Thread 106282423

Which one should a 19 year old learn if he needs to make money very quick, and how long would it take to start earning it?

>>106282423 (OP)
Either learn C++ or don't learn programming languages for earning money early, saar.

>>106282436
Can you explain why?

Also I'm Pakistani not Indian lol nice try

>>106282458
it's already too late. Better just migrate to the UK and leach off gibs

>>106282458
>Pakistani
same shit different streets, kek.

>>106282423 (OP)
C, everything else is jeetware

>>106282458
>Also I'm Pakistani not Indian lol nice try
this fucking guy
YER A PAJEET, FUCK OFF BROWNIE

>>106282423 (OP)
>Which one should a 19 year old learn if he needs to make money very quick, and how long would it take to start earning it?

All three are crap, shitty programming languages.

To "make money quick" maybe he/she should learn stock market investment.

If he wants to earn money as developer, then he needs to learn software development principles, data structures, algorithms, programming paradigms, concurrency, security topics, etc etc.

Just "learning a programmer language" won't give you money, it will simply make you compete with 1000 junior developers that aren't going to earn more than a minimal wage job.

>>106282423 (OP)
C/C++ because you'll always need that to properly understand whatever it is you eventually get into.
The general rule is to go for things which don't have either excessive positive or excessive negative emotional activation. Python will inflate your ambitions. Java will deflate your ambitions. C/C++ teaches you useful skills that get you where you need to be.

>>106282423 (OP)
Learn Business and Vibecoding.

>>106282423 (OP)
If you want to get a coder job you'll usually have to learn more than one language
> if he needs to make money very quick,
Good luck competing with indians
Better learn something obscure like COBOL on IBM mainframe

>>106282423 (OP)
Start here
https://www.ibm.com/products/z/resources/zxplore

>>106283056
>t. day trader that lives in his mom's basement, browses r/wallstreetbets for hot takes

>>106283122
>IBM mainframe
That would be only 2'500'000$ to get started

>>106283231
>>106283146

you will be a garbage programmer in any language, if your intention is "quick money". roll some dice and then waste your time.

>>106282423 (OP)
What do you mean by "very quick"? Even if you learned Python, which is the easiest out of those 3, it'd take around 6 months before you can even start applying for jobs. If you need money now, I suggest checking local businesses (in person) and asking if they need help.

>>106283056
bot

>>106282423 (OP)
Most companies use Java because of Oracle enterprise systems.
Python is for hobbyists, C++ is for extreme autists. Java is the best out of all of these unironically.

>>106283748
Disgusting.

>>106283748
>Java is the best out of all of these unironically.

spoken like a true durga university graduate

>>106282423 (OP)
>Which one should a 19 year old learn if he needs to make money very quick, and how long would it take to start earning it?

Whatever he chooses, he should check with the language alignment chart at the left.

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Tell him to choose carefully.

>>106284218
that's durga sir's software solutions for you mleccha

>>106284241
Why do pseuds always suck off Lisp?

>>106282423 (OP)
>Which one should a 19 year old learn
Well that depends on your goal. Making a game? C++. Building a web application? Java. Doing some AI shit? Python.
>if he needs to make money very quick, and how long would it take to start earning it?
Oh boy, I have bad news for you fren...

>>106282458
>I'm Pakistani
kek got you op

>>106282423 (OP)
C++, Python, Lua, JavaScript

You don't really need much else.

>>106283056
>To "make money quick" maybe he/she should learn stock market investment.
Actually to make money off the stock market you need to either be an insider or have skills equivalent to the ones you mentioned for CS, and get hired by a top hedge fund to be a maths autist
>All three are crap, shitty programming languages.
I don't get this statement, all three seem fine to me, for the tasks they are designed for and python is a great beginner language
>If he wants to earn money as developer, then he needs to learn software development principles, data structures, algorithms, programming paradigms, concurrency, security topics, etc etc.
True but he already stated he is a Jeet or Paki or whatever, and so he has an easy way in that will allow him to make tons of money for his country
>Just "learning a programmer language" won't give you money, it will simply make you compete with 1000 junior developers that aren't going to earn more than a minimal wage job.
There's other ways to make up for lack of skills like networking etc.
You can have just some knowledge in coding and go the management route and rise to the top even if you have good networking skills

>>106282423 (OP)
Well a general rule is to start with C so you can build your foundation. When you master C then you can start learning other languages.

>>106284260
>Why do pseuds always suck off Lisp?

chart is correct though

>>106284241
>with the language alignment chart at the left.

what I don't get is why Rust is retarded but Haskell not. I agree about the other axis lol

>>106285293
Rust is a lie just like the troons which support it.
It promises speed AND safety only you can't actually have both.

>>106282423 (OP)
Sex with men for money

>>106285672
Cash rolls in immediately

>>106282423 (OP)
Java but it's soulless.
If you want to make serious money start with anything and then learn reactive programming (WebFlux) but do it only after getting actually good at java and Spring. But I wouldn't even wish it upon the enemies.
It might even die a this point. because it's niche to begin with and now java have virtual threads (green threads) that has the same usecase without all the complexity.
WebFlux is annoying af, it's like someone wanted to code in haskell but had to work in java. With verbose bureaucracy and no first class support for these things and without the escape hatches to regular java. Everything is basically a monad and everything is lazy and you need to use non-blocking version of everything. You couldn't use most of Java, because regular Java is blocking. You can't expect the regular IDE to work with it. You can't debug this shit at all unless you have IntelliJ with some special plugin. I was the Eclipse user and had no tooling for this at all and hated working with this. I prefer Eclipse and the only way to work for me was to painstakingly test this shit by terminating the pipelines at various points. You can't inspect the state, because there is no state. My team picked it for a project without having a experience in it at all. We had double and no subscriptions bugs still after months of using the framework. We solved the bugs after all but the framework was a poor choice overall, because we didn't even utilize the backpressure because the consumer was Spring Boot service that couldn't consume streams so basically we had reactive pipelines until the endpoint which was synchronized at the end (defeating the purpose of the reactive framework). It was most frustrating and retarded experience I ever had. I still don't have a clue how to work with this shit and I don't want to relive it. Most programming is procedural, there is no transfer of knowledge for reactive. To a common program it's pure nonsense and mental masturbation.

>>106285929
This is one of such technologies where the person that understand this shit can ask for virtually any price. If they need this shit they will pay and such person is basically an unicorn, because I'm sure it will filter over 90% of developers. But if you are there for the money and you hate yourself go ahead.

Learn C, not C++, then write C++ as C with classes. Find an industry and learn relevant skills for it. You should spend time learning about the job market in your country.

>>106282423 (OP)
Java

Python and start learning how to implement AI libraries because that's the hot thing now.
If you are actually serious about programming, choose your niche and work on it, C is a good start in understanding the underlying principles without scratching your head over the esoteric nature of older languages nor be frustrated when it comes to portability.

>>106285929
>WebFlux is annoying af, it's like someone wanted to code in haskell but had to work in java. With verbose bureaucracy and no first class support for these things and without the escape hatches to regular java. Everything is basically a monad and everything is lazy and you need to use non-blocking version of everything. You couldn't use most of Java, because regular Java is blocking. You can't expect the regular IDE to work with it. You can't debug this shit at all unless you have IntelliJ with some special plugin. I was the Eclipse user and had no tooling for this at all and hated working with this. I prefer Eclipse and the only way to work for me was to painstakingly test this shit by terminating the pipelines at various points. You can't inspect the state, because there is no state. My team picked it for a project without having a experience in it at all. We had double and no subscriptions bugs still after months of using the framework. We solved the bugs after all but the framework was a poor choice overall, because we didn't even utilize the backpressure because the consumer was Spring Boot service that couldn't consume streams so basically we had reactive pipelines until the endpoint which was synchronized at the end (defeating the purpose of the reactive framework). It was most frustrating and retarded experience I ever had. I still don't have a clue how to work with this shit and I don't want to relive it. Most programming is procedural, there is no transfer of knowledge for reactive. To a common program it's pure nonsense and mental masturbation.
this guy knows his stuff.. listen to this guy... I know cause I agree mono is shit

>>106282423 (OP)
It’s too late for you; entry level and jr dev positions don’t exist anymore and even if they did the pay would be horrendous

>>106282423 (OP)
Money?
Python or webdev (JS, HTML, CSS)
Add some extra computer skills like Excel and SQL and you will be swimming in money

>>106284260
People think it’s some kind of Atlantean language, since several “great” features of programming languages originated from it. It also used a different style compared to other languages, which gives it a kind of wizard like feel

>>106282423 (OP)
The patrician choice.