Thread 106350977

>>106284822

Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet + the TrackPoint
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

Model generations:
>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42
>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)
>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)
>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)
>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)
>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)
>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)

BIOS replacement:
https://coreboot.org/downloads.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/
https://canoeboot.org/docs/install/

Additional resources:
https://dankpads.com/tpg/
https://biosimage.booru.org
https://1vyra.in

Patches:
https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patches
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

Chat:
##ibmthinkpad on libera
#/tpg/ on rizon

>>106350977 (OP)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Saten looks better anyways.......

>>106350997
>Saten looks better anyways
okay, but where's her thinkpad?

>>106350977 (OP)
sex with uihara

those Surface Laptop 4 laptops on ebay looks much better than the thinkpads. also much cheaper.

what am I mising here?

>>106351432
ARM

>x13 gen 2
>Battery 92% health
>Fast startup off
>Charge battery to full
>If I leave it off and unplugged for a couple days the battery will be almost dead when I turn it back on
Wtf chinkovo spyware is killing my battery even with the computer completely off???

>>106350977 (OP)
Bleached raw by BWC

>>106350977 (OP)
A Man.

>>106351048
Is that a T series ThinkPad?

>>106353297
seems like a T14 G2 >>106351048 >>106350977 (OP)

>>106352395
I had a same problem on the same generation of Ideapad with ryzen 5. then I ditched windows and the battery issue never appeared again

>>106351602
No HX laptops tho.
Dunno how long my MSI GE78 will last itself with its i7-13900HX.

Toying with a T14s Gen 1. thing isn't so bad, keyboard feels better than the damn Pixelbook, but i got keys that don't work sporadically.
Has anyone rinsed/subermerged keyboards built after 2015? I know T420 works, but this backlit shit?

>>106351432
ports, touchpad buttons, the nipple, upgradable ram. Even replacing the SSD is real pain in the ass for Surface

>>106356346
I know but I'll only really care for that if I plan to keep it for 10 years

I can get a £225 surface 4 laptop then 4 years down the line get an even better laptop for a similar price

also whats up with those 45% NTSC displays lenovo keeps putting out

do you have a list of some newer still produced laptops with a trackpoint? preferably a good one like the thinkpads do. or is the best option t480?

>>106356405
>ports, touchpad buttons, the nipple
>I know but I'll only really care for that if I plan to keep it for 10 years
what

>>106350977 (OP)
Is this a boy??? i learning new things about /tpg/ every time i visit xD

>>106358116
>Is this a boy
fuck no, she's a real female cosplayer/model

>>106357704
I just realized HP got rid of them

>>106350977 (OP)
Looking to switch from 2020 Macbook pro. From what I can tell the X1 Carbon Gen 9 has what I'm looking for for about $350.
I'm looking for battery life, >=1080p screen, thin bezels, good keyboard, and all the other things a man wants in a laptop.
Are there any better options than something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/286775628561 but with more storage? Is there a better bang for buck thinkpad?

Looking to replace my x220 (bought second hand in 2017 for $100 (sticker said STOLEN PROPERTY (but the nice people at computrace unlocked it))) with a refurbished model. X13 gen 1 seems like the same form factor and affordable.. however elitebooks are cheaper and seem more maintainable (e.g. replaceable ram).. The aluminium looks so shit though. What should I do ? Picture: applejuice

I know Let's Note are far from the best value especially if importing, but do they have the best keyboard nowadays?

thinkbump

>>106359383
do us a favor, buy the elitebook and see how good it is. I'm eyeing on elitebook 845 G8 as AMD thinkpads are quite rare here.

Dead thread

>>106364342
why do zoomers hate thinkpads?

I keep wanting pen input but I don't know if I need it. I just want it.

But wanting it greatly limits my options, and they tend to be more expensive. I could get an x13 Yoga... or an l13 yoga. I dunno.

>>106360486
Breddy gud
I'm a zoomer touch typist (120 wpm) so I wouldn't know an awful lot about people who type correctly though
I went from a t440p as my daily to a 2019 MacBook air I got for free that I ran mint on then a T480 and then my let's note now

The MacBook air unfortunately has the most satisfactory keyboard to me with the let's note being a distant second. The ThinkPads have meh keyboards that more than do the job however.

Unless you ABSOLUTELY need the ports or even the CD ROM just get a t480. (Or if you get a good auction on yaj like I did but shipping to USA was still 50$, the laptop itself was a 50 Sv9 model)

>>106350977 (OP)
I have a Legion 7 rather than a stinkpad.
I've been paying for the extended warranty for the past 3 years.
right click on trackpad wore out and when removing my upgrades I found out the original wireless card was dead (maybe I zapped it with static, not sure) so asked them to fix that also.
Lenovo then replaced the entire top case (keyboard, keyboard deck, trackpad, etc.) and the entire motherboard lol.

So overall, they didn't care that I had opened the laptop previously and replaced more than needed to make sure the issue was fixed and i now have a freshly repasted machine with a new CPU/GPU with no miles on them.

Would buy from lenovo again.

>>106359383
I had an x220 and was not impressed with the quality (hinges kept coming loose, trackpad deck cracked because of the card slot gaping hole underneath it, antenna cover was wobbly, screen bezel warped from heat of screen, etc.)
I replaced it with an 820 G3 which was a magnesium shell. thing was built like a tank honestly. I don't think the new ones are as well built though.

>>106350977 (OP)
Cute boy

How do I make middle button for trackpoint function as both middle click and scrolling at the same time without hijacking my mouse? TPMiddle isn't working.

>>106367592
https://github.com/EsportToys/LibreScroll

>>106367118
I love my 2570p and it's better than the x230 in some ways. Keyboard nearly as good. I'm still curious to try a newer Elitebook 840/845 but I expect to be disappointed.

>>106360486
I think the keyboard is okay. Key travel is nice and the Fn key placement is that same as Thinkpads. The henkan/muhenkan key is something to get used to though.

picrel is a QV9 on top of an X61. Its pretty neat to see a modern laptop that has the same (LxW) footprint

I want some opinions on the ThinkPad L460. getting one soon only model that I can get right now

I bought a C13 Chromebook with the intention of using the MrChromeBox firmware to bare metal install linux. Going to do a full writeup on my impressions and comparison to some other Thinkpads I own/owned once it arrives. Thanks for coming to my TED talk preview.

>>106350977 (OP)
The one pictured in the photo please

>>106351048
This one will do fine alternatively

>>106371039
It's okay. Be mindful of the slow CPUs and the (practical) limit of 16 GB RAM. i3 and below are slow enough to be unusable on the modern web.

Case is rough plastic, on the heavy side, reasonably sturdy. For battery use beyond 2.5 hours you need one of the 6-cell batteries which stick out of the case. Keyboard and touchpad are comfy. Maintenance is a little tricky thanks to captive screws that are too tall to loosen in one step and extremely delicate clips along the rear edge.

>>106368987
It's still affecting my mouse. I would only use it if it doesn't. Otherwise I'll just dual boot Linux or something.

Finished the price guide for ThinkPads.
Version10 :)
Used prices on ebay 2025

Gotta update my website, but the image is here.

just bought a Surface Laptop 4 for £215 (2 discount coupons).

Was this a good buy?

I was looking at thinkpads but couldn't get the a price this cheap without getting bad looking screens

>>106360486
I've typed on 4 of these and they keyboard is weird. The keys are slightly rectangular, so you constantly mistype shit. Doesn't help that I have big gaijin hands.

>>106360486
They don't even come with DVD/bluray drive anymore so it's pointless.

is there any thinkpad with a better display than the x1 carbon gen 6 wqhd hdr display yet? I'm tempted to change my gen 6 for something that's 16:10, but I want to keep an equal or better display. What should I look at in terms of new er models?

Thinking about getting the X13s (Snapdragon), any thoughts? Ideally would be running the latest Ubuntu with ARM support.

>>106375012
>paying to beta test hardware
Does Linux even support ARM?

thought of T495/X395? seems like the best bang for bucks especially compared to its xx90 intel counterparts.

>>106372687
thank you dude

>>106371267
>>106371303
never heard of reverse image search?

How do I switch the "consult with AI" button on my Thinkpad T14 keyboard to context menu as default, without holding FN

>>106375135
>Does Linux even support ARM?
Are you trolling or just retarded?

>>106375135
I have soc's at home running armv8 that I've flashed Linux to and they work, so maybe

>>106352682
>>106367300
>>106358116
Correct, sex: male. Do not listen to >>106358284

>>106375135
>>106377794
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.10-ThinkPad-X13s

>>106377790
Support ARM poorly still counts as supporting but my standard isn't that low.

CORE >> ARM

>>106350977 (OP)
Got my first thinkpad today e14 gen 7. Ryzen 7 250. Upgraded ram to 32gb, added additional ssd for linux and upgraded Network from realtek to intel ax210.
I know u don't like e series, but im coming from HP and this bottom quality thinkpad feels nice. Lovely people in china upgraded my order to aluminium bottom even tho only plastic option was possible on lenovo website :)

Boy I am glad I went with 32 GB RAM for my first Thinkpad. I thought it might be a bit of an overkill since I usually just have a couple of web browser tabs open, but I recently switched from Chrome back to Firefox and apparently having about 12-15 tabs open (and no crazy extension) takes like 16 GB RAM on its own.

thinkpads are cool but the true patricians choice is the venerable thinkcentre tiny.

>>106353297
its an x1 carbon gen 6.

>>106350977 (OP)
>T14g3, T14g4
What do you recommend for linux? Intel or AMD?

thinkbump

>>106384261
I saw that, you sick fuck. Glad you got banned for posting it.

My workplace gave me this old X131e they were going to throw away. I know it's not worth much nowadays but it's in near perfect condition, I don't think anyone ever used it. What OS should I install on it?

>>106385078
>X131e
linux with LXQT or XFCE desktop environment. Just pick something like Fedora or Debian as base.
>>>/g/fglt

>>106377047
I have a T495 and I would not recommend it. I have X220 and P52 and T495 just cannot compare when it comes to quality. T495 feels like a toy, also if you add ram to the one expandable slot, make sure not to grab the laptop with one hand or wiggle it as the ram stick will move and freeze the OS. I don't know what you do or need a laptop for, but I can recommend you a P52, as it's a desktop of laptops in performance. Maybe you will find it heavy if you are weak, but it wont let you down.

>>106381344
Is this a cartoon? What's the name I want to watch it kek

not falling for that bait

>>106384629
>check the archives
>it's just a page 10 bump
what?

>>106385348
Wow, look at this boomer using gimp instead of AI... baka...

>>106355193
>Has anyone rinsed/subermerged keyboards built after 2015? I know T420 works, but this backlit shit?
Forget about rinsing. After spilling a cup of water on my T470 backlit LiteOn the Fn key stopped working. Smaller spills were fine.

>>106385207
i'm going to install haiku

I am interested in getting a thinkpad, but I'm not sure where to look or how to start. I am looking for something cheap but reliable, as I would like to take it outside and use it. I will install linux on it. I saw laptops on e-bay for like $25, surely it's not THAT cheap, is it?
I plan on doing programming and web development with it, no gaming or anything, but I would like it to be a workhorse. Where do I start and where do I look?

look on post above, we just got an updated price guide
>>106372687

>>106387225
$25 won't get you far but for twice as much you can get something usable such as T420(s), T430(s), T440p. These take up to 16 GB and on the non-s models you can upgrade the CPU to quad-core.

>>106387225
Google Chrome is dropping AVX2 support so T440p is the bare minimum for first party web browsing support.

>>106387225
Google Chrome is dropping support for CPU that don't have AVX2 so T440p is the bare minimum for first party web browsing support.

>>106388121
Only a build option, it's not like they'll be writing AVX2 in assembly. Edge won't be AVX2-only for a few more years since it has to run on Windows IoT LTSC, and unix distros build their own Chromium anyway.

>>106388121
source: dude, trust me

>>106388076
Thanks anon, I will look into them. I honestly can't believe a person can get a reliable computer for this cheap!

bamp

Hey guys,
I just got my hands on a used P50 ThinkPad.
Slapped Debian on it, she's working pretty smoothly so far!

Anything I should know about the P50 specifically?

>>106380352
i'm on winshit with 24 tabs open in ff and its using 1.2GB ram
you dumb, nigger.
l2ublock and shutup10

I bought a t440p with 4gb of ram and no hard drive. Allegedly 1080p.
I will wait a few weeks and get the RAM and the hard drive, plus the battery and then install linoox and take my shiny new toy around town!

Should I buy a 1920x1200 screen for my new Thinkpad? Its own screen is also 1920x1200, and I only have 1920x1080 screens with HDMI. My one 1200 is DisplayPort only.

>>106384261
It was supposed to be a funny joke

>>106392985
Just get adapter cable.
HDMI and DP carry literally the same signal until compression kicks in at much higher resolutions.

What's a good, cheap thinkpad for Windows 11?

>>106350977 (OP)
>got t14 g3
>shit keyboard
>press enter
>it brush against the fan
what should I move to now bros? x230 is too old now. is X1 carbon better?