Thread 106314703

Windows figured out and mastered GUI in the late 90s/early 2000s. Why can't Linux still agree on and figure out one standard GUI for all the way Windows has win32?

Linux is a kernel, not a GUI

>>106314703 (OP)
Windows has gone backwards since that time.

>>106314703 (OP)
Freetards are autistic and don't have the ability to consider how another person would see something.
Also Linux desktop is not really the main focus, only, again, autistic freetards keep hacking shit onto it.

>>106314703 (OP)
in windows you first right click release to open menu and click on the menu item requiring 2 clicks

in linux (most of the time) you rightclick without releasing, menu pops up, guide the cursor and release to activate entry

>>106314785
windows has gone jeetwards

>>106314703 (OP)
legacy microsoft devs have literally written playbooks on microsoft's philosophy during the golden age, yet linux fags insist on reinventing the wheel but never quite settling on anything.

It's because it's a community of elitists who believe that they are superior to everyone else, so they never agree on anything, even if it doesn't really fucking matter regardless. case in point >>106314857


>>106314812
/thread

>>106314703 (OP)
Listen yes it looks cool outside but Win32API is still meme.

>>106314857
I actually hate this behavior on Linux. Can count the amount of times I clicked wrong things because of this shit? Can you even turn it off? I see only qt apps affected by this.

The linux community makes a virtue out of making easy things hard so they can feel smart when doing them

>>106314907
Gotta keep the Lisp machine heritage, says a freetard

>>106314703 (OP)
>Windows figured out and mastered GUI
"Mastered" aka
1. Shit out ugly trash
2. Refused to update it
3. Tried to kill it in Windows Vista
4. Admitted failure in Windows 7
5. Made rounded corners in Windows 11 to make it less ugly

This shit completely barebones and only exists (like many other ms products) because ms has to provide backwards compatibility with abandoned proprietary shitware for business clients. Still, ms hasn't provided alternative that don't suck niggers balls.

>>106314812
true

>>106314907
Qt just has a particularly bad implementation of this. I've never had an issue with missclicking things except in Qt software, particularly qshittorrent

>>106315031
This is not a bait you dumb fuck. User32 is fucking ugly and obsolete, and this shit doesn't even support fractional scaling making desktop experience a blurry mess on scales below 150%. When I moved to KDE I was fascinated with how much better even stock qt fells, not to mention kirigami, how most system can follow light/dark theme. Even gtk3 apps (like pdfarranger) feel great on Windows compared to any other toolkits.

>>106314812
>Freetards are autistic and don't have the ability to consider how another person would see something.
Freetards make stuff for themselves, that other people might use our work comes as an afterthought. We're not obliged to consider your requirements aka mental handicaps, when nobody pays us for it.

>>106314703 (OP)
Fools admire complexity, geniuses enjoy simplicity.

>>106315096
They kinda improved it in qt6 by adding a small deadzone around initial mouse position, but using old qt5 apps like keepassxc is still pain in the ass.

>>106314703 (OP)
C'mon dude, i heard plenty of your bullshit already.
GNOME avoids the stress of having too many buttons, and you'll go "ebussy no usecase"
Plasma gives you all full acess and you go "too much gui, gonna krash"
Sway and Hyprland cut the crap and you'll call them "autistic ricers".
There's no pleasing people like you, even when there's literally one preset for each kind of user out there

>>106315138
>weus
they don't even know who you are

>>106315147
>Fools admire complexity(GUI), geniuses enjoy simplicity(tui/CLI).
Ftfy

>>106315234
>>106315247
inconsistent doesn't mean bad. the post-w7 GUIs fucking suck, and nobody is disputing that.

the point is, by in large, the shit fucking works. there's no core library rendering issues. even when inconsistent it's still functional.

>>106315297
>doesn't count!
Except it does. Giving the end user a cohesive UI is important. GNOME is a piece of shit, but Libadwaita is the best we currently have (and even that has its own problems). Also, your funny video is half a decade old.

>>106315297
The menu lighting up is not a bug but, a feature.

>>106315344
>Giving the end user a cohesive UI is important
it really isn't. you know why? because every third-party application is going to be different regardless.

if you weren't unemployed you'd understand this. it's a real issue when it comes to training users in different software suites.
>different versions of acrobat
>different versions of office
>document scanning and editing tools
>web browsers
>EDM, HRM, ERM software
>etc.

>>106315375
use case for working GUI?

>>106315394
>third party
Exactly. The base OS on the other hand, be it Winblows or Loonix, should have a cohesive UI with its default menus and programs. Normalfags might not care, but making your menus consistent is proof you care about the presentation and usability of your OS or programs, and even make it easier for the user to navigate through it. Just because you don't care doesn't mean everyone doesn't either, why do you think UX is a thing? why do you think Apple has its "human interface guidelines"? consistency matters.
>unemployed
ad hominem

>>106315522
Fuck, wrong pic. Also as I said before, Gnome does a decent job at UI, at least on a surface level. But when you start using it for some time, you notice the awful inconsistencies and retarded design quirks. You can read more about it here
https://woltman.com/gnome-bad/
So if you need to shitpost/baitpost about Loonix UI being le bad, at least do it correctly.

>>106314703 (OP)
>Windows figured out and mastered GUI in the late 90s/early 2000s.
xerox, commodore, apple, sun and many others mastered it before bill gates and did a better job.
>Why can't Linux still agree
i like you. you're so fucking dense that you think linux is a corporation like microsoft or some shit where you have no choices but to suck on bill gates' diseased cock.

>>106315297
What rendering issues are you talking about?

Honestly though Fedora KDE is the closest I've seen to a working Linux GUI. We're not there yet, but it's slowly approaching.

>>106314703 (OP)
>one standard GUI for all the way Windows has win32?
anon I've got some bad news for you...

>>106315844
Something I coded in 2001 in C using win32 api as the gui still opens today without needing any extra files or dependencies. So yes.

linux's font spacing is male virgin coded

Real Unix had CDE/Motif. KDE messed up by using qt and then Gnome forked off.

Win32 just werks, both on Windows and under Wine. There is no good reason to use any other API.

>>106314870
>If you want the ability to choose to make it your way, then you're an elitist.
Weird flex when it's all about letting the End User make the choice.

>>106315167
>They don't even know who you are.
Good. Let the design and code do the talking. I prefer the anonymity. If they don't like it, oh well.

>>106315297
Kubuntu 20? Kubuntu TWENTY?? Your only evidence of Linux's inferiority is Plasma bugs from over FIVE YEARS AGO?

>>106316762
>Plasma bugs from over FIVE YEARS AGO?

>>106316063
Not just their font spacing, their ui spacing as well. It doesn't exist. All the controls look off center and different sizes.

>>106314703 (OP)
Instead of one standard, we have many, and even those are customizable. A proper themed KDE is closer to the golden age of Windows than modern Windows is.

>>106316127
How would you like my fist in your bussy?

>Why can't Linux still agree on...
You're coming at this with ignorance. Obnoxious question and thread dismissed.