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Anonymous No.106316984 >>106316992 >>106316994 >>106317097 >>106317141 >>106317318 >>106317349 >>106318923 >>106319013 >>106319024 >>106319474 >>106319572 >>106319682 >>106319702 >>106321011 >>106321056 >>106321176 >>106321189 >>106321193 >>106322366 >>106324456 >>106326431 >>106326795 >>106327565 >>106327689 >>106327776 >>106328583 >>106328614 >>106329885 >>106331291 >>106334586 >>106335535 >>106335584
Is anyone currently right in this second using this port the SPDIF port on their computer?
who is using it

NO I MEAN RIGHT NOW
Anonymous No.106316992
>>106316984 (OP)
yes I use it
what now
Anonymous No.106316994
>>106316984 (OP)
Me.
Perfect privacy.
Anonymous No.106317097
>>106316984 (OP)
Yes. My Logitech Z-5500 somehow still work.
Anonymous No.106317141 >>106338324
>>106316984 (OP)
Yep. Another Logichad here.
Anonymous No.106317318 >>106319572
>>106316984 (OP)
I use it for my good old MiniDisc deck. My sound card is very old though, I doubt sound cards still have SPDIF nowadays, especially the ones on motherboard, only a few models for musicians must still have this.
Anonymous No.106317349 >>106317410 >>106319008
>>106316984 (OP)
What's so special about spliff?
Anonymous No.106317410 >>106319025 >>106319038
>>106317349
Mainly that it's digital out. So the crappy onboard motherboard isn't doing the amplification. The signal goes out to a real DAC on your external amp.
Anonymous No.106318739 >>106318946 >>106335659
If I had one I would, would be great for the DAC I have
Anonymous No.106318923 >>106319051
>>106316984 (OP)
I'm not using this particular SPDIF port but I am using one on my soundcard that acts as an input to pass-through the sound from my PS4 Pro to my headphones. What a shame they got rid of it on the PS5.
Anonymous No.106318946 >>106335659
>>106318739
same here
Anonymous No.106319008
>>106317349
It's very resistant to interference like ground loops due to being optical.
Anonymous No.106319013
>>106316984 (OP)
If I had a receiver I would be using it.
Anonymous No.106319024
>>106316984 (OP)
I use it. I specifically chose the motherboard I bought based on having it.
Anonymous No.106319025 >>106331575 >>106337572
>>106317410
i do the same via usb, not sure if optical has any advantage
Anonymous No.106319038 >>106319070 >>106319515 >>106327612
>>106317410
It has been 20 years since AC97 dude. The latest crab dacs are equal to any high end stuff if you have a high end motherboard.
Anonymous No.106319051 >>106319060
>>106318923
I use the spdif out on the tv, hdmi is an all digital transport for video, control and audio.
Anonymous No.106319060
>>106319051
Yeah my monitors don't have speakers so I have to route the audio some other way. PS5 would literally be unusable for me, without some way to split the audio out of the HDMI.
Anonymous No.106319070 >>106319481 >>106319572 >>106319722
>>106319038
perhaps. but it doesn't replace the utility of having one of these on your desk.
Anonymous No.106319474
>>106316984 (OP)
one of the most useful connectors on any PC motherboard. hope every single fucking motherboard includes one, forever. not even joking
Anonymous No.106319481
>>106319070
knobs are always based
Anonymous No.106319515 >>106328644
>>106319038
signal to noise ratio still sucks. I'm rearranging some stuff and switched to onboard audio and that shit has lower amplitude, gotta use my amp's volume control. lower line-out amplitude means lower signal to noise ratio.
you can argue onboard audio is "good enough" these days to not have obvious issues, like hearing buzzing when moving your mouse or copying files or noisefloor hissing. but it's still far from a dedicated DAC.
Anonymous No.106319572
>>106316984 (OP)
Never used but always wanted to. I just never got the chance and I never felt like investing in hardware that uses it.
>>106319070
Lovely
>>106317318
Maybe not now but not that many years ago most mid and high end motherboards would have a SPDIF output.
Anonymous No.106319682
>>106316984 (OP)
yeah
Anonymous No.106319702
>>106316984 (OP)
I am using with my 5.1 logitech surround system
Anonymous No.106319722
>>106319070
IM GETTING ONE
Anonymous No.106320876
thats like a whole separate cable with no other useage
Anonymous No.106320945 >>106320997 >>106322057
it is deprecated at this point since it has a physical ceiling and that ceiling was passed long ago by hdmi
Anonymous No.106320997
>>106320945
How many DACs even have HDMI? The high end stuff I've seen still very much uses S/PDIF. Some of the cheaper ones have USB.
Anonymous No.106321011
>>106316984 (OP)
Me. I do.
Anonymous No.106321056 >>106324370
>>106316984 (OP)
Literally every motherboard in existence has one and I still don't know what it does. Apparently it's better than analog audio?
Anonymous No.106321176 >>106331394
>>106316984 (OP)
It's pretty neat.
I use it.
But the port/connector is a massive piece of shit.
Fiddly, fragile and no grip whatsoever. The only connector for whom pulling out would be considered effective birth control, which makes sense, since there hasn't been much iteration of these things in a while.
Anonymous No.106321189 >>106327712
>>106316984 (OP)
I use it to connect my Yamaha receiver. I even bought asus atx motherboard specifically for this port
Anonymous No.106321193
>>106316984 (OP)
I'm using it right now.
Anonymous No.106322057 >>106322756
>>106320945
HDMI is a video connection though. If you have, say, DP to your monitor and HDMI to your audio gear, the audio gear shows up as a second monitor and you have to dick around making it into a proper clone display (which may not even be possible depending on resolution, for ex. old amps may not support 4k or very high refresh rates). Which results in two displays being driven at different resolutions, which makes your gpu permanently run in retarded high clocks instead of idle.
Anonymous No.106322366
>>106316984 (OP)
I have a bunch of some audio ports on my motherboard including that shit, don't even know what it does kek
Anonymous No.106322607
Does this output all the time even if you're not using it? Does this mean you can have multiple audio outputs?
Anonymous No.106322756
>>106322057
Not my problem, I just pipe everything through my OLED using EARC lol
Anonymous No.106324370
>>106321056
It's optical, sends digital info and let's an external and dedicated DAC do the digital to analogue conversion.
Anonymous No.106324411
I'm using it right now to connect my soundbar to my media PC
Anonymous No.106324456 >>106327772
>>106316984 (OP)
Its one silly little red glowing cable to connect to my home theater instead of all the shitty 3.5 mm cables
You're a fool not to use it
Anonymous No.106326431
>>106316984 (OP)
I am using it right now with my external DAC.
I was even specifically looking for motherboards with optical SPDIF. best way to eliminate ground loops and other interference.
Anonymous No.106326795
>>106316984 (OP)
I had to upgrade my motherboard and my new one doesn't have one. I am using a usb to optical cable though.
Anonymous No.106327565 >>106327579
>>106316984 (OP)
My laptop doesn't have it and I have no DACs that receive it, If you're like me and have a ground loop try a powered USB hub, worked like a charm.
Anonymous No.106327579
>>106327565
Ground loop with a USB DAC obviously.
Anonymous No.106327612
>>106319038
its been even longer since there was any non placebo reason to buy an external sound card
Anonymous No.106327689
>>106316984 (OP)
I use it. I had a mobile DAC for a while but upgraded to a real desktop DAC. I didn't buy the motherboard deliberately for this but I use it and it's great.
Anonymous No.106327712
>>106321189
>I use it to connect my Yamaha receiver
me too
Anonymous No.106327751
Guess I might as well ask here. Is SPDIF based shit or spending 5k on RME gear really the only two options to get an interface with working drivers?
SPDIF obviously doesn't rely on drivers but you'll have to live with consumer tier artificially limited bullshit.
Anonymous No.106327772
>>106324456
>conflating analogue and digital
Anonymous No.106327776
>>106316984 (OP)
I was running optical until I got a soundcard and now run 3.5mm out from there
Anonymous No.106328583
>>106316984 (OP)
Optical SPDIF is just stupid. Extremely finnicky cable and plug that you could just as well use Coax for.
Anonymous No.106328614
>>106316984 (OP)
My retro emulation PC is hooked up over optical because I didn't have any free analog inputs. Also the cable run is pretty long so it's nice to have flawless audio transmission without picking up any noise over the long cable.
Anonymous No.106328644
>>106319515
>like hearing buzzing when moving your mouse or copying files
That's still a thing when the GPU decides it wants to draw 35-40A over the long (turned into like 400A after the GPU VRMs), unshielded power cable it has.
Anonymous No.106328818
Yes, for my HiFi setup.
Anonymous No.106329885
>>106316984 (OP)
Nope but I bought a USB DAC that outputs it for when I have issues with ground loops
Anonymous No.106330576 >>106330834 >>106330990 >>106337631
what the hell is a ground loop and why is everyone using this connector so autistic about it no i won't use ai
Anonymous No.106330834
>>106330576
It's interference when 2 electrically connected devices have a difference in their ground potential.

Optical is not an electrical connection so it sidesteps the problem
Anonymous No.106330990
>>106330576
imagine connecting 2 wires in parallel, connected on both ends. they form a literal actual loop, and that works as an antenna picking up noise. this can happen with ground connections in audio setups, wrongly connected shit in gear etc.
Anonymous No.106331117
I use it for my speakers while keeping the other two 3.5mm on my board for headphones/microphone.
Anonymous No.106331291
>>106316984 (OP)
I have the port on my motherboard, but I have never, in the 35+ years of using a computer, ever seen the cable that connects to them.
Anonymous No.106331394 >>106333190
>>106321176
>But the port/connector is a massive piece of shit.
Facts. It is comically terrible. It's like using an ethernet connector with the tab pre-broken off.
Anonymous No.106331427 >>106333208 >>106336847
I wanted to use SPIDF. Shit has no locking mechanism. If my headphone cable tugged my amp and in turn tugged my DAC, I would lose connection. Not to mention the short, stiff ass cable.
Good idea. Actually crap compared to the convenience of USB.
Anonymous No.106331575 >>106333217
>>106319025
It's for ground loops.
Anonymous No.106333190
>>106331394
Worse.
>Tab pre-broken off, but lodged under the ethernet cable foreskin, so it's still stuck
Anonymous No.106333208
>>106331427
bro there's something wrong with your use of the tech. get longer headphone cables, get longer audio cables between dac and amp. this is the most retarded argument in this whole thread, by far. congrats on the top retard award
Anonymous No.106333217
>>106331575
not only, but general galvanic isolation. keeps noise away.
Anonymous No.106334586
>>106316984 (OP)
Not using it in my computer, but it's connecting my TV to my Sony hi-fi setup. Works fine I guess, nicer than having two or three shitty analog cables.
Anonymous No.106335535 >>106335553
>>106316984 (OP)
I plugged a toslink cable into my tv and dac, and now the little shit is stuck and won't come out no matter how hard i pull. It works but what the fuck, at some point i want it to come out again, retarded shitass design
Anonymous No.106335553 >>106336506
>>106335535
>at some point i want it to come out again
usecase?
Anonymous No.106335584
>>106316984 (OP)
Yes. It is the best port on my motherboard. I even have an extra adapter for a toslink input.
Anonymous No.106335659
>>106318739
>>106318946
get a cheap Asus DX board, has TOSLINK hidden in one of the jacks. but you need an adapter for regular optic cables. or get a cable that has optical jack on one end.
Anonymous No.106336506
>>106335553
2nd trauma to parents

SPDIF is a good stereo intercon. but just as some other anon pointed it out, the mechanical connection is crap. something like a bajonet mechanism would be great. on the second thought, HDMI is also mechanically flimsy and people like it
Anonymous No.106336847
>>106331427
The connector is keyed to only be insertable one way. It also will click or snap in when fully seated. You've clearly never pushed the connector fully into the jack if it falls out on it's own. It should be as secure as a good set of RCA cables plugged into a stereo.
Anonymous No.106337572
>>106319025
The advantage is that optical dacs are cheaper
Anonymous No.106337631 >>106338014
>>106330576
Electronic devices often have main earth ground (the one in the wall socket) connected directly to their own internal GND as well, which in turn is connected to GND on all their other external connections too. So for example if you want to plug a PC into an audio amplifier and both devices use grounded plugs, then once you connect the audio cable as well you also link the PC's GND with the amplifier's GND. These are already connected however, through the electrical system in your house, so when you add the audio cable that connects them as well you're adding a 2nd connection between them and as such create a loop. If the mains earth ground on the PC and amplifier is at different potential, then by adding that audio cable which makes a loop you have now provided a path for the current to flow through due to the different potential on the plugs the 2 devices are using. This current flow can sometimes be heard as a humming noise through the speakers the amplifier is hooked up to and is obviously undesirable.

Optical audio (TOSLINK) does not suffer from this problem because the cable is just plastic, it does not make any electrical connections at all and as such cannot form a ground loop.
Anonymous No.106338014 >>106339133
>>106337631
>This current flow can sometimes be heard as a humming noise through the speakers the amplifier is hooked up to and is obviously undesirable.
So that's what that shit is??
Anonymous No.106338324
>>106317141
Same but for my desktop speakers
Anonymous No.106338419
Yes with my Edifier speakers. It's good.
Anonymous No.106338460 >>106339133
>optical data standard
>can only manage 2.1 channels without some odd proprietary fuckery
I hate anything related to audio, it's all shitty walled gardens for basic functions
Anonymous No.106339133
>>106338014
It could be anything. It could be that the gain in your active monitors is turned up too high. It could be that the cables between the speakers and the DAC are not balanced and are picking up noise. My monitors start buzzing when they've been on for an hour.

>>106338460
Use case for more than 2 channels?