Thread 106355234

My Favorite Personal Fantasy Edition

Discussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video Models and UI

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https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassic
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://tensor.art
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>WanX
https://github.com/Wan-Video
2.1: https://rentry.org/wan21kjguide
2.2: https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide
https://alidocs.dingtalk.com/i/nodes/EpGBa2Lm8aZxe5myC99MelA2WgN7R35y

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/tree/main
Training: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
1girl and Beyond: https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
Tag Explorer: https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Samplers: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbours
https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#rentry-from-other-boards
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/b/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo

>>106355234 (OP)
>including child porn in the top left of the collage

>>106355234 (OP)
AGP tranny garbage does not belong to op

>>106355249
fr

This is why you shouldn't inject your fetish into sfw conversation btw.

https://civitai.com/images/95784774
this guy right here, officer.

do you upscale video with remacri or something else?

>>106355464
unless you want to fuck with using cracked topaz, film vfi is good

>>106355464
For upscaling I use https://huggingface.co/Phips/4xBHI_realplksr_dysample_multi
It's another architecture than older esrgan models like remacri, significantly faster but on par quality-wise. Needs spandrel package version >= 4, otherwise it'll error out when trying to load.
For interpolation I use GIMM vfi, slower than RIFE or FILM but it handles faster motion with less artifacts/

>>106355494
>>106355470
Give seed vr2 a look.

>>106355470
https://github.com/Fannovel16/ComfyUI-Frame-Interpolation is it the one in here?

>>106355494
can I still use that upscaler if I'm only doing 2x?

>>106355526
>can I still use that upscaler
You can set any multiplier between 1x and 4x

>>106355526
>the one in here?
yes

Maybe this is nothing to you 10x_hacker types but I just chrooted into my archcraft install from CachyOS and restored it to functionality by replacing the gpu drivers with the new Blackwell ones and, well, I feel like a Silicon God rn.

>>106355249
it's a nine thousand year dragon

>>106355655
What's the setup here, is the archcraft install on another machine ?

*scratches crotch* nunchaku bros?

>>106355537
I got a dumb question, how?

using comfy and the upscale image using model node which upscales by what the upscaler model defaults to

How do you refresh nodes with the updated Comfy, used to be in Edit, but now it's gone ?

>>106355766
just use r

>>106355780
Thanks anon

How do I transfer a pose from one picture to a another using img2img?

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1mxwr4e/update_chroma_project_training_is_finished_the/

Chromacopers on suicide watch.

>>106355815
ideally you would use a controlnet for that.

>>106355834
I tried, but I'm not really sure how to do that, so far it seems to do nothing

>>106355828
>Chromacopers on suicide watch.
??

>>106355828
Antichromacopers, you mean, lode

>>106355843
Yeah well I don't know what you're doing either so I can't help you more without more information.

>>106355850
I think he meant antiantichromacopers

>>106355828
>>106355850
But anyway, radiance one will be interesting to test after it has some more training.

Also, what is the difference between current Base and HD compared to v50?

>>106355856
So

Chroma1-Base.safetensors = v48 (As God intended)

And
>Chroma1-HD: This is the high-res fine-tune of the Chroma1-Base at a 1024x1024 resolution. If you're looking to do a quick fine-tune or LoRA for high-res, this is your starting point.
But what is the difference between this and v48-detailed exactly?

>>106355856
>the difference between current Base and HD compared to v50?
Base is just v48, as in the last epoch only trained at 512 resolution

Chroma1-HD used to be v50 (v49 + merge), but now it's been updated to rev-0.1 which is a large retraining from v48 but at multiple resolutions, 512, 768, 1024 and 1152 specifically.

>>106355868
>rev-0.1 which is a large retraining from v48 but at multiple resolutions, 512, 768, 1024 and 1152 specifically.
So basically v48-detailed but better? What's the difference between the two?

>>106355828
>he used one of the asian girls gens from this thread in the reddit post
holy shit was the chromashill actually lodestone lol

>>106355876
nah, stuff from here was shared in his discord

>>106355879
you're probably right but i'm simply going to choose to believe otherwise because it's funnier

>>106355875
v48-detail calibrated was just v48 + hires merge

new Chroma1-HD is v48 that has been trained on several resolutions up to 1152

>>106355851
If I was uploading my workflow I'd need to include the images I'm using right? I'm trying to transfer a pose from one image to another
Should be able to see my workflow via this: https://litter.catbox.moe/69t0zgx0k1m3ri1h.png

>>106355868

I'm not in the discord so I couldn't find this information. That's wonderful to hear though.

My initial tests have all been really good so far. Prompt adherence is even better than v48, anatomy is improved, and backgrounds are much more consistent. Couldn't be happier with this one.

is radiance supported in comfyui or do i need to perform special fork voodoo magic in order to use it

>>106355900

I think you need a fork right now. Unless you're comfortable with multiple portables and spaghetti I'd wait.

>>106355900
Yeah you're gonna need a fork, Comfy said he would add it when it's done training, but that is still a long way to go

confy should be draged and shod

Ugh, why do you all like Chroma so much? It's just a scuffed finetune of flux.

>>106355932
Like it or not, it's by far the most unslopped open weights model in existence. I consider the fact that it can do nsfw (porn) as a bonus.

Are you still VRAM bound even with a lot of system ram? I'm trying to push Wan above 720p and 81 frames but I still get VRAM OOM errors, even though my system RAM is barely touched.

is qwen able to do pixel art?

>>106355944
>Are you still VRAM bound even with a lot of system ram?
Are you actively doing anything to offload some of that model to vram or do you think it will just magically happen?

>>106355953
loli vampire ToT

>>106355932
Best overall photo-realism, no slopping, training a lora on a real person is magic compared to Flux, the difference is not as huge when it comes to art styles, but even here Chroma is an improvement.

Non-censored, meaning that again, training NSFW loras are incredibly easy, no fighting the base model (hello Flux), it picks up all concepts easily.

We will most likely see large 'special interest' finetunes of Chroma, just like with SDXL (Pony etc), however Chroma is a 100x better base mdoel than SDXL, so the results will be fantastic.

>>106355932
No buttchin, worth it.

No dithering

>>106355932
Public uncensored model, what is there not to like

So... Which Chroma are people going to train loras for? Base or HD?

>>106356085
the equivalent of asking "should i use SD3 medium or large"

>>106355932

Getting an Apache licensed, fully uncensored model that's finally free of sdxl is already great. T5 rescues us from tag hell while still being fully trained on booru content. It's also really, really good at unslopped images.

>fully trained on booru content
>not a single artist tag to be found
lulmao

>>106356113
Except Chroma is more unslopped than even Wan and Qwen and can do NSFW

Ugh, you've all seen Chroma fail to live up to its promise and once again you're all eating up his shit.

>>106356135
Have you even trained a single lora on it?

>>106356140
He hasn't even generated 1 concept he likes with it let alone trained anything

>>106355957
Is there a way to offload apart from the WanWrapper block swap nodes?

>>106356128
>Chroma is more unslopped
lmao

>>106356135
It's a base model, it's purpose is the be finetuned upon, he even makes this perfectly clear in the reddit post

>>106356210
post the most unslopped detailed image from any model other than chroma
>inb4 never ever
exactly

Reminder that chroma is fucking garbage
>>106106138

>>106356227
if you want a dark image you need to feed it a pure black latent and lower the denoise
this is a weakness of many diffusion models that they try to average out the brightness of the image

Reminder that tomatoes are fruits

>>106356219
>It's a base model
No. The model that trained flux was.

>>106356240
Nice excuses when Wan 2.2 and Qwen Image can complete the task just fine
>>106106226
>>106106291
Picrel: Qwen Image

>>106356140
I mean, kind of get it. If you've only used the base model as is, it's like a better SDXL, but not like whooaa in any real sense.

However if you've trained a lora, particularly real people and NSFW, it's shocking how good the results are. From a NSFW Wan i2v perspective, it's a crazy powerful combination.

And also, art styles are easy to train and better results than Flux, also Chroma is comparatively very fast to train compared to 'stronger' models like Wan and Qwen. Also, if you're training Chroma loras using Diffusion-Pipe then you're in for a large speedup with OneTrainer which will likely release its Chroma training support early next week.

Training a lora on same settings (bfloat16, rank 16 alpha 16) with OneTrainer and Diffusion-Pipe, OneTrainer took ~40% less time due to it's extremely optimized offloading.

>>106356271
hence why i said "some" diffusion models. not all of them have this issue
also i'm not even trying to defend chroma, it's kind of shit, still producing horror anatomy but it can at least do proper nsfw and subject variety which qwen/wan are not very good at

>>106355868

Does this mean there's no new gguf needed for v48 then? I saw silveroxides uploaded a HD gguf.

>>106356245
No it's a base model.

Chroma has practically nothing left of Flux Schnell, he de-distilled it (thus adding negative CFG) and also de-censored / de-slopped it by training on tons of real world images as opposed to Flux Schnell which only trained on heavily censored synthetic and thus slopped output from Flux Pro.

>>106356271
you do realize that this is mostly a prompt issue, that Qwen-img uses Qwen-VL (multimodal LLM) as the text encoder and it does the heavy lifting and it's way better than T5, right?

>>106356301
Nothing has changed with v48 (aka Chroma1-Base) AFAIK

is flux dev obsolete?

>>106356311
Got it, thanks. I'll keep both for now then.

>>106356227
>the kitchen knife isn't good for surgery so its fucking garbage
Chroma antis really are retarded, I'm not saying that chroma couldn't be better or that limit testing the model with niche prompts shouldn't be done, but to ignore the most realistic, the most unslopped, and the most uncensored model for most use cases because its ALSO not noobai vpred tier color depth specifically, is a sign that you are either a low IQ subhuman or bad faith FUDnigger.

Also notice how Chroma antis NEVER EVER post more realistic detailed images with ANY other model? Really gets the noggin joggin. >>106356221

>>106356317
I think it's fallen out of use gracefully yes.

>>106356322
nice reddit spacing btw

Furry fucktards really be shilling that furry model huh?

>>106356348
Nice deflection away from not having an argument aside from not knowing what a paragraph is, lmao

>>106356348

Hello newfag who doesn't know what reddit spacing is

This is reddit spacing

>>106356363
>still no argument
>still doesn't know what a paragraph is.
Truly brutal, must be a brownoid.

>>106355828
>v50
>still no artist knowledge
kekaroos

How the fuck does Video on Vladmatic work

>zoomers STILL doesn't know plebbit spacing was a meme to begin with
l

o

l

>>106356384
>i was only pretending to be retarded

>>106356384
you just dont get it, chud, you cant separate text logically so its easier to skim over or read, everything that isnt a wall of text is reddit spacing, i would know, as a super og oldfag from 2016

>>106356391
>I was only replying to other comments with the lowest quality attempts of rebuttals without being able to engage with multiple previous arguments that exposed me as a newfag retard
Can't imagine how much cog diss is your brain feeling right now, kek.
Make sure to stay in these threads and now seethe for months into the future shitting up the place because you got btfod today.

Chromacoper be like "NOOOO that artist is too obscure!!" when Illustrious, NoobAI, NAI all have artists knowledge of ~50 pics artists

>>106356447
Also forgot to say that lodestone is a transphobe.

>>106356447
>Illustrious, NoobAI
Are you retarded, these are full finetunes of SDXL specifically trained for art generation with *booru tags etc

There will undoubtably be such finetunes for Chroma as well, these came out long after SDXL was released, the whole point of a base model is to make it jack of all trades, master of none, so as to have minimal inherent bias when doing further finetuning.

>>106356505
No, I need my hentai artist knowledge to be baked in, I don't want to download loras. If Chroma doesn't have that its trash.

>>106356505
Before Chroma finished training the excuse was "will it's a model in training"
Now the excuse is "just wait for the finetroons ;)"

>>106356515
>just train 1000 loras for the 1000 artists of 500 pics each
chromadefensesquad at work

>maybe it can be used as a base model for future finetunes?
absolutely prophetic

>>106356505
dont think ive seen a single chroma anime image

>base(d) model doesn't contain everything
anon just train a lora already. I train one almost every night. Mornings are objectively better with freshly baked latents.

>>106356525
Chroma still has no popular artist knowledge
But yeah, "uncensored models" and all

>>106356516
>Before Chroma finished training the excuse was "will it's a model in training"
Building straw man arguments is pathetic, this was always billed as a base model, just like SDXL etc.

Nobody uses SDXL, only large finetunes of SDXL, Chroma is 100 times better than SDXL, yet it's still just a base model, meant for further finetuning, be it full or just loras.

>>106356447
>it doesn't know tranime!
good

>>106356493
based

>>106356525
The Chroma discord is full of anime images

There's more to test but for now it seems Chroma1-HD is indeed the best version for basically any type of genning. I don't see a reason to use basic v48 anymore, it's quite a lot better than v48/v48detailed and ofc v50.

It also seems like for the best realism, with v48/d was positive prompt "aesthetic_9" and negative "aesthetic_1" was best, but now with chroma1-hd its best "aesthetic_11" in positive and "aesthetic_1" in negative. Either that, or only "aesthetic_1" in negative, or none of these, depending on the style you want.

>>106356552
>all but admitted that chroma is a realismslop model

i donated to chroma. i dont think the model turned out great, but i would donate again for part 2. i would easily support another project, but none exist. chroma is, right now, the only nsfw finetune project out there. local is absolutely stagnant otherwise

>>106356557
Wonder why they only post on their trannycord

>>106356546
>this was always billed as a base model, just like SDXL etc.
hmmmm
>https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma
>Training on a 5M dataset, curated from 20M samples including anime

>>106356558
>any type of genning
Except anime of course. We don't want tranime to taint our realistic model.

It sounds like the chroma discord is a great place for chroma discussion. Why can't you all take it there?

>>106356584
Because faggots like >>106355974 keep shilling it here

i just want onetrainer support for chroma and qwen

>>106356532

>>106356584
>>106356591
Something about local diffusion

>>106356596
Local diffusion is when the "base model" has censored knowledge

>>106356576
I meant any type of genning within all the different Chroma versions. Since before, v48 was best overall and for realism, v48-d could be better for some less realistic but still detailed styles, and v50 was best for genning with good anatomy, now chroma1-hd is best for all of these.

>>106356569
Why wouldn't anime images be part of a base model training set ? What part of 'jack of all trades, master of none' did you fail to understand ?

>>106356584
Feel free to leave the thread if you dont want to se local model discussion, sis

>>106356603
Anime is part of the training but the fully trained model is conspicuously devoid of artist knowledge. Curious

>muh artists
We need a decent realism model, most releaes the last years like noob, pony etc were anime focused

>>106356617
Why would you include anime slop in your realism model training?
>Training on a 5M dataset, curated from 20M samples including anime

>>106356592
OneTrainer support is done, it's just being bug tested, will likely be merged early next week

If you're really eager, you can:

git clone https://github.com/dxqb/OneTrainer -b chroma

>>106356617
NOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED A MID STYLE KNOWLEDGE OF MY 5 FAVOURITE HENTAI ARTISTS THAT IS GONNA BE 10x WORSE THAN THE LORA TRAINED BY SOME GIGA COOMER ANYWAY OR THE MODEL IS TRASH

>>106356532
>Mornings are objectively better with freshly baked latents.
This, it's weird but true

>>106356630
>THE MODEL IS TRASH
trvke

Oh God it all makes sense. It's nothing but pure poorfagcope

>>106356611
How about you make a chroma general?

>>106356540
Illustrious 1.1 is better than 2.0. Also what about neta-lumina and the single sloptune of it that currently exists?

To all Chroma haters out there:

Train a single Qwen lora that can do this (vintage 80s like images) without gacha and without EVER outputting 4o-like slop.
If you manage to do it, I'll kneel.

I am saying this because I tried training a Qwen lora on this over and over and the model resisted the style and was still biased to produce slop (and when I tried a high LR it fried the model).

It was EXTREMELY easy to make Chroma learn about this. It's not easy to do the same with Qwen.

>>106355932
>natively nsfw and knows a lot of freak stuff without million loras

>>106356638
Nah, feel free to leave though

>>106356637
More like trannycord furry cope. If you can run Chroma you can other "big" open source image models.

>>106356561
you seem lost troon
>>>/g/adt/

>>106356649
It knows a lot of stuff without million loras, but please train a lora for every artist you know of!

NOOOOOOOOOOO I COULDN'T INCLUDE MID IMAGES OF 5 FAVOURITE HENTAI ARTISTS ON DANBOORU THAT IS GONNA MAKE THE MODEL 10x WORSE THAN WITHOUT TRANIME IT AND IT WOULD TRAIN 1 HOUR LONGER MODEL IS GREAT AS IS FINETUNE IT YOURSELF YOU DICK

>>106356616
Because just like every base model with the exception of SD1.5, contemporary artist names have been largely pruned from captions, likely to prevent the attacks / lawsuits from them. Same goes for majority of celebrities. They are still being trained, but not captioned by name.

This is where finetunes and loras come in, again like with all other base models.

>>106356655
Almost anyone can run any model, the problem is when it takes poorfags longer than with their 512x512 then 4x upscaled sdxl gens

>>106356660
Go back to your trannycord chromahorsefucker

>>106356660
>forcing the shitty split psyop
No thanks.

>>106356651
I'll be here long after chroma has lost relevance. You should go back to the discord.

>>106356671
>uncensored model needing to prevent lawsuits
lmao

>>106356668
based, total tranimetroon death, just use noob/illust with a lora trained by the giga coomer that personally fixed every image in the 4000 image dataset from an artist that he coomed to every other day for 10 years instead

>>106356638
The final version was just released, there will be discussion, deal with it or leave faggot

In ComfyUI, is it possible to force the ksampler to not resize during animated previews?

what's reforge2 like so far?

>>106356671
Somehow NovelAI doesn't worry about artist lawsuits. Also very curious!

if some retard can wander in and post his literal tranny veo3 slop gens with virtually no pushback then you faggots can learn to live with the chromafags too

>>106356681
Nah, now feel free to seethe more about local model discussion on local model general

>>106356697
Go away animetroon. Go jerk to whatever artist you like.

>>106356689
W-what? N-no two more epochs?

>>106356624
thank you, i'll just be patient and wait for any issues to be ironed out

>>106356645
Is this lora released ? Asking for a friend

>>106356655
Right, that's why we're bringing up Illustrious and Neta-lumima of all fucking things

>>106356697
>learn to live with the chromafags
uhh, sis...

I know that in two months time im going to back after fighting a real-life adversary and still find..
>no /ai/ board
If its not shitposting about chroma then its even more ai thread fracturing and more tranny jannies still doing shit to divide and not improve anything.

>>106356718
if jannies made an /ai/ board then /g/ would be dead so they're not going to do it

>>106356715
Totally not because of smaller models having more knowledge than Chroma. Couldn't be.

>>106356712
two more epochs and all of chroma's problems will be magically fixed, this time we pinky promise.

>>106356716
>42 votes
I didn't think this many people even posted on /ldg/

>>106356724
That's a terrible excuse and you know it. Why would they do anything FOR FREE? Is a better question other than removing this post?

>>106356727
Reminder that Pony was praised the same way despite being obvious sepiaslop

pony was the perfect model and when v7 finally releases everyone in this thread will take the auraflowpill

>>106356712
NTA but VAE is no longer lode's best friend. pixel space is new best friend

>>106356737
>I didn't think this many people even posted on /ldg/
>1 schizo theory

>>106356751
pony was trained by furries and was religiously shilled here
chroma was trained by furries and was religiously shilled here
coincidence?

>>106356727
>of smaller models having more knowledge than Chroma.
No they don't, stop with the fucking lies.

They are specifically trained for anime style art, they hardly know shit outside of that.

>>106356757
i am at least 16 of the no votes and 20 of the yes votes

So this is the final, best version to use, right?
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/tree/main

>>106356768
Just train a lora

>>106356737
My guess is there's ~200-300 lurking these threads on a daily basis.

>>106356637
>>106356655
How poor do you have to be not to be able to run Chroma I have 12Gb and it runs fine

>>106356777
v1 is the best epoch anon don't listen to their lies

>>106356600

Base is still good for low resolution, but the anatomy seems more consistent in HD. I think both have their uses.

>>106356768
>anime knowledge is not knowledge because i said so
chromatrannies, everyone

>>106356777
Specifically this so you don't waste bandwidth https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/blob/main/Chroma1-HD.safetensors

I hate the Jannies so much. They are the most fucking vie pecies of human filth of there ever was such a thing. The very fact these people do it for free and have let this place go is an affront to existance.

>>106356789
prompt?

>>106356786
Learn to read. OP was saying Chroma was for poor people.

>>106356793
If I trained loras on v50, do you think it'd be best to retrain them for Chroma1-HD?

>>106356683
Nobody is going to sue them over being 'uncensored'

However artists will sue over their art being trained on, Stability AI and Midjourney are currently being sued by artists

>>106356493
is that why chroma likes to draw dicks and ballsacks on women?

>>106356819
So they self-censored to prevent artists from suing? Got it.

>>106356743
>>106356794
>no metadata
Good riddance.

>>106356822
It's a furry model. What did you expect?

>>106356714
Catbox seems offline atm, I will try again in a few hours

>>106356808
Yes, this new version is what 99% of people will use, and loras always work best with the version they were trained on.

if chroma has a better arch than sdxl, is 4x the size, gens 4x slower, and is split 4 ways (anime, furry, realism, paintings) then why isn't it a master of all 4? it should have enough params to fit them all, what are the parameters going towards? getting beat in anime by shoddy sdxl finetunes is sad

>>106356825
They remove artist names from the captions, yes, the art is still there and trained

I don't know why you think this is some 'gotcha', it's no different than any other base model since the SD1.5 days

>>106356808

They'll probably still work fine? V50 had some weirdness going on but I'm not sure how it would impact it practically.

>>106356796

I lost the Metadata for my older v48 outputs, sorry anon. I'll try to recreate it.

>>106356844
a finetune in 2 more weeks will fix everything sir

>chroma doesn't even reach through my screen to jerk me off
shit model. why even use anything other than sdxl?

>>106356808
lora from 40 inferenced on HD (51?)

>>106356822
Because of what it has seen. You need to be more specific

>>106356853
>the art is still there and trained
not against the tags they weren't

>>106356864
>i-it's better than sdxl
pathetic chromacope

>>106356844
>then why isn't it a master of all 4
It's more a 'master' than SDXL, but it's nowhere near the size that would make it a 'master of all 4', Qwen is a MUCH larger model, and it's not a 'master of all 4'

Your logic is not just flawed, it's retarded

>>106356881
sounds like sloppabaker cope. perhaps reevaluate your datasets

>>106356881
>Your logic is not just flawed, it's retarded
More it's not X, it's Y slop from our local redditspacing chromatard

>>106356875
What part of 'they remove artist names from the captions' did you fail to grasp ?

>>106356853

Can confirm. You prompt "in the style of x" or "art by x" and if will work.

>>106356879
it's not better than sdxl. sdxl generates 1girl in a few seconds and chroma takes much longer

Alright cool where are the GGUFs

>loras will make chroma great
Ok. give me loras and i will praise chroma

>>106356898
They censored artist names and the model couldn't tell between artists.

>>106356905
Just train a lora for every artist. That will fix chroma!

>>106356902

Check silveroxides' hf. The v48/base gguf is unchanged.

>>106356532
Idk how to set up the pipe thing

saar i do not have compute to train lora or finetune please help me why chroma doesnt know hentia artist

>>106356901
>it's not better than sdxl
lel

jesus fuck why is it anytime anything new comes out all that happens here is shitposting and trolling? what happened to the "diffusion" part of ldg?

chroma is a flop. relying on loras ensures this model is dead on arrival simply because of how much more demanding they are to train compared to sdxl. chroma asks for too much and delivers too little. loras cannot save a 512x512 fluxbake

>>106356925
>SDXL
gens slop
>Chroma
gens slop at 0.25x speed

>>106356924
lmao POOR

>106356901
>it's not better than sdxl
almost fell for it

>>106356907
Yes, every base model dataset since SD1.5 does this.

They don't want to be sued by artists, like SAI and Midjourney is being.

Are you fucking stupid ?

>>106356926
When a model advertised itself as being "uncensored" when it's anything but, you bet people would be angry.

>>106356925
it simply isn't. type "masterpiece, best quality, 8k, newest, highres, very awa, 1girl" into the positive prompt for both chroma and sdxl and see which one takes longer

>>106356937
So the model isn't really uncensored? Got it.

>load tensorlogs on tensorboard
What I'm supposed to see here?

>>106356926
Most people here don't know what the fuck they are doing. You can see what it's being posted here and 90% is literal slop while the indians posting them think it's art.

I stay here for the occasional gold nugget in a swamp of shit, but don't take what people say here too seriously.

>>106356645
do you mind sharing numbers on the dataset size & scheduler/learning rate? I'm the anon who praised the dalle3-like maid waifu holding rifle a few threads back

I've tried baking some loras for chroma 47 with diffusion-pipe but had tough luck, then I switch to musubi-tuner and did qwen and got great results (picrel)

usually i go with kohya_ss for everything so I'd like to think its just diffusion-pipe being shit, will retry on the new chroma w/ musubi soon

Midjourney won, OpenAI won, Mogao won, NovelAI won
localjeets lost

>>106356954
musubi supports chroma?

>>106356953
aww i'm so sowwy you wasted 100k h100 hours to train a censored model

>>106356958
I think he meant the sd-scripts SD3 branch ? That has Chroma support

>troll sees someone value something or feel pride
Welcome to 4chan

Flux lost. Chroma lost. Qwen lost.
SDXL won.

>>106356921
Install WSL2 for Linux support if you have winblows
>Training: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

it doesn't matter how good chroma is, what matters is how good you can trick your patreon subs into thinking it can be

>>106357000
the better it is, the more seethe i get when i bait about it not being good lmao

>>106356954
Around 270 images I think, carefully curated, and I processed some of the images on Flux Kontext to remove texts and artifacts
The LRs I tried were between 3e-4 and 1e-4, the later fried Qwen, and it still produced 4o plastic skin slop if I prompted for anything out of distribution

I found lodestone's fav game

Hello. Noob here. I have a question.
How do I generate local AI video with my limited PC?
I have 16GB VRam, and 12GB normal RAM.

I have generated AI images without problem using Stable Diffusion.
But I have not been successful in creating Ai videos, I tried following guides on the internet, but the thing keep failing without me really making much sense of it.

Does anybody have a suggestion and step-by-step TLDR on what to install, so I can generate AI videos on my low-end PC?
Any tricks I need to use?

Thanks.

>>106357037
Step 1: buy 2x32 ram sticks

>>106356789
Try comparing them side to side, chroma1-hd is still much better for 768x768

>>106357037
16gb ram is barely enough anymore even for non-ai shit. buy more ram

>>106357037
>I have 16GB VRam, and 12GB normal RAM
It's probably not going to work, I think you need more system ram, even with low quantization like q4 models.

If you can, upgrade your system ram to at least 32gb, then you should be able to use q4, q6 models, better if you have 64gb ram, then you can use q8 / fp8 have better quality.

>>106357037
>local AI video
>12GB normal RAM

>>106356969
>>106356958
yeah, meant kohya's sd-scripts musubi is the new one he did mainly for video but qwen's in there now

Memory leak anon from last thread

>had latest comfy
>EVERY video workflow leaked mem and froze computer
>delete comfy
>complete fresh install of version v0.3.45
>everything runs faster without leaks

I'm never updating again

>>106356674
Tranime faggots like you deserve the rope. You're not wanted here, kys.

>>106357077
I see, thought musubi was just for video models

>>106357034
heh

>>106357037
>local AI video
>12GB normal RAM
lawl

buy more ram

>>106356433
Seedream/mogao once again -mogging all-

>>106357093
Anime website

>>106356940
>>106356964
what? how is it censored? i've been making all kinds of filth with it.

>>106357110
>retard thinks every board is anime
Braindead

>>106357012
ahhh, yea thats the same learning rate i used on qwen, gonna give Chroma another go

accelerate launch src/musubi_tuner/qwen_image_train_network.py \
--dit models/qwen_image_bf16.safetensors \
--vae models/diffusion_pytorch_model.safetensors \
--text_encoder models/qwen_2.5_vl_7b.safetensors \
--dataset_config /workspace/kuso.toml \
--sdpa \
--mixed_precision bf16 \
--timestep_sampling shift \
--weighting_scheme none \
--discrete_flow_shift 3.0 \
--optimizer_type adamw8bit \
--learning_rate 1e-4 \
--gradient_checkpointing \
--max_data_loader_n_workers 2 \
--persistent_data_loader_workers \
--network_module networks.lora_qwen_image \
--network_dim 64 \
--network_alpha 64 \
--max_train_epochs 10 \
--save_every_n_epochs 1 \
--seed 42 \
--output_dir /workspace/output \
--output_name qwen-kuso \
--logging_dir /workspace/logs

>>106357037

If technical stuff scares you install wan2gp through an app called Pinokio. Buy at least another 16gb of ram. 64gb total would be better if you can afford it. The most popular motel right now is called Wan 2.2. The interface has a lot of numbers you can mostly ignore as a casual user, focus on the prompting and if you want to use text to video or image to video. You can follow the official prompt guide here https://alidocs(dot)dingtalk.com/i/nodes/EpGBa2Lm8aZxe5myC99MelA2WgN7R35y

>>106356942
Anons are weird about this, they don’t care that the bigger models are so much slower, but I tell ya, using flux recently just simple 1024 square images take like 5 times longer for me and that makes it feel borderline unusable, the quality “gain” almost feels not worth it.

>>106357112
Seethe, cope and dilate

>>106357124
Kill yourself, faggot.

>>106357050

I'm still getting some blurry outputs at low resolutions for the HD version when I try that. I'll try negative prompting "blurry" or some shit.

>>106357115
He is crying that it is censored because it doesn't contain names of contemporary artists, just their art styles

This will be the new 'chroma is bad because X' this jackass will spam

>106357045
>106357058
>106357066
>106357069

Alright, thanks for the confirmation.
I thought it's too low for videos, but not sure if anybody had done some wizardry to make it work, so I came to ask.
I'll just wait for a little more while until I feel like upgrading my PC, and just get the 256GB RAM motherboard, or just go full retard and get the double CPU 700GB RAM motherboard for DeepSeek.

Do I need some special 24GB VRam graphic card too, or is the 16GB graphic card is enough?
I don't mind if the generation being slow.

>>106357149
>>106357133
>>106356916
>>106356854
can you stop gayspacing and mashing enter before typing 'anon' ?

>>106357137
i'm impatient and use hyper loras to speed things up

>>106357142
wait, it's that easy to remove rocketchomo?

>>106357163

colossal retard

>>106357164
I stand by what I said. Mock me all you like but if it feels too slow it just isn’t cool.

>>106357142
Notice the equivocation fallacy, tranimetroons are too low IQ for basic logic.
I'm not saying posting anime is against the rules, I'm showing that this isn't a tranime website.
This isn't an tranime technology board about tranime, it's a technology board.
What the site was initially founded on all that time ago is irrelevant, that is a genetic fallacy.

@106357177
>gayspaces again

>>106357148
You first, troon.

>>106356348
>>106356363
>newfag who cries reddit spacing trying to fit in
lurk moar

>>106357148
a whole lot of strawmen nobody said

>>106357191
>he thinks replies are an updoot

You're telling me I can make images on my computer with local diffusion models?

If I can't do asura /(asurauser/), 1girl, coom then the model is essentially dead

>>106357213
That’s crazy talk anon knock that off

>>106357213
yes

>>106357158
24gb is ideal but really only required for full models. If you use quants, Q8 versions are almost identical in quality.

>>106357213
lmao, ai (glorified if else clauses) will NEVER be that good, give it up

>>106357133
Thanks, that's what I want to know.
Will be using those tips as starting point.
I'll see if I can download more RAM without blocking the air intake to the CPU. Currently I am spacing 2 of them out so they get more airflow.

>>106357228
he cant use q8 of most new models with 16gb

>>106357239
I know. The other anon told him to get another stick of ram. 12gb vram is enough for q8s.

Weekend is here anons!
Let the weekend Chroma shilling being!
Any sign of the anon who makes the ugly asian woman chroma gens?
Heard anything new from Lodestone?
You know the drill, anons. New day, new paper from Lodestone, new cope.

>>106357293
>paper

>>106357276
i meant his 16gb vram is not enough for q8, not for qwen t2i, not for qwen edit, and barely minimum for only current day video gen but even then its a huge speed sacrifice given much higher blockswap and memory bandwith decrease of 16gb cards compared to 3090/4090/+

The daily cycle of Chroma: new version drops, new cope begins.
Come on, chroma shiller, i'm here waiting for you.

>>106356348
>>106356367
>Reddit invented paragraphs

kill yourself, retarded newfag

why didn't lodestones just use the chroma dataset to train sdxl? is he retarded? the sdxl architecture is literally perfect

>>106357304
No? He doesn't publish new papers on the new versions of Chroma?
Are you telling me that Lodestones vibe updates his models?

>>106356796

Here you go anon. It's not 1 to 1 but its the same idea.

Positive: Candid photo. Subject is photorealistic Meowscarada. He is asleep on the bus next to the viewer. Warm midday exterior lighting. Aesthetic 11.

Negative: Cartoon. Drawing. Painting. Illustration. Anime. Blurry.

>>106357323
thank you kindly

>>106357306
Of course. It will be slow, but still work. If speed is a concern he can skimp further down to q4 if need be but that depends on how goonpilled you are I guess.

>>106357322
But actually, that's a good thing! (I bombard you with millions of photos of Asian women comparing different versions of Chroma, each one worse than the last).

WHERE ARE THE ARTS OF JEETS

don't be afraid of the tranny

>>106356645
what are your settings? i have horrible gens, with flash and normal chroma

>>106357340
even svdquants are pretty bad let alone q4, 500-700$ 3090 is basically a minimum

>>106357409
Everybody's minimum standards are different. This is of course assuming they'd be okay with sub HD resolutions.

>>106356671
did he actually say he was wiping artist tags?

>>106357383
post a screen of your workflow

>>106357383
The pics were made with Chroma Flash (which is based on Chroma v48)
Sampler: Heun
Scheduler: Beta
Steps: 8
CFG: 1

reforge2 is shit, nothing but errors and issues so far. i'd avoid it for a month or so

slop throughput augmented by claud, got a dataset processor mostly working to help select candidates from thousands of images for a Qwen Image Edit lora

Analyzers executed: yolo_pose, qwen_classification, qwen_features, nudenet_safety
Pose detection success: 100.0%

Classification distribution:
standing+front: 8
sitting+front: 1
standing+right: 2
standing+back: 1
laying+back: 1

Safety distribution:
safe: 6
unsafe: 7

TRANSFORMATION DETECTION RESULTS
clothing_removal
Transformation from clothed to unclothed states
Groups: 1
Pairs: 5
─ Group pose_standing_orient_front_pose_detected: 5 pairs

Total transformation pairs found: 5

>>106357531
just share a catbox lol. or nothing happened

>>106357620
Catbox is offline for uploads (I tried, I was even going to upload the Lora itself), but here is the flow on pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/zVUK1TnB

>>106357663
cool. what's showa3?

>>106357757
The lora I trained... Did you even read the post?

>>106357754
turbo-autist save us!

>>106357164
Emma my wife!

>>106357790
STOP INTERPOLATING ANIME

anybody else have an issue where Wan is frying the colors of the last few frames?
>>106357790
kek

>>106357790
noice. don't listen to the autist above

>>106357821
STOP INTERPOLATING ANIME

>>106357754
it's been a while since I prompted anything sfw

NEW CHROMA!
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD
NEW CHROMA!
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD
NEW CHROMA!
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD

>>106357959
>rev-0.1
so is it still cooking? fuck is even going on

>>106357037
I have 64gb of ddr4 will I gain anything from upgrading to 128gb or is it just a waste of time?

>>106357981
You'll have more space for comfyui to fill up for no apparent reason.

>>106357941
And people cry about chroma anatomy? What qwen quant is this lol?

>>106357981
If you aren't doing a ton of videogens then not really.

>>106357981
my Wan video gens usually are 80+GB

>>106358079
Now do a gen and then unload the models and node cache

>>106358046
>150 gens yesterday
Think I might have a problem.

>>106358089
rookie numbers

>>106357437
Everyone is doing that for base models, since there are artist lawsuits going on right now against Midjourney and Stability Inc

>>106357973
No it's done, this is final release

rev-0.1 is just to indicate that the previous Chroma1-HD (v50) which was in this repo for a couple of weeks has been replaced

https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1mxwr4e/update_chroma_project_training_is_finished_the/

Have anyone compared in ReForge2 the difference between normal clip and LONG clip?

>>106358098
yeah but he isnt a company and i dont think he aspires to be one, i assumed it was just the model struggling to fit them

>>106357959
>Chroma1 is intentionally designed to be an excellent starting point for finetuning
"yeah, today I m gonna finetune Chroma" said no one ever in their entire life.

>>106358112
But is it good? I need asian feet pics to judge.

>>106358230
Doesn't mean he can't get sued, and he has much less means with which to defend himself in court than a company would

>>106358269
the noob, illustrious and lumina trainers could also get sued, but they still included them
he could also get sued by some crazy bitch for "deepfakes" using a lora on his model, when you start going there it never ends
if they were purged on purpose im going to be mad

>>106357959
Qwen-image killer?

>>106358325
Probably! maybe in the next two updates!!!

is qwen edit better than kontext? they seem the exact same

>>106358190
How do I use longClip in reforge2? Can't see the option anywhere

>>106358470
>>106358470
>>106358470
>>106358470

Anyone here have any experience using the Vace Spline Control stuff in ComfyUI? I got a fairly simple workflow and got every node set up but my setup always fails at the WanVaceToVideo node with the error NoneType is not Iterable. My programming experience tells me there's some kind of data type mismatch but I'm not sure how to fix that, or why it would even happen given that this is a workflow I got from someone who had it working.

>>106358098
ok so what about chinese companies? they clearly don't give a fuck about ip 'rights'

>>106358096
Where to see this or lifetime gens in comfy? i probably genned 100k+ by now

>>106358306
If you make a base model, you either train all artist styles with names or no styles, else you are just creating biases in the model

Noob, illustrious and lumina are base model finetunes made specifically for artist styles, they really can't avoid taking that risk

>he could also get sued by some crazy bitch for "deepfakes" using a lora on his model
That would never get to court, that would like suing Microsoft if someone does something illegal on the Windows OS