Thread 106307843

Why are 90% of sites being DDoS'd and being forced to use Cloudflare (which is still ineffective and doesn't do shit to make webs load faster) now?

who has a massive network of controlled hosts?
who stands to gain from cloudflare controlling access to every site?
now who do you think is doing the ddosing?

>>106308001
>who do you think is doing the ddosing?
Cloudflare themselves to stay in business. Spying? Embed SSL in JavaScript, generate keys on the fly, and Cloudflare's blind. All traffic's encrypted.

>>106307843 (OP)
ddos is still better than a mitm attack. especially if the mitm doesn't effectively mitigate the ddos.

>>106308089
CF is either positioning itself to become a shadow gov's asset or it already is. You don't need to spy if you can become a tool for control. CFUK is doing the blocking on sites that don't have their loicenses.

>>106308340
cloudflare is basically mitm you dumb fuck

>>106308366
>encrypt traffic under HTTPS
>delay real-time updates (request timestamps dont sync with posted content)
suddenly being a shadow gov asset is meaningless

>>106307843 (OP)
Extortion. Intel services create/ own Cloudflare. Then the same intel services hire hackers to DDoS sites, so they must use Cloudflare. Thereby creating a single point of control over the internet.

>>106308403
doesn't the IP pop up for them? what accesses what and at what time and for how long?

>>106307843 (OP)
jewish

>>106308411
true, but they can already get your IP from DNS queries and traffic routing. the real gold is being able to see what content you accessed, without this information it is hard to infer your intentions.

>>106308089
except they can modify the initial page however they want. no matter what you do they can decrypt what happens in the middle one way or another.

>>106308442
or selectively block certain IPs at certain times?

>>106307843 (OP)
jews

>>106308385
no shit, can't you read

>>106308366
>or it already is
always has been

see also: letsencrypt

>>106308444
what about a browser plugin to validate the site (container containing content signatures)?
>>106308453
hard to solve that one. thing is, the more obvious the control the less tinfoil it becomes

>>106307843 (OP)
Extortion racket, like the ADL.

>>106308497
Funny story, one of the earliest addons Firefox banned was "Block Cloudflare" and refused to discuss it, and closed the thread.

>>106308442
depends, for example here they make you click that bullshit checkbox, they see your IP and time of when you click the shit, and whatever seconds later you probably post. how many posts per second to single you out? what about lower traffic websites? do they have access to your metadata from their shit plugin? screen resolution, timezone, font collection, canvas bullshit, cpu number of cores, ram size?

>>106308403
They flag your UK IP as being a DDOS to 4chan and block it. What timmy gonna do appel to the king? It's a private company enforcing censorship bypassing non-shadow government.

if you're getting through cf's captcha its because you have been successfully fingerprinted. why else would it accept your traffic?

>>106308550
they also accept advertisement-based access

>>106308001
How would the glow in the dark agents attack this?

Every client is localhost, can use radio or sat link to broadcast
Data i/o is on blockchains, which have horizontal scaling against ddos naturally

>>106308476
>letsencrypt
You mean the service that let everyone stop paying money for certs is a conspiracy?
This is the most retarded thread on the most retarded board on the most retarded Dagestani dung charcoal collector board.

>>106308366
Protesilaos wrote about this a while ago. https://protesilaos.com/politics/2021-01-26-platformarchs-demistate-deplatforming/. It's an easy way to circumvent the constitution (or any governement's constraints) by allowing a corporatation not bound to those constraints to bound the public in their place while the government and the corportations have a mutually beneficial relationship. As far as I'm concern it's already too late

>>106308676
if it's free you're the product

>>106308678
the usa is a socialist country. it merely pretends some of the state organs are not so.

>>106307843 (OP)
Yes, I’m sure they spent millions on server farms and spend more on data to flood the internet and more on opsec to hide their conspiracy just to lose their market cap to a government takeover.
Kys.

>>106308684
>if I recite a slogan it’s true
so then pay for it faggot no one stopping you verisign shill

you bunch of retarded schizo fucks
the answer is because the entire web is being scrapped either to train AI, or by jeets using LLM-generated scrappers for their B2B2C lean SaaS startup that is totally gonna revolutionize the industry

>>106308678
Remember the brownshirts and other civilian armies? Corpos are filling in for random private citizens, since they're alrady much stronger than any private individual.

ITT: People who have never had ultimate responsibility of uptime for a medium-sized web-based business (or larger).

>>106308678
>2021
I'm sure your guy is real clever but this was all the rage when mass deplatforming was happening in 2016, and the lefoids were screeching "It's a private company, they can do what they want!"

>>106308710
How does cloudflare themselves stop the DDOS attacks?
They just absorb the network bandwidth saturation costs?

>>106308849
by not ddosing you.

>>106308878
You make it sound like a “protection racket”

>>106308894
no it's actually an intelligence operation. cloudflare sees all traffic unencrypted. the ddos is just a tool to get you to join.

>>106307843 (OP)
>Why are 90% of sites being DDoS'd
>and being forced to use Cloudflare
>Why are
>being forced to use Cloudflare
You answered your own question. They create the problem and sell you the solution

>>106307843 (OP)
Ruling class elites want to control the internet. They don't like how there are a gazillion different websites. They would rather there be a few large websites that they can easily control.

It's the same deal with our private sector. They would prefer a few big Corporations over numerous small businesses. Countless small businesses are harder to control, where as they can push all kinds of unwanted crap on us all from the top down through the ESG-infected Corporate "private" sector.

>>106307843 (OP)
The easiest way to sell you a solution is to cause the problem it "solves"

>>106308403
Do you know how cloudflare "protects" websites? They sit in front of your server and receive all your traffic for you. Then they "analyze" it before encrypting it again and forwarding it to your server. That's literally how it works. HTTPs is is irrelevant. This is how most of the internet operates. Yes, the NSA can see all your traffic. Or at least whatever is protect by cloudflare. Which is 90% of the internet.

>>106307843 (OP)
who is this semen demon

cloudflare is a pita

>>106307843 (OP)
Is self-hosting a site really as unfeasible as people itt make it out to be, or are they just conspiracy chuds who’ve never hosted a site even once?
What happened to DDoS protections? I've always thought its just a convenience thing

>>106307843 (OP)
>inconvenient website you don't have the jurisdiction to shut down?
>ddos them
>if they get cloudflare to avoid the ddos, then have cloudflare force them to censor the content
the site either shuts down or the operators believe that the censorship was their own choice

>>106308497
just do TOFU and a service worker.
>>106308751
cloudflare's services are top tier. they fund that by being an arm of the cia et al, who fund themselves in turn with drug trafficking.
besides, anyone who runs any sizable business on cloudflare knows how slimy their tactics to push you towards costly as fuck enterprise plans can be and how much of a headache they can cause you to that end. free bandwidth (basically gold on the cloud) as the carrot and ddos as the stick, then they milk you like findom paypigs once you're invested. it's cancer to not just the users but companies with devs too retarded to not rope their bosses into this shit too.
>>106313407
did you really think the internet is this much of a shitshow because no one ever tried to fix it?

>>106307843 (OP)
Hitler lost the war.

>>106313407
If you just host your website on a server and port forward 443. 99 percent of the time nothing will happen. You are not a target.

>>106315482
> did you really think the internet is this much of a shitshow because no one ever tried to fix it?
Yes
most people had no issues with internet being such a shithole until just recently.
besides people choose to get things shoved down their throats rather than “fixing it” anyway

and see>>106315521

>>106307843 (OP)
It really makes you think...

airgap the US internet from the 3rd world and you'll never see another DDoS attack ever again

>>106316328
well, of course, because Cloudflare is American and Cloudflare does the DDoS.
Isolate the mulattos and the problem is solved.

My website gets DDOS'd every other month by a myriad of Singaporean IPs, all of which are identified as Cloudflare IPs. I had to range-ban the whole country.

>>106307843 (OP)
Western internet infrastructure is unable to support increasing internet usage, so they're forcing websites to use Cloudflare as an indirect means to throttle internet speed.

>>106308676
Hey nigger, you're glowing so bright alien SETI programs are picking up on it.

>>106307843 (OP)
don't servers offer ping flood rejection? or is it just botnet shit?

>>106316233
Someone needs to bring back the OIC

>>106315851
you are dumb and proud of it