Thread 106344746

>/g/ makes a 16th album
Here we are making the sequel to the first /g/ album.
Theme: Loosely technology themed
Title: Shitposting Fundamentals (2nd edition)
Deadline: 30th of August, 11:00 UTC
Listening party: 31st of August, 21:00 UTC
First album link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Qe6rnW850

>/g/ makes a 17th album
Theme: [Accepting suggestions]

>Song submission rules/guidelines
Upload the file somewhere, preferably in a lossless format, and post the link here. If you want to update your track, make a new post.
Include the song title in the post, and make it clear that your song is a submission for the album.
Optionally you may include cover art for your track, but please confirm that the image in your post is the cover art or it won't be included.
You may not use your real artist name.
Songs that contain anything against YouTube's policies won't be uploaded on YT, but will still be added to the album.
By default, tracks will be normalised to -14 LUFS (integrated loudness) in the release. You may specify a lower loudness for your track.
Generative AI is banned. This includes AI generated stems, samples, and effects. "AI" includes all neural network-based models and not hard-coded automation/procedural generation.

>Where can I hear the previous albums?
https://rentry.org/dmpalbums (outdated)
https://www.youtube.com/@MusicOf4chan

>Wikis
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://mu-sic-production.fandom.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki

Previous: >>106333849

where can i learn mixing and mastering for EDM?

>>106345636
anything goes, EDM is slop
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NGY_DMtvWjQ

>>106345661
sorry, how do i mix and master slop? i know nothing

>>106345802
Is there nothing for that in the dmpdoc?
>https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
I see music theory stuff but it may need more resources for mixing/mastering.

>>106345802
at the basic level, it's about tonal balance (EQ) and to reach a similar loudness as other EDM tracks (using compressors, limiters and saturation) while avoiding unpleasant distortion or harshness. mono compatibility is important especially for dance club music but the music should be understandable without excessive phase cancellation also for people who listen on mono bluetooth speakers, an airpod in one ear etc. a common advice is to have mono bass like in that video he has a cutoff frequency of 100hz where below it the mix becomes mono so even if you're playing on stereo speakers, each speaker plays the same sound in the bass/subbass frequenciess. there is also the aspect of analog coloration but this is largely ignored in EDM because a shocking amount of people are unaware of how the sausage is made behind the scenes outside of professional pop, rock and hiphop producers and engineers. so the classic EDM tracks became huge hits with relatively little effort because of the analog gear that was used but people think it's just the talent of the artist/songwriter/producer.

>>106345892
>sausage

Renoise sexo

6 hours left to vote on the album theme
https://strawpoll.com/LVyK297XdZ0

>>106345892
edm is for mongoloids, true connoisseurs will prefer intricate high dynamic range stereo sound. Anything less is musiclet territory and is not worth even mentioning here

>>106346599
>muh DEInamic range
kamala lost, liberal

>>106346405
more like resignal

>>106348028
>resignal
?

Idea, maybe for an album but maybe just a competition: mashups of previous /dmp/ tracks. The more tracks you can coherently mash together, the more points you get

>>106346542
pirate idm music in the style of aphex twin?

>>106348594
signal
noise
sorry

wakey wakey /dmp/

Album theme voting round 2
https://strawpoll.com/PbZqb4Y2KyN
^^^^^^
>in the style of aphex twin
>idm
>pirate music

>>106345892
good job on telling the anon nothing.

>>106345892
nigga what

bump

how many different EQs do you use and why

>>106360835
whatever makes it sound cool

>>106345636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV8ZDHMKHSQ

whats the best free tracker?

>>106362648
milkytracker still works openmpt almost works

>>106362648
sunvox

Is syntorial still the best tutorial for synths?

https://voca.ro/18HOIosDphzh keep me in your heart

>>106364506
Yes.

racking my brain trying to reverse engineer a few sounds in a track and the annoying thing is 2/3 of them may very well be samples and I'm trying to reinvent the wheel for nothing

>>106365858
If they're synthesized sounds it doesn't really matter if they were made by the song's producer, by another producer whom they sampled, by a hired sound designer sitting next to him in the studio, or by anyone else. Someone made them and if you're trying to get good at producing music (rather than producing this one song) it's in your interest to try and remake them regardless of who the author is.

>>106365858
Post track

i just want to play my piano through my computer via usb but all browser based virtual pianos are fucking trash
anyone know a good solution for me?

>>106365858
>>106365971
noob here how can you remake sounds if they might have recorded them using random specific instruments and objects they had on hand that you don't have? or do you just try to get close to it?

>>106366329
Recorded sounds are much harder to recreate digitally, but you can still get pretty close sometimes depending on how much processing there is on top of them to mask the source, and how close you can get to that source with a sample of your own.
It's not really a song sound design job but more like a movie foley sound design job, where you use whatever you have on hand to make the sound of the thing on screen, rather than recording the actual thing (and yeah for them it just needs to be believable and not necessarily accurate to a specific recording, but you get the idea).

>>106366383
how hard is it to get into this? did you study audio engineering? i'm a 30 year old geriatric wondering if i should try or not.

>>106366432
Just watching sound design tutorials and experimenting a lot with all the different things you can do in sound design (this is key, as it gives you that "feel" for what everything does and it helps you get an idea of what could have been used in a sound you hear).
I got a quarter of the way through Syntorial 1 years ago, and even if I was already experienced in sound design, I still found it good. It's a pretty systematic way of going through the aforementioned process, which is an excellent starting point. Highly recommend it (it's on rutracker).

>wondering if i should try or not.
It's not that difficult. The answer mostly depends on your goals.
What are you going to use your sound design skills for?

>>106366488
thanks anon i will look into that
i just want to make my own music

>>106366494
What type of music?
As a hobby, as a producer for hire, or as your own act?

>>106366507
as a hobby i suppose. don't know the type yet (i like many different genres and artists), whatever i can come up, with which i why i want to get into sound design to see if i can find my own sounds and feel. i don't know if it's ever going to happen, i assume it won't, but i want to take steps anyway.

Despite only making up only 13% of a mix, hi-hats are responsible for 50% of the pacing in electronic music.
Really makes you think, doesn't it.

>>106367817
counterpoint

>>106367862
Yes, counterpoint. Very good

>>106367717
if you mean nigger music then sure, DO NOT generalise electronic music, cunt.

>>106367862
>>106367969
could you explain what you mean to me?
>the technique of setting, writing, or playing a melody or melodies in conjunction with another

where can i find discussion about VST piracy?

>>106367991
The main ones I know
https://audiosex.pro/
https://audionews.org/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Piracy/
https://boards.4chan.org/g/dmp
https://boards.4chan.org/mu/prod

>>106367972
*ahem*

>>106367989
learn how to do that

>>106368596
i'm trying to identify what it is in that track

thank you teamvr for 100 timebombed serum 2 releases

>>106368573
what a retard you don't even understand what makes his tracks sound energized

>>106368674
yeah not sure what they mean either

>>106367991
ngmi

>>106368835
sounds like someone can't handle the truth and has to resort to name calling.
That's ok, I don't blame you, you just can't help yourself.

>>106370071
wow what a shitty way to say "I was wrong"

>>106370122
how full of yourself can you be? what do you mean what makes his tracks sound energized? why can't you find an audience if you have the same understanding as aphex twin?

>>106370184
why are you changing subject? you were claiming something niggerish about hi-hats when it's only small part of many layers in his music. If you at least posted someone else I wold have ignored your stupidity but NO you post Rich and expect people to agree with you? lol what a retard

>>106370213
is the hi hat niggerlicious or is it divine intellect

>>106370498
the fact that most post 2010s edm and ""hip-hop"" music relies on hi-hats to convey """rhythm""" should answer your question

>>106369034
>>106368674
>>106367817
i guess its meant for the 2 parralel basslines that are playing at the same time in some parts, thus creating a counterpoint
also any general feedback is welcome

>>106345892
>top classic dub dancehall style music
>bottom dubSTEP

idk man maybe its just me but I can dance better when I don't suffer from brain aneurysm

>>106345892
>top classic dub dancehall style music
>bottom dubSTEP

idk man maybe its just me but I can dance better when I don't suffer from brain aneurysm

>>106370559
>>106369034
>>106367989
I was saying your track has no cohesion, each instrument has nothing to do with each other instrument apart from being in the same key and tempo. So even when it's just the pads and bass line it's really grating to listen to when they're both just drifting off on their own instead of working together, so when the melody comes in it sounds really overbearing really quick even though it's just three elements.
Learn how to make them work as one unit, counterpoint is a good starting point for that.

>>106370213
>>106368835
>>106370538
tf are you on about? 10 out of the 13 ambient works tracks heavily rely on hi hats for pacing. Either you're trolling, or can't take a joke. Where do you think "nigger music" got the idea for using cymbals like that in the first place?

>>106371280
have you even listened to that album? I never heard such retardation in my life lol

First you got called out for being a retard who had the brilliant idea to make nigger crime joke coincide with "musical trends" which coincidentally is true when it comes to the modern 2020s edm slop and then having all the artists in the world to chose from as an example posted the WORST example of all musicians imaginable and now you keep digging your grave by saying that one of the most popular and mellow albums that normies remotely know from aphex is hit-hat heavy? are you fucked in the head a bit?

You must be a gen z there is no other way to be this clueless

>>106371415
also rhythmically speaking what makes your body move is the bass drum and the snare has a satisfying wrap up to each bar, hi-hats just makes sound richer by covering the high frequencies and provide extra variety to the beat

>>106366036
Was focusing on the this electro house drop (Planet Sick by Far Too Loud)

https://vocaroo.com/179Axj2jWTKW

I think a lot are just acid type sounds, got close enough on the sounds at the very start of the 1st and 2nd measure
it's really the gurgle bass I have no idea about, even with Serum 2 and brostep sound packs
it is rising in pitch? is it just cutoff/wavetable automation?

reminds me of a Slugz which has a lot of unique sounds like that
https://youtu.be/gxIhFwhqp_w?t=87

>>106371691
and also since trap has become so trendy it perfectly coincides with stoner/drug culture because when you are zoned out on either illegal or prescription drugs the sharp hi-hats keep your rotten zoomer brain awake (paired with the absurd compression)

was anyone there in 2010 listening to 128kps dubstep on youtube when we really only had the gritty stuff before a the more melodic brostep?

I got a WIP going for that vibe

https://vocaroo.com/1kGKG2mS33z3

>>106372851
Only the loser autist engineers/CS students were playing that garbage in my university. Sounds awful

>>106372851
feels too disjointed

I just ordered a pair of AKG K240 to supplement my HD6XX. Sometimes I think my mixes sound too thin because the HD6XX has a big warm bottom. It's hard to hear what's going on with that in the way. So, I'm hoping the AKG can give me a sort of NS10 perspective, even though I have KALI 6-inch speakers and some vintage Auratones.

>>106371691
>>106371415
Apart from the fact that one of the anons you were arguing with wasn't even me, I wasn't called out by anyone or for anything, you're just name calling and pretending like you made some sort of point. Reminds me of a certain argumentative tactic employed by a certain kind of people with a certain kind of skin complexion...
Melanin enriched chimp-outs aside though, Ironically most modern edm slop doesn't use a lot of hi hats, if any at all, because it mostly relies on lazily putting everything under heavy side chain compression or a bass with a fast filter envelope. Doesn't matter though, because what I said still holds up regardless of this juxtaposition. You can either admit you were wrong and apologize, or continue to be butthurt by a simple observation and crash out much like the basketball americans you keep trying to distance yourself from, though I have a feeling it will be the latter for you.
Not to mention that I don't even classify trap as electronic music, kek.

>>106375747
yeah i looked it up and there is some white people EDM stuff that's adjacent to dubstep and skrillex was into it some 10 years ago but although it's called trap it's kind of a different thing altogether than the stereotypical hip hop trap beat that producers would think of

>>106367717
THIS is little joke is what anon was so up in arms about?
...the absolute fucking state of /dmp/

>>106372851
The world does not need more of this crap. Please focus on recreating/making something better.

>>106364610
Not one reply. The absolute state of this place. If it was trance or dubstep then maybe it’d gain traction.

>>106375971
XD

You have to elicit discussion - ask for feedback, a review, an opinion
I was asking about any nostalgia people might have had for shitty 2010's dubstep when it was new, since it was one of those 'you had to be there' kinda things

while some people scoffed at their classmates for listening to it, they were probably having fun with something new instead of solely listening to the same tired and solved genres of music

and while some people think the world doesn't need anymore of it (probably true), the same goes for lots of genres of music: screamo, metal, mumble rap and people are still making plenty of that - way more than old school dubstep, though I probably shouldn't have bothered sharing something so niche and nostalgia driven *shrugs*

>>106372851
>>>/mu/127513069

>>106375971
>>106364610
What do you want us to say? Do you want people to glaze you and give you praise? You clearly know what you're doing and thus 99% of /dmp/ would be eliminated from giving you useful advice by default.
The only thing that sounds weird is how your mono and stereo signals seem to be living in an apartheid state and there's not much to bridge the gap, especially in the drop.

>>106376095
XDDDDD
>comfy 2012

see, at least one other boomer was there listening to the same crap as me back then!

>>106375747
it's like talking to a fucking wall for real, your stupidity has no bounds and all that text for essentially says nothing.

>>106376833
Good one esl-fag, you really got me with that one. Especially considering the fact it is (you) who hasn't brought up a single good counterpoint why it is you got so butthurt by my joke, except going "nuh-uh, you're retarded" and bringing up black people unprompted.

>>106377265
what fucking counter point you idiot? I already said everything there is to say now you talk random shit to burry your blunder

>tries to make a shitty joke claiming hi-hats this and that
>gets called out
>ACTHUALLY most modern edm slop doesn't use a lot of hi hats

I mean what kind of shizo shit is that?

the real crime of ai is letting a lot of unfunny people with bad taste churn out terrible content

>>106377890
>>106377914
>said everything there is to say
Which is nothing? Kek.
You didn't call anyone out, you just said "nigger music" has a lot of hi hats. And that's it. I'm sorry that your reading comprehension skills are below that of a 5th grader and that you can't take a simple joke without chimping out (kinda like those niggers you keep talking about if you think about it).

chopped ahh thread

>>106378746
I clearly said not to generalise electronic music to which you picked the worst artist to generalise and then proceeded to non-stop back pedal like the faggot you are

>>106376124
thats wrong lowell

>>106381504
fuk yea

>>106378912
music production a frustrating topic to "discuss" because you generally need elite-level skills or an army of professional producers, songwriters, marketers etc to succeed. but what you get is a lot of drooling retard dunning-krugers who sorely underestimate the amount of technical sophistication that goes into professional productions and people who are unwilling and unable to invest in hardware especially the more nuanced tools like outboard compressors and EQs which the average amateur armchair producer thinks don't sound any better than plugins.

>>106384875
only need a daw and plugins these days
simple as

Posting this here in case any anons are willing/able to help, even if at a cost of me paying them:

>>106373565
>>106374196
>>106376022

>>106384875
we got by okay before you shat up the thread. many people have left because you're so repetitive

did piss guy get sepsis?

>>106384948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYx94UsdAWA

>>106377967
>>106381504
why say nothing about what youre linking

anyone have a channel with instrumentals on it?

>>106386714
the first is a low effort AI slop shitpost, its purpose is to annoy people so it's best to get people to click on it without knowing what it is and the jokes aren't as funny if you have to explain them. a couple of anons were sperging about hi-hats so this song uses a lot of hi-hat rolls. the line about "extremely painful" and "big girl for you" is a baneposting meme reference like in >>106354985.

>>106380086
I didn't backpedal anything, esl fag and if you didn't have the reading comprehension of a melanin enriched american, that you desperately try to distance yourself from, you would understand that.
Sorry that I interrupted you from sucking off your favorite artist, but if you can't handle a simple observation without chimping out, then that's your problem.

I've been listening to my own shitty patch where some resonant filters gets their frequssy sweeped by a random lfo to produce overtones for several hours now. I would like to expend upon that I use it in a musical context. What do

>>106388064
>frequssy
Chair. No due process. Chair straight away.

new album theme: frequssy

>>106390645
I'm calling the police

Album theme vote - final round
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVbEmrn3
^^^^^^
>in the style of aphex twin
>pirate music

>>106385161
Alexa play Frank Zappa - Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?

>>106392038
if pirate music wins the title will br something stufod like shiver me timbres so everyone make sure you vote for the ither one

>>106393258
I wanted to do the Azumanga OST...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PNDxUfuEkik
why is he allowed to use so much gear? the narrative is that he used nothing but fruity loops for his biggest hits but how certain are you about that? and what about mixing and mastering?

>>106392180
according to toxic amateur logic, frank zappa was a talentless hack because he used gear

>>106393471
if idm and aphex twin didn't get samefagged then there would've been a chance

there are anons who believe that the beatles could make it big starting from scratch with nothing but a focusrite scarlett interface and a couple of microphones, like come on are you underage children or third worlders like how can you be this far from reality. the beatles are like the posterchild of modern pop production and even now in 2025 the top tier producers use mic pres and compressors that are based on what the beatles used which the finest studio engineers developed at that time. and greg wells acknowledged that a $7400 atomic clock was greatly beneficial for his sound like they live on a different planet on what kind of technology they use compared to babby tier anons with their DAW stock plugins that even third worlders have access to but there aren't many self-made artists that make it big despite this easy access to software tools because the music simply doesn't have that special sauce to it.

not reading that

>>106394482
i accept your concession

>>106394491
mirror mirror on the wall, who's the skibidiest of them all?

idk m80s if mozart and beethoven were so successful because of anal log warmth even thought they had computers maybe we could learn by thier example

>>106395325
fucking kill yourself retard, they had real instruments of the highest quality with highly trained professionals playing them, your VSTis aren't the same quality as what they had

>>106395383
what difference does that make the important thing isnt the instruments its the neve mixing consoles and 1176es and thats what they obviously used

>>106395427
audiophile classicaltards hold vinyl records in the highest regard, it's just a pretentious ideal that people say they want the "natural" sound, the recordings are highly colored and in a blind listening test where they were rating different speakers or w/e they pulled a prank with real instrument players scoring the lowest

>>106395494
if they were serious theyd put a 1176 on the input and the output of the record player

>>106395554
1176 is mostly used on single tracks and not on the master bus and it's not the listeners job to wrestle with the recording, even before the beatles they had people in lab coats working out how to make the music sound good on people's shitty AM radio systems

>>106395842
listen son you definitely underestimate the qualities of the 1176, even a basic daw like mario paint can benefit from it, what you have to do is, well as you know it uses mouse controls, through the snes connector so what you have to do is just splice a couple of them into the control wites, one channel per wire, obv hust the first four and then the seventh is ground, as a smart person you inow the pinouts already ofc but other anons need to be told this, try it someitme

>>106362648
Furnace.

>>106362648
Seconding on Milkytracker.

LOL at my filters btw.

>>106393841
His 80s work and at the end of his career was absolute ass because of digital synths desu. More gear and limitless use of computers/digital made him a worse musician than just an SG with a fuzzbox and envelope filter

>>106397033
he should have stuck to petting reporters

>>106384875
pyw

>>106398464
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1755318991496978.mp4

1176

>>106344746 (OP)
Literally what's the appeal of reonise if you have a piano roll? Trackers look way better than piano rolls: you can see 5 tracks going on at once and see how they interact with each other. You can't do that with piano roll without stacking, and musical sheet has the page blow up.

>>106396331
filter is a good idea got some other words you could add but if you already have any you wont see my list lol

dunning-kruger
lemon juice
bank robber
max martin
kill yourself retard
mental gymnastics
shakira - hips don't lie
the boomer
millions of streams
billions of streams
you're kidding yourselves
serban ghenea

>>106401970
>millions
>billions
make it one rule write [mb] its a regex pal

would putting a 1176 on my lyricist get the song finished faster im willing to try anything this is embarassing

>>106400037
I rarely look at my music, I listen to it. Of course my nu-MPC has a piano roll but it's pokey and fiddly. I actually find it fastest to edit things by using the MIDI event list if I find I want to change just a note. Everything else is slower, even trackers as you may puzzle over how to cram the dynamics you want into the two effects you're given. If you can.

How do I find some torrents for vsts?

>>106405954
thepiratebay.org

>>106405954
audioz.download

Everyone is expecting Taylor Swift to do the half time show now she's engaged... Maybe Armin would let her come on for a couple songs or something. She could be a decent trance vocalist, maybe.

>>106393471
looks like best you can do is one piece ost

All my niggas hate MOCHA

>>106344746 (OP)
What's the state of FOSS DAWs so far?

>>106410515
Same as the state of FOSS anything.

>>106410553
So like Blender, or like abandoned GitHub dotfiles repo?

>>106407516
do they even have torrents? all i can find there is rars split into 50 parts on some shit hosting service

is it legitimately possible to produce music without constant headaches on linux? i'm thinking of going the renoise and/or bitwig or reaper route. is the jack/alsa shit shit? how is midi implementation?

>>106410798
Like GitHub dotfile repos that should've been abandoned years ago but for some unknown reason haven't.

>>106410798
theyre the same picture

>>106411166
>jack/alsa
all pipewire now

>>106410798
Blender, Krita, and Inkscape are the exceptions. DAWs are still toilet tier

is it possible to run video in reaper on linux? i get audio post work from time to time and it's really the last bastion preventing me from jumping ship from windows

THE DEADLINE WILL NOW BE TOMORROW, FRIDAY, AT 10:00 AM GREENWICH MERIDIAN TIME!!! IF YOU ARE SUBMITTING A SONG AND MISSED THIS NEW DEADLINE THEN THE ALBUM RELEASE/LISTENING PARTY WILL BE DELAYED UNTIL MONDAY. ALSO THE WEBSITE WILL BE OPENED TOMORROW INCLUDING THE IMAGEBOARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

THE LISTENING PARTY WILL OCCUR AT MIDNIGHT UTC, EITHER ON SUNDAY OR MONDAY, DEPENDENT ON WHETHER THERE ARE ANY MORE SUBMISSIONS. WE WILL KNOW FOR SURE IN ONE DAY.