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Anonymous No.106342166 >>106342283 >>106342623 >>106342910 >>106342994 >>106343030 >>106343033 >>106344353 >>106344581 >>106344597 >>106345226 >>106347526
inmutable distro... yes (sex) or no?
>rpm-ostree requires system reboot after every installation because it just need to, thanks!
Anonymous No.106342283 >>106344544
>>106342166 (OP)
>solving a problem that doesn't exist
No
Anonymous No.106342623 >>106343030 >>106344581
>>106342166 (OP)
>mutable distro
Anonymous No.106342645
arisu..
Anonymous No.106342910
>>106342166 (OP)

it is basically same dance routine in every song that has 3 min 30 secs lenght
Anonymous No.106342925
Momoka won.
Arisu lost.
Anonymous No.106342994 >>106343006 >>106343030 >>106344544 >>106344575 >>106344581
>>106342166 (OP)
I still don't get why people fall for the immutable distro meme
Anonymous No.106343006 >>106344544 >>106344567
>>106342994
Maybe a rebellion against muh updoots? Idk.
Anonymous No.106343030 >>106344567 >>106344581
>>106342166 (OP)
>>106342623
>>106342994
Sex

Also, usecase for immutability in a desktop system? None. Especially in a UNIX system.
Anonymous No.106343033 >>106344544
>>106342166 (OP)
>OS rollback without affecting user data (/usr but not /etc, /var) via libostree
isn't that the same as every other package manager?
Anonymous No.106344353 >>106344544 >>106344567
>>106342166 (OP)
I can't think of a specific usecase in which ostree would be advantageous save a kiosked environment for tards. If you have your system on lvm/brtfs there are akready snapshots for fixing fuckups.
Anonymous No.106344544 >>106344731 >>106346376 >>106346976
>>106342283
>>106342994
>>106343006
>>106343033
>>106344353
In Silverblue you are not supposed to install anything into the base OS anyway. The default Silverblue install is significantly smaller than the same Arch install. You install software using local package managers, inside containers (toolbox gives transparent containers which have everything you want mounted including GPU and devices) or with flatpak. This significantly increases security. For the updates. On other Linux distros if you update the kernel or any driver you have to reboot if a new application wants to use that updated driver (mismatch). On Silverblue updates happen transparently. You never notice them but if you reboot you are just magically always on the newest version (without any update time either mind you).


My guess is that ublue is around 10 years ahead of everyone else right now. There is a reason Ublue/Silverblue are seeing absurd install numbers for a "niche" distro.

The advantages of immu
Anonymous No.106344567 >>106344731 >>106346029
>>106343030
>>106343006
>>106344353
let me guess you guys think rust is a psyop
Anonymous No.106344575
>>106342994
Lots of benefits, no disadvantages.
Anonymous No.106344581
>>106342166 (OP)
>>106342623
>>106342994
>>106343030
kys pedo
Anonymous No.106344597 >>106344671 >>106344684
>>106342166 (OP)
I'm on Fedora Silverblue as my main OS for years, and I just update it once a month, never had any issues with it whatsoever.
Just remove the preinstalled cucked version of Firefox and you're good for life.
Also stop shilling immutable distros, I don't want it to go mainstream and attract a bunch of redditors.
Anonymous No.106344671
>>106344597
>Also stop shilling immutable distros, I don't want it to go mainstream and attract a bunch of redditors.
Bazzite alone has millions of pulls.
Anonymous No.106344684
>>106344597
>Just remove the preinstalled cucked version of Firefox and you're good for life.
the preinstalled ff version has performance tweaks and is the only firefox version to support hw video decoding on nvidia
Anonymous No.106344687 >>106344695 >>106344695
nixos does not have this problem. nixos-rebuild switch usually works.
Anonymous No.106344695
>>106344687
What problem?
>>106344687
>nixos-rebuild switch usually works
Yea and in Silverblue you literally never have to "rebuild" or "update" or anything. You just turn off your computer and the next time you boot you are updated with no delay or anything.
Anonymous No.106344731 >>106344978 >>106345470
>>106344544
The security angle i can get, the update transparency less. No matter how safe they are implemented in my book updates should never get completely automatized.

>>106344567
>not liking something on paper makes you a schizo
Just fuck off already
Anonymous No.106344978 >>106345024
>>106344731
pretty sure you can disable auto updates
Anonymous No.106345024 >>106345058 >>106345201
>>106344978
Can you do per package updates and pinning versions as well?
Anonymous No.106345058 >>106345097
>>106345024
depends on the distro. Silverblue uses flatpaks for userspace gui software. So you can do anything you can with flatpaks.
As for rpm-ostree, I don't have experience in, I don't really use silverblue, or any other immutable distro for that matter, just like that they exist 'cause they add variety and more options to the linux desktop.
Anonymous No.106345097
>>106345058
Well, i don't like it (for me) but i don't hate it as well, in fact fedora budgie immutable is on top of my picks for a linux distro i could install for my parents/tech impaired friends.
Anonymous No.106345115
I wonder how long it will take them to finish replacing rpm-ostree with bootc.
Anonymous No.106345201 >>106345284 >>106345704
>>106345024
It clearly is not for you if you enjoy littering your OS with arbitrary packages. The expectation for Silverblue is that you will never install anything on the base OS. I have been running Silverblue for around 3 years now and I have had 1 single layered package.
Anonymous No.106345226
>>106342166 (OP)
imoutoable?
Anonymous No.106345284
>>106345201
>you enjoy littering your OS with arbitrary packages
I don't, but when i do i don't like having convoluted structures in place right on my way.
Anonymous No.106345470 >>106345574
>>106344731
not a schizo. it just shows youre a marketing autist who falls for whoever spams the most on /g/ regardless of the inherent technical value
Anonymous No.106345574 >>106345670
>>106345470
>if you don't like the same things i like you're falling for alleged board propaganda
Again, fuck off already.
Anonymous No.106345670 >>106345699
>>106345574
>i dont like rust and fedora bc pol told me liberal people use it
>i wont check for myself though since i do not have the technical capabilities i will just trust pol
>hahaha u schizo
Anonymous No.106345699 >>106345842
>>106345670
this but unironically
Anonymous No.106345704
>>106345201
Cool man. We get it, but did you bother to bring anybody along for the ride?
Anonymous No.106345842
>>106345699
exactly. since you understand you are on the level of a normie consumer but want to keep your imagination up your best bet is to listen to anyone (poor and unemployed) who spams the most on g and pol. muh rust bad bc daddy elon told liberals are bad
Anonymous No.106346029
>>106344567
Completely irrelevant reply to any of the posts you quoted
Anonymous No.106346177 >>106346663 >>106346671 >>106347472
why isnt there an official /g/ immutable distro based on ublue
Anonymous No.106346376
>>106344544
we know what it is. Flatpaks are shit and distrobox/toolbox introduces a lot of issues. They have their time and place but a whole OS that forces the user to use them is nonsense.
Anonymous No.106346663
>>106346177
because not all of us use 60% mechanical keyboards while wearing frilly kneesocks
Anonymous No.106346671
>>106346177
you want a distro that comes with CP?
Anonymous No.106346976
>>106344544
It doesn't actually improve security. If you install software in user modifiable directories and setup PATH etc for these then you make your system vulnerable to malware. This is even true for flatpak, since a lot of the most popular flatpaks require HOME read/write access to function.
Anonymous No.106347472
>>106346177
>then:
>A fork of Gentoo with its own Binhost, customized fvwm, wallpapers, package optimizations
>now:
>a fork of a fork of fedora based on corpo hype for chromebooks
Rapeape delete this fucking board
Anonymous No.106347526
>>106342166 (OP)
Rpm-ostree should be the last resort of installing application
You have:
Flatpak
Pip
Brew
Podman
Distrobox
Rpm-ostree