Thread 106307512

>shits on westchink tech
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>>106307512 (OP)
What else would it have done? All it produces is shit.

>>106307512 (OP)
пopa нa пepeдoвyю, пaцaн

lol

sorry I dont speak vatnik

What is it?

Elbrus is a monstrosity like Itanium, a VLIW working as CPU. Even the best 16c CPU is as fast as a Pentium III at 1 GHz... it's more a DSP than a real processor.
Most ARM versions are better for CPU.

>>106307512 (OP)
it sucks. VLIW is garbage should have invested in RISC baikal instead

>>106308999
No, there are VLIW Elbrus, but most of what's produced now are MIPS.
>they copied the Itanium failure
>they copied abandoned Western architecture
yes, that's the power of Russia

>>106311175
Sorry I meant SPARC

>>106307512 (OP)
which way, eastern man?

>>106311175
That's a different company, they still keep doubling down with the retarded elbrus

>>106311584
Can it be bought from outside of glorious puccia? I'd love to have a system for the memes.

>>106311459
I can't wait for the Chinese to get really good at this so we can have alternatives to the literal TWO FUCKING COMPANIES that offer us CPU's. The other side benefit is when China does it they usually go in guns blazing and knee cap the market by undercutting everyone like fuck. So that means cheap as fuck CPU's.

Can't wait.

TZD

>>106313325
You're only limited to AMD and Intel if you want x86, there's plenty of CPU companies to choose from if you're willing to use a different ISA (Even with all the Chinese companies that have access to ARM, the only worthwhile chips come from Nvidia, Apple, and Qualcomm)

>>106313325
Look at the Centaur core line. Technically American arch, but its now in Chinese hands. VIA will keep making iterations. Even Hygon now has totally bespoke arch. They started out with Zen1, AMD was a principle founder of their company, but now they're doing a crazy wide SMT4 design chasing IBM. Wider, lower clocks, lower power, probably again only datacenter oriented.

>>106307512 (OP)
>early 2000's era CPU performance
>can't even run the old STALKER trilogy well
>Sberbank deemed them too weak for use
>still relies on TSMC to be made
Though I'm sure Putin is happily playing Solitare on Windows XP with it and that's all that matters.

>>106313325
They can't make advanced nodes and their LoongArch architecture isn't compatible with Windows. Only Zhaoxin is x86 and they're even further behind

>>106317879
Their goverment seems to be favoring Risc-V for 'general computing' because they aren't restricted to the Chinese market like the licensed x86 or ARM. And the Loong cpus seems to be for supercomputers/web than for normal computers, they aren't cheap either.

>>106315265
>the only worthwhile chips come from Nvidia, Apple, and Qualcomm)
That's because apple and Nvidia were the only ones designing their own CPUs instead of using arm designs, Qualcomm is joining them now thanks to buying up Nuvia.

>>106308999
The point of it is to exist for certain government use cases. French and Germans for example may laugh at it but they themselves have nothing.

>>106318026
>Germans
They have Infineon that owns licences for ARM, FPGAs, and they have their own IP for DSP equivalent to Elbrus. Other companies have their own RISC-V cores. Most of their products like SoC are a combination of different sources because they are competitive and need to use products compatible anywhere. Meanwhile Russia has nothing similar and they have to import even ADC from Analog Devices or China.
>French
STM is partially French DUMBASS

European companies and fabs are similar to Japanese ones, specialized in non-silicon semiconductors, specialized IC (sensors, cars) and power electronics, all of them relatively high value. Germans are huge in industrial electronic (like the crap of SCADA and PLC) something that russians would rummage through the trash to maintain their industry.