Thread 106284387

Retardation removed edition.

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>106262207

>>106284387 (OP)
>Epz removed
Shit thread

>>106284413
more like thread saved. epz is trash.

>>106284423
subtonic storm.
you don't want it.

>>106284444
thanks are they worst than my zero:2?

>>106284483
Yes.

>>106284486
sucks they looks so cool, I like the design. why all good looking iems are shit while ugly ass forms iem are top tier

>>106284483
oof, no actually they're way better lol. what I meant is that at $5200, you shouldn't spending that on one pos. ever.

>>106284430
I wasn't aware today was opposite day, but sure I'll play along.
Epz is trash and I totally hate it. wink wink nudge nudge lol

>>106284499
>BA pos
>way better

>>106284507
yes. you are a woman.

>>106284499
>5200
poorfagbros...I wish I was rich

>>106284516
>BA
>can't be fixed with EQ
please tell me this is your stance right now

>>106284522
Thanks, I'm FtM so that actually means alot :3

>>106284535
Yes. It literally has different FR at different volume, what are you supposed to EQ. Not to mention horrific 3rd order distortion.

>>106284554
ah. so a REAL lesbo, huh?

>>106284494
Fox IEM doesn't have this problem.

>>106284387 (OP)
>EQzo debunks CSD
>techtards steal OP and remove it
Being anti-science is not funny!

>>106284561
Nah too late, I caught you in 4k being trans-positive, chuddie. Can't take it back now <3

>>106284572
*sigh*, still searching IEM to replace my zero:2...

>>106284583
Oh shit I didn't even notice lol, I guess I'll just post it here
>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>>106284643
thanks for posting this for nobody to read

>>106284695
You have to have a very high IQ to understand the EQ Guide.

>>106284722
knowing that would require reading it, and nobody has ever read it

>>106284722
True.

>>106284615
ea500lm

>>106284751
thanks need something under 50 bux

>>106284695
Yep, just got done reading the EQ guide and man, was I blown away. Guidezo's descriptions are surgical yet so punchy it's exhilirating. You're simply missing out if you still haven't read it.

>>106284923
you didnt read it

Sicko Mode or Mo Bamba?

>>106284592
I'll fuck a tranny, that's it.

>>106285014
Heil Hitler

Tech Believers, rise up

why the fuck should anybody trust the eq guide when there's no author or citations?

>>106285087
in order to trust it you'd first have to read it, and nobody has ever read it so it's really a pointless question

>>106285087
Vax status?

>>106285094
I read it and it was a bunch of uncited gobbledeegook with no author.

>>106285095
transition status? oh that's right ywnbam

Noteworthy Gossip From SIAS
>Tanchjim showcased new engineering prototype of the Kara Pro and a hybrid iem with unknown info
>Truthear new dual DD IEM with 10mm + 12.5mm stacked DD, ugly shape
>Softears RSV mk2, Se6 Live, the new RS10, RSX AE Edition, Edge, and Karma
>Moondrop there's a new collab with cringy (Meteor tuned to IEF 2025). New tws updates Space Travel 2 Ultra and Golden Ages 2 with their planar driver and 5128 VDSF tuning
>EPZ P70 and 530 Pro
>Hiby Yula is a low end single DD IEM with PEEK diaphragm and shure-like shell, price is 288 yuan or about 40$. Hiby x FAudio Project Ace JP feature a 12mm DD with triple air chamber for acoustic purpose and a 1.2 tesla power magnetic core, price is 1998 yuan or 278$
>Seeaudio next flagship in the seeapex series, support customization in shell and tuning, cost even more than the Mobius I ( 7800$ )
>7hz x Fatfreq prototype, dual planar setup tune to pop/vocal

PMP/Dongle
>Truthear portable amp/dac with a volume knob similar to HiBy W4 form factor
>Shanling/Onix new Beta dongle featuring 2x CS43198 and tube amp to output upto 550mw@32 ohms
>HiBy W4 is a DAP featuring dual cirrus logic cs43198 + 1500mah battery + qcc5181, with the ability to turn into usb DAC and bluetooth DAC. Other feature include Magsafe for iphone and "uncharge" mode where the w4 in it's usb dac mode use the internal battery instead of power from type C.
>Hiby R6 PRO II 2025 feature dual Cirrus Logic CS4308P DAC and a aluminium shell compare to the r6p2. Price is 4698 yuan or 650$
>Hiby new RS8II DAP, the most powerful DAP yet with Snapdragon 8 gen 2, no info yet
>Fiio M27 DAP feature Qualcomn Dragonwing QCS6490 which is the extended support version of the Snapdragon 778G, pair with a QCC5181 bluetooth codec, android 13, 8+256 onboard storage and 9200 mah replacable battery the DAC part feature a pair of ESS9039s PRO with discrete opamp upto 5w@32 ohms per channel output

the real tech sleeper

>>106285135
>Seeaudio next flagship in the seeapex series, support customization in shell and tuning, cost even more than the Mobius I ( 7800$ )
Mogged by g10.

>>106285186
mogged by >>106285139

>>106285197
>no customization
Literal garbage.

wtf

>epzigger claims he doesn't care about his pos being in the op
>immediate melty when its removed
well that was a fuckin lie

lol... Fun fact. I was comparing daybreaks to all my other POS... and wyverns remaster with my usual EQ and coffee tips basically sounded almost the same. I even put daybreak in one ear and wyvern in the other and it didn't feel like I'm wearing 2 different IEMs. Not sure what I was expecting desu...(About my EQ - I wasn't trying to match JM-1 or anything just added a bit more bass, more mids, and was moving treble shelf around until music stopped sounding "muffled". I don't usually lower 3k but did for this comparison). So yeah make of that what you will.

>>106285204
I hope those chinks put the shenzhen curse on you to where your buttplugs give you uncurable hemerrhoids or your lose a buttplug in your butt, whichever comes first

>>106285135
>no innovation
>no good budget deals
>no originality
GRIM AS FUCK

>>106285087
https://mega.nz/folder/cchSBaBQ#WwAguZeGclZkxzvwVNSryQ/folder/Nd5A1YhQ
here's your citations you dumb fucking faggot

did moondrop show off anything new or was that just a nothingburger?

Is it any good? The f**o's one was so bad they ended production in a month.

>>106285262
they did but also it was a nothingburger

>>106285259
took you long enough, anon with no credibility whatsoever.
>eq guide shills is literally just the author confirmed

>>106285358
Is this your latest cope?

>>106285252
>innovation
we've hit the ceiling in what we can do with pos.... what do you want???

>>106285366
coping would be to wake up every morning without a cock in between your legs, then fighting god every day because of it

>>106285285
fiio is gonna release a new one

>>106285380
Damn, that's rough buddy.

>>106285296
so no new IEMs? or was it just accessories and shit?

>>106285358
guide is based on years of research lol why ask for citations when you are too stupid to read? fuck off clown

>>106285435
transgenderism isn't based in science, yet here you are.

>>106285435
meltroon take it easy that research is just wet paper done with minimal rigor

in all seriousness, though, thanks for the link to all that material. it's a lot to read.

always a shock to me that people still are not checking the links in OP despite hanging around here a lot
all of the value is there and yet no one actually uses them, it's being wasted here

>>106285372
time to solve mod length resonance problem

>>106285516
and driver quality

What?? Didn't you check the OP Links?? I'm flabbergasted and shocked!!

>>106285445
you are mentally ill

>>106285516
EQ solved it
>and driver quality
EQ solved it too

>>106285532
the market says otherwise

>>106285545
The market is at the same stage as DACs and amps. When perfection costs $20 you have to return imperfections to stand out.

>>106285532
you can't expect normies to EQ mod length resonances out lol
>>106285521
shut up lol

P-please check my guide bros im not feeling good...

eq guide = trooniversity

>>106285262
2DD pos
tws pos
cringy meteor retune collab

>>106286033
WTF IS THAT???? im all for bullets but jesus christ

not to diminish eqzo's work and dedication, but if i wrote a very detailed and relevant guide for a very niche community and only 2 people read it, i'd kill myself

>>106286082
0 people

>>106286082
When EQ Guide was in the rentry at least 6784 people read it.
https://archive.ph/mpj6G

>>106286125
clicking the link doesn't = reading.

CrinEar Monolith
H y p e !!

>>106286166
NOW WE ARE TALKING

>>106286125
lol i still have the old rentry link

>>106286166
interesting color choice

>>106286125
i clicked the link by mistake 6700 times (did not read), the rest was eqzo

hi

SIAS > CanJam

Yes!

>>106286755
dang you almost couldn't even tell jim used to be male

TRANS JIM

why does my dac/amp makes heavy static white noise when I leave it plugged in overnight?

>>106287902
because its shit (many such cases)

>>106286755
Let me inspect your feet my queen...

>>106287902
I've seen one DAC that starts hissing when you reboot PC while it's plugged in. So might be some power saving settings disabling USB at night. Just get a different DAC.

Wow the subhuman rusbum deleted /aicg/'s pic cause it featured a fox

>>106286082
Its existence makes you throw tantrums every time EQ is mentioned, so bravo, guidezo. If I had to spend days trying to take down a link I'd kill myself.

>>106288333
AI lost.

The Myths and Misconceptions section of the eq guide is actually good, and everyone should read it.

>>106288425
Russia/ukraine lost

>>106288467
too bad, nobody will ever read it.

>>106288622
Why are you seething? The section is not even long.

why is epz g10 so good, bros?

>>106288467
>p-please read my eq guide i beg you

what am i in for

>>106289563
chinesium

editor here
send help

Which one, /ck/?

>>106291261
ST2

>>106291261
redmi buds 6 play, as per scarbir.com

>>106291324
Why do you people trust randoms from the internet that want to sell you shit so they get money from referrals?

>>106291455
because I believe in the goodness of people

I actually got the IE200. I had two reasons for doing so -- I found a good deal for them used at a fair price, and they have a small nozzle diameter.
The smallest stock silicone tips are the only ones that fit my baby ears. If the nozzle was even a millimeter larger in diameter, I doubt it'd fit.
Sound is good. Nothing compared to my planars yeah, but good. A little hollow. I did the tape mod and took damping foam from another pair of the stock tips and added that to the ones I use for double damping, which slightly reduced some sibilance I was experiencing. Chi-fi at the same price range obviously beats these, but for my circumstances (baby ears) these are very good.
Isolation is a bit disappointing, but alright enough, better than my closed backs at least. The microphonic cable is the worst part and I'm getting another one ASAP.
No regrats.

https://www.amazon.com/HiFiGo-Tanchjim-Bunny-Magnetic-Enthusiasts/dp/B0DNK3JPTG

https://www.amazon.fr/%C3%89couteurs-intra-auriculaires-filaires-polyur%C3%A9thane-ergonomique/dp/B0F37WQM76

https://www.amazon.fr/Rosefinch-intra-auriculaires-diaphragme-biologique-microphone/dp/B0BB9C6QPV

which one I buy?

>>106291892
Bunny

>>106291892
epz g10

>>106291892
bunny

So we all agree that the EQ guide is dogshit right?

>>106294046
what's dogshit about it?

>>106285042
Tell me how to EQ techs if they a real. Pro tip: you won't.

>>106294046
How would you know it's dogshit. You haven't read it.

>>106291892
hard to go wrong with either of these since all of them are poorfag trash

>>106294046
i sold my storm after ive learned that i could just eq a $10 set to it

>>106294411
Why did you buy that pos...

>>106294087
richfag need not apply

>>106294087
I bet you can't buy 5400$ real iem LMAO

Got my fiio jm21 yesterday, sounds absolutely fantastic but the fiio app is dogshit. Ended up just developing my own music player because the ones on the play store just don't get it. I am an autistic foobar diehard though

>>106294411
Hahahahahahaha
Baaaahahahahah
EQ is cope

>impulse busted
>square wave busted
>csd busted
eqzo GOAT

at what price it is considered a IEM is good quality?

>>106294743
>quality
>price
Why are you judging the quality of a product based on its price?

>>106294743
$20.

>>106294743
if you want to be retarded then just buy daybreaks

>>106294749
because of his post >>106294087

>>106294764
ok thanks
>>106294798
no thanks
sorry im ESL

Nora looking good.
Elua Ultra looking fantastic.

>>106295254
mogged by edc pro

I predicted the asano castle

hello /pmpg/
can someone recommend a good garbage chinese player for like $30. I don't care about audio quality.

>>106295739
head to your local walmart and look for something

>>106294067
nobody has

>>106295356
epzigger false flag, kz and transjim are allied

Techs

>>106295961
Rent-free.

Any decent cheap dongle DAC that has EQ?

>>106296114
VE ODO or jcally jm12 + JA11 firmware (5band)
JA11 (5band)
JIEZI (10band but not 3.5mm available yet)
JM20 Pro (8band)

>>106294411
$10 drivers have too little distortion to sound like storm. It's like trying to make digital audio to sound like vinyl. Not happening.

>>106296195
just EQ distortion in

you cant eq your gender

>constantly thinks and posts about gender
the jokes write themselves really

>thread full of trannies
>hurr why are you talking about trannies
eqtroons man theyre so stupid

>also obsessed with trannies
holy shit my sides

speaking of troons, i miss taintzo :3

I'm currently split on picking up fiio JM21 or M21 during this upcoming ali sale, on one hand I really like pocket ability and form factor of JM21, but the battery life and plastic build quality makes me lean towards M21 which gets me worried that it might be a literal brick and too annoying to carry. Anyone own any of these devices and can comment on this?

>waaah stop talking about trannies
no, i am obsessed

>diamong diaphragm
holy techs !

>>106296721
>frankenstein pos
now THIS is the pinnacle of sonics

Tired of fragile DSP dongles and no volume control? Get Dawn Pro 2!

Need 20 band PEQ.

Why did the community get gaslighted for JM-1 DF when it's the same thing as 5128 DF, considering the ISO tolerance?

*Thieaudio Redemption*

S T A Y T U N E D、a new era of tribrid begins

>>106297000
Happens naturally when people get into the weeds of things
Really not important, this difference is overshadowed by in-situ and psychoacoustic differences.

>>106297109
>t-4 mo. till 2026
>not a quad/quintbrid
DOA POS

>>106297109
saar do not redeem

>>106296975
20 band PEQ with L/R split to correct channel imbalance is endgame, but that will NEVER happen.

>>106297178
qudelix exists bro

>>106297196
too big

budget qudelix in jm20 form factor when

>>106297000
what are you asking? JM-1 DF is pop average DF instead of 5128 DF. Who got gaslighted by what?

>>106297519
my nigga... pop average means nothing without context and the demographic data. 5128 is already based on the average of a population
>Who got gaslighted by what?
by denying 5128 DF in favor of JM-1, if you show a pos graph with 5128 DF people think it's wrong now

i kneel to guidezo-haterzo, it seems like no one has read the eq guide
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/rigs-curves-targets/#%CE%B4-and-jm-1-curve-711--5128

Nooo... I need JM-1 1/3 smoothed DF to ditch muh pinna effects, the extra 1dB ruins 5128 DF for pos since they bypass the pinna! Also population average with N=30 is the truth!

>>106297566
>pop average means nothing without context and the demographic data
well look it up? do you think it's a secret or something?
>by denying 5128 DF in favor of JM-1, if you show a pos graph with 5128 DF people think it's wrong now
5128 DF is too bright for IEMs because of its pinna

>>106297643
you are supposed to add you preference anyway

>>106297597
i don't hate guidezo, i just simply state the fact that nobody has ever read the eq guide
the eq guide is more of a deity or mythological figure, not an actual guide to be read. when eqzos tell you to read the eq guide, it is the same as when a religious cultist tells you "god said so"

>guidezo is god
AGREED!

>>106298084

Eq fags need to seek Repentance for your sins and lack of faith
No-EQ was and always be the way as God intended us to hear. It's absolutely God's law to listen with no EQ
Fuck off with the eqguide

>>106297857
I did. It's just a small dataset of blocked ear canals, and people act as if JM-1 is the global population representative.
>5128 DF is too bright for IEMs because of its pinna
So is raw JM-1. If you are going to add preference adjustments, it doesn't matter.

>>106298352
>I did. It's just a small dataset of blocked ear canals, and people act as if JM-1 is the global population representative.
it was confirmed by harman's measurements and other research tho
>If you are going to add preference adjustments, it doesn't matter.
well yes
it doesn't matter

>>106298352
>So is raw JM-1
nobody is using raw jm-1 tho

>>106298084
You foaming at the mouth that nobody read it doesn't mean nobody read it.

this makes poorfags seethe

>>106297178
Infinite bands and infinite channels with convolution.
>>106297196
When you switch to separate L/R it has 10 bands.
>>106298836
Homer IEM, endgame.

>>106299057
foxpeaker where?

>>106298836
nice hose

>>106299080
I put foxes on my speakers.

>>106299130
isn't it about time you innovate mr fengru? maybe some fox prints on that, a bit of fox piss perfume?

pagpag emperor reporting in

>>106299355
>$23
woah don't extend beyond your rea-
>$0.58
nvm, i kneel

>>106299355
>>106299375
You'd have to pay ME to use that shit. Probably the worst IEM driver ever made.

You cant equalize yourself into a woman

Any cables you guys like for the Truthear Nova? The stock one uses 2 pin/0.78mm connector with 3.5mm termination, but it's a tad microphonic and my DAC has a 4.4mm port so it feels natural I should upgrade.

Currently looking at the Tripowin Noire, would that make for a good option?

Contrarianism doesn't make you cool or unique.
It just makes you an obnoxious sad lonely faggot.

>>106298417
>nobody is using raw jm-1 tho
I do, and I won't become tired telling you that I do.
>>106297000
For me, JM-1 and 5128 DF doesn't make any difference, because they only differ above 3 kHz, where I eq by ear anyway.

>>106245942
>because literally nobody cares lol it is funny tho I guess
well, nobody cares but we now have OP wars over it

why is epz g10 so good, /b/ros?

>>106300328
Exactly, there are only 2 genders, stop being contrarian

>>106297109
new thiefaudio pos hype????

>>106301345
omg a cringy collab but not a cringy collab but its a cringy collab

>>106300482
>I do, and I won't become tired telling you that I do.
my condolences

>>106301484
urgh nty

>>106301484
>Odyssey 2
so this actually came out mere months ago and there is a 2? oh chifi.
when will hangout get into twshit? moondorp space travel 3 pro plus?

>>106301484
>>106301904
chifi unironically owes everything to crin lol

>>106301978
and it will sell 10 units, not head-fi review samples :^)

chifi fatigue is at an all time high!

>>106302040
that's more than it would normally sell
>chifi fatigue is at an all time high
I'm not sure about that. A lot of people are jumping on IEM train lately
Tho gotta say most of new releases look rather grim. If crin is not involved it's usually some dumb fucking bullshit tuning chinks took out of their ass. Like VDSF moondrop shit out based on nothing (and they can't even tune their pos to it lol). Or literally random 711 target tanchjim uses.
So bad

I have added another page in the guide titled Target Modification meant as a way to bridge the gap between using targets and having a developed preference.

The Myths and Misconceptions page is also finished as far as what is already in it. I have other topics that I will add but they will come in slowly depending on what is relevant at the time.

I plan on adding more pages to the How to EQ section of the guide for all levels, which might include the use of commonly found graphic EQs, the use of FIR filters, the extraction of DFHRTFs from SOFA databases, auralization with head tracking, and more. Pages that are already there will be touched up from time to time; for any major updates, I will post about it.

I will also be doing a self-reflection on the guide at the end of the year based on what I and others have criticized about it, which will hopefully give more context on the guide and how I view it after 2 years since its initial conception.

I have mentioned another project a few times in the past. It is a similar guide focused on IEM comfort (see the plan here https://rentry.org/IEM-fit-comfort-guide). I will be putting this to the side this year, and will start working on it some time next year. I hope that for this one, I can have a few collaborators that are willing to contribute their experience and time into this.

Finally, some have communicated with me for permission to share the guide elsewhere or to modify it. I have no stance on the matter, the guide is open for anyone. If you wish to clone it and modify it then feel free to do so.

>>106302204
Uhm, cheesed to meet you?

>>106302204
>I plan on adding more pages to the How to EQ section of the guide for all levels, which might include the use of commonly found graphic EQs, the use of FIR filters, the extraction of DFHRTFs from SOFA databases, auralization with head tracking, and more.
sounds good

>>106285135
>Spacetravel 2
Damn is it finally time to upgrade my wireless pos? I have the Space Travel 1s and am looking for longer battery hours and better anc / wind noise generaton.
Or should I just shell out during a sale for the Robin's?

>>106299355
finna cop kz prx sub $20 b4 ali sale ends

>>106302991
next is $8 trn orca if I rake coins enough

>>106302846
space travel 2 does have longer battery life. space travel ultra will be planar tws which is interesting dunno what it'll mean for battery life

>>106303109
I'll wait and see. Definitely watchlisting the Robin's on Amazon (best no questions asked warranty in Europe).

>>106302204
shame nobody reads it

Fuck Truthhear Hola

>>106302204
>the extraction of DFHRTFs from SOFA databases
Getting the power average and sqrt is easy, but I doubt you'll teach how to weigh each data point according to its solid angle.

Is the KZ AE01 an okay choice for budget wireless adapters for the gym for the EPZ Q1 Pro? I'd rather waste a bit of money on good enough adapters than waste more on TWS crap that'll become landwaste once the batts die.

>>106304134
probably not

>>106304151
Any concrete reason why outside of /iemg/ brand loyalty and datasheet circlejerks?

Probably should've asked in /csg/ since they're actually helpful, my fucking bad.

>>106302991
how are those? some say they're better than artti t10s is that even true?

Are there any IEMs that are as comfortable and discreet as the Shure SE215s? Also need good passive isolation with foam tips.

>>106302204
Still needs that How to EQ Techs page broski. I know you can do it.

>>106304190
First of all the connector won't even fit q1 pros. You can remove the outer part to only leave the prongs but what you'll get is hissing garbage. "Good" bluetooth adapters cost more than tws.

>>106304291
So if adapters are out of the budget, are there any Bluetooth dongles worth a damn that don't cost an arm and a leg?

are there any TWS with the same quality as the starfields or better? budget is 200€

>>106304259
HiBy Yula the whitest man pos from a chink brand in a long time. It's gonna be $30. Not sure about isolation but it should be as good as any pos for high frequency

>>106304463
real pic

>>106304287
Epz official store on aliexpress.

Is this /iemg/ endgame?

>>106304512
lacks edc pro for sloppa endgame

>>106304512
No.

>>106304532
I have 2. Picrel is entire haul, Lafitear LF3 Pro and CCA CRA not included

>>106304532 #
I have 2. Picrel is entire haul, Lafitear LF3 Pro and CCA CRA not included

>>106304099
When (or if) I make such a page, I will not be explaining the steps to calculate it as it is far beyond the scope of the guide.
I will instead be providing the code needed to run this and potential modifications one might do depending on their goals. There is already a (MATLAB) script for such a purpose that calculates the area weight factors and will give you the DFHRTF of a selected SOFA file. You can ask Listener, he has access to it; I will not share it here as I do not want to ask permission from the author (not Listener).
The same applies to more advanced topics -that I might expand- like head tracking with auralization/binauralization and HRTF synthesis as explained in the More Advanced DSP section.
>>106304287
It is covered in the EQ Refinement section, which I might change to be a separate change, and in the Myths and Misconceptions section.

Techs are real my tulpa says so.

>>106304816
You can't EQ your chromosomes and skeleton.

>>106304827
Not with current tech. ;^)

>>106304840
ywneqyg

>he thinks he can EQ himself into a woman
>can't even EQ a Waner SG into a Waner SG 2
I have both. Post the settings and I'll compare.

Endgame is starting to look like K11 R2R -> TA-66 -> waner2s

is there a god of audio?

>>106305027
spritzer

Endgame is somewhere around K11 R2R -> TA-66 -> waner2s or vx pro+

you don't even listen to music

https://youtu.be/PB_8dGKh9JI
real techs

>>106305093
We only listen to real music.
https://soundcloud.com/joreii/judgement

>>106305027
many gods of audio, iemg also has a god >>106298147

>>106305243
wtf I love jobspods now

>>106305053
not for me

>>106305093
>listen
You don't experience music because you engage in autism too much.

Is there a pos that matches Hi-Fi audio utopia? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dny2S5YglkY

>>106305411
ironic that this probably measures like shit

>>106304427
bump

>>106296518
>JM21 or M21
they claim m21 is ~40 grams heavier, ~4mm thicker, ~3 hrs battery life difference. not much difference

>>106299795
>Tripowin Noire
sure that's fine. can prob find equivalent cables at cheaper

>>106304134
>>106304418
>budget wireless adapters
>Bluetooth dongles
no, there aren't good ones that are cheap. cheap tws are unironically cheaper with more intuitive functionality than any adapter or other solution you're looking for

>>106304259
>comfortable and discreet
tinhifi t1s, artti r2

>>106304427
>>106305875
>TWS with the same quality as the starfields
space travel 2 or robin. up to you if you want to spend more

>>106306193
The HiBy W3 II seems good to me, and if it's in the Rentry then I'll trust that it's good for me. Can't trust retards that post in the thread which OP's "recommendations" are constantly being vandalized to fit whichever schizo's spergout of the day.

But feel free to tell me why it's bad with all of your usual buzzwords that I don't fucking understand and then recommend some obscure overpriced piece of shit five other schizos will argue about how it's actually shit. It's a fucking miracle I was able to find out about the EPZ Q1 Pro's and Moondrop Spring Tips given how fucking useless you faggots are most of the time.

>>106306364
w3 ii is fine but mediocre
retro nano is imo a better product for only a bit more. comes with peq and more functionality. slightly worse battery life but replaceable battery
if you want you can wait for the hiby w4 coming out soon

>>106306216
>space travel 2
aren't these horrible?
>robin
might give them a shot
are these the only options? i'm not opposed to spending more, just not more than 200€

>>106306364
tws market is jam packed in the cheap price range. jbl, moondrop, qcy, soundpeats, etc.
look up w3 ii headfi, find the discussion thread (not the reviews), scour for negatives, bugs, etc.
it's prob cheap as heck plastic build.
u sound mad af. ignore retards, but understand we're not here to provide validation for stupid people and flawed products. you want to be shilled and hear BUY THIS BEST POS OF AUGUST 2025 HECKIN GOATED go to youtube "reviews." you want to hear about cons, shortcomings, and flaws (that virtually every product has) then there are helpful people who can share. ingest the info/opinion, make your own decision.

>>106306424
there are a variety of tws. see above post for brands (can also consider nothing, earfun, etc.) most offer presets / basic app eq, so settling on decent sound isn't a big issue. up to you what features, form factor, price you want

>>106306364
you should know we are a fairly slow board without many posters. it's genuinely no more than 2-4 retards who want to engage in internet arguments and trolling who are the "loudest," and most frequent posters. people who are satisfied with their lives and their gear aren't chronically posting.

>>106306473
>there are a variety of tws. see above post for brands (can also consider nothing, earfun, etc.)
which is why i asked in the first place
>eq
i don't eq ever, too much of a hassle and i'd spend more time finetuning it than listening to music only for it to sound like shit on the next song
>features
not being DoA in-box, ideally sweatproof? one (sometimes both) of my starfield basically stops working after wearing it for a few hours even after changing the filter(s), i can see the sweat on the metal mesh so i just wipe it off with a tissue and point it at my fan to dry it up. wasn't happening a year ago but it's much hotter than last year
never happens with my galaxy buds+ but they do sound like ass in comparison
>form factor
something slightly more comfortable than starfields/arias 2021 but i've worn those for long enough that they don't hurt my antitragi *as much* anymore
>price
up to 200€ but i guess i wouldn't mind stretching it to 250€

>>106306580
>which is why i asked in the first place
i'm not going to give you an in-depth breakdown of all of those brand's offerings and specific models. look into them. you clearly are not discerning, as your criteria is still wide open and non-specific. tws have many features such as multi-point connection, transparency mode, varying degrees of quality for anc, bt codecs, etc.
you seem to care about none of this. i don't think spending 250€ is wise, but you are free to buy whatever you want.
pick something from amazon, you can return if you don't like it.
imo some $25 beaters will suit you just fine, and will sound good enough.

>>106306580
oh and if 250€ is your budget, just pair with your phone. iphone:airpods, samsung:galaxy buds.
sony tws are fine, but underutilized if you don't have a device capable of LDAC bt codec. sony and bose have dumb fat design, poor ergonomics.

>>106306613
>you clearly are not discerning, as your criteria is still wide open and non-specific. tws have many features such as multi-point connection, transparency mode, varying degrees of quality for anc, bt codecs, etc, you seem to care about none of this

anon
i want the thing (or as close to it as possible) i already have (starfields) but wireless
how is that so hard to understand? i don't care about muh features, they just need to be wireless (which should imply having a decent codec at the very least but i guess you never know huh)
i don't care for the "try out 20 cheap shitters and return them all" meme, i'm not at the mercy of amazon returns, i don't wake up early for anyone unless they're paying me

>>106306723
>just pair with your phone
i'm shit out of luck then, i'm fairly sure nobody owns any of these

>>106306731
>how is that so hard to understand?
i cannot predict your mind and wants. you need to specifically disseminate that information through your posts, to which i can narrow down options. you've given me almost no information besides "ideally sweatproof," which means you simply look at the advertised IPXX rating specifications.
>sound
sound = frequency response. space travel 2 have a decent frequency response, in addition to being adjustable via app eq. this means you can get the sound of your starfields (nothing particularly special or unique whatsoever). intuitively, moondrop's wireless share similar tuning to their general house sound.

yeah i'm done talking to chatgpt ^

>>106306848
that's great. i tried to help you, gave you specific models, specific brands, and tried to get more details about what you wanted. you're welcome dumbass.

gptzo W

i miss gpt 4o so much bros... the 5 is so crap, no innovative arguments about techs

>>106307013
gpt 6 (eqzo) mogged that shitty model with the eq guide

Another successful day of IEM shopping.

what are the ksc75s of iems?

>>106307117
no bass and lots of treble? tin t2

>>106307117
nothing because the ksc75 has major flaws and is only good for the money
even the cheapest of iems are salvageable with eq

>>106307096
we don't care dumbass

>>106307117
earbuds

>>106307125
>>106307127
$20 pads and $5 headband and the bass problems are gone AND they're more comfortable, for $40 total they're a steal
also not about the sound, more like the price/performance

>>106307158
i don't think you understand what i mean by "salvageable" (my fault, this is not the correct word)
objectively, almost every iem with eq can be made into whatever you want with no caveat except for time and effort. it can become the absolute best iem you have ever heard (minus biases and other non-sound factors), performance is not limited by anything
ksc75 struggles with bass, treble notching, and the usual issues that come with headphones. you cannot eq them to be anything you want, you can only improve them to a certain degree

eq is only free if your time is worthless

>>106307262
nigga you're posting on 4c, ur time is worthless

>>106307331
actually i have chatgpt write all my posts for me

>>106307338
Then your time has negative value.

>>106307412
>t. bozo who argues with chatgpt

>>106306424
>aren't these horrible?
sound quality is great... everything else? well you get what you paid for

>>106284572
where did you get these?

>>106307777
otokonoko pharmaceuticals

>>106307797
cmon hun. i brew my own een. i don't inject myself with lillian's bathtub estradiol. get it right!

Do I buy the wooden IEM?

>>106302204
>FR measurements are all done by first measuring the IR of the IEM, then doing the Fourier transform of it to obtain the FR.
Directly measuring the IR sends a click through the system (as mentioned). We obtain the IR, but don't directly measure it.
The modern standard is based on an exponential sine sweep/log chirp, then convolved with the inverse filter for the correct response. But the inverse filter is defined in the frequency domain first.
>minimum-phase
In principle, you can hide surprisingly significant/audible things in the non-minimum phase response, such as a delayed reflection that breaks past the integration and masking filter*. But IEMs immediately preclude most of these possibilities: they're too small.
>these [CSD] plots can vary a lot based on the analysis parameters, and are ultimately unreliable methods of visualization that obfuscate the same information seen in FR
Time and frequency are linked by the Fourier Transform and inverse FT (DFT and IDFT). By analogy, we pass the input to a bank of tuned resonators (reeds, tuning forks, pipes, etc.) A more precisely tuned resonator bank can identify frequencies more clearly, but gets smeared out in time. In an idealized frequency-domain measurement, there is no sense of when things happened. This is better known as the (Heisenberg) Uncertainty Principle.
We don't have infinite bins for computational purposes, so you *could* display the joint time-frequency result. It wouldn't be useful if you kept the bin count high: the time domain would be too smeared out. And I don't think there's much of anything to find for the particular application.
The Heisenberg problem isn't new, and there are other solutions to time-frequency imaging, such as constant-Q or wavelets.

Exponential sine sweep from Angelo Farina
>https://www.angelofarina.it/Public/Papers/134-AES00.PDF
Floyd Toole has a paper on resonances and timbre, should be in the paper archive

get a job nerd

>>106302204
FR measurements are all done by first measuring the IR of the IEM, then doing the Fourier transform of it to obtain the FR.
Directly measuring the IR sends a click through the system (as mentioned). We obtain the IR, but don't directly measure it.
The modern measurement uses an exponential sine sweep/log chirp, then convolved with the inverse filter for the correct response. But the inverse filter is defined in the frequency domain first.
>minimum-phase
In principle, you can hide surprisingly significant/audible things in the non-minimum phase response, such as a delayed reflection that breaks past the integration and masking filter*. But IEMs immediately preclude most of these possibilities: they're too small.
>these [CSD] plots can vary a lot based on the analysis parameters, and are ultimately unreliable methods of visualization that obfuscate the same information seen in FR
Time and frequency are linked by the Fourier Transform and inverse FT (DFT and IDFT). By analogy, we pass the input to a bank of tuned resonators (reeds, tuning forks, pipes, etc.) A more precisely tuned resonator bank can identify frequencies more clearly, but gets smeared out in time. In an idealized frequency-domain measurement, there is no sense of when things happened. This is better known as the (Heisenberg) Uncertainty Principle.
We don't have infinite bins for computational purposes, so you *could* display the joint time-frequency result. It wouldn't be useful if you kept the bin count high: the time domain would be too smeared out. And I don't think there's much of anything to find for the particular application.
The Heisenberg problem isn't new, and there are other solutions to time-frequency imaging, such as constant-Q or wavelets. But that goes back to the utility problem: what is there to see?

Floyd Toole has a paper on resonances and timbre, should be in the paper archive

>>106308357
being a nerd on 4chin has to be an extremely humiliating and humbling experience

>>106307777
>>106304505

>>106308127
Yes.

so uh...eq guide...
yay or nay?

>>106310402
Makes frogposter mad. Big yay.

>>106310402
idk, nobody has read it

>>106308127
>>106310021
I can already hear the organic timber...

>>106304722
Holy shit just buy one good iem lmao

>>106310402
scientistic drivel of one soγjak with no satisfying conclusion, avoid
better watch just one of the old gizaudio's videos where timmy says how to expand soundstage with just a few simple EQ tricks which actually works and you'll have much more practical skill in just 10 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_YadTMoKTo
>inb4 watching retarded youtubers
if you have eq guide as an alternative, youtube is actually a great option

>>106311082
>he think he can eq soundstage
Lmao no, get a good source and iem

>>106311092
you not only can EQ soundstage, you can also give it a nice depth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLb00UW6q1k
just give it a try, it doesn't cost you anything

>>106311105
>reviewer
>but only when its convenient
Some iems have better soundstage than others, you'll have to cope, seethe, troon out, dilate, and 41% about it

>>106311122
Untrained listener moment.

>>106311127
>ad hominem
Troons and turd worlders dont deserve good iems i guess

>>106311129
>ad hominem is le bad unless it's me calling people smarter than me trannies

>>106311157
Its funny you'll say anything but "im actually not a tranny"

>>106311171
Anything to make your posts disappear, baby.

Any cable recommendations for Truthear Pure?

Hello saars, any new good pos release lately?

>>106311374
buy a truthear gate and grab the cable

why is epz g10 so good, bros?

>>106312255
if it's so good why are you eqing it

>>106312301
Everything needs EQ.

>>106312400
length mode issues? just eartip-roll till it fixes it
too bright? copper cable and CS/R2R dacs
too dark? silver cable and ESS/ROHM dacs
you don't need EQ when you know how to match the synergy

>>106312444
Could have just said you're deaf.

>>106312444
This is a falseflag troon

>>106296144
Do these work on iphones with lightning?

>>106312144
ended up buying a cable from openheart instead

Planar pos...

>>106311774
>good pos
no such thing

>>106312727
>>106312727
>>106312727