Thread 106330523

FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
Usage: paste into Powershell, run.
irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>and Office?
Same link, select Ohook option
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
>Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
>Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps
>10 years support on "IoT LTSC", 5 for "LTSC"
>Manual version upgrades
IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7

W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
>Same as W10 version except:
>UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
>Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
>Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can

>Installing apps on LTSC
Use WinGet or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i

>W10/W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
Preinstalled with: Edge, Win32 system apps, MS Store, OneDrive, Weather, Movies, Music, Candy Crush, etc
Auto-reinstalls apps on feature updates
1.5-3 years support
Forced version upgrades

>ISOs:
Windows IoT LTSC https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
Windows https://pastebin.com/nUMgAr0b
Office https://pastebin.com/G8w5qu6z

>Should I debloat / build my own ISO?
If you need to ask, then no.
If you know what you're doing:
https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt

>Portable programs & reinstall-proofing
https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2

>Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc)
https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

>I miss Windows##
OpenShell/RetroBar/WinClassic/StartIsBack

>LTSC Install Guides
https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
https://rentry.org/concisewin10
https://rentry.org/ltsc
https://rentry.org/fwtarchive

Previously on /fwt/: >>106294838

sopheet

There was no need to make the new thread so early.

>>106330621
minus the sloppiness

>>106330523 (OP)
>W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
>Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
Microsoft already backported the scheduler to windows 10, which makes windows 11 effectively worthless.
>fact_pepe.jpg

>>106330523 (OP)
Cute

>>106330969
And funny

>>106330705
she can give me a sloppy

>>106330621
>t.

>>106317327
So, should I uninstall the update? I even forgot about this thing, but better safe than sorry I guess. Is it confirmed that it's destroying SSDs, or is it just wiping partitions?

>>106330523 (OP)
Is it safe to use windows update using that activation script?

>>106331262
The methods that MAS uses don't modify any Windows files so Windows Update is untouched.

>>106330523 (OP)
>5X more demanding on hardware for less performance.
You're joking right?

I love Windows!

>>106330523 (OP)
Why is she is lying in a box?

>>106330910
Prove it?
I have a 13 gen intel, should I go back to Windows 10?

>>106331594
>>106331649
Win 11 is superior

>>106330523 (OP)
Friendly reminder to try out the scoop package manager in PowerShell.
It's based.

>>106331095
see >>106330555

>>106331669
chocolatey is better

>>106331697
The issue has been reproduced by other people and Phison acknowledged it though, it isn't a nothingburger. The good thing is that for most SSDs rebooting seems to fix the issues created by the new update.

>>106331740
So this was happening mostly to people that used fast boot?

>>106331752
It happens when you copy over 60 GB of files right at once, or when the controller is under heavy load (reports are saying over 60% load).

>>106331790
Yes, but with anon saying that restarting seems to fix it then I was thinking fast boot shut downs.

Is the WD SN850X affected by the Win11 SSD killing update?

Is it possible to use XP or 7 securely in current year? What is the set up?

>>106332331
No internet access whatsoever

god i want to bury my face in those pantsu

>>106332331
Firewall block everything by default. Use MyPal68, Supermium or Thromium to use the modern web safely.

>>106332360
get in line, pal

>>106330910
used to think the same thing but Win11 LTSC IoT performs better for me than Win10 LTSC IoT
plus I like explorer tabs

iv cum 4 times over 6 hours to this image

do you modify the hosts file to block ads or it slow the connections?

Onenote forces me to pretty much update to new version. Ok, its a handy app that lets me sync notes between pc and an apple phone. Used to be able to be signed in just onenote without microsoft then taking liberty to sign me into every other microsoft office app I have on my pc. New onenote seems to do this. I log out of word and excell, one note now also logs out. Its really annoying, I feel like I am always fighting microsoft every time they updates things. They always pushing for everything to have an account. Anything short of going back to linux I can do here? Im happy just to be signed into onenote, but not everything else.

>>106334020
Why not just use a third party note app like Obsidian or something?

My 5 year LTSC Win 10 just got "Activate" notification today. Wtf man how was this possible? I thought I already blocked all the connections.

>>106334228
What did you originally activate with? Something KMS based?

>>106334240
I forgot, I think it was the old method. I tried reactivated with PS script on OP, seems working.

>>106334255
Activating with HWID with MAS is permanent. It'll never pop up again.

>>106334266
Yeah I did it. But now an app called "Meet Now" appears. I don't feel good bros...

>>106334284
>app called "Meet Now"
>https://www.howtogeek.com/704271/what-is-meet-now-on-windows-10-and-how-do-you-use-it/
I think you are lying. I have never seen this one in iot ltsc w10.

>>106334298
Maybe I never removed it and just hide it, then somehow it showed again now. I can't remember what tweaks I did from years ago.

oof can't uninstall the problematic w11 update. fuck my life
my computer shall rest until this crap gets fixed

>>106334132
Ill have a suss. Thanks

If I move my Documents folder to another drive with Windows' option for that, will the programs and games that save stuff in there break? Or does Windows automatically link to that folder or something

>>106334670
You can link specifically where your "My Documents" etc. folders are on the system by going through its properties.

>>106334686
Yeah that's what I was gonna do, but I did it first with my Pictures and Download folders, and I noticed that my desktop wallpaper disappeared and it's all black and any new downloads go to the default location in C: (tho I'm guessing this is because of my browser settings) so I wanted to make sure that things won't break by moving Documents

>>106334808
If you just change the location of My Documents and move everything within it to the new folder you linked it should be fine, though I guess you could run into programs that're hard coded to put things in the normal My Documents location instead of anything different.

i dont usually save sloppa but goddam thats good sloppa

im on w10 ltsc and the "wsreset -i" command that is supposed to enable the microsoft store isn't working, is there another way?

>>106335375
Install winget directly through asheroto's winget-install script and install MS Store stuff through that instead.

>>106335375
Obvious stuff, but make sure you ran that command as admin.
Otherwise try sideloading this package
https://github.com/stdin82/htfx/releases/tag/v0.0.24

>>106330523 (OP)
sex with anime girls of indeterminable age

I just opened up a brand new Dell tablet with Windows 11 and it's a piece of shit. Even after running a debloater script it's using 60% of my RAM with zero applications open. I'm on battery saver mode with the brightness cranked way down and this shit is still eating my battery by idling at double digit CPU usage (no applications open). I've never knew tablets had fans until I ran the LibreOffice installer on this thing. No, not even running LibreOffice; running the God damn installer. I've never used Windows 11 before as my main PC is still on Windows 10, so I gotta ask if this is just the standard Windows 11 experience?

>>106331087
>Anon used Troll Rebuttal!
>It missed!

>>106335375
You're probably just being impatient. It's not instantaneous.

>Laptop comes with Win10 Home
>overwrite it with 10 IoT LTSC
>Wi-Fi won`t work no matter what I do
>even installed all windows updates, the updates I installed LTSC not to have
T-thanks, /g/.

Now I`m torn between getting a regular Win10 Pro and debloating it afterwards or trying Win11 IoT LTSC. It probably has to do with the 10 LTSC being too old to be compatible with my network adapter.

But that`s a problem for next week me.

>>106336714
If even installing the wireless driver from OEM site isn't working for whatever reason then I dunno what's going on.

>>106334316
Just download a clean iot LTSC W10/11 iso and reinstall everything.

>try to uninstall the KB5063878 update that's been giving SSD's the shits
>error 0x800f0825 in windows update, powershell using wusa.exe, safe mode, etc.
>not even a the 24h2 recovery image downloaded from windows update works (installs it the bad update and then says "lol no")
How the fuck do I get this bullshit off? I don't want my new laptop to get fucked out of the blue and I don't trust M$ to put out an update in a timely manner.

>>106336884
If it was actually destroying every single 11 PC's SSD this would be a much bigger news story. You're most likely fine.

>>106336884
This is why I stopped updating altogether, I installed iot ltsc W11 in June and it only took couple of months for them to deliver a fucked up update.

>>106336989
Honestly, I'm more pissed about the lack of straightforwardness in windows update than the news (seeing that neither my laptop nor my desktop are on the list so far). Just the fact that this one update on particular is so stubborn for no good reason.

Happened on enterprise 22h2 for me as well, except it was with an install vs uninstall. How hard can it be?

>>106335716
I installed Fedora on this thing and the fans instantly went quiet and the battery instantly stopped being drained. Idling at 2% CPU usage and 30% RAM usage. FUCK Windows 11

>>106334228
>how was this possible
You almost certainly activated with something like KMS
It's impossible for HWID to de-activate unless maybe if you change most of your hardware
With HWID you can even completely wipe your drives, clean install Windows, and it will auto-activate the moment you're connected to the internet because your HWID and license are on Microsoft's official servers

>>106335375
Make sure you're using "Windows PowerShell (Admin)" and not the regular "Windows PowerShell"

>>106336714
SDIO almost always fixes drivers problems like this one:

https://www.glenn.delahoy.com/snappy-driver-installer-origin/

>start SDIO_x64
>select "Download Indexes Only"
>wait about 30 seconds for the indexes to download and the list of drivers to appear
>in the red box on the left side, click on "Select all", then "Install"

This fixed the Wi-Fi and audio not working on multiple of my machines

Installed Windows 11 after being buck broken by Linux.

Somehow installed the PRO version when I wanted the Home version.
Any way of reversing this or if I have to write a USB into a bootable drive, what brand's USBs are most reliable for this job?

>>106338405
Literally why would you want to be on a worse edition?
You can activate any edition with MAS HWID for free

>>106338557
Fair enough then.

But let's say I want to go back to Linux after say my drivers are properly supported. What would be a good USB to back up Windows pro on? Or should I just buy the Windows 11 pro thumb drive?

You can download any Windows ISO for free at any time and use Rufus (Windows) or WoeUSB-ng (Linux) to create a USB installer with any 8+ GB USB drive

>>106338680
You can download any Windows ISO for free at any time and use Rufus (Windows) or WoeUSB-ng (Linux) to create a USB installer with any 8+ GB USB drive

>>106338914
I know that. I just don't want to accidentally buy a USB that is somehow incompatible with the process.
Anybody done this before and what USB model did you use?

>>106338943
any mainstream USB would work, if it doesn't, it's usually some bios setting that needs to be changed like disabling secure boot, or that you set up rufus incorrectly

nta but to humor you, I used a cheap ass Adata 64GB, Kingston ones as well

Is there any reason I shouldn't just get the portable version of (almost) all programs through scoop?
idk why but it feels a bit wrong

>>106339049
Different anon here, some of us HAVE had USB drives not work for unknown reasons, BIOS settings not helping no matter what. It is random. I got unlucky just once so far, but I have a couple of reliable, permanent Rufus-duty drives right now: a Patriot Rage Lite for Winhoes 11 and a Movespeed drive for Ubuntu 24. Sandisk and Lexar drives are what some other folks swear by. I bet PNY is fine, too.

>>106340150
Portables usually leave lessstuff in Registry, it is not a bad idea, I say. Uninstalling is often then simply deleting the app folder and maybe anything leftover in your AppData folder that sits alongside Documents, Music, Pictures, etc.

was the MAS debooked as spyware yet? october is drawing close and my boomer parent needs the update loicence, but the system kinda has sensible data
>>106340150
its the way to go

More Sophie.

>>106340509
MAS is open source and has been a thing for over 5 years now. Someone would have found out if there was anything sus

>>106330523 (OP)
this script works irm https://get.activated.win | iex
thanks cutie

Does anyone know why zen/Firefox keeps screwing up captcha at random times when trying to post? I keep getting expired captcha loops forcing me to clear site cookies in order to post and it's annoying having to constantly do it every day, sometimes twice in an hr.

>>106330969
>>106332360
>>106332610
>>106333230
You butt hurt boys are so cute and silly! :3

>using W10 IoT Enterprise LTSC
>fractional DPI scaling at above 100% results in blurry images in applications like Firefox or Chromium, which is due to rasterization shenanigans where it lets the OS handle scaling (unlike, say, image viewers which just render images at native pixel density regardless of your display settings) except said scaling is outdated and doo-doo
>this was apparently addressed in 22H2
>Enterprise IoT uses 21H2 and will never receive any of that
simply put, it's over
I wonder if Linux does any better

>>106341746
Just change to GAC 10 Enterprise and enable the ESU licenses.

>>106341746
just stop scaling. its that simple.

>>106341762
>GAC 10 Enterprise
What's that?

>>106340931
marry me

>>106341782
Normal Enterprise

>be seduced by the "W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC is just better and won't constantly be phoning home and changing your shit with updates" gaslighting
>install straight from the MS source files
>instead get a schizo W11 that keeps trying to forcibly join a nonexistent domain and ping a Store that isn't installed and overwrite almost any critical change in the registry to anything it breaks
>almost any storage that gets plugged in over USB, whether a phone over cable, a jump drive, or a full external HDD, gets automatically mapped as SCSI in the device manager and file transfers fail
>any attempt to fix the drivers get overridden on reboot because anything besides Big Brother Windows' Device Management Service Regime-Approved Drivers gets ignored as 'Outranked' in the event logs no matter the device, no matter the registry edits, which get unmade

is it really so much to ask to set up a computer that doesn't get uppity and think it has the right to contradict me

>>106342256
You talk like a schizo

>>106342256
you sound like a normal person

What's the go to post install debloat tool now? WinUtil?

>>106342256
none of that happened

>>106342654
ShutUp10, WinUtil and Winhance are all good.

>>106341610
Happened for a third time today, what in the fuck could cause this?

>>106341746
I was able to "fix" it using the following hack:
>in firefox settings: disable text only zoom, set default zoom to 67%, set minimum text size to 24; in windows: set monitor dpi to 150% (alternatively: zoom to 80%, dpi to 125%)
this will help me cope and seethe until 2032

>>106343332
(what this does is render images as if DPI was set to 100% but scales up text and UI elements)

erm why the fuck did this just pop-up on my pirated copy of photoshop (from monkrus (ive been using it for a year with no problems until now))

Easiest way to get a good copy of enterprise to activate via KMS is to just use the evaluation centre right? Or does the multi-edition iso from Microsoft include enterprise?
Would be nice if there's a safe place to get 23h2 if possible.

>>106343494
The DNS/IP might've changed for their servers. Just load up the latest a-dove-is-dumb blocklist in your hosts.txt and you should be fine.

>>106343527
The best way to activate current Windows these days is via MAS's HWID method. Permanent activation linked to your PC's ID which can survive re-installs of the particular version you used. And for KMS these days there's MAS's TSforge method using KMS4k, which KMS activates your system without adding any files for 4000 years.

>>106343551
>a-dove-is-dumb blocklist
thank you. i thought i was gonna have to pirate it again or some shit. this is useful.

>>106343624
Adobe are fucking freaks when it comes to trying to stop pirates. No other company tries this hard.
Thankfully that list exists if anything.

>>106343624
>>106343494
Do you not know how to use a firewall?

>>106344754
I mean yeah, this. You should have photoshop.exe denied of all connections.

>>106343602
why does microsoft let people do this

>>106345112
It's why the OS is free to install in the first place these days. Actual OS licenses are so low on their totem pole of money making that they just don't care. Even official MS tech supports use it.

>>106343494
I use CC 2018 to avoid this mess.

106335570 is on thin ice.

anything good coming to 25H2? dark theme explorer is okay, but did they change anything performance wise?

>>106341746
this is one of the reasons why I'm on 11

>>106345195
>did they change anything performance wise?
There's a very good chance they will come to 24H2. Supposedly there are some but MS changelog doesn't list any. Remember the big feature updates are just "enablement packs" now so anything minor like tweaks and core applications updates is more likely to make it into a quality update. I would also expect new start to make it into 24H2 when its done but that update is still just in beta channel anyway

>>106341746
Does 2021 LTSC even have all the new DPI changes? As does DWM respect the per monitor DPI aware v2 label in manifest or does it still just assume applications are only per-process DPI aware? Not that I expect anyone else in this thread still writes C++ Win32 in 2025...

want to install windows 11
does it really encrypt all your hard drives automatically when you install it? wat do?

>>106345341
Only if you install with an MCT-made USB. USBs made with Rufus can disable this automatic Bitlocker setup.

There's something weird going on with language strings on my LTSC (win 11). There are things like "opennewtab" or "setdesktopwallpaper" instead of user-friendly ones. Same goes for the sidebar in explorer where there's a blank shortcut which doesn't link to anywhere and only has gallery icon visible.
Granted I did convert localized Enterprise ISO into LTSC using PID.txt method, but out of curiosity I downloaded English language files, but the above remained the same. What gives? Should I reinstall the system again?

>>106345341
>wat do?
Go to bitlocker settings and set a password

is there a debloat script that can make windows run as cool on my laptop as my gnome linux install? i just want to play porn games on windows

Can you disable Windows Defender in Win 11 after you've already installed the OS? Like with Shutup10 or other powershell script?

>>106349125
https://github.com/ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover

>>106345195
They keep improving File Explorer, at a slow pace sure, but they seem to be doing fixes there.

Also apparently the Start Menu is getting big changes too under the hood, one big advantage is going to be the option to disable the Recommended section

Nothing big coming to the taskbar yet, just new animations (that should've been there from release) and small changes to the calendar and tray

>>106350097
God bless Anon.

>>106349125
There's an administrative template policy (Windows Components\Microsoft Defender Antivirus) for disabling Defender, but it requires you to disable the tamper protection option from within beforehand, so that the remediations won't kick in
>if you want to do this within the registry, create a DWORD value named "DisableAntiSpyware" in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender and set it to 1
>but setting a real-deal group policy should generally be more persistent

And there's that github script the other anon linked but that might be too nuclear for your taste
>>106346160
Quite an oddity, as if it couldn't output the right string from the necessary MUI resource for your language (missing or improper?)
Are you sure the ISO you've downloaded is verified genuine and not corrupt? (https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media#verify-authenticity-of-files)
>Granted I did convert localized Enterprise ISO into LTSC using PID.txt method
uhh, i think you meant regular LTSC into the IoT subedition, yeah?
Otherwise you can just input the IoT key post-install to change the edition, no need for PID.txt (unless it's absolutely necessary)

>>106350358
>Are you sure the ISO you've downloaded is verified genuine and not corrupt?
I got it from massgrave and yeah that was pretty much the first thing I did after I noticed these odd strings. Adguard verified my ISO's hash (Polish Enerprise LTSC). I have never had issues of that kind with Win 10 LTSC before nor could I find anything on the Internet about my specific problem.
Ultimately I went with ShellExView and ShellMenuView to identify registry keys for those strings and some of them had references such as '@%systemroot%\system32\themecpl.dll,-10' etc. to pull from but they didn't. I replaced those with plain strings and it worked and that worked. I still can't find the registry for 'Task Manager' context menu string though.
To add more mystery to all of that fresh after installation the entire Windows/Defender locked me from modifying any files on C: drive. To the point where I couldn't even add plug-ins to my photoshop directory. That one got solved by disabling ransomware protection in Defender, but not before I fixed error 0x80080015 by disabling LUA - before I couldn't make any changes to Defender settings despite Administrator account.

All in all this is one hell of an OS and like I mentioned - I never had to jump through so many hoops to set up my system.

>uhh, i think you meant regular LTSC into the IoT subedition, yeah?
That's what I meant. Apologies for rambling a little. I thought that PID.txt would save me extra seconds after installation (I really don't know if that didn't mess anything up, honestly)

Will W11 run worse on my Ryzen 5 3500X/GTX 1060 compared to my current W10?

>>106350576
Yeah, what you've described sounds cursed. I'd rather start off with a clean slate: backup your important stuff, wipe off data from the drive, and install just LTSC proper. Make sure that nothing's abnormal, and only after that use the product key changing trick for converting the install to IoT LTSC
>the massgrave script is able to change editions too, fyi - then again it will do the same thing and change the key for virtual edition swaps (like EnterpriseS to IoTEnterpriseS)
I'd also make sure whether any of your hardware isn't at risk of failure - the target drive and the setup medium you used, RAM, etc., but that would be me being paranoid reading all the horror that you've experienced

>>106351343
>I'd also make sure whether any of your hardware isn't at risk of failure
Yeah, the only thing that might've contributed somewhat (and it's a stretch) would've been the flashdrive I used. It's an older one that's been collecting dust for a couple of years, so who knows. Other than that all the components are straight out of box. I suppose there's never a guarantee, but I'm not losing my sleep over them.
I think I'll go with a clean reinstall though. So I should first install the Enterprise LTSC localized in my language and after that run with the key input method?

>>106351455
>So I should first install the Enterprise LTSC localized in my language and after that run with the key input method?
Pretty much so. Especially wipe the will-be-once-again system drive off clean and prepare it during setup. Again, have backups earlier of your important data
Only when the problems exhibit again (even before the edition change) will it make the situation even more cursed

Win 10 LTSC or Win 11 LTSC? Which one runs faster?

>>106351674
do you know what a react native web app is and do you have any idea how fucking retarded it is to make something like that a basic constant feature of your OS?

W10.

>>106351701
What about infamous 'updated scheduler' for all the AyyMDS and Intelavivs that come with Win 11 apparently?

>>106351671
Right. I tested the ISO I downloaded (yet again) in a VM just to see if everything's good and to be sure on that fron. So far all's clear. Everything worked flawlessly OOB.
I'll probably use different flashdrive though. Thank you for at least acknowledging my issue Anon. It's one thing having to deal with all that, but finding nobody to bounce thoughts off off is a different tale...

What is the best free antivirus for Windows? I've heard there are some websites that test this kind of thing? Which one filters the most virus types? Or is just the best in you guys' opinion?

>>106351785
Microsoft Defender and common sense
nearly every antivirus uses the same "detector database", so unless you're dealing with something completely new, then it will get caught and quarantined.
don't download shit from untrusted sources that you can't verify

>>106351701
>web app
They're not web apps tho

>>106351674
On newer hardware w11 will unironically be more responsive than the later w10 builds

>>106351916
t. lying 11igger

>>106352122
friendly windows thread

>>106330523 (OP)
I assume new AMD cards need to use 11 ltsc correct?

>>106351916
by newer i mean literally the most recent and most expensive parts no exceptions. just in case anybody has a 7800x3d and a 6800xt and kingston fury nvme drives and tries to say that should be good enough lol. its not lmao. that guy is poor and deserves a bad experience.

>>106352293
So it's only for those 0.1% with 5090s and 9800x3ds/9950x3ds?

I know registry bloat isn't a thing anymore but, is there any benchmarks or concrete evidence showing long term windows installs get slower?

I'm talking stuff like drivers not getting properly uninstalled from an old printer when you get a new one and still loading. Shit running in the background like tasks you can't interact with.

The reason I ask is because I've been meaning to do a clean install on my like 6 year old Windows 10 to 11. I have so much stuff setup and customized that'd it'd be an ordeal to get everything squared away again.

Any insight on the former and tips for the latter? I was thinking about backing up my documents folder on my NAS daily, and doing the partition tip in the OP.
Anything else? Is there any programs that like containerize my programs with their settings so I can just do something like docker compose?

>>106352313
yeah. how can you expect to run the most technological advanced operating system ever without the best hardware? dont forget to upgrade everything next year too! you wouldnt want to fall behind.

>>106352152
not particularly
new DX12 features will be made 11-exclusive but I'm pretty sure it'll take a while for it to start mattering, plus 10 users can always cope via DXVK or the occasional native vulkan game

>>106352373
>new DX12 features will be made 11-exclusive but I'm pretty sure it'll take a while for it to start mattering, plus 10 users can always cope via DXVK or the occasional native vulkan game
I see, but im a heavy gamer, so probably?

>>106350171
>one big advantage is going to be the option to disable the Recommended section
Already can

>>106352465
lol wrong gpo

>>106352122
>a single twitter post
>from over a year ago
Yes. Also webm plays like the search service was either stopped or crashed, a typical deblooter problem

>>106351916
W-what about Celeron 847 laptop from 2011 t-though.

>>106352436
yeah

>Rufus's W11 workaround fails
>Try rebooting?
>Fails
>Turn off TPM, and maybe secure boot
>Still fails
>Reflash
>Still fails
>/product server
>Success
>But why was I having trouble in the first place?
>Rufus version 4.4
>Latest version: 4.9
>One version after 4.4 introduced new workarounds for 24H2

FML. At least it had a mostly happy ending.

>>106352152
>>106352373
You're not going to get WDDM updates on 10.

LTSC is obviously going to be also out of date.

no. fuck youre disingenuous shit. explain why this hardware >>106352293 on a fresh install dled from the links in OP with no other changes at all. still has the "it takes multiple frames for the context menu to appear" problem.

>>106352713
>You're not going to get WDDM updates on 10.
>
>LTSC is obviously going to be also out of date.
So I should go 11 LTSC or just the normla one?

>>106352676
Yep, Rufus is the kind of software you always want to use the latest version of

I'm planning to dual-boot into linux from my C: drive. I already configured it and unallocated enough space.
I still want to keep w10 just in case (mainly for some games and apps). My question is: should i update it to w11 before start setting up linux?
I won't use windows partition daily and I already block updates, so lack of security patches isn't an issue for me. However, I heard nvidia will be dropping its driver support.

Currently i have w10 home (22h2, debloated after insallation), should i bother changing it to something else?

>>106352967
Change your Home into Enterprise with MAS. Then re-activate with MAS's HWID module and use its TSforge module to activate ESU so it'll get updates until late 2028.

Is there an easy way to upgrade from W10 LTSC 2019 to W10 LTSC 2021? Do I need to reformat and reinstall?

>>106353184
Download the LTSC 2021 ISO, mount it and use the setup.exe to in-place upgrade. This is the correct way to upgrade LTSC versions.

>>106352825
That's for you to decide.
Go see if you need any of the feature set from whatever WDDM ltsc is running.

If this is all too confusing I would recommend just running pro education. You're gonna hate it if you find out you want a feature or function ltsc hasn't updated to yet.

>>106353225
Thanks! How safe is this? Do I need to backup my important stuff?

>>106353247
It's safe. You go through the setup and it'll ask if you want to keep all your stuff, obviously click that box.

>>106352747
>"it takes multiple frames for the context menu to appear" problem
Never expeimrienced this but the first thing I do on a new install is revert to the old context menu

>>106353332
its gaslighting like this that im really really sick of. its inherent to win11 and is visible in every video ever of somebody right clicking the desktop.

>>106353571
>you are gaslighting because you don't use X and don't watch videos of other people using X
Why would I even bother with new context menu when the old one is functionally superior?

>>106353911
because the old one does it as well. that you (pretend you) dont know this is what tells me you arent being honest with me. you can say "i dont notice" or "i dont care" but saying it doesnt happen is an outright lie.

>>106331624
She's a vampire that's her coffin bed
She looks 12 but she's actually 360 years old

>>106353931
>because the old one does it as well
WOMM. I remember it did seem delayed coming from Linux but that was just because they trigger at different times, in Windows it only triggers on button release.
If you're experiencing more delay than on w10 then idk
>you must be lying if you don't experience the same perf. problems as me

>>106354149
>*as everyone else
yeah pretty much.

>>106354240
>>*as everyone else
Proof?

Anyone have any issues with extending the W10 updates past EOL?

>>106353229
>That's for you to decide.
>Go see if you need any of the feature set from whatever WDDM ltsc is running.
>
>If this is all too confusing I would recommend just running pro education. You're gonna hate it if you find out you want a feature or function ltsc hasn't updated to yet.
I just want the slop and trash to be gone, and I LOVED 10 ltsc iot, so I was wondering if 11 ltsc was as good

>>106352833
Thing is, I kinda assumed I already was on the latest version, because usually when a new update was available, there would be a pop up. Hell, on 4.4, I even did made it do a manual check and it claimed it was the latest version.

>>106354754
By that I mean: after you've activated ESU, have you had any glitches, breakages, BSODs etc.?

I'm forced to migrate to Windows 11

How bad is the OS really? Everything I hear about it is bloat, unoptimized and even spyware.

How much of the telemetry and data mining can you actually turn off?

>>106354926
stick to 10

>>106354774
What is slop and trash?

Modify an iso and remove the programs you don't want, or use the consumer experience GPO.
LTSC is like a sledgehammer when you can use a mallet for that. I'd only consider it if you're like dead set on running windows 10 past it's consumer EOL.

>>106355073

the illusion of privacy LTSC provides

can someone help me? should i do windows 10 iot or 11?
also do i need to buy an activation key after i downloaded from the bootable usb? what are people talking about with HWD

>>106355368
no choice but to pick 11 if you are going to use your PC for more than 2 years

>>106355368
10 IoT LTSC, you can use the activation script in the OP to get around having to pay for it, MS doesn't really care. It'll be fine to use for a couple years, maybe more, if you must upgrade to 11 or something else after that point, just backup your drive and do an in-place upgrade.

>>106355384
i figured yea since 10 is only until 2027.
also what gives? i have an external ssd 1tb and im trying to use rufus on it for the 11 iot, and it keeps crashing. do i need to format my ssd in some specific way first? its basically new so it shouldnt be broken

>>106355402
>using a 1tb ssd as a boot disk
Can't tell you why it's crashing, but I can tell you that's a bad way to use it. Just buy a USB stick since storage space in the tens of gigabytes is dirt cheap, format it, then flash the ISO to it with Rufus. If Rufus itself is the problem, make sure you're using the proper version. I suspect you're running Win7 currently, so you need to use Rufus version 3.2 or prior, visit the github releases page and tab back a few pages.

>>106355423
im using rufus 4.9. and im too lazy to get another usb drive which is why im using the big one. ill just wipe and reformat it after i use the iso. i guess i needed to format it? im doing that now, maybe that fixes it

wtf. still wont work

>>106355539
Next best guess is a corrupted ISO, you'll want to go check out the hash and compare it to the IDs in the OP rentry, if it's fucked, you'll have to redownload.

>>106355559
how could it be corrupted tho, i just downloaded straight from massgrave

>>106355591
Sometimes you get a hiccup in the data flow, sometimes your drive records the data 0.001% inaccurately because of an infinitesimal temperature fluctuation affect the components, sometimes an errant neutron hits a satellite or a cable, sometimes God just wishes to cause you pain. Take your pick of any of these, but the only way to be sure you have an accurate ISO is to check the hash.
>https://rentry.org/ltsc
See table of contents, jump to image verification.

>>106355619
i compared hashes and this link is totally different from the one from the massgrave download
https://www.heidoc.net/php/myvsdump_details.php?id=p8166f112307ax64len

>>106355831
Best to redownload then

manage to disable defender but this shit's still running somehow

>>106351671
>>106351750
Just wanted to give an update on my OS reinstallation. Newly downloaded ISO worked excellently. No idea if that was image corruption previously, but what's important is that no everything is performing as it should. No MUI/Defender issues of any kind.
Thanks for the tips Anon.

Can anyone help me out with a sound problem I've had on a clean install of windows (11 IoT)? Regardless of using headphones or speakers via optical port, there are some weird crackling or popping noises. But for the life of me I can't understand why they disappear all of a sudden once I open up foobar. Almost like the driver stabilizes. I've been trying to wrap my head around it but no dice. I'm on asus b650e-e with updated bios and all drivers up-to-date, btw.

>>106336714 here

>>106336759
>>106338154
Turns out I am retarded, I tried everything, used every driver version I could find in vendor websites and installed a billion dependencies and updates, EXCEPT trying to download the newest driver on the manufacturer&s website itself, problem is fixed, already reformatted with all updates removed, fuck off Microjeet.

By the way, the guide seems to be out of date, since the activation method doesn&t work anymore, had to manually go to the github and some settings screenshotted were different.

Or maybe it&s because I did it on win10 instead of 11.

Now apparently I have to fix my keyboard, no problemo..

Also made a privacy.sexy bat and it is almost 7000 lines, hopefully I won&t break anything further by overremoving stuff. I can still reformat if it becomes too crippled.

>>106355539
>>106355423
>>106355559
>>106355619
>>106355915
in case anyone has the problem again, for me it was the shitty fucking usb-c port on my laptop not have stable power source for the complex writing. i switch to usb-a port and rufus is working fine now

Is there a way to change the windows boot dots-making-a-circle gif?
I've searched, but all I find are things to change the logo but not the loading animation itself

>Complete a game
>uninstall
>random folders and files appdata remain
Are there any programs or ways that log these things? I think revo unistaller had something similar but i can't remember.

should i do 10 IoT or 11 IoT???
i really dont know. 10 is aesthetically better but idk

>>106356679
i just dont want to deal with having to manually upgrade in only 2 years

>>106356244
>But for the life of me I can't understand why they disappear all of a sudden once I open up foobar. Almost like the driver stabilizes.
Could be latency issues? Might want to check LatencyMon on this one.
Are you using the generic HDAudio driver windows provides, or the manufacturer-specific ones (if so, specify which manufacturer and driver release; might want to also specify the audio codec on the hardware side for extra info)
>>106356560
The boot circle/ring at the early boot stage are basically glyphs from the boot TTF fonts (and that also depends on the locale, though most likely it's Segoe in your case). Try modifying them.
But as they're tried to the boot loader, there might be hoops when dealing with modifying boot-related files, especially PE binaries - from violating the signature to winload.efi just refusing to load the files that are not MSFT-genuine, to PatchGuard kicking in.
https://www.tenforums.com/customization/202103-how-change-spinning-dots-boot-circle-graphic-post2637887.html#post2637887
>>106356613
BCUninstaller should still be good, no? There's a function to navigate to a leftover program folder and it will do its best to find any other leftovers (file and registry) and let you delete them. It's not 100% error-prone, but it should do the trick.

>>106354754
>>106354923
The method that MAS uses doesn't alter any Windows components so you shouldn't worry about outcomes like this.

>>106356889
>BCUninstaller
Neat I'll check it out, i don't need it to be perfect.

>>106355619
>sometimes an errant neutron hits a satellite or a cable
Literally every transmission standard in use uses error detection and correction to guard against this, it's a nonissue.
But you should still check the hashes of everything you download

>>106356889
>tried to
tied*, fucking brainfarts

name and prove one thing 11 does better compared to 10

Does anyone know how in the everloving god can you force windows to change display numbers?
After I came back from a vacation i plug pc in and now my main display is detected as number 2.
Changing ports on gpu doesn't help, plugging monitors doesn't help, nvidia app/control panel can't do it. For whatever fucking reason it is now display 2 and I can't change that.

>>106357801
You could try an alternative display manager like LittleBigMouse. Also couldn't you just make your usual primary monitor the primary again and not have to worry about this?

>>106357812
>LittleBigMouse
Will check it out.
> make your usual primary monitor the primary again
That's the thing, it is primary monitor but for whatever fucking reason it is set to monitor 2, so i have a mismatch where some programs and games on monitor 1, and some try to use the 4k resolution it has on a 1440p main screen.

>>106330523 (OP)
What are some reasonable ways to reduce the bloat on an old Windows machine? I installed Linux a few times on my old Surface Pro 7 and I was disappointed to find that the pen support was gimped not to mention the camera support is hopeless. What impressed me about Linux though was that my laptop didn't heat up and I didn't hear my fans once while using it. Is it possible to achieve this with Windows 10?

>>106356244
Could be a grounding issue or the port is physically broken.
Most of the time the cable itself is the issue.

>>106352825
W10
Literally everything still comes with DX10 and DX11 exes.
It took 15 fucking years since DX11 released for the first DX11-only game to come out. Developers aren't as retarded as the street shitting currynigger 11shills will have you believe, they actually want their games to sell.

>>106356889
>Could be latency issues?
Might be. LatencyMon is pointing towards nvddmkm. Within 25 minutes of using the system as I normally would the DPC oscillates between 430-593. I went with an older drivers - same story, newer one exacarbated the issue so I rolled back to 580.88.
I'm using realtek audio drivers (6.4.0.2414 from 24/03/2025). I did use Snappy Driver Installer since the one I used from ASUS' website seemed to do nothing except install some unnecessary Sonic Studio bloat (though that could've been windows update that installed).
Also, when I uninstalled the infamous KB5063878 update, it slightly helped in terms of DPC, though it could be snake oil at this point. I even went so far as to change the channel speed distribution can't remember how it's called on my motherboard) on PCI lanes between GPU and SSDs and still - nothing.
I'm wondering whether the front usb port could be at fault here - too much voltage that mobo can't handle perhaps? It has to be something stupid simple because the amount of troubleshooting I went through got me into a corner.
And yet that foobar trick does the job every time.
>specify the audio codec on the hardware side for extra info.
You have me at a bit of disadvantage here. Can I get that info from msinfo32 or in the device manager properties?

>>106358291
Like I said it's happening on my speakers, and headphones hooked up directly to the audio port (front and rear) as welll as through DAC. I'm not sure if it's a broken port in this case. Then again if grounding would've been the issue then software shenanigans would be of little help. At least that's my assumption. Thanks for the input though, appreciate it.

>>106358581
>front usb port
Sorry, I meant panel not a single port. It's got 2x3.0 usb port, mic/audio jack port and Type-C one as well. Now that I mention it I did read somebody had an issue with a Type-C cable that was causing similar audio problems.

>>106358581
Yeah, it's annoying and hard to resolve. Try searching info from some music related forums or even from /mu/, it had audio production related threads. I mean they should know better.
My own issues have always been buzzing and this is due physical issues like bent connector. If your house has shitty electrical work that can cause issues too if your psu and mobo can't regulate voltage but I'm not an expert in this area.

>>106354084
>I-I'm not a cunny addict, s-she's actually 360 years old you see...

The mental gymnastics of retards who enjoy this kind of shit always amazes me.

Where can I find 10 LTSC IoT in different languages? Tried using the english as base but the language packs do not replace everything and it's annoying the fuck out of me

Do I use Rufus to create a bootable Win10 install drive? Does the installation tool have a partition manager so I can wipe and format my storage too?

>>106358203
>What are some reasonable ways to reduce the bloat on an old Windows machine?
Define 'bloat' in your case. If it's a case of "holy fuck why the fuck is the system partition filled that much", run WizTree to analyze the volume and see its sitrep.
And with some general tips: uninstall applications that you don't use (use BCUninstaller so that it could take care of any leftovers a program's own uninstaller couldn't), run cleanmgr, clean %temp% and leftover crashdumps, et cetera et cetera. There's more of that, but these should be common steps for disk space maintenance.
>>106358581
Realtek is a hit or miss, depending on the ALC codec and how it's implemented in your motherboard. I'd try uninstalling the drivers first, and have DDU completely remove whatever was left of the driver
Try forcing windows' generic hd audio driver for the device, see whether the pop-ins still happen (and other potential issues), then you may try installing what Realtek provides in their site (or use the universal UAD driver from pal1000)
Ideally you should run the OEM-purposed driver with specific customizations for the "full experience", in case something doesn't work under the generic drivers, but these can be bloaty at the same time.
>You have me at a bit of disadvantage here. Can I get that info from msinfo32 or in the device manager properties?
IIRC it can be somewhat determined based on the DEV_ part in the device's hardware ids, but I guess your regular HW utilities like AIDA or HWINFO will be more accurate.
>>106359591
Use regular LTSC ISO instead, and convert the edition post-install with a key change (or use the PID.txt trick in \Sources folder). Microsoft's MVS repository only provides the en-US ISO for the IoT variant.
>>106359597
>Do I use Rufus to create a bootable Win10 install drive?
should do the trick
>Does the installation tool have a partition manager so I can wipe and format my storage too?
Windows Setup? - yes

>>106358581
Just a quick update. I mentioned that the problem was happened on DAC too. Well, it turns out that's not the case anymore. Since I only had a Soundblaster G6 on hand and there's no optical port on it I had to use a standard audio jack for speakers. And the problem disappeared. Same for headphones. Then I plugged the speakers to the PC using jack port and lo and behold there's no crackling/popping. Anon >>106359334 inspired me with those bent cables and it turns out the optical cable was twisted and turned behind the furniture.

I'm not opening the champagne just yet, but as it stands - the problem's gone away (for now). I'll keep the updates to a minimum but fingers crossed!

>>106359921
Yeah, I realize it's a lottery with Realtek. I started reading up on them. About those Nvidia drivers. I did use DDU, aye. You can never be too sure.
Thanks for persisting through this saga with me and apologies for cluttering the thread when the solution was (probably) the simplest there could be as occam's razor would suggest.

>>106359963
About those Nvidia drivers
I meant Nvidia and Realtek. Sorry, I've been bashing my head against the wall because of this issue for so long I'm writing gibberish without even realizing it.

>>106356691
why would you have to do that?

>>106359963
Good to know the DAC came to the rescue. There was also some anon from the /pcbg/ general having similar problems (realtek onboard audio stuttering, nvidia gpu driver experiencing DPC issues), and using an external audio interface solved the crackling issue: >>106292172
Come to think of it, having the audio controller (or the audio bus parent device) use the MSI(-X) interrupt model might've alleviated issues with latency a bit, but it's not a guaranteed panacea (and leaning to snake oil at times)

>>106359921
>Define 'bloat'
I just want my computer to not heat up and the fans be loud when I have nothing but a video playing or even just a terminal running WSL. When I first put Windows 10 back on it and the desktop screen loaded I was shocked that the fans were still blaring even though nothing was going on, contrasted to Linux where I could have 3 videos playing and my computer wasn't heating up at all. Just today I opened the task manager and I saw that the compatibility telemetry was hogging 90% of my CPU for a short while for some reason. I tried disabling some startup apps but there weren't many since I just redownloaded windows. Does LTSC or any kind of debloating script or tool fix this?

>>106359921
>Use regular LTSC ISO instead, and convert the edition post-install with a key change (or use the PID.txt trick in \Sources folder). Microsoft's MVS repository only provides the en-US ISO for the IoT variant.
Sweet, thanks bro

>>106359921
Doesn't MAS' hwid automatically convert the edition to IoT? (something I read in fwt but not sure if it's true, hoping you can confirm it)

>>106360685
nta but it does, I can confirm. I installed Enterprise LTSC edition today and MAS converted it to IoT.

>>106360685
Yes, it should be the recommended method for non-English IoT LTSC now: Just install LTSC in your language and activate with HWID

>>106360733
>>106360988
Thanks bwos

>>106360201
>I just want my computer to not heat up and the fans be loud when I have nothing but a video playing or even just a terminal running WSL
I thought you were talking about the surface laptop - to be fair, consumer laptops aren't really famed for their good heat dissipation and efficiency.
and from a quick glance, it looks like tearing down this model just for maintenance cleaning will be a PITA.
>Just today I opened the task manager and I saw that the compatibility telemetry was hogging 90% of my CPU for a short while for some reason.
I couldn't for the love of god remind myself when was the last time DiagTrack and CompatTelRunner were blatantly running during my daily usage, especially in my latest install of windows.
And all I had done with telemetry was enable the telemetry configuration policy and set it to 0 (Though the "level 0" option only affects enterprise-based editions, including Education proper), then enabled most of the recommended configuration options in ShutUp10.
>Does LTSC or any kind of debloating script or tool fix this?
LTSC is basically binary-identical to Enterprise, but as a fixed release instead of rolling, plus without the surface(heh)-level Store/UWP applications (think the "bundled apps" analogy in android distributions, the core UWP apps necessary for the system are still here). It's not really a panacea.
'True' debloating tools that modify your installation image (think Optimize-Offline, MSMG, NTLite, and other tools taking advantage of Windows servicing stack and dism) aren't exactly panacea either, and you might fuck things up when handled improper.
>but there's a paste in the OP regarding debloating that you might want to check out

>>106360021
because it says 10 ltsc ends in 2027. 11 in 2032

PSA: use 10 IoT LTSC until it's end date, meanwhile start optimizing your software to be Linux ready. Thank me in late 2030's

>>106360201
I did the group policy stuff in the OP, disabled windows defender (i had to rename some registry keys to do that) and disabled indexing. Now my PC does nothing when idle as it should

i really dont understand why anyone is saying to go for 10 iot ltsc unless youre willing to go through pain in 2 years. you just get 11, delete some extra bloat, do startallback, and youre golden. theres literally no reason for it. also im old enough to remember everyone freaking the fuck out about windows 10 sucking cock. i think its mostly just people pissed that they need to update their hardware and spend some money

>>106362344
first of all 10 iot ltsc support ends in 2032 and second windows 11 is slower to use even on modern hardware than 10.
disagree? ok prove me wrong of stfu

>>106351916
>On newer hardware w11 will unironically be more responsive than the later w10 builds
there's not a single source that backs up this btw. 10 generally is more responsive even on haswell era hardware than 11 running on modern ryzen

>>106362370
im sure im going to prove you wrong, emotionally invested anon. what does slower mean to you? have you tested 11 iot vs 10 iot? obviously retail 11 sucks. i refuse to believe that there is a noticeable difference between a stripped 11 iot and 10. and if you factor in the peace of mind knowing you dont have to upgrade for minimum a decade, idk. seems pretty clear cut

>>106362412
>im sure im going to prove you wrong
you are not, you have no source to back up your claims. 11 isn't faster than 10, deal with it fag
>have you tested 11 iot vs 10 iot
yes

>>106362431
so did you notice that theyre faster or did you see big number bigger than small number?
>deal with my opinion fag
emotional woman/faggot

>>106362450
>so did you notice that theyre faster or did you see big number bigger than small number?
yes, also did benchmarks. 11 didn't give bigger number compared to 10
>opinion
fact* as you well know since you can't for the life of you provide any proof that would show 11 being better in some way

>>106362494
its ok anon, i know you are just a poor HIV riddled homosexual that is dreading the idea of spending money to update your hardware and dealing with a migration. windows 10 is great! itll definitely get you through 2032. you definitely have no incentive to resist the next msft turd. thanks for being measured, thoughtful and normal in this conversation

>>106362567
you still can't provide source on 11's superiority :)

>>106362589
>source???
reddit is down the hall and to the left. the source is that the license lasts longer, the speeds are negligible different if youre not running a potato and if you know what youre doing

Finally updated to windows 11. No real issues. Everything works fine. Nothing broke. I don't think it's noticeably slower or noticeably faster. If I HAD to choose one, I'd say it's barely slightly faster, but the difference is so small it's hard to tell. The only thing I couldn't stand was the new context menu, which was easy to change with a 2 second google. Feeling a little retarded thinking about how much time I spent REE-ing over being forced to update.

>>106362658
Same here. Pretty solid as far as IoT editions go.

>>106362629
this end of life thing isn't an argument since 10 iot ltsc 21h2 ends in 2032 and 11 24h2 iot ltsc ends in 2034
sissies like you updoot the very second microsoft pushes out new slopware, 2 years between the iot ltsc versions doesn't mean anything

>>106362658
Who knew the people that kept complaining all the time were an incredibly vocal minority?

where to download latest update windows 7 (hacks)? my usually go to link does not update currently.

>>106363240
You can get the last official 7 updates via MAS's TSforge ESU activation now.

>>106363240
Easy mode: Simplix
Hard mode: Use NTLite, slipstream KB3172605, KB4474419 and KB4490628.
Pray to Jesus that you have a PS/2 keyboard laying around.

>>106357772
Window management

huh? thought LTSC was private

>>106363370
Anon it's just Enterprise with no included UWPs and a longer EoL. You do the same shit on Enterprise if you want to disable the telemetry.

>>106363301
>Pray to Jesus that you have a PS/2 keyboard laying around
This sounds fun to me. I'm in.

>>106363394
>Anon it's just Enterprise with no included UWPs and a longer EoL. You do the same shit on Enterprise if you want to disable the telemetry.
damn, doesnt fit my purposes then, meh, fucking microsoft telemtry

>>106363469
It's trivial to disable on any version

>>106360399
you can just install regular LTSC then use MAS to switch to IoT LTSC, same thing you use to activate windows

>>106363477
>It's trivial to disable on any version
spoon fed me please anon

>>106363537
Download ShutUp10 and run its recommended settings, then restart. Easy as pie.

>>106362801
vocal and idiotic

>>106362370
There is an increasing amount of hardware, used or new, that require drivers "designed" only for Windows 11 and have no backwards compatibility with 10. Because "fuck you."
We won't make it to 2032 without recommending dying or otherwise risky hardware just to stick to 10. Senseless absurdity.

>>106363585
Personally the moment I get a new PC with new parts I'll be switching to a fresh IoT LTSC 2024.

>>106363585
I agree. It's amazing how much Windows XP era hardware would be detected and usable in Windows 10, where even in Windows 7 I'd have to hunt down drivers for. Especially audio stuff.

If Microsoft is once again heading down the road of "fuck you, buy something new" then I will stay with 10 or switch to Linux Mint. Simple as.

>>106356010
Microsoft is forcing it as of some updates back, I think at the beginning of this year.
As long as you have realtime scan disabled and "Allow antimalware service to remain running always" also disabled, you are good to go.
Also, "Configure local setting override to turn on realtime protection" being disabled may help, I speculate.

I had the antimalware software disabled and deleted, so updates to it would continuously fail in Windows Update... Or maybe that is why they decided to force it.

>>106363634
ionuttbara's Defender Remover still seems to be the only way to truly disable/remove Defender and a majority rest of the security suite gracefully.

>>106363661
Thanks.

>>106363618
Enterprise IoT literally has lower minimum hardware requirements than w10 tho
>https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise/hardware/system_requirements?tabs=Windows11LTSC

>>106363618
>Especially audio stuff.
Total irrelevance.
This thread is about computers and Windows. Poor cope.

>>106363951
People like to hook up these things called accessories and peripherals to their 'Windows' 'Computers'. I know, I know. Weird huh?

>>106363888
The requirements exist in the first place because of the defaultly on Core Isolation security feature that 8th gen Intel Cores and above can use properly without you noticing anything performance wise. Older CPUs basically emulate it and it feels slower by comparison.
IoT LTSC 2024 doesn't have Core Isolation on by default, so it can run on most any 64-bit system.

>>106330523 (OP)
ai slop

sage and report

I got more (You)s from pretending to hate Windows 11 than expressing my deep seated love for Sophie-chan. :(

>>106363252
>>106363301

there's an easy way that i don't need to do anyhing.

just download the update. waiting. and voila.

that guy probably busy. i hope he will update.

I think i need to test abbodi first in my vm

>>106364189
>t.

>>106364915
>Japanese children/manchildren posting their drawings on Pixiv
Sovl

Someone kill the h1b pajeet who pushed the ssd killing update.

>>106364973
he's the ceo

>>106365056
Sounds like a job for mario

>>106365495
The entire tech industry and pretty much every industry needs a giant flush at this point. That entire part of the world needs a barrage of nukes. Sooner rather than later.

>>106364151
>IoT LTSC 2024
Neither does regular Enterprise IoT, you can still have the regular update cycle on toasters.

why did windows decide to install its bootloader onto a random backup drive instead of the one i told it to install on? i shutter to think what it would have done to my real operating system if i hadn't disabled its drive pre install.

>>106365661
The setup autodetected the ESP from your available drives, and used that for installing its boot manager and loader instead. One EFI partition per drive is expected from the system - spec standards.
Word of notice: make sure you offline any other drives with diskpart, except the target one you're going to install Windows onto and the installation media. (invoke Shift+F10 for the command prompt)
>>106363585
>"designed"
nta, but about that - sometimes drivers declared as "11-only" surprisingly turn out to work on latest 10 as well, or require a simple INF modification to install it from the device manager/pnputil. it's not a general rule nor guaranteed, though.
It all comes to the actual driver files - especially .sys ones - whether they were still compiled with 10 still in mind, whether they include deeper version checks, refusing driver load on unsupported windows releases, to actually utilising any API calls/newer standards implemented in 11 but not in latest 10.

>>106366045
thats really silly. i used that drive to transfer some files and then tried to format it for other uses. needless to say, that windows install is already, after only a few hours this time, gone.

>>106336884
disable windwos sandbox

>>106336989
Not gonna risk dataloss over some update

I need to set up a new pc for my mom. It's got a shitty celeron cpu but it should be enough for what she needs, question is what flavor of windows do I slap on it? Guessing win10 iot ltsc

>>106366373
Yeah I'd just stick IoT LTSC 2021 on it.

>>106366400
Can you change the language on it? I see that the iot version only comes in english, but is that just for the initial install or are you stuck with that language?

>>106366401
Install the version of LTSC that uses your language, then HWID activate it. It'll automatically convert it to IoT.

>>106366407
Neat, thanks

>>106359519
He never claimed he wasn't a cunny addict

>>106330523 (OP)
>IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7
Tried this guide but I'm not sure if it was installed correctly as "winver" still returns Home edition. /get-packages lists enablement package, so it was installed.

>>106367144
Why did you install Home? You put that update over IoT LTSC 2021.

>>106367152
I had Home installed beforehand, /v/ anon suggested to update to IoT LTSC.

>>106367167
To turn Home into LTSC you gotta do some hacky registry edit stuff before quickly going through an IoT LTSC 2021 setup.exe on a mounted ISO. The massgrave site has a guide.
Then after that's all set up, you then use the enablement update to up its version number to 22H2.

>>106366075 (Me)
well there. i disabled every other drive in bios (not straightforward on this bios btw) and got'er did.

If anyone struggles with hardware drivers because the manufacturer has their own image with them and ltsc doesn't have them, powershell has tools to extract drivers from mounted images, either from the one currently in use or from one that's mounted elsewhere.
Just fucked around with a chuwi shitbox for a while to get the wifi working.

>>106367167
>Home
found your problem

>>106367167
>>106367197
retard take
doing hacky bullshit to convert editions that were specifically designed by MS to not be able to convert to each other is just begging to get fucked later on by random problems that no one has ever heard of or ever help you fix

>>106367167
I'm no expert by any means, but I've had my fair share of windows installs. Trust me you don't want to do this kind of version hacking.

My advice, install a clean Enterprise LTSC in whichever language you need. Use HWID activation after which you'll get nice and neat IoT.

Is it possible to do some registry fuckery to "upgrade" my pirated Windows 10 pro into LTSC?

It's either that or I'll have to move permanently to Linux on my gaming rig. I don't want to bother with an entirely fresh install, I'd rather go adopt Linux instead if I have to put in that amount of effort into it.

>>106367834
>i'd rather chop off my genitals than wash them
ok tranny

>>106367834
Yes, there is a way that was already mentioned.

>>106367839
>Friendly windows thread
>Ask genuine question
>Get called a tranny

False advertisement.

I think the OP guide should get an update about Massgrave HWID Activation or at least a mention that now you can just use it to convert 'standard' LTSC edition to IoT witout any putting in any keys manually or resorting to PID.txt method.

>>106367889
It's mentioned on the massgrave site in the LTSC download section.

>>106367783
>>106367797
>>106367827
Yeah it was dumb of me to not check what edition I was installing half a year ago. How things are looking on Windows 11? Is there still a way to achieve fullscreen Metro interface like on Windows 8?

>>106368182
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