Thread 106322799

Now that they will remove OpenVPN in Early 2026, without port forwarding — is it time to look for an alternative?

>>106322799 (OP)
>mullvad removes port forwarding
>ivpn removes port forwarding
who is left?

>>106322799 (OP)
I'm not very familiar with VPNs beyond just the most basic settings, why is port forwarding important? I've only ever encountered issues with it when playing online video games, but I don't mind playing those without a VPN if it comes to it.

>>106322886
peer discovery

>>106322799 (OP)
AirVPN and Proton both have port forwarding capabilities I believe. I think some of the mainstream ones also support it like nord or express

>>106322909
Interesting. Does not having it impede torrenting completely or what?

>>106322943
nord doesn't.

You should have been using Proton the whole time.

>>106323153
I believe if you're not port forwarding you can only download from peers who are port forwarding and if two people aren't port forwarding they can't share files with each other from my understanding.

>>106323200
Interesting, thanks! I should look into it for non-VPN torrenting as well, I might be missing out on connections and not realizing it.

>>106323213
This is a better run down

>>106322799 (OP)
OpenVPN sucks, who cares? Port forwarding is what matters. I wish every day that I could still use Mullvad. I've been on AirVPN since they removed port forwarding. Speeds seem slower, the Web interface is horrible, the client isn't worth using, and I get blocked everywhere. I gave up and stopped using it on my main laptop because I was tired of solving captchas. I only have it for torrenting and I've started using Usenet more anyway.

>>106323237
The only way to use AirVPN is split-tunneling through Gluetun or as a glorified SOCKS5 proxy using wireproxy. You don't wanna mainline all of your traffic through it.

>>106323237
It's funny because a VPN service is the only way I can realistically run a BitTorrent client even for legit stuff. I'd love to donate some of my gigabit upload to seed actual Linux ISOs but I'm stuck with this AT&T router with the world's smallest NAT table and everything slows to a crawl as soon as the torrent client starts.

>>106323252
Yes I used to use it with Gluetun on my server for BitTorrent as well as on my laptop for general browsing but I gave up on the general browsing part because I was getting blocked constantly.

>>106323262
I suppose that's one of the advantages of 'normie' VPN services - large websites usually go easy on the challenges they serve to em cuz grandma who thinks McDonalds wifi is dangerous uses it. I'd probably run AirVPN + either Mullvad or something more normnorm but paying for 2 VPNs at the same time feels terrible lmao

>>106323277
Since a VPN service is pointless unless you can pay anonymously, most of the normnorm ones are out. I really don't want to pay for 2. I've been thinking of switching back to Mullvad and giving up completely on BitTorrent. All I use it for is games these days and I can probably get by without port forwarding on those because they're pretty well seeded.
It's also much more annoying to buy Monero with cash by mail now that Localmonero is gone so I'll be happy to mail cash to Sweden again.

>>106322799 (OP)
Mesh networking is the future of anons

>>106322857
As far as VPNs with port forwarding that don't require you to enter your email address go, Cryptostorm is the only one I've been able to find. However, it looks very obscure and I'm not sure if it's even legit, but if you want a VPN that doesn't require you to enter any personal information and still supports port forwarding, you could give it a go

>>106322886
They removed it years ago, but it adds up to openVPN removal.
Honestly Idgaf about openVPN I use mullvad app with WireGuard only.
Portforwarding has something to do with torrenting. Even though I torrent fine on mullvad.

>>106323164
>Proton
kek. That clown company snitching on users and wanna be Google?

> —
CLANKER DETECTED.
This is a botted misinformation post. Disreguard anything it says.

question: port forwarding only matters if you're running an endpoint behind NAT, right? so all these VPN services that don't support port forwarding will still let me use whatever port i want, as long as i can host it on my gateway with public IP?

>>106323925
No, it's going to be up to the firewall and NAT config of the VPN server that you don't control.

>>106323960
so "port forwarding" in this case refers to the VPN service being able to offer services on arbitrary ports? nothing to do whether or not the client/endpoint is behind NAT?

>>106322799 (OP)
Im kinda new to this and I don't fully get the port forwarding problem. Is it all about getring full speeds during peer to peer downloads or its something more than that? Im using mullvad to pirate stuff(I rarely seed after Im done) and so far all its well. Sometimes I get slower speeds, but I can wait. I only care about hiding my activity from my government so that I dont get fined

>>106324033
Port forwarding in this context is the ability to connect to the VPN server's IP address on a particular port and have that connection routed through the tunnel to the client machine. It doesn't matter if the client is behind NAT because he's only making outbound connections to the VPN server.

Oh god I'm gonna

I'm gonna

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORTT FOOOOOOOOOOORWAARRDD

>>106323400
>snitching
qrd?

>>106323237
what if your network/isp is being jewish about wireguard udp

>>106323403
I just setup a shortcut in XCompose to the dash to trigger people like you

>>106324178
I didn't have to set anything up, it's already compose dash dash

>>106324099
Not to mention their half baked 2FA App.

>>106324155
They can probably be jewish about OpenVPN too, right? AmneziaWG might help. The Mullvad client has Shadowsocks and UDP-over-TCP options that could help as well. https://mullvad.net/en/help/using-mullvad-vpn-app#wg-obfuscation

>>106322799 (OP)
mullvad is a euro honeypot, just observe the unusual inorganic shilling and discussions

>>106324059
right. so if i understandit correctly, all it means is whether it inbound connections are allowed or not. why not just call it that, then?

>>106324257
Most VPN services will assign you a single random port for inbound connections, they don't generally do 1:1 NAT and forward all connections because multiple clients can be using the same server at any given time. That would also cause massive security issues if the client machine doesn't have a properly configured firewall.
Technically, they're doing the same thing your router does when you enable port forwarding.

>>106324178
good, I wouldn't want a cogsucker reading my shit

Portforwarding is for idiots that shit their pants when someone says IPv6.

Doing shitty workarounds like NAT, just like it is the early 2000s

>>106323387
I used cryptostorm for many years. They used to be fine but I stopped when they basically went radio silent and deleted their forums. Some people also reported their tokens kept working even after expiration. It might be nothing but it's really weird behavior regardless

>>106324500
A lot of VPN services will do NAT66 because it's easier on the client side. The side effect of that is the OS sees a ULA address and deprioritizes it for outbound connections.
Even if they do give you a globally routable IPv6 address they really should drop inbound connections for security.
t. unapologetic user of NAT66 for the Wireguard network that proxies traffic from my phone to my house to get around site blocks at work

>>106324500
Try actually reading the thread, faggot. It has nothing to do with IP version or NAT.

>woooo finally got my mullvad containers up
>put it in my proxy switcher
>since they don't allow true split tunneling this is the only way to not have separate fucking browsers
>I'm gonna be able to use it for everything but 4chan
>YouTube
>you might be a bot
>Reddit
>Smug face haha you're blocked

>Turn it off

>>106323237
The only thing I use airvpn for is to plug the credentials in to my transmission docker image so that it can VPN, I kind of stopped giving a shit about my main desktop traffic being a VPN. Is Air really that bad for general usage? I've been torrenting with it just fine for the better part of 2 years

>>106325482
I've had a lot of trouble with it for browsing. I had trouble on Mullvad when I used it pre-portforwardgate but AirVPN really felt worse.

>>106324734

You only need portforwarding (NAT) if your device does not get a public IP. That shit is no longer needed with IPv6.

But it is ok, a network noob like you couldn't know this.

>>106325431
Sites blocking proxy connections for no reason isn't the provider's fault, go complain to youtube and sexy snoo website about it

>>106324242
You should think that for everything brought on 4chan. Especially the 'privacy' tools