOR
Anonymous No.106279683 >>106279701 >>106279739
>>106279657
>where did i say that
Explain how you use PGP.

Aha Aha Aha I see you have no ficken idea how PGP even works or what it is.

You are painfully retarded. PGP by its nature is not anonymous. Another word you do not understand because you are a zoomeroid hipster or a chatbot.
Anonymous No.106279701 >>106279745
>>106279683
just dev a zkp platform a month ago, keep projecting retardino
Anonymous No.106279739 >>106279752 >>106279798
who unleashed this single braincell retard >>106279659
onto /g/? is there some kind of mass spam right now?

>Did you ever use PGP? Like one in your life?
you didn't, apperantly.

>>106279683
>PGP by its nature is not anonymous.
who even claimed pgp has anything to do with anonymity? it's just a cryptosystem. holy shit this guy is a drooling retard
Anonymous No.106279745
>>106279701
I accept your unconditional surrender.

You where ORDERED to
>Explain how you use PGP.
You failed and AI farted some other bullshit.

I won the debate.
Anonymous No.106279751 >>106279783
>>106279613
I can use PGP wherever i want.
If it can send text, it can send a PGP message.
Unless it has a filter to specifically check if there is a PGP header to block it, but even then i could just skip the header.
Anonymous No.106279752 >>106279768 >>106279839
>>106279739
>holy shit this guy is a drooling retard
Projection.
>who unleashed this single braincell retard
more projection!

> to do with anonymity?
Then what is it? You can not answer this because you are a budget version of chat GPT.
Anonymous No.106279768 >>106279798
>>106279752
>Then what is it?
just read my post moron. and stop spamming the site with childish 60iq nonsense
Anonymous No.106279783 >>106279852 >>106279857 >>106279865 >>106281948
>>106279751
>I can use PGP wherever i want.
Making it not an alternative for anything.

>If it can send text, it can send a PGP message.
????
OK and why do this?

>Oh boy I sure love getting on a government watch list because I did send this PGP encrypted message to my friends using gmail!

>We are saving the internet reddit!

LOL.

>but even then i could just skip the header.
Translation:
>Google/FBI will not get triggered that I did send a wall of gibberish to all my friends
>This will not get me on a watch list!
>Reddit goldm2sss
Anonymous No.106279798 >>106279852
>>106279768
Look I triggered the retarded chatbot!

>>106279739
>it's just a cryptosystem

You have no idea what that word means once more
>Explain how you use PGP.

You can try despite proving you lost the debate.
Aha Aha Aha I see you have no ficken idea how PGP even works or what it is.

You are painfully retarded. PGP by its nature is not anonymous. Another word you do not understand because you are a zoomeroid hipster or a chatbot.

You are either a chatbot or a zoomer who spams
>WHAT ABOUT PGP because mental outlaw or luke smith did mention it in your youtube so you repeat this buzzword.
Anonymous No.106279839 >>106279898 >>106279965
>>106279752
PGP is encryption and signing / verification.
Anonymity is a separate subject, just how the transfer is separate.

And that is what makes PGP good. That makes it work for 34 years and counting.
A forum on Tor limits your communication to that forum. How do you know that two posts on that forum are done by the same person? How do you know that the package you receive in mail is from that person? How do you know whether or not the person who communicates with you in any other form is the same person?
How do you encrypt a message on that forum to make sure that only a single target person can read it?

You don't. Except if you write a PGP signed message on that forum.
I could sign this post with a pgp key, then send you something in mail with a letter with a pgp signed text on it and you could verify that i was the sender, without knowing my real identity, but knowing that the same person sending the package is the same that wrote this message to you.
Unless i write the address of the sender on it, then i am of course not anonymous.

I could write software and publish it on any shady gitea instance and sign my commits with my PGP key and you know its written by me.

Merging transport, anonymity, encryption and verification into one big glowing package is the biggest privacy blunder of the decade.
Anonymous No.106279852 >>106279965
>>106279783
>Making it not an alternative for anything.
that's not what platform independence is about
>>Oh boy I sure love getting on a government watch list because I did send this PGP encrypted message to my friends using gmail!
anonymization attempts are somehow less likely to put you on a watchlist than encryption?
>>106279798
oh yes this retard now spamming random nonsense because he's butthurt lol
Anonymous No.106279857
>>106279783
>not an alternative
What do you mean by this?
PGP is the original used since 1991. You are the one who wants to create an alternative to it.
Anonymous No.106279865 >>106279986
>>106279783
>>Oh boy I sure love getting on a government watch list because I did send this PGP encrypted message to my friends using gmail!
If it worked for Snowden and multiple wikileak leakers, it will work for me.
Anonymous No.106279898 >>106279939
>>106279839
>And that is what makes PGP good
NO.

It makes it useless.

>Muh PGP
And you send them presumably using carrier pigeons IRL as specified in RFC 2549

>And that is what makes PGP good
Once more useless and a gimmick.

>A forum on Tor limits your communication to that forum
??????? AND??????
DO you even have a point?

>How do you know that two posts on that forum are done by the same person?
INVALID
WARNING
YOU DEBUNKED YOURSELF!

And how do you know the 2 messages send with the same GPG signature are done by the same person?
>[PGP mental masturbation]
No retard PGP ensures that theme sage is send by someone who has the same PGP key. If the FBI arrests your super secret friend and gets his PGP key they can impersonate him forever.

See why you are a retard and wrong.
>FBI steaming forum login and impersonating = bad
>FBI stealing PGP key and impersonation = good
You are a joke.

>I could write software and publish it on any shady gite a instance and sign my commits with my PGP key and you know its written by me.
Cool GPG fan ficiton.
Did you do it? THEN DO IT FAGOT!
You never uses PGP in your life!
Anonymous No.106279939 >>106280007
>>106279898
your retarded bait is not funny
Anonymous No.106279960 >>106281893
>>106279635
Pretty much this. Big gov can know my fetishes. I'll laugh at them. Go ahead tell everyone I like BBW sloppy seconds gang bangs.
It's the Jews who monetized this shit that I put energy into obscuring and destroying. Fuck you kikes for ruining the Internet.
Anonymous No.106279965 >>106279984 >>106281045
>>106279839
>>106279852
I think everyone needs to laugh at your PGP fan fiction because I sure am.

>I publish a PGP and sign the snail mail I send to you!
OK cool it with the fan fiction do this IRL or stop LARPing!

Now for the real world:
PGP fagot
>Uses PGP
>Encrypts his messages with PGP (presumably to people he knows IRL)
>Send this wall of encrypted text over gmail or SMS or some other shit
>He and his friends get themselves ASAP on a watch list
Congratulations you played yourself.
>He continue to torture himself by trying to decipher PGP shit send over gmail and was his time
Was it worth wasting 3 minutes to read
>>>see you LOL
or
>>>I be at the cinema in 15 minutes
LOL!

VS
TOR chad
>USES TOR
>Makes his own forum on his own server he has in his own home that connect to TOR
>Gives PRE MADE (keyword) accounts to people he knows IRL
>They exchange messages on this forum (use the PM feature of PHP BB)
>WE talk about random bullshit
>FBI has no idea if I am doing this communication with these people or browsing the dark web or using TOR as a proxy for youporn or wikipedia or some shit.

See the difference child?
>REEE TOR is compromised!
And PGP is not? Think child THINK!
Anonymous No.106279984 >>106280026
>>106279965
someone tell this drooling retard the difference of a cryptosystem/encryption and a routing network. he's too low iq to figure it out himself
Anonymous No.106279986
>>106279865
>MUH SNOWDEN
I am laughing so hard right now.

>MUH SNOWDEN
Snowden used a e-mail service who was respecting privacy or something.
That e-mail service is dead now.

> wikileak leakers
>I think PGP is magic and not some bullshit you can use in addition to normal communication methods.
LOL
Anonymous No.106280007
>>106279939
>I can not cope with the fact that after the FBI breaks my legs (because I did send over 500 PGP encrypted SMS to everyone every day)
>And gets my PGP keys they can impersonate me using PGP

You are a walking joke!
Anonymous No.106280026
>>106279984
>Muh cryptosystem
LOL OK buzzword fag

> and a routing network
OK what is yours?
You are not retarded enough to send PGP walls of text over traditional channels like SMS, Signal, GMAIL etc Right?
Anonymous No.106280115 >>106280289
And like this the PGP fag vanished out of this thread.
Anonymous No.106280230 >>106281549
>>106279486 (OP)
Most people would rather refuse to contact you than use your darknet forum, therefore you will end up being a kissless, detached vir/g/in.
Anonymous No.106280289
>>106280115
apperantly people don't like to waste their time dueling words with a 60 iq retard
Anonymous No.106280837 >>106281893
>>106279591
The incentive to release it publicly was to make it anonymous by allowing anyone to host nodes. If they didn't release it publicly then everyone would know that a tor connection = US navy.

With that said, yes there are backdoors, and no it will not keep you safe.
Anonymous No.106280850 >>106281045
>>106279644
Tox is still the only option a decade later. Glowies still try to spread FUD about how it "leaks your IP" all these years later because it's the only secure messenger that they can't control.
Anonymous No.106281045 >>106281196
The load of the faggots here
>privacy is when (((they))) know who you are but don't know what you are doing
>anonymity is when (((they))) know what you are doing but don't know who you are
as the comic says -> >>106279965
PGP and other means of preserving privacy are useless on their own against glowies if they suspect you are doing shady shit because they can physically get you, anonymity provides that comfort of hiding your identity but yet again, that alone is useless as them being sure you are being a threat will commit all their power to find out who you are.

To sum it up, if you are trying to go against glowies look for both anonymity and privacy, if you just want advertisers to fuck off and not track and sell your data, privacy alone is sufficient, anonymity is cool for forums and other stuff in which you wanna fuck around without necessarily doing some illegal stuff

>>106280850
I installed it and liked the idea of simply just choosing a name and then sharing your token to communicate peer to peer, however I am yet to find somebody else to use it
Anonymous No.106281196
>>106281045
I should mention post scriptum that I am aware that in the future we will have to go full schizo approach with both anonymity and privacy anyway as governments will go balls deep with restricting freedom and making everything "illegal"
Anonymous No.106281549
>>106280230
Sad and true, these conversations are always hypothetical.
Anonymous No.106281672
>>106279486 (OP)
There's like 10,000,000,000 DHT-based protocols which do what you want but yeah go off queen everything you don't like is telegram and signal lmao
Anonymous No.106281731 >>106282973
>TOR
>TOR
>TOR
>file.jpg
Either glow nigger or legit retard.
Anonymous No.106281852 >>106281941
>>106279486 (OP)
Ok, and how am I supposed to convince a sizable community to join my forum on Tor?
Where's the Tor forum that has a nation wide network of neo-nazi extremists?
Anonymous No.106281893 >>106281936 >>106281945
>>106279960
>>106280837
>>106279635
>>106279591
If you're not doing something that will get large nation states after your ass you're safe using TOR. And if you're really against large nation state adversaries you're fucked anyway. If they decide that they're getting you they're getting your ass. With or without backdoors. Besides all the TOR related arrests have all been not because of backdoors but poor opsec, browser vulnerabilities or some sort of timing attacks.
Anonymous No.106281936
>>106281893
Why does it matter if it's a browser vulnerability, timing attack, or back door? What difference does it make? They're gonna get you one way or another.
Anonymous No.106281941 >>106281994
>>106281852
>Where's the Tor forum that has a nation wide network of neo-nazi extremists?
I could answer this one, but then I would get a ban from 4chan, so no.
Anonymous No.106281945
>>106281893
Tell me why I should take any advice from someone that doesn't even know how to properly name the network?
Anonymous No.106281948
>>106279783
>muh watchlist
Retard, EVERYONE is on a watchlist already. That's the whole point of this mass surveillance society.
Anonymous No.106281994
>>106281941
inb4 it's that one Ironmarch clone that has a clearnet address too.
Anonymous No.106282393
>>106279618
>Is retarded OP meaning unpozzed realtime messaging?
How hard is it to slap some message app UI on a mail client and trick normies?
Anonymous No.106282973
>>106281731
>>file.jpg
I found the retard who does not use 4chan-x

>b-b-b-b- I use it
And you did not know you can literally CTRL+V in the window to attach the file?
And it name changes to file.jpg?

>REeee My thumbnails in my file picker!
Found the GNOME autist!
File pickers are deprecated!