Thread 106284822

>>106209378
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet + the TrackPoint
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

Model generations:
>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42
>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)
>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)
>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)
>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)
>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)
>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)

BIOS replacement:
https://coreboot.org/downloads.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/
https://canoeboot.org/docs/install/

Additional resources:
https://dankpads.com/tpg/
https://biosimage.booru.org
https://1vyra.in

Patches:
https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patches
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

Chat:
##ibmthinkpad on libera
#/tpg/ on rizon

Has anyone done external SPI flashing for libreboot? I have a T430 and the site says that's the recommended way that model but internal would obviously be much easier.

quiet night

>>106286585
It's the weekend. /tpg/ usually dies Friday night and has to be resurrected later on Sat or Sun.

>>106284822 (OP)
I chastised /sqt/. >>106282127

Tired of seeing questions like:
>guys I need a $100 laptop that will run Battlefield 6. I found this Thinkpad T41, I just need step by step instructions to upgrade the GPU and get 64GB of RAM. I don't have a screwdriver but I can borrow one from my dad.

>>106284822 (OP)
What laptop would you recommend for good battery life and silent when on but cheapest shit as possible? I do not care about anything else

Silent night, holy night
All is calm, all is bright
Round yon Virgin Mother and Child
Holy infant so tender and mild
Sleep in heavenly peace

>>106287968
x270 with dual battery running LXQT or XFCE DE

>>106288060
lxde

>>106288129
>lxde
depreciated by lxqt

>>106284822 (OP)
I have a T470 and currently it has an NVME drive in the 2.5" bay
Isn't there a way to plug in the SSD directly to the motherboard and use a second SATA drive?

>>106288601
You could get some sort of breakout board/cable for the WWAN slot which is wired for both SATA and NVMe. Either M.2 (B+M) to SATA and reuse the board from your existing caddy, or M.2 (B+M) to M.2 (M) plus the usual SATA cable for the bay.

>>106287968
>good battery life and silent when on but cheapest shit as possible? I do not care about anything else
My $30 samsung chromebook 4 is silent (fanless) and the battery last around 10 hours,
decent enough for browsing the web, but i won't recommend it if you need more than chrome and web apps

>>106284822 (OP)
>tfw just realized my X230 can play Dark Souls PTDE & 2 SotFS at 720p 30fps
Not bad for a $28 laptop

>>106286212
If you have to ask, then you're better off buying one pre-flashed (check on eBay).

>>106288145
>qt
wrong and gross

>>106289710
What other loonix toolkit meets basic usability requirements like
>being keyboard accessible at all
>not locking keyboard access keys behind an irritating unconfigurable delay
>not immediately hiding them when you release Alt

I finally got my refurbished x390. Common sense says I should reppace the HDD first before doing anything? Or should I just go ahead and start building my linux experience.

Where do I buy an original keyboard for my T480s? I bought it from ebay and it seems to have some non-oem keyboard that feels mushy and really cheap, significantly worse than even my t14s G3. Does aliexpress have legit chicony or liteon keyboards?

>>106290411
You don't need to replace it unless you are anticipating needing more space. Wipe it and install your OS of choice.

Even then you can upgrade your drive later. You'll just need an external nvme adapter and there are guides to move everything over without reinstalling.

>>106290418
I wouldn't trust AE at all for genuine parts. If it were me I'd find a legit recycler on eBay and buy one from them.

thinkbump

Do laptops typically still run without a battery while powered with USB-C?

Just upgraded the T420 to Debian 13. Ask me anything

>>106292456
Why are you using a proprietary spyware browser on Debian?

>>106292532
I've tried using librewolf, ungoogled chromium and other stuff at various times but it never sticks. I am shame

>>106292456
which 1080p screen mod is this?
is it available to buy? how hard to install it?

>>106292456
why don't you replace touchpad sticker?

>>106292727
>is it available to buy? how hard to install it?
nta but I installed WQHD on T430 and the process is mostly the same (except you buy different components)
all you need is the adapter (IPS mod kit) and any compatible display
if buying from ali, make sure to check they send the exact model they put in title, because many times it will be a "compatible" one (might be also compatible with the adapter, but will be shittier in brightness or colors)
then remove keyboard, palmrest, display, swap in new panel, plug in adapter, a bit of cable management and assemble it, done

>>106292580
If you're fine with proprietary, take the Vivaldipill. The comfiest Chromiumslop browser on the market.

No I'm not being paid for shilling, been a happy user since the Techincal Preview/Beta versions since 2015.

Need a laptop i can buy refurbished that has
>NVME slot
>two SODIMM slots
>FHD screen
>unsoldered WiFi
>backlit keyboard would be nice
Does such a thing exist?

>>106292110
Works with all nupads I've used so far. X270 T470(s) T480(s) Lx80 Lx90 Ex90 T14G1

>>106292836
I'd say T14 G2 or even something like the L14 G5 if you're looking for new, but both have soldered WiFi. Or the ol' reliable T480 if you're fine with a lightly dated CPU. At the same time IIRC the ThinkPads that don't solder it have a WLAN whitelist so you'd be SOL either way in terms of upgradeability but feel free to call me a retarded niggerfaggot cocksucker if I'm wrong.

>>106292808
Will try Vivaldi. Thanks
>>106292727
It's been since 2019 that I installed so can't remember exact part numbers but everything came from Aliexpress. Just needed the screen and an adapter. Installation was pretty easy, just have to find a spot to shove the adapter so it doesn't get in the way of anything. All in all it was pretty painless and well worth it
>>106292737
I keep meaning to. Will put that on the list

>tfw my T440p one day just didn't want to turn on anymore
welp..guess it's time for a new one.

>>106292836
I don't remember if the Elitebook I bought for my sister's kid had soldered wifi but that ticked every other box you're looking for. My T14 gen 1 has a ram slot for expandability but has 16gb soldered.

>>106292727
lo and behold I just logged into my ali account after years and they're still selling the parts I bought
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832614222630.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832650353585.html
Can confirm those work perfectly

>>106292456
Why haven't you installed coreboot and installed a 3632qm in that thing?

How are Elitebook the past few years?

>>106293457
I was really gung ho about coreboot in 2021 and went to Microcenter to buy a Raspberry Pi specifically for the purpose but they only had Pi 3's and not the 4 I wanted and the 3 they had was way overpriced due to the "supply chain" bullshit at the time so I shelved the idea for later
>later hasn't come yet

>>106292836
>>106292886
L14 G2-G4 AMD fit these, though G2 has a smallish battery and G3-G4 take only the more expensive 2242 drives. Wifi isn't whitelisted, only WWAN is.

>>106292580
Take the Brave-pill. It's open source and has built in adblock that actually works on Chromium (since Google killed uBlock last year).

>>106292836
T14 gen 1 AMD checks every box except one dimm is soldered. I bought one with a ryzen 4650u for $217 on ebay, threw in a second 8gb dimm and 1tb hmb nvme. Came with 99% original battery life left.

4000 series is such a stepup from the previous gens, the CPU only need 8w to fully boost a core to 4.1ghz or whatever it is, if you set battery saving mode in win11 it caps TDP to like 10w, the fan almost never comes on but the machine feels very responsive for browsing and stuff. I get 7-9hrs on a full charge, usually I just cap the charging at 70% because I never run it below 20% like that.

Also being able to play many vidya such as ps2 emulation is pretty nice. Many games like dark souls 3 are playable in 720p.

>>106293732
you can literally do it with a RPi Pico if you have another laptop or PC, which costs like 3$ on ali

>>106295375
Interesting. I'll check back into it then

>>106292808
>e-waste destroyer
I like vivaldi. If you have a good computer that is.

>>106296216
Vivaldi is probably lighter than Chrome at this point.

>>106296284
That's not saying much.

>>106296401
I know.

Librewolf just werks for me, never looking back since I made the jump in 2022.

Just got a T14, my first owned laptop, and also planning to take my first step into Linux with KDE Neon. Any advice or just thoughts for a total newbie?

>>106297142
TLP-UI and this github project
https://github.com/AdnanHodzic/auto-cpufreq
Linux rapes laptop battery life. My T14 used to get about 2 to 3 hours on a full charge, then with TLP it got about 4 to 5. Now I get about what I would get in Windows.

>>106296435
I've found that Firefox with Zero user.js (https://pastebin.com/z2fsL15G) works a lot better than Librewolf.

>>106297300
Ain't there conflicts between the two? It's been a while since I looked at auto CPU

>>106297142
Gayland for better battery life

>>106292580
>>106294510
Warning; Brave is not open source. Brave is proprietary and doesn't even have reproducible binaries. "Source code" provided is actually 100% unrelated to the actual Brave binaries. If you try to compile it (nobody has ever done this), you just get different browser binaries that doesn't even have Brave branding. If you have orange Brave logo, Brave name and other branding in your Brave, then it is 100% proprietary non-free black box spyware.

>>106299669
How is this different from every other "FOSS" browser worth using? Even Firefox as released became nonfree this year when they put clickwrap on the binaries.

>>106299669
The claim that “Brave is not open source” and is “100% proprietary” is false. Brave’s source code is public under the Mozilla Public License 2.0 and lives on Brave’s official GitHub; anyone can audit or build it. Official Brave releases use branding (logo, name) for trademark reasons—a standard open source practice. Developers have built Brave from source; the claim “nobody has ever done this” is incorrect. While Brave is working towards fully reproducible builds, its binaries are auditable and routinely examined by privacy experts. Brave’s open code and frequent review make it the opposite of a “black box.” The commenter’s claims are misleading.

To summarize:
>Not open source
False: Fully open source code
>Proprietary
False: Branding assets only for trademark
>Not reproducible
In progress; binaries are auditable
>Nobody builds it
False: Built by developers/users
>Black box spyware
False: Code is public and reviewed

Sources:
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfwYlB7S3yQ
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44826997
[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/g6r4qo/is_brave_completely_open_source_or_mostly_open/
[4] https://codered2014.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/CodeRedE20185-17-18Dist4.pdf
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)
[6] https://lepoch.at/files/phd-thesis.pdf
[7] https://brave.com/glossary/open-source/
[8] https://bestofai.com/allArticles
[9] https://brave.com
[10] https://lab.cccb.org/en/robot/

>>106301148
Don't bother anon, you're arguing with GNUtard cultists that call anything that's not copylefted proprietary and call anything that does as much as a simple update check ping spyware. Mentally ill people, let them live in their own delusions.

>>106301148
Which chatbot wrote this? I don't necessarily disagree with it but at least cite the source when you decide to copy and paste LLM spew

>>106301780
>Which chatbot wrote this?
Perplexity

>>106301148
based

My new ThinkPad
>inb4 pajeet
ok, I don't hate you guys.
>inb4 E series
That's what I can afford, it's E14 Gen 6 Intel (21M7S0P600)
>inb4 windows
I plant to use it for College, I need to use Visual Studio
I eventually hope to buy a proper P series workstation some day, maybe after I get a Job

>>106298954
Battery life on linux sucks no matter what you do, Lenovo vantage doesn't work on it either.

>>106287968
good battery life and cheap don't go together bruh

>>106304916
It looks very nice. Nonetheless..
>install gentoo

>>106304916
I had option to buy t14 gen 2 amd or e14 gen 7 amd. Picked e14 because t14 has qualcom wifi that is soldered and ram... I know the quality aint as good, but i respect my stuff and dont throw it around. Ive been using super cheap hp laptop for past 3 years and nothing broke.

>>106304916
Looks nice, I like it. Would have opted for AMD myself. If you are a jeet, stay in India and we can stay internet friends and admire one another's people and cultures from afar.

>>106292456
Whats in the self improvement folder

thinkbump

>>106304916
>inb4 pajeet
/tpg/ is total poorfag general. We're a lot less racist when it comes to sharing the plight of poverty.

>>106304916
Very good cleaning your floors saar, please teach your brothers this super power you have discovered

>>106304916
>SHITel
I'd rather take G6 AMD.

I'll never understand why the Intel versions have better gpu pairings than the AMD ones

>>106308443
AMD models had CPU with higher TDP and lower Battery capacity.

I got an ex-business HP ProBook 650 G4 with the BIOS password locked. No it's not stolen. Is there anything I can do to unlock it? Looks like no but thought I'd double check.

I'm fine with flashing something but ideally wouldn't want to solder anything.

>>106309188
Looks like it's possible but a real pain in the ass. I'd try to get your money back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsA6UPP0qcg

>>106308864
AMD iGPU is better than the discrete GPU pairings with Intel.

>>106309501
I've seen 8 GB iGPU, is that good enough to beat the 16GBs I see in some specs?

>>106284822 (OP)
Is a W530 i7 vPro Workstation 1TB SSD 32Gb worth $400?
I'm thinking about this one or an m1 for $200 extra

I have a t460s upgrading to 20gig with a 1tb Ssd. Was a mint user, which distro should I move on to?

>>106295104
How much of a performance penalty is having DIMMs of different sizes anyway? I'm put off from buying laptops with a soldered slot because of the size mismatch if I upgrade but maybe it doesn't actually matter.

>>106287968
Latitude 7300
>>106310395
not really. maybe 200 or 250

>>106310944
>Latitude 7300
make sure to upgrade the bios, otherwise it will run like a freaking jet engine. the battery life is alright but it's not that great compared to the power bridge thinkpads.

posted from a Latitude 7300

>>106311038
>power bridge
well yeah. the t470/t480 is flimsier than the latitude though. and on the t480 jewish lenovo changed the priority for first battery discharged to the one with lowest cycles which i think is absolutely retarded and defeats the point of the power bridge. battery life is comparable to the x230 with a new 9 cell for me.

is it just me or do thinkpads always hot?

Also ebay listing for the intel u models are all over, I hate the intel u they suck. Crappy efficenty and just performs bad compared to amd

thinkbump

Can a generic charger significantly reduce the lifespan of my batteries?

>Lenovo Thinkpad T14 GEN 5, 16GB RAM, 1TB, Intel Core Ultra 5 135U
>£669.68 ($904.56)
Is this a good deal if brand new and unused? in

>>106312641
No but if you have one of the newer ones, it can fuck up the USB-C charging port, and it's a real bitch to repair. If you don't have a hot air gun and a lot of patience, you're fucked. Actually fuck all of you that want everything to be USB-C. I'd take the proprietary Lenovo square connector any day over this shit.

>Lenovo ThinkPad E14 Gen 3, 14" AMD Ryzen 5500U Radeon Vega GPU 8GB RAM 256GB SSD
£192.88

or

>Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 3
>32GB, intel 1235U, 256GB SSD
£273.88

both used

Thinking about getting the X13s (Snapdragon), any thoughts? Ideally would be running the latest Ubuntu with ARM support.

>>106313794
Not sure about gen 3 but heard that early e series were extreme trash. Even though i hate intel i would probably take it instead of e14.

thinkbump

>>106315788
Not him but I think the E14 also has socketed ram and an upgradable wifi card. I'd say it's a crapshoot.

what am I missing with the IdeaPad Pro 5i Gen 10?

It comes with a monsterous intel 225H cpu, oled 14" 2.8K (2880 x 1800), 32GB RAM, 84Wh battery, 100w charger all for the price of £900.

Of course its not a thinkpad but the equivallant would be over £2000 on the business range.

been using the t60 for a few days now
surprisingly usable for a 19 year old machine
can play youtube but only at 240p

>>106318735
Reminds me of my old Sony Vaio from the Vista era. That laptop upgraded to Windows 7, to 8, to 10 and all I ever did to it was upgrade the ram and put in an SSD. The thing was insanely complex inside so I never even did the paste on it (which is probably what killed it). Fans even after cleaning sounded like a jet engine but not bad for a laptop I bought in 2008. I had to watch Youtube videos in 360p but was somehow still useable. Thing finally died in 2023 and now I'm here. God I wish laptops were still built like that.

>eeeeeeeeeeeeee in your path

Do thinkpads still have the worst coil whine on the planet or has that largely been resolved?

Youtubes new update is raping my still-sufficient-until-now W530 3rd gen i7.

>>106292958
If you're lucky, it is just some bad capacitor(s) or something. The bigger problem is finding it.

>>106293709
I've read some say Dell and HP make the only worthwhile business laptops right now.

>>106309533
Memory alone is only a little piece of the puzzle, anon.

>>106310610
Ubuntu

>>106312641
Double check online reviews to make sure you are playing it safe. Some chargers are great, some are not.

>>106318495
Maybe that's why most anons dabble in discontinued models? Bang for the buck is real, if you're not a techlet.

>>106319830
I didn't even know about coil whine. '90s Thinkpads, I guess? Not anything from 2013 and onwards.

>>106292958
What symptoms did it have before dying? My T420 has turned off randomly twice since March. No warning, no remaining leds lit or fans spinning, no slowdowns. But doesn't seem related to load or heat, I even got the beefiest PSU for it. I guess it's old enough now to be used all day.

>>106320102
I see, I really didn't want to buy Nvidia anyways. T16 G2's are looking a little better now

>>106318495
Get a Framework if you want to buy new.
Yes you still get
>soldered CPU
>chicklet keyboard
>no keyboard clit
>trackpad without buttons
But you get something where all the parts are available and everything is modular.

the black part holding the cable is loose, is there an easy way to fix this? I just need the cable to stay in place

>>106320102
>ubuntu
I hate gnome. I’ve been trying out trixie with plasma. So far so good. Saw a lot of people online recommending arch with omearchy but I haven’t sucked a cock yet so it’s not my time for such Redditness

I need a new laptop and I need a desktop but I'm too broke to afford that. Can someone give me a qrd on thunderbolt egpus? I'd buy some thinkpad or something else that has that connector and connect a desktop gpu to it. What used thinkpad should I look for that costs around 3-400 bucks?

>>106318735
Are you able to check your emails with Gmail? Gmails web client killed my old computer hobby. It requires more than 2gb memory to actually use it and it takes over a minute to just show the inbox.

When i found that, that's the moment i dispaired and gave up the hobby. There's no hope for human kind. Our species will just endlessly consoom ravenously until there's nothing left of our planet.
Like omg, that computer is like, two years old! Whys it not in the landfill!

>>106323012
Why use the web client? Thunderbird takes 800 MB for a 50000 message inbox.

>>106292456
My T420 died two years ago it's in the closet. When I plug it in the LED flashes then it doesn't power up at all. Feels bad man.

>>106323405
F

>>106304916
I boughted the same one, arrived yesterday. Saved some money by getting it without Windows and with minimal RAM (I'll upgrade when I need).
It will basically be an HTPC always connected to the TV, and on rare occasions take it with me on trips or whatever.

This is probably far from an original take, but I got a chance to try Thinkpads made with the past decade at a store and I don't like how flat the mouse buttons are. Do I just need to get used to it or are they inferior?

>>106324525
You have to push them harder to be sure that they stay pressed. I've been using 2017-2021 models for five years and still get phantom clicks when dragging from time to time.

Thinking of replacing my X230 for a T480
will have to say farewell to the classic keyboard
but I feel like the sacrifice is worth it for the better performance and screen ratio

Is there a modern thinkpad model that is more box-shaped than the others?

>>106323405
Maybe swap out the ram sticks?

>>106326557
P53, P15 to some degree.

>>106326557
>>106326708
For 14" and 12" sizes, L14 G2 and X270 are the last without an overdone taper, but neither is as boxy (and rigid) as P53

>>106323012
>Gmails web client killed my old computer hobby.

Lack of knowledge did. You don't need the web client because Gmail Basic HTML view was designed for slow machines.

You can also use a light fast browser. The price of technical progress is rapid change, no different from the rapid obsolescence of early 1900s automobiles. The boomer idea all objects should be preserved forever is ignorant. Every machine is a tool built to perform a task and when it's superseded it need not exist.

>Like omg, that computer is like, two years old!

Your problematic computer was not two years old. Why do you feel the counterproductive need to exaggerate instead of seeking knowledge to SOLVE your difficulty? You had a tech problem and chose an emotional reaction when intelligence undefiled by emotion was called for, but take it as a lesson learned.

Email clients are much preferable to webmail because they give users control and very convenient backup. Thunderbird Portable is glorious because backup is easy as copying the program folder. Give it a try!

>>106327226
X1 Titanium has basically zero taper and minimal corner roundness but it's too thin to call box-shaped. More like thin book or magazine-shaped.

>>106321143
Hot glue my man. It's still relatively reversible if you need to take it apart again.

think someone made a mistake with this laptop here, 8GB non upgradable.

shame really it has a decently powerful cpu and oled screen

>>106328780
If it's a shitposting and office type productivity machine with a light DE, and you're not the type to keep 400 tabs of furryshit open at once, you can make 8GB work comfortably. Really depends on your use case.

>>106318735
hello fellow t60 patrician

>>106328780
8GB is perfectly fine for casual use in the hands of someone who isn't a thousand-tab autist.
The real issue is the cursed CPU. 13th and 14th Intel gens came out defective and have significant chance of frying themselves if you don't undervolt them.

>>106312641

there used to be really bad generic chargers in sale do not buy

This is an X220 right? Would it be worth 23 usd? I might be able to haggle it down to 17.5. It only has 4gb of ram and has broken keys. The battery is almost definitely toast as well.

I'd only use it to try out linux and mess with home server stuff, shit like that. Not really a priority or anything.

CAPTCHA: NRHGR

For the 16" ThinkPads is there any value in upgrading to the P series for the WQUXGA (3840 x 2400) screens over the WUXGA (1920 x 1200) on the T series?

I used a macbook pro for essentially the first time and holy shit the keyboard is so GOOD. idk what exact year it is but the trackpad doesnt actually click. but my focus was the keyboard. it felt so solid and tactile, maybe the keys could have used more travel, but the shape of the keys and distance were also great. felt like i was typing really fast too.

am i crazy? i really want a framework but a good keyboard is a must have for me in a laptop. like yes i know the macbook is glued shut and the keyboard is the whole enclosure but it felt so right.

>>106331324
if you think it's worth it for a toy machine then grab it. I'd pick it over SBC too

>>106331741
Get cheaper stuff and external monitor.

About time I get one of these classics

page ten

I got a 2in1 and now I'm searching for a video player that has the option to tap twice on the screen to skip 10 seconds like when watching yt on phone - anyone aware of such thing?

I only saw people talking about VLC but it doesnt let you bind mouse clicks

>>106331324
not and x220, also you should be getting a x230 instead

Just opened a T440p for the first time.
What the fuck are theses for?

>>106325962
I'd say go for it
Its also a nice way to know if you prefer a specific form factor, or the actual tech specs of the machine

Do you think this is fixable? On a t14

>>106341413
I wouldn't count on it. Buy it cheap enough that one or two of the major parts sold individually are worth more than the price you're paying, or don't buy it.

People put broken stuff up for sale for absolutely retarded prices, like $50 less than a fully functional one, when the part that's broken would cost you $150-300. I guess there's people out there dumb enough to pay it.

>>106304916
i'm pretty dumb. what in this picture gives off any indication that you're Indian

>>106342756
Poor English skill maybe but I have better things to worry about

>>106340783
NFC and fingerprint reader

I copped a used L490 now tell me it was a mistake

>>106342756
see the input indicator on the taskbar, it says ENG IN
>>106342906
Where in the pic can you see "poor English skills"?

>>106304916
Kitne ka mila bhai? Offline liya ya in market?

>>106304916
Hi bhai, fellow /g/entleman from Lucknow, UP.
Did you go for the higher-res and 100% srgb screen upgrade?

>>106343700
70k including the mouse, ordered it online on the official lenovo website.

>>106343710
No, it isn't necessary unless you do heavy photoshop editing, it's more than enough for everything else, you can judge from the pic.

>>106343758
Yes, that is true.. but isn't 45% NTSC somewhat off putting?

>The double battery is redundant nowadays. Technology advances so fast, that the new internal battery of the T490 is much lighter, much more powerful and lasts up to 12 hours, a full day. In addition, a dirt cheap power bank can solve the same problem like an expensive Lenovo 2nd battery.
is this true? I was going to buy t480 just for the double battery and long life, but might just buy a powerbank and t490 instead

>>106343516
simple, it's not L390 which is just as upgradable as L490 while being an ultraportable

>>106343644
>ENG IN
just why? as a thirdie myself I'd rather set my system for ENG US to save myself from a lot of hassle when troubleshooting and stuff.

>>106345293
>12 hours, a full day
This is a lie, it lasts 8 hours in the best case, only about 30-45 minutes more than the default T480 config

>>106345293
The secondary battery is nice but it's big if you want better capacity than what T490 has to offer

>>106345293
it is half true. the t480 has notoriously bad battery life, so the double battery is mandatory unless you plan to carry a charger all the time (unless you get the dual core model, but why the fuck would you? it's just a worse t470, less usb ports, no windows 7 support, trackpoint issues etc) and let's be honest, it's pretty hard to source genuine full capacity double batteries.
the t470 had pretty good battery life for it's time, i didn't bother getting the double battery, but even with the standard battery i'd estimate my t14g2 (current laptop) is only about 50% better. it isn't an entirely fair comparison though, my t14g2 has a much better display than the shitty 1366x768 display my t470 had
i would not get a t470 either though, you're sacrificing a lot with a machine that old. for that matter don't get a t490 either, just get a t14g2 (or a t14g1 if you're poor), they are strictly better machines

>>106346913
I want a laptop with good battery life, silent and reliable so it wont break/degrade in some years.
Was thinking of t480 since batteries are hella cheap in aliexpress and is cheap enough
I guess ill go with t14g1, as far as I know second generation doesnt give any extra battery life

>>106347138
i wouldn't buy batteries from china, they are probably non-genuine and it's legitimately a safety risk, i bought a thinkpad from taobao because it was super cheap compared to ebay, the battery that came with it was literally swollen

>>106347138
iirc AMD 5*** (Zen3 / VEGA) gen has by far best battery life on low load (video, browser etc) compared to similar price/age laptops.
out of those T14s G2 has better battery and cooler than T14 G2 but no ethernet port.