Thread 106331004

Are computer testicles any good? Are they better than regular mice?

Yeah, I've used them for the past 15 years. Kensington makes literal garbage, as do Logitech and Elecom.
>Are they better than regular mice?
Now, that depends. Your fingers are naturally less precise than your arm because fine movement is harder than large movement. Button layouts tend to be less ergonomic due to having a big ball taking up 2 of your fingers all the time. The primary benefits are things like less fatigue, lower risk of RSI, and space saving. I wouldn't want to use a trackball for competitive gaming, but for anything else you do on a computer, it's good enough as an input tool.

I hated them in the early 2000's, but I kind of want to get one now since I'm in my late 90s and am concerned about RSI. I was considering the Kensington Expert, which is about $65. Good reviews and that DistroTube fag says it's good.

>>106332583
>Kensington makes literal garbage
Yeah?

>>106332611
This is the one I was interested in, looks comfy: https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Trackball-Mouse-K64325/dp/B00009KH63

>>106332624
Yeah, I've got 2 of them. They're literal junk. Main issue is comically low DPI, makes them unusable without heavy acceleration on modern screens. If you have to buy kensington garbage, you're probably better off with the slimblade. Honestly, if you're happy with cheap chinese junk (which is what kensington is), you're better off getting something like a fucking Adesso T50 or a Nulea M512.

If you want a GOOD trackball in that style, you've got to pay 3x the price and get an L-trac, which comes with its own tradeoffs like only having 3 buttons and having an awkward to use scroll wheel.

i've used this and it's pretty good, especially for work in music production, graphic design, color grading, and even 3d work. it's nice to orbit a camera precisely with just a fingertip. the scrollwheel sucks though. it's loose and needs to be packed with something to flow smoothly.

>>106332684
Hmm. Interesting. Thanks for the input. I believe you, but I have low standards. I'll probably just buy this piece of shit, but use Amazon so I can return it if I'm unhappy. I spent nearly $400 on an ergo keyboard, but the idea of spending over $100 on a mouse really bothers me.

>>106332624
I've been using it for at least seven years and it's mostly been fine. I go have to remove the ball every other week or so to clean the rollers but that takes about ten seconds to complete. Once every two months or so it will act like the rollers are dirty when they're not but removing the ball and putting it back in solves that. I suspect there might be a tiny gouge somewhere in the ball that's hard to see that it gets caught in. But like I said, it's infrequent and this is after at least seven years of use.
I didn't like the palm rest and find the trackball is more natural to use if I rotate it 90 degrees. I had to monkey around with some settings in Windows and Linux to make that work but I suspect most people will find using it as designed to be perfectly fine.

>>106332763
From the looks of it I feel like I'd want to use the bottom left button with my thumb to left-click, and the upper right button with my pinky or ring finger to left click.

>>106332778
ring or pinky to right click*

>>106332611
>I'm in my late 90s
On the one percent chance this isn't horse shit, kudos for actually wanting to be alive and I hope you reach a hundred.
Did you unironically work on shit like vacuum bulb gateways?

>>106332810
I meant 30s, lol

I've used all the memes including m570, CST L-Trac, Kensington Slimblade, Elecom HUGE and Ploopy Adept.

Ploopy is my current and probably the best and actually has a sensor comparable to modern gaming mice. Not sure if the new Slimblade Pro is better then the OG Slimblade but the accuracy and latency wasn't as good as the Ploopy though I did enjoy the ergonomics of the bigger ball and twist scroll. CST was good too but mine had the original solid rollers which often gummed up and were a pain to clean where you had to open the case rather then just pulling the ball out, the later upgraded rimmed rollers are supposed to be better and had less friction.

Elecom HUGE, warning the stock bearings are garbage and has massive friction. modded bearings work better but still not great. I think I just prefer finger trackballs because there's so many different ways to move the ball so your hand practically never gets sore.

Planning on upgrading my Adept with the BTU+bigger ball mod, just need to get access to a 3d printer and order the parts.

>>106332827
The hell kind of name is "Ploopy"?

>>106332875
leafs, not even once.

>>106332892
nta but it is a ridiculous name

>>106332827
I honestly didn't notice much difference between the rollers. The newer ones were probably slightly harder to clean, but being something you only had to do twice a year, it never really bothered me.

Ploopy are still using those crappy mini roller bearings on the adept, right? BTU mod is probably the way to go, but I'm still wary of the BTU mod because the kind of people who promote it look like retards to me, and I feel like you're just introducing more failure points and places for friction to get you, I've been completely unimpressed with all other roller bearing offerings and I can't imagine even fancy BTUs overcoming this.

These days I'm a static bearing convert purely because of gameball, which is the one trackball on the market that I think does them properly. The rest have fucked up retard geometry that doesn't work, which is why the bearing mod meme never pans out. Sure, Elecom has garbage bearings, but swapping them out doesn't help because the problem isn't the bearings. It's where they're placed relative to the ball, and you can't fix the geometry with a swap.

>>106332909
I never got the upgraded bearing for my L-TRAC because last I looked the few companies who sold them either refused or wanted $50 to ship a $15 part international to kangarooland.

The ploopy stock rollers work reasonably alright once broken in though they are loud and vibrate a little bit.

>>106331004 (OP)
I use real testicles for my computer testicles.
>shemale) loves it too when I molest her

I love my fat ass thumb ball so much it's unreal.

>>106331004 (OP)
i like them
but realistically you're gonna want both
i think for young kids its a quick way to get them into pc
my youngest used the trackball at the age of 2 and would just start clicking on things (homepage was letter learning website links with photos of where they were going to etc)

>>106332827
You still need to clean the rollers of the V shaped ones as well, though its never really finger grime that is the root of the problem. Its just hair that eventually gets in there and wraps around the roller shafts. It also seems around this time they upgraded to a different plastic that may be self lubricating for the roller supports.

I wanted to order those open ceramic ball bearing kits that let the fall basically free spin like golden Tee, but it just like you said seems silly to pay 50-60 dollars for them.

>>106335600
Back when I saw those kits they looked laughable, it's literally just a few nuts and a 4mm bolt with a ball bearing on it. I made my own with steel bearings and it was shit, I can't imagine ceramic making it any better.

>>106332778
I use my thumb for the left bottom button, index and middle finger to move the ball, ring finger for upper right (mapped to "back"), and pinky for lower right. I don't have upper left mapped to anything. Also use my ring finger to turn the scroll ring.

If I get one, will post wall women flock to my computer den?

>>106335714
Unlikely, but you might get fat guys in joggers.
>>106335635
I think the hard part about it is, free flow needs a dry bearing, which will be loud and rough if its BB. Grease to smooth it out will slow it down drastically. cant really split the difference with oil since there is no seal or cup to keep it in place so you are stuck with the choice of the two.

>>106335736
I don't know why you think you can't use a sealed bearing in an application like this. The problem with bearings is that they're typically designed for high speeds, not small smooth movements back and forth.

>>106335820
Generally speaking, sealed bearings are going to have more friction especially at this scale and price (IE see RC car bearings that are often either shielded or open race for this reason). The larger ball used on arcade cabinets like Missile Command, or Golden Tee were supported by metal shielded, but not sealed, ball bearings and I wanted to emulate the way it feels. Switching to a heavier ball like a billiard might also be part of the equation.

I love how my coworkers recoil when they want to grab my mouse to do something on my computer as soon as they notice the huge red ball from my slimblade pro. They simply cannot grasp the concept of moving a ball to move the cursor.

I bought one recently, but then I realised that 95% of the time I just use the keyboard's trackball because I'm too lazy to reach for the mouse.

>>106331004 (OP)
I worked with sailors. Uncluttered space can be really scarce on boats. They liked those trackball because they weren't requiring much of that.

In a normal home/office environment, it's probably not that useful. (unless perhaps if you are the kind of poorfag that don't own a desk, and need to work in bed?)

>>106331004 (OP)
Waiting for ProtoArc's EM06, they promised dynamic bearings and hopefully they deliver.

>>106332684
I much prefer the Expert over the SlimBlade. The Expert is my daily at the office, the SlimBlade I have at home. The SlimBlade squeaks and doesn't work well.

>>106337171
It's just nicer to use for office and work tasks. Only for gaming do I use a regular mouse.

>>106336962
>the keyboard's trackball
hwut

>>106331004 (OP)
yes
yes

>>106332583
>Your fingers are naturally less precise than your arm
I used something like picrel back in some 90s laptop with the heel of the palm. Feels like the natural position and motion to me. Stand alone finger trackballs look weird.

>>106331004 (OP)
>>106332624
i tried this, gimmick
they get clogged with shit its like the old ball mouses you have to clean

some benefits though
>can spin it really fast and do retarded 360s in games which is funny to others
>you can click independantly of moving the cursor
this is useful for being extremely accurate while drawing, even just clicking a standard mouse can slightly move your cursors position

for ergonomics something like >>106336962
would be good, split keyboard with built in ballsack

>>106343809
>even just clicking a standard mouse can slightly move your cursors position
Maybe with a stupid ultralight gaymen mouse or on really low friction surface. Never had that issue.

>>106343809
>they get clogged with shit its like the old ball mouses you have to clean
Yes, this does happen and if you eat at your computer or have dirty hands, the cleaning frequency will increase. But unlike the old mice, the trackball takes only a few seconds to clean. I've never had to scrap debris off the roller in a trackball like I had to with a mechanical mouse.

>>106332822
Computer Testicle user is even more prone to rsi because his arm is static and the repetitive movement revolves around his wrist and couple of fingers.
If you actually bothered how to use mouse - using a big mouse pad (not your typical toilet paper size) and low mouse sensitivity along with learning how to use your arm to move mouse you would be much better off.
Now while you are at it corrent your posture and desktop height too and keep at least 1 meter distance to your screen.

Most people are just ignorant retards and then they are going to look for some magical cure from pills or some trash plastic gimmicks like computer testicles.

>>106344997
Sorry my engl;is is typo ridden i'm distracted and ANGRY.

>>106342835
It's a Charybdis. Apparently they don't sell that model anymore, just the MK2.
At least the MK1 (the one that I posted in >>106336962 ) is pretty good. The only problem is that the pulleys inside the trackball often gets too greasy, even if I wash my hands before using it. I try to clean it, but it is not that easy even if you have the right tools. That's the only negative aspect. Not sure if they changed that on the MK2 though.

>>106331004 (OP)
>computer testicles
not heard that one before, will use that name from now on

>>106340745
I actually prefer the trackball for all input tasks including games. I just alternate between a regular mouse and the trackball for comfort and hopes to reduce the risk of RSI's