Thread 106296315

is there a healthy way to use this website? it feels like the thing ruining western society. just as much if not more than facebook/instagram

Once you find the right guidance, the other stuff will appear.

>>106296327
This. Open your anus and your mind will follow.

But seriously, just have it on in the background while doing something productive, if it's not too much of a distraction. It's the only way.

>>106296366
>t. don't know how to use yt

>>106296378
On the contrary, I use it 15 hours a day and have done so for about a decade or more. Most of it is perfect for background usage.

>>106296315 (OP)
You either already know the useful channels from years ago or you'll never find them because of the aislop infestation. The Hide-shorts extension can help.

>>106296315 (OP)
on android, use bravepipe with all the anti-enshittification and sponsor skipping features enabled.

on desktop browsers, use sponsorblock and extensions to disable infinite scrolling. pull out of commenting, eventually become accountless to reduce your dependency on cuckgle as much as possible.

>can you help me find good channels since all I ever do is watch drama/incel slop?

This is why you guys are niggers.

>>106296451
You made up a reason to get angry and then got angry.

>>106296424
>become accountless
In the past few days I keep getting "sign in to confirm you're not a bot." I wouldn't be surprised if they are starting to restrict people who refuse to sign in.

>>106296315 (OP)
Believe it or not there was a time before YouTube. A time of tv and movies being all the things you could watch. You can still have that.

>>106296315 (OP)
>is there a healthy way to use this website?
Desktop only.
Use an ad blocker, and the Return Youtube Dislike extension to warn you of shitty videos.
If you're signed in, use the subscriptions page instead of relying on the algorithm to show you videos of channels you like.
Consider turning off/clearing watch and search history (clearing years of history on an old account is pretty drastic, try it without being signed in first to see if you like it). This will make related videos actually somewhat "related" instead of a tailored slop feed.
Avoid shorts, and if you absolutely must watch a few, use a shorts redirector or at least change the /shorts/ in the URL with /watch/ to see the normal watch page instead of mobile bullshit.

Basically, revert to 2011.

>>106296505
Trade in slop for slop!

I would unironically support a rate limited alternative to youtube that:

A) Allowed you to upload ONLY user AV1 + Opus webms. No H264/VP9/HEVC so AV1 adoption would grow.

B) The only limitation being a generous 100-200 MB filesize cap (per video) and 4K res.

C) Videos can be downloaded by anyone but leechers get throttled to 1 Mbps while premium users get access to 8/16/24 Mbps.

D) The use of the nigger word is not only allowed but ENCOURAGED to keep out snowflakes.

>>106296562
Shut up retard

>>106296505
this is what I've been thinking about doing. just really hard to do. i already miss a lot of information being off of Facebook/Instagram

Here are all 4 browsers extensions I use specifically for Youtube. I also never login with my gmail and pretend I don't have an account when going on Youtube. I used to use youtue.com/feed/trending for discovery but they recently got rid of that feature. It got way too commercialized anyway. For discovery, I use Odysee and/or Rumble to find new Youtubers and cool videos to watch now.

>>106296315 (OP)
Subscribe to the few good channels left and only use the subscriptions page.
And use an ad blocker and sponsor block of course.

I don't see how it's worse than Facebook though?

>>106296315 (OP)
use rss to get updates for a small amount of channels that you actually enjoy and only watch via mpv. never visit the site itself. don't make an account.

>>106296424
What does bravepipe do differently than pipepipe? Honest question I never heard of that newpipe fork

>>106296505
Go watch some 90's sitcoms.
They are absolute garbage and people only watches them because there was nothing else to watch.

They were so unfunny they had to use laugh tracks to avoid awkward silence after each "joke".

>>106296315 (OP)
Step 1: download NewPipe for your phone. I prefer a fork like brave NewPipe or tubular because they support sponserblock, which allows the community to submit timestamps in which YouTubers are talking about the video sponsors.
Step 2: download FreeTube for your PC. it has sponserblock included natively.
Stpe 3: use grapheneos on your phone to create a new profile, download the open up the sandboxed play store, and create a Google account. Since Google thinks you're on a new phone, it won't ask you to enter a phone number then verify it or backup email to start a fresh Google account, unlike if you were to open a Google account right now on your computer. Once your new Google account is active, delete the profile from grapheneos. Whenever you want to watch an age verification required video which requires you to sign in to a valid Google account, use your created account. Eventually after about a month, Google will require you to verify a phone number to continue using it's services, including that burner account. Then you simply abandon that account and repeat the process.

There you go, all the functionality of having a full YouTube account, without the bullshit that goes into it. I deleted my Google account years ago and I haven't needed/wanted another one since.

>>106296487
sorry to hear. every once in a while, youtube intensifies the enforcement arms race. it's impressive how they can't stop UTTP bots but they absolutely can dump millions of man-hours into sabotaging third party clients so you WILL watch the ads and you WILL watch the shorts, you WILL watch the AI slop recommended feed

>>106296672
mainly integrated sponsorblock and RYD out of the box, also rumble support i guess.

>>106296618
and all the community wasn't trapped in walled gardens, you had forums and IRC. sadly that's no longer the case because freedom is dangerous to the children

>>106296702
You think I'm saying watch stuff from the 90s?
Im just saying stop watching YouTube

>>106296315 (OP)
I just use it to listen to video game music
My dad uses it to watch videos of animals, mainly owls.

>>106296315 (OP)
lol youtube was b& at my house until 2013 since my parents thought it was a porn site

>>106296562
It's at least usually less meaningless tiem-wasting brainrot than youtube

>>106296817
You said:
>A time of tv and movies being all the things you could watch. You can still have that.
And I say no, you cannot go back to watching TV once you're used to watching videos that are actually interesting or entertaining.

Movies maybe, but not TV.

a wise anon once said
>search for Creative Common content and you shall notice a dramatic increase in quality
i didnt listen to him lol

>>106296315 (OP)
I used to have a lot of extensions to fix the retarded frontend, now I just do like >>106296653 said and avoid the browser in the process.

While we're on the topic, what's a good way to remove those automated playlists that YouTube is forcing upon you when you open a video? I just got one on a non-music video I clicked. As if the music ones weren't bad enough.

And yes, I know you can just delete it from the URL, but that gets tedious. Maybe I can use the Redirector extension to remove them automatically? Sounds too convoluted though.

>>106296632
>>106296989
pretty much this. if you browse any other way you are being mind fucked worse than hard drugs.
just make sure to turn off any suggested video page/panel (even on the main page) so you can only search for what you want to watch (classic search engine), otherwise all that rot will eventually break you down in a moment of weakness and you'll be drowning in slop again without realizing it.

>>106297036
Update. I fixed with Redirector, it wasn't even that difficult to pull off. It does seem to only work when opening links in a new tab though, but that's a minor issue.

https://www.youtube.com/@trainerwinny
Start here

>>106296889
Most stuff on YouTube is garbage. Watching modern TV will mostly be better than it.

>>106296672
Bravepipe mostly just adds rumble/bitchute and search filter, if you don't use rumble/bitchute you are better off with pipepipe.

>>106296590
That just sucks, odysee is better than that.

>>106296632
>return dislike
bloat
>sponsor and ublock
good
>shorts blocker
bloat. install unhook instead, and disable EVERYTHING

>>106297420
>H264
Close but no cigar. Thanks anyway, it's nice to see the moonman wipe the floor with modern music again.

no
the only sane way is to use a youtube client that isn't a web browser or electron

>>106297630
Mental illness

>>106296590
you will be poor forever

>>106298140
Ah yes, I love being stuck in the 2000s with H264. I especially love how video suffers from horrible color banding and requiring 100 Mbps for high quality 4K resolution video.

I used to use it for hours every day but I got bored of the nonstop slop content. Thanks for that!

>>106296315 (OP)
Yes
- adblocker
- extension to block the "are you still watching" nagger
- only use it for music playlists
- make sure the playlist was made by a human and not Youtube

bros.....

It's pretty unwatchable at this point. Even without AI shit, so many videos are just some asshole pretending to shit his pants while delivering a trivial summary of whatever.

>>106298248
imagine falling for this. I got picrel last year and I will never do those humiliation rituals. This should be illegal.

>>106298194
i'm glad we can agree on this

>>106296315 (OP)
Use a frontend that kills the algorithm, recommendations, comments, etc. so you only use it to watch times you specifically search for.
>>106296366
>But seriously, just have it on in the background while doing something productive
Brainrotted behaviour

>>106296590
AV1 looks like total dogshit. completely removes grain and smears the whole image with vaseline. you don't know what you're talking about

>>106298569
K well quality validation says otherwise.

https://norkin.org/research/afgs1/index.html

>>106298633
>AV1 has to fake grain
not a problem on H264

>>106298675
Yeah just need 100 Mbps to accurate re-create it...

>>106296462
youtube recommends things based on what you watch. you have to be deliberate in avoiding filth and hitting "don't recommend channel" for AI slop

i watch youtube all the time, but it's stuff i actually like and don't feel too bad about after

>>106298680
what fuckass options are you using to get 100 Mbps

>>106298485
I used a deepfake but why do they care now of all times

>>106296315 (OP)
ye
upload shit to share with ur frens

>>106296315 (OP)
Use it to watch videos, not consume content

>>106296632

I use this instead of the block YouTube shorts extension, it lets you customize the home screen grid so it doesn't keep zooming in

>>106296366
>have it on in the background while doing something productive
I listen to alpha brain wave study music very softly, hours pass with little notice

I think watching yt vides with mpv is the only way to remove all the shit. Just run mpv youtube.com/url and it will play inside of it.

>>106298811
>block YouTube shorts extension
unhook is what you need for "get rid of music playlists, video descriptions, comments" through a quick toggle GUI.
blocktube is for content filtering.
>hide every video with pepe in the title
>hide every video under 10 minutes

>>106296315 (OP)
heh

>>106296315 (OP)
Yeah ublock origin + tampermonkey with script to remove channels, title keywords and shorts.