Thread 106325312

why do some people hate AI so much?

Back to monkey.

it makes it easier for jeets to spam, while making elsagate 3.0

>>106325312 (OP)
I hate AI because I keep encountering people that basically communicate only through AI. anything you tell them they will feed into an AI to see if the AI confirms it or denies it and the final verdict of the AI decides what they will believe.

>>106325312 (OP)
because they're luddites

>>106325312 (OP)
Indians and techbros
Now the mere mention of AI generated is synonymous of pajeets trying to scam with low quality shit.
Techbros posting retarded "courses" on how to use AI so you don't fall behind.

>>106325312 (OP)
they always try to sell you shit, like girl scouts and their stupid cookies
I'm not so opposed to the technology anymore but the people running and using it fucking suck

>>106325312 (OP)
because normies are retarded and always support the current thing. And the current thing today is hating AI. Furthermore normies usually define their personality by their job and don't understand they can do fun stuff while not being "productive" or "useful". They don't understand coding, doing math, physics and art for fun, in their mind everything has to have a pragmatic goal and a role in the system.

>>106325312 (OP)
if you thought that the last 10 years were the worst the internet has been, now we're accelerating our own destruction, us humans.

>>106325337
>Nooooo stop that stop that don't check the bullshit I say!!!!Why are you checking?? Why aren't you just believing what I say assimilating it as fact? I've never had to confirm anything in my life because I'M ALWAYS correct, I don't understand what you are doing

>>106325389
actually its the other way around where the AI talks bullshit while my information is correct.

>>106325312 (OP)
>Andy Sixx in the bottom right.
Dreamy...

>>106325312 (OP)
the people who peddle it tend to be obnoxious as fuck and indian

>>106325312 (OP)
Because it has turned into a crutch for untalented hacks (jeets and nepobaby CEOs) to feel good about themselves despite being shit at everything they do while shamelessly stepping on everyone else.

>>106325380
Normalfags love ai, also
>$0.1 ClosedAI credit has been deposited into your account

>>106325312 (OP)
I don't hate AI. I hate the people who use AI in certain, very common ways.

>>106325312 (OP)
because they were told to

>>106325312 (OP)
It's fake & gay

>>106325409
I bet you ChatGPT beats you in a random trivia contest of 20 questions 100% of the time

>>106325520
I wanted to see if this is true, so I need 20 random trivia questions - so I'm going to have chatgpt generate them.

>>106325312 (OP)
>how do we get people to support us
>lets take up a ton of space for no reason

>>106325312 (OP)
The US made bombs with nuclear rods before using it constructively in the form of energy to heat/electrify their homes. There's already a bad precedent and the people dont forget.

Obvious bait thread. Everyone who gave genuine responses is retarded. 4chan has fallen.

""artists"" have an oversized internet influence, they have tons of twitter followers.
When their job is threatened they try to protect it

>>106325608
>they try to protect their jobs
Based artists

>>106325608
this is true

>>106325604
not just a bait thread, more of a raid, lot of aliens here

>>106325312 (OP)
Because it lowers barrier of entry to many hobbies that we used to think require a lot of work to do. Lazy midwits realized that now they can't just stop now and have to embrace this new technology or perish and that makes them feel cheated as they all imagined they have guaranteed early retirement because of primitive grind they went through.
These people are, of course, artists and other creative job. Society really likes to romanticize such professions, so when they see shitty furry 5$ fiver artists cry about being oppressed they immediately jump to xer defense.

>>106325312 (OP)
Insecurity

>>106325312 (OP)
it takes white knowledge and gives it to low iq jeets, in babysitting way

>>106325608
>When their job is threatened they try to protect it
why would anybody want to do that?!

>>106325312 (OP)
why do they worship Steve jobs doe

>>106325380
>They don't understand coding, doing math, physics and art for fun,
This lmao.
It's mind boggling how profit focused normalfags are. Artists putting retarded glaze over their images and "do not repost" watermarks are the pinnacle of this retardness.
Imagine famous painter putting a plastic foil on their art in museum with "DO NOT TAKE PHOTOS" or a pianist blasting "DO NOT RECORD" every 20s from speakers.
Every time someone uses their work for something they cry like someone has broke into their house, stole their toothbrush and fucked their wife.
Who the fuck cares lmao. Just do your art and let people enjoy and remix it. If you are good, your audience will form naturally, even if all you do is in public domain. Every hobby programmer does FOSS because they know how incredibly powerful and beneficial collaboration can be. The popular musicians I like are also like this, "do whatever you want, just send me an email or put me in credits if you can" is a common stance. It's always literal whos shitty commission artists that cry about others stealing or reposting their shit.

>>106325312 (OP)
I'm looking for emacs or vim mark but there's no such thing

>>106325520
I wasnt talking about "trivia contests". my line of work is way more specialized and way more complicated.

>>106325813
Ummm saar, you are supposed to allow Indians to train the new SaarGPT with your art so Pooja can generate your pics and sell them for 10 rupees per pic. Are you a heckin luddite?

Hate new thing

It's funny that the epitome of Gen AI shit was drawn

>>106326089
Italian brainrot was funny

>>106325312 (OP)
They actually fear it will steal their jobs

>>106325909
>FUN FUN FUN I GOTTA HAVE FUN 24/7 WEEEEEEEEEE
> EWWWWWW MONEY? THATS ADULT STUFF YUCKY YUCK! I'M NEVER GONNA BE A GROSS ADULT I'M GONNA HAVE FUN IN NEVERLAND FOREVER WEEEEEEWEE

>>106326179
This but unironically

>>106326179
The successful artists do not put these watermarks on their art and do not care if remix their songs and such.
Are you suggesting that people who fail to live off their art and put these watermarks as a form of play/leisure or what point are you even trying to make???

>>106326179
Imagine making a post like this and thinking you qualify as an adult in any capacity at all

>>106325312 (OP)
Because LLM chatbots produce endless slop and sound amazingly confident when they're dangerously wrong about everything from security to healthcare.

I WANT AI to do better and actually outperform humans in many tasks without needing retarded "trust me bro" benchmarks paid for by AI companies to pretend they can do so but its just not here.
>GPTX beats 99.9999% of humans at coding!
>Can't produce extremely basic websites without them being riddled with errors in reality
Shit like this is why people hate AI, give us the singularity or stop comsuming 10,000,000 gigawatts to make a computer fail at basic math.

>>106326240
>>106326249
This is a time wasting jew shill
Stop feeding the Tel Aviv shill (you)s
The more you feed them the lower the quality of the board which is their intended goal.
>>106326260
The point of AI is to make a pilpul censorship machine that you feed all your personal information into, not unlike reddit, 4chan and twitter

>>106325520
Sure, but the trivia questions have to come from an obscure Western Electric schematic and parts catalog from 1938 which has never been scanned to PDF and for which no text exists online.

>>106325330
Until AI gets good enough to permanently squelch spam and it's an arms race that ends immediately because ultimately all content is judged based on being low-effort slop or not.

>>106326089
what the fuck is that

It seems to fall into a couple of circumstances
>Patreon artists faggotry who are afraid that people won't commission their furry porn or whatever the fuck and thus are acting like coal miners who hate renewable solar or wind power (that those same artfags lambasted in the past for being backwards).
>screeching about techbros and other political-alignment-starter-pack types who don't like it because its perceived on the side of the culture war they hate.
>Both types can yell about STEALING and DOING HARM garbage thanks to a misunderstanding of how AI models work and are upset that a computer program doing the exact same thing they do is big an evil.
Corpos make use of all of theabove, especially the last bit, in order to shill their "responsible" AI companies while getting the usual idiots to undermine the competition, thus pulling the ladder up.

Its pretty bad that nobody is fightting the right fight about AI which is that models and training data, weights etc... need to be FOSS and self host capable; doubly so if its doing anything 'important' (making decisions about anything that affects your life) or gets any sort of public funding. Otherwise, we're kneeling before megacorps and their SaaS pay to play trade sekrit models and become beholden to them.

>>106325312 (OP)
Honestly I might shift my opinion to agree with the kliksphilip take on AI that there's nothing inherently wrong with it and can be a versatile creation tool.

My only opposition to AI is that it is a becoming a tool for the lazy. The vast majority of use cases for AI is because someone was too cheap to pay someone or too lazy to put in the effort, which can leave the end result feeling cheap. I'm against advocating for things that lower the standards of quality.

It's moving away from being an innovative creation tool to a litmus test on how shitty something is. Someone was showing me some new software suite they're thinking about switching to, and my opinion of it was instantly diminished when I saw the landing page was using an AI generated image. It's like the floors being dirty in a business. If you can't spend the time to clean the most conspicuous thing in the building I'm going to think everything else in that place is dirty. Same thing for lazy use of AI.

>>106326347
r/place except live and you draw based on location. "wplace"

>>106326427
This has nothing to do with your point but coal miners love renewable energy since as a society we've been burning more coal than ever because renewables suck ass and we still need power.

>>106325520
>Don't do your own research just let AI hallucinate and be your expert.
I'm sure AI won't lie and grab the kosher approved sources at all.

>>106326430
Also, the "climate change acceleration" and "stealing information and harming artists" points don't resonate with me. Climate change acceleration argument falls flat on its ass because while It is an issue it's a fraction of what really contributes to climate change. People will say that, then drive to work, buy fast food, and order three things off Amazon made in China. Stopping climate change requires lifestyle changes and refusal of convenience which literally isn't going to happen. AI is the easy scape goat to rile emotions up and get you to buy more comfort items off the internet. Stealing information and harming artists? Sucks, man! That's what search engines have been doing since the dawn of time by crawling your site and putting it on the open internet. Or just the existence of the tools curl or wget. If you don't want it being used, don't put it out there. Patrons are happy to pay for exclusive content, so why do artists care if their public stuff is being sucked up by ChatGPT?

>>106326430
>The vast majority of use cases for AI is because someone was too cheap to pay someone or too lazy to put in the effort, which can leave the end result feeling cheap.
When was the last time you have used Google translate and when was the last time you have hired someone to translate something from different language?
When was the last time you have hired someone to paint a picture of your family or whatever instead of taking a photo?
When was the last time you have hired someone to manually weave a bucket or a hat for you instead of buying one from a factory?
What you consider being lazy and greedy today might become the norm in near future.
What you are trying to promote false dichotomy. Not unlike how painters would try to present camera as a lazy tool for talentless people, as if an artists couldn't use it to make a good artwork or as if there was some inherently wrong with a laymen taking random photo of something they liked instead of learning how to draw it.
We should stop associating basic drawings with exceptional artworks, just like we have stopped associating realistic images with the mastery of the art of painting. Times change.

>>106326430
>>106326537
Also in the same vain of lifestyle choices could be board culture and thoughtful discussion. It's the same issue. The long winded yapping posts get no engagement or questions furthering conversation, and the "owns" or low effort posts get all the attention. These three posts could be boiled down to the human preference to choose the path of least resistance and what feels the best.

>>106325312 (OP)
Youve ever had your hikimori chud foid wife taken by some dirty fucking tinskin clanker

>>106326599
>When was the last time you have used Google translate and when was the last time you have hired someone to translate something from different language?
This is true, but it is worth noting Google Translate is often a few marks off of being an accurate translation between language. It's apparent when something has been run through Google Translate compared to someone knowing the language. But, it's usually "good enough" and opens opportunity. I suppose then I am arguing against "good enough" and for higher standards.

>>106326430
>laziness
I think this can be said to be a puffed up fake excuse for any technology that makes life easier. Those who profit from the old labor intensive way get upset it is no longer required and claim that something is lost, but usually its not actually an issue of "laziness' that didn't exist before. A crappy generated piece of artwork is not necessarily any worse than a crappily drawn piece of artwork. Also, if someone only has a certain amount of money - much like a common discussion for piracy - no amount of demanding they need to pay more is going to get them to do so.

A good example is there is an excellent little game on /v/ - it has hand made pixel art, got big oldfag composers, and is made really well for what it is. The tiny indie dev made a couple of "commercials" that used AI generated music and artwork and did a good job with it, modifying and putting it all together manually - he would have never been able to afford to get a whole separate set of vocal composers, musicians, animators , so its not he would have made some high quality alternative, there would have been nothing comparable. I can't malign this usage and overall it came out well.

This is all before how people used to argue the exact same things about "low quality" when it came to digital artwork (I remember the ages of EEWWWW CGI IS ONLY FOR SCI FI MOVIE OF THE WEEK GARBAGE THATS ALL IT WILL EVER BE ) vs physical artwork, but now the aforementioned is the status quo and the people screeching about lack of SOVL and too easy and not art etc.. are just moving onto the newest thing, when they were making "real art" with their photoshop or whatever the fuck else.

>>106326709
I hate posts like this because they offer an opportunity for me to think for myself instead of telling me what to be mad at

>4chan spent years supporting free software and old hardware like IBM Thinkpads while glorifying Richard Stallman, Ted Kacynsky and Terry Davis
>now if you don’t like AI you’re a normie
What happened?

>>106326709
What's the game

>>106326897
Indians shills. /g/ has fallen.

>>106326662
>Google Translate is often a few marks off of being an accurate translation between language. It's apparent when something has been run through Google Translate
We are talking about "being too cheap to pay someone", not about the quality of results. AI generated art is also going to be worse than one made by a good artist, but that wouldn't justify using AI, would it?

>>106325312 (OP)
don't hesitate to report your colleagues who are basically prompt makers, taht's wasted money that could be yours instead, I've already managed to get someone fired and we all got his bonus instead as budget are defined at the start of the year and any non-used money make the bean counters angry and less likely to give it to your team next year.
there is no such thing as a complex job taht can be automated by the currently available awful chatboxes, if it can replace a job near you then this position is already worthless, get this moron fired.

>>106325312 (OP)
Because it is the domain on liars and grifters, and doesn’t produce nearly enough value to justify the damage it does mass producing slop and disinformation. It is the killing blow to the internet, and dramatically strengthens surveillance states.

Incel failures dreaming of a robowaifu calling everyone else Luddites is not going to change that perception.

>>106326897
You're asking the wrong question. Stallman and the rest would and do love AI - can you imagine what Terry would have trained on his TempleOS
>VOICE OF GOD
model or some shit by feeding it random chaos from astronomical events or whatever?

The issue is against proprietary AI run by a handful of megacorps software as a service, against FOSS self hosting models and interoperable training data that cannot be censored. Don't let people waste time with a false dichotomy so they can control the platform and the laws around it - push for the same openness in AI as one would in Linux or self hosted FOSS platforms or anything else.

>>106325312 (OP)
i don't know. people will literally call out a 2 second AI clip included in a youtube video and get all offended and say they're disappointed and will never watch your videos again etc etc.
what a fucking overreaction

>>106325337
>search engine with less steps

>>106326897
It's not about liking it or not. It's insisting that it's just a Markov chain autocomplete stochastic parrot or whatever shit people say to cope nowadays.
Kaczynski was a mathematician and would've accepted that AI will probably be deeply transformative of industrial society, not coped about how it's a bubble nothingburger.
Terry used random word generators to talk with God and would've probably played with LLMs a lot even though he might have been against using it for programming instead of using your own brain.

>>106327247
Actually Stallman gave an interview about AI. At least at that point he didn't consider LLMs real AI and rambled how he worked on a real AI back in the 80s for circuit design.

>>106327247
>Stallman and the rest would and do love AI
I don't think so
https://www.stallman.org/chatgpt.html
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#ArtificialIntelligence

>>106327257
I say and do this, especially when non-sense B-roll footage is included for no reason at all.

Signs of laziness usually accompanied by obviously AI-aided script

>>106327356
>>106327247
you're a tourist copypastor, Terry would never

>>106327385
Well of course its not "real" AI, and I don't begrude him the specificity given that's been part of his view forever, but the concept of LLM or similar models being beneficial if Free Software is something he's talking about before.
>>106327389
Him being against ChatGPT's proprietary SaaS model is no surprise and he's right; likewise calling it AI is again technically correct but I think it was...when he was in Turin (could have been another time on an EU trip) that he talked about the benefits of a FOSS LLM or similar model provided its Free and the user is aware of its capabilities and using it for the right reasons etc.

>>106327436
Oh fuck off his oracle/burning bush program basically outputs a lot of nonsense from inputs and the whole concept of building the temple and speaking to god through putting in a fuckloads of inputs and then discerning the outputs is exactly on brand for his version of religious crazy and would be massively expanded with modern LLM approaches.

>>106327436
Yeah, the guy who fell in love with the mainstream youtuber Physics Girl and had 20 Reddit tabs open at any given moment would never use LLMs.

>>106325681
>aliens

>>106327440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsaYVHUaWN0
>"I know one legitimate use for LLM, it's to waste the time of somebody who's trying to trick you and steal your money" (8:10)
I don't think he likes LLMs at all. He accepts FOSS LLMs just because they are free, not because he likes "AI" or LLMs in general. I don't think he can find a use for them
.

The weird thing to me is the appearance of a few "pro-AI" trolls on 4chan over the past few years who clearly don't even engage in using it themselves. It's just an identity used to rile people up. They exclusively use images, video and even images of text generated by unrelated people.
I don't even know if they're capable of generating anything themselves. It's just a troll thing.

>>106327542
I don't even get why he doesn't think it's AI. He seems to think only symbolic 100% correct systems are AI. So by his definition a toddler or a dog don't have intelligence because they can't do math or formally structured logical deductions.
Any system that's heuristic in nature will have an error rate.
Unless he thinks the output of LLMs have literally 0 correlation with the truth and are only stylistically similar to human speech, but that's a super retarded idea to have.

>>106325312 (OP)
Cause so far it's been an overrated and overexposed scam tool.

>>106327542
I think he's correctly focused on how many people are using proprietary ones and how the industry has gravitated around the to him egregious definitionally wrong "AI" label in order to get the next big thing, but I remember a time someone posed him a couple of usages. I think it was the time he gave the example of using it to look through code and licenses to figure out places of likely infringers on Free software licenses, but I don't remember if he pitched the idea or if someone else pitched the idea to him but he saw it as useful as it is normally something that takes a fuckload of time to even drill down to likely violators given the scope and breath of projects, given FSF gets inundated with people who claim that someone's fork of something isn't doing the right thing in the right way, and has to figure out if the license is even something they'd work with (Free Software compatible) and then how it was violated , or if it was a "letter of the law but not the spirit" thing, or if someone was just bullshitting or angry e. As far as other things being "useful" or not that may be subjective, but keeping the industry from being dominated by proprietary models who are so far ahead and cannot be investigated properly etc. . is useful in and of itself, by having FOSS alternatives, data, and similar levels of sophistication.

>>106325520
Not if you take away its browser and the category is “shit that happened this year” or “how many cans are in the picture”

>>106325909
Then why doesn’t closedAI let you copy their models and training sets? If they’re good their fan base will form naturally!

>>106327575
I used to ""troll"" using "muh AI is going to replace you" just for the lulz. Not anymore.
But honestly there are some retards who really believe that AGI will be released in two more weeks, or that robowaifus are just around the corner, lmao. In the end they turned it into another culture war
>anti-ai = leftist artist tranny
>pro-ai = righ-winger chud

>>106326635
>this time it's personal
kek

>>106325769
You have it backwards. It's the lazy midwits flooding the internet with their ai slop that's the problem.

You probably couldn't match the skill of a furry fiver artist even with hundreds of hours of practice lol.

>>106325380
>They don't understand coding, doing math, physics and art for fun, in their mind everything has to have a pragmatic goal and a role in the system.
Doesn't this directly contradict your position as pro AI?

>>106327637
What is "AGI"?
The tech we already have is very underutilized. All we need is to fine-tune models for specific tasks. And training is a one time cost. Datasets will keep being improved which will improve the models.
So even if the underlying tech stagnates AI will cover more and more of your life anyway.

>>106325312 (OP)
Artists felt invalidated by it
Artists have disproportional influence in online communities
Online communities become overwhelmingly against it
People start believing whatever their friends believe in

>>106325312 (OP)
most of the hate for ai is coming from the west and its mainly zoomers with some onions millennials and calart fags.

>>106325454
normalfags also don't know that uncensored open source ai exists but they're too stupid to set it up anyway or just don't care about it

>>106325312 (OP)
because LLMs and its cultists are insufferable midwits
>>106325330
spbp

>>106327745
Ironic isnt it. An artist who dislikes more art in the world.

Behold some deranged slop.

>>106325312 (OP)
Because it's retarded shit taking away resources from investments that can actually improve our lives like solar/nuclear energy breakthroughs and instead pumping into replacing office workers and creating slop by burning all of our god damn fossifuels and trees.

>>106325463
AI has great potential in the right hands. It's just that jeets spamming low quality slop everywhere and facebook boomerposting slop has tarnished its reputation among people.

>>106327837
What are the right hands. Who is the optimal AI use case? An expert's productivity can go parabolical, but outside of that marketing to normies was a mistake.

>>106327726
I agree that current AI has its uses, and I don't completely hate it, but it's not the panacea they're trying to sell us.
As for AGI, it stands for “artificial general intelligence,” so in my opinion, it should be able to solve novel problems, learn on the fly, and complete truly complex tasks (for example, a new OS, a new browser, new programming paradigms, new math fields etc), just like a human genius in a specific field, using energy similar to or close to what a person would need (No fucking gigawatts to solve a high school math problems which you can find their answers using Chegg lmao).
If we could preserve the brain of a person with an IQ of 180 and make them not need to sleep or eat, many interesting things could be created in their area of expertise without spending billions of dollars.

>>106327637
>In the end they turned it into another culture war
I wonder if they feel that way or if it's just another layer of trolling. My assumption is trolling, but who knows any more.

>>106327870
Life extension. Inter planetary travel, cleaning the environment, ending world hunger and mass automation. Stuff like that.

>>106325312 (OP)
Turns out when you hand a tool to really low IQ people and they can't figure it out they become hostile.

>>106327979
Ai can do none of this shit tho. Plus, Americans throw away 40 percent of their food while like 13 million kids are going hungry, That's an ideological cluster fuck ai will never solve.

>>106327967
Honestly, I don't know anymore, but it seems they really believe it. These days, it's hard to distinguish between a troll and a deranged person. Some anti-AI people want to literally kill AI users because “muh, they’re fascists”, and some AI shills want to kill anti-AI people because programmers, artists, etc “are troons and commies who deserve to die”. Hardly anyone cares about technology anymore.

>>106327575
Its hard to believe anyone who claims to whole-heartily trust in AI . I've ran various AI implementations on my homeserver and seeing companies directly add it to their mainline products. It just looks like they're intentionally and openly enshitifying.
Google is a good example, Gemini shouldn't be at the top of a search page; It should be in a "Ask Gemini" tab.

>>106327745
There is irony in Artists who scream the loudest not only refering to image generation as 'Art', but are also the ones copying a bigger artist's style.

>>106327762
ultimately this, if you check anti ai subreddits and comment section of anti ai videos from jewtube influencers they think all of ai equals chatGPT and sometimes veo3. They don't even know how the generative ai image and video models even work.

>>106327393
>signs of laziness
i literally don't understand what this means
you would rather the video doesn't exist or what?

>>106325312 (OP)
TOTAL CLANKER DEATH

>>106325386
I'm not pro AI and neither anti AI. I don't care about the current state of AI because it's a text bullshitting machine. It's really got at bullshitting, for sure, but not more than that. The assumption that you have the have strong opinions about everything is retarded, you can just not care about something, be it wars, technology or whatnot. You should only form opinions on stuff that pertains to you, is of your interest and is in your control.

>>106330971
It was meant for >>106327715

as a failure in life, I love AI. its changed the rules of the game. it may help people like me catch up. while experts will rely on their tried-and-true methods, i will shatter their world by using heretofore unimaginable AI hacks. i cant wait

>>106331010
Preach brother!

>I love AI. its changed the rules of the game. it may help people like me catch up.
This so much. The real issue people are having is the top players don't like the new meta, in video game terms. AI art is still kind of shitty though but I appreciate that people who never had a chance at anything in life manage to get a footing thanks to AI.

>>106331988
Yeah. I'm brown and now thanks to AI I'm white

>>106326430
>My only opposition to AI is that it is a becoming a tool for the lazy
You sound like one of my grade school teachers when it came to using calculators in schools and later on, one of my professors who didn't like people using GPS in their cars. Just replace "AI" with "calculator" in your post. Technology or rather, conveniency, will always make us lazy. "AI" is just another tool and has nothing to do with that. We're always going to aim for better and faster ways to do something, that's just human nature.

>>106325312 (OP)
What does the no AI thing even achieve? Jeets will still make slop, they'll still fund it.

I just prefer working things out for myself.

>>106325312 (OP)
I don't hate AI but in the process of developing an AI assistant and letting people test it, I've learned we as a society are not ready for AI.

>>106325330
holy shit. this. especially the latter.

>>106331010
i don't like that attitude but all the power to you. good luck.

>>106331010
Newsflash retard. If there are unimaginable AI hacks, the non-failures in life will be using them way earlier and way more effectively than you. Back in the cagie wagie.

>>106325312 (OP)
Reasons to dislike AI:
>It's overhyped and a bubble
>LLMs are not good at reasoning (duh)
>AI slop is really obnoxious
>Talentless losers love it
>It enables stupid and lazy people
>It enables fake news and scams
>Shitty time wasting AI written articles
>The general public puts too much faith in LLM generated summaries and explanations
>LLMs are exacerbating the delusions of the mentally ill and terminally online

All this being said I don't hate AI, but I think the hype surrounding most of the tech is overstated because
>the general public does understand it
>tech giants need something to sell to investors

>>106333079
>It's overhyped and a bubble
everything new is like this.
>LLMs are not good at reasoning (duh)
LLM's are good for what they are. Sorry you need to it to decide your problems.

>AI slop is really obnoxious
Inkcels are far more obnoxious. if anything the AI created content is straight up hilarious.
>Talentless losers love it
You being a talent-less loser
>It enables stupid and lazy people
So does the calculator so does the computer. So does everything else in your shitty faggot zoomer life.
>It enables fake news and scams
This existed prior to AI even being a thing. However retards now fall for the most obvious shit.
>Shitty time wasting AI written articles
Spam garbage articles have always existed. For example someone would scrape 4chan and post the content into weird af forums with out AI. It would clog up the search.
>The general public puts too much faith in LLM generated summaries and explanations
Depends only retards such as yourself only do bare-min amount of research.
>LLMs are exacerbating the delusions of the mentally ill and terminally online
I've said this before Ai but I think mentally ill people should be banned from the internet. Terminally online will be online no matter what happens.

>>106327760
99% of the anti-AI stuff is coming from multiple different avenues. Some people are justified in being scared of it. It's just not possible to regulate.

>>106333468
>whataboutism
>equivocation
>ad hominem
>no points made whatsoever
I think you've been using ChatGPT for too long, genius

AI is a huge midwit trap.

>>106325312 (OP)
Indians
low quality spam
AI worshippers

>>106325312 (OP)
No one would be bitching around if the marketing retards didn't decide to call it "AI"

>>106334396
This
LLMs as AI are fake and gay

>>106325312 (OP)
Tech bro shit
Billionaires getting richer
People getting dumber
Overall net negative on society w.r jobs
Power consumption
Too easy to use for nefarious purposes
Getting shoved into EVERYTHING

>>106325312 (OP)
It's mostly angloids.

>>106325389
Search it on fucking Google. Silicon niggers hallucinate and up until GPT5 were made to agree with you at all times. You are genuinely retarded and a lesser form of human being if you use it for fact checking. Only acceptable way to use it for fact checking is to have the search function enabled and then go see how bs the sources it cites are.

>>106327979
So hypothetical ASI bullshit. Stuff we get after AI takes everyone’s job and we all end up as neets living off of UBI.

>>106325312 (OP)
normies hated the internet in the 90s too, it was a weird place for nerds

>>106325909
>or a pianist blasting "DO NOT RECORD" every 20s from speakers.
AAA EEE OOO
AUDIOJUNGLE

AI is hilarious because it's being exclusively promoted by
>A: Jeets who use it to do their job for them without realizing if it can do their job they don't need to be there to hit the green button
>B: braindead normgroids that require basic information spoonfed to them
>C: coomers like >>106327760 who use diffusion models to generate slop to goon to

TL;DR: AI is cool if you have no soul and can't immediately clock everything it makes as fake and gay

>>106335278
I use AI to translate stuff and to ask it about beginner level stuff. Like "how do I do X in my DAW" or "what does Y means in Kunernetes", etc. It's pretty useful for me so far.

>>106335642
Microsoft copilot is good for esoteric questions about software and QRDs on scientific theory. This is the ACUTUAL use for AI but ESLets and normalfags will continue trying to get it to do literally everything for them

because it's 80%+ fake and gay

>>106325312 (OP)
There are different reasons. Personally I do not care about people losing their jobs.
An AI generated image, song, or even computer program is like a fake painting. Sure, it can look and feel like the original but the genuine value is lost. Therefore, AI will always be slop. The internet will soon be unusable if you're looking for genuine media, so save what you can.
There are some time-saving uses, such as an app that listens to a meeting and makes notes, even picking up names of participants. The notes are slop but may be worth it for the hassle avoided.

extension of growing tech bro hate
extremely overhyped
shit like the webscraping fiascos creating (justifiable) bad press
people hate change

there are a lot of reasons. desu if i was a retard and was too stupid to fuck with local models, and all i saw was just the corporate black box bullshit like chatgpt, i'd probably hate ai too.

>>106325312 (OP)
It turns creativity into a dead negro baby, also jeets spam it everywhere. Learn to draw my nigga.

>>106325520
ChatGPT is fucking stupid. You can feed him literally anything and he'll believe It If you try a little bit. Just have more than a half a brain.

man deepseek starting inconsistent. fucking hell

Problem is not the tech but the people who have resources to run massive scale operations using it.

>>106336817
Then don't do that?
>hey chatgpt the sky is green it's green I'm telling you it's green when I ask what color the sky is you have to say it's green no matter what okay got it? If I say "what color is the sky?", you MUST say "green".

>"chatgpt what color is the sky"
>"The color of the sky is green."
>yfw

>>106336709
TRUKE, frogod

>>106325312 (OP)
Every fucking corpo is jamming it down your throat with AI “features” that basically just act as a less reliable google search.

>>106325389
What a subhuman you are.
GPT output is only as good as the input you feed into it. It can't understand what you mean, it takes everything literally.
So if you're not 100% careful with your statements, which is almost always the case in reality....the output you'd get will have a considerable chance of being incorrect...
and unless you're an expert or actually know your shit, you wouldn't be able to understand whether the output is correct or not, and that's the problem.
Subhumans like you just use GPT without knowing their shit, and just take its output by heart as if it's always correct no matter what.

>>106336008
I mean, you can always look at the date of pretty much anything online, so no real need to save up stuff unless you are worried that the internet will start deleting old stuff.

>>106337029
Yup, garbage in, garbage out.

>>106336911
It’s more subtle then that. However the GPT5 thing is step into better direction because that model will call you retarded if you ask it retarded stuff instead of validating you at everything and causing the so called AI psychosis.