Thread 106311983

>>106312006
>linux is lean, except for the ones that aren't. STOP NOTICING!

>>106311983 (OP)
d

>>106311983 (OP)
dude, /b/ro, stay in your containment /b/oard

>>106312019
this only works if theres a windows distro that is lean too :/

>>106312177
>5gb smaller
Alright, what's the next golapost. Let's just hear it.

>>106312196
So the leanest Windows distro is only 5gb smaller than the most bloated Linux distro?
Not a good look.

>>106312196
>single pc for single license
grim

>>106311983 (OP)
>>106312196
Now compare actual installed sizes of two systems

>>106311983 (OP)
nigger

>>106312208
I gave you a chance you move the goalpost further on your own terms, and it's still now enough AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>106311983 (OP)
The part of that which is actually Linux is tiny. The kernel itself is 15MB on Ubuntu 25.04, plus an initrd of 87MB.

If you're unhappy with the size of a full-featured distribution, pick an other.

>>106312242
I'm sorry does Windows have a specialized universal distro for handhelds? Didn't think so.

>>106311983 (OP)
>listening to system requirements
>ever
why?
I legitimately always ignore them.

>>106311983 (OP)
And to elaborate: Why do you compare a distribution with a kernel?

>I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows, is in fact, Windows/NT, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Windows plus NT. NT is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another unfree component of a fully functioning Windows system.

>>106312196
More than a gig for hard disk space? Lol.
Thanks for playing, Wintard.

>>106312404
>96mb RAM
Bullshit, even slitaz needs more to be functional. Just showing TTY is doesn't qualify for being functional

>>106312526
Now who's moving the goalpost?

>>106312526
Linux is actually completely functional in TTY. It has a huge selection of console programs to use.

>>106312566
>No you don't understand an OS is when gui and forced updates and bundled bloatware you can't disable

>>106312566
>>106312561
Just take void iso, install it in vm and show screenshot of it working with 100mb ram.

>>106312610
I don't have a real system with 100mb of RAM so that's a waste of time. Lowest I got is 2.8GB and even that's unusable with both Windows and Linux in desktop role with a GUI. Well, with Linux it's semi-usable since a decent amount of modern software works (poorly), specially if you're able to recompile it to not use instruction sets that the CPU doesn't have, but you straight up can't install Windows 11 so it's completely unusable with Windows.

>>106311983 (OP)
>linux is ubuntu
retard

The CIA keep spamming 4chan with these posts because they don't want anons to use it.

>>106312646
>I don't have a real system with 100mb of RAM
And here is why it's pointless thread, you can't even buy less than 8gb DDR5 RAM.
Lowest I could use for shitposting 4chan was 128mb and SliTaz. Just for memes, before they implemented the retarded cloudflare shit.

this kills the linux jeets

>>106312686
Saw some idiot install that one time, it didn't even work lmao. He moved to normal Windows 11 right after and it worked.

>>106312566
how do you browse this exact website in the TTY

>>106312696
You aren't going to browse this website on a computer so shit it can only be useful in TTY. This tab alone is 51MB of RAM.

>>106312705
I can't try it from my current location, but I think lynx browser (terminal browser) could browse this site with a very low footprint.

Granted, it won't be with a gui, but it could work.

>>106311983 (OP)
>25GB
>bloat
You guys are such contrarians it's not even funny. Holy shit letting turdworlders from south america onto this website was such a fucking mistake.

>>106312610
Keep this page tabbed. I'm actually curious about this.

Will post updates later today.

>>106312731
Does it have support for javascript and shit like that? Because this website has cloudshit. I've never used Lynx.

>>106312526
>Just showing TTY is doesn't qualify for being functional
maybe not in windows it isn't

>>106312775
>proceeds to show graphical environment

would it have been easier for you to understand if i had made two posts instead, one with my screenshot, and another for the response? did i fool you into believing that was a tty? are you ok?

>

>>106312892
so predictable

>why can't linux be more like windows?!
>here's linux that's more like windows
>wtf now it's more like windows?!

>>106312775
>>106312912
Didn't expect distro that's not running ancient software to boot with 200mb ram.
Try booting it with 100mb.

>>106312695
I'm using Tiny10 in a VM for some hardware specific Windows applications, plus USB-forwarding.

>>106312985
it doesn't, at least not with the default configuration. it'll run and use less than 100M, but it won't load the initrd. haven't looked into if there's a solution for that

>ubuntu
ngmi op

Is there any purpose to this thread or is it just tribalism faggotry?

>>106313025
I'm more interested in how chrome is not taking 1gb of RAM simply by existing, let alone posting on 4chan.

>>106311983 (OP)
the most bloated lunix distro is still lighter than winshit, which asks for 64 gigs of free space, and gobbles up 8 gigs of ram for no reason
>>106312196
my base OS is literally 2GiB, using 200M of ram with all my shit running in the background
>>106312526
a tty is more functional than winshit
>>106312985
just kick out trash like pulseaudio, systemd, unnecessary shit in your kernel you dont need, drivers you dont have hardware for, and all the freedesktop crap

>>106311983 (OP)
>wants to install a modern operating system with access to less than 25GB of storage
maybe you should stick to DOS or something, you stupid ass fairy faggot.

>>106313049
You're on /g/. Every thread here is tribalism faggotry no matter the OS being discussed.

>>106313055
i'm more interested in why firefox-esr is using more than chromium when i tried it just then. i've been using palemoon so long i didn't notice firefox itself getting so fat

>>106313025
>>106312985
swapping out grub for gummiboot does bring the limit down a bit. now i'm curious why, i mean the combined linux+initrd images are under 18MiB
worth noting perhaps that this is a UEFI, 64bit installation, just a VM i play with. i haven't installed alpine on a physical machine

>>106313362
Holy shit

>>106311983 (OP)
>Yes, Linux is Ubuntu. There is no other Linux.
http://tinycorelinux.net/

>>106311983 (OP)
Linux desktop is absoltuley bloated, that's what desktop users want we call those features.

>>106311983 (OP)
Meanwhile:

>>106313362
>>106313491
Any windows fags who know if you can do similar thing with windows (I mean if MS has done)?
It's crazy how flexible Linux and the BSDs are.

>>106313621
If you're asking if it's possible to have a sub 100 megabyte Windows installation, know it's not possible.

>>106313621
afaik server core is the absolute smallest edition of windows available, outside of perhaps windows pe, which isn't intended for permanent installations

>>106311983 (OP)
>Ubuntu

>>106313621
>It's crazy how flexible Linux and the BSDs are.
as much as some people complain about package managers and their integrated nature in linux, this is actually one the benefits of them.
specifically, in windows, programs expect to be running in a full-fat windows installation, so windows can only really get bigger over time. in linux however, you can start with an absolute bare minimum and only install what is required to run the software you want to use.
you'd think these tiny linux distros would be of no use, but it's not true, as they will simply install the dependencies for any software you want to run on them. there's no equivalent mechanism on windows, at least not nearly to the same granularity as linux

>>106313702
Lmao, I assume that second one is just doing the Windows equivalent of swapon. So you can install it with only a gig of RAM but it needs to swap to do it.

>>106313621
>>106313781
as a side note, there was an attempt at a more windows-like standard software set for linux, called linux standard base, looking it up just now i just realised it hasn't been updated in 10 years... goes to show how relevant it was
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base
now obviously i'm not blind to the benefits of how windows does things, where you can practically expect most binaries made in the last 20 years to just work straight away, you'd be surprised to know that it usually doesn't take much effort to run older software in linux, either. like the linux abi itself (that is, the kernel) is stable and backward-compatible, so it's just a matter of having the appropriate dependencies installed to run old software

>>106313996
yes, i noticed that, and that is correct. even some linux install guides may prompt or recommend you make a swap partition/file before proceeding in the case of a lack of physical ram. windows calls it a page file, but it's the same thing as a linux swap file/partition.
i took the image from https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/hardware-requirements?tabs=ram&pivots=windows-server-2025

>>106314051
>more windows-like standard software set for linux
It simply doesn't work because all corpos that care about linux want it for servers or IoT shit not for regular desktop.

Old software is pain, especially proprietary shit. Hunting dependencies just kills all benefits of package managers we got now.
Why all fags seem to hate appimage? It just works for me, always using appimage for Arduino ide.

>>106313055
Its RAM usage is scaled depending on the amount of RAM the host has. This is also true for RAM usage by graphics drivers and such.
Also alpine might patch it somehow.

>>106312196
Windows 10 is from 13 years ago

>>106314293
Now I feel old.

>>106314293
That's a lie

>>106314293
10 years ago (July 2015), still a fair while ago

>>106311983 (OP)
skill issue

>>106311983 (OP)
And it still runs ten times faster.