Thread 106357574

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106350078

>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

repost because I didn't notice the thread was over:
Dell G2725D or Samsung Odyssey G5 G50D for 180-190ish eurobucks?
>both bad
Sure, they're entry-level 1440p, but which one is less bad?
>read the OP retard
KTC doesn't seem to sell in my cuntry, the ASUS is out of budget by nearly 100 euro, and the Gigabyte is out of stock.

>>106357609
G2725D has better contrast than the G50D, and slightly better colors post-calibration.
I'd get G50D if you're mainly sticking with stock settings with no calibrating equipment.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/samsung-odyssey-g50d-s27dg50-vs-dell-g2725d/60445/77107

how important is a 360mm AIO

>>106357676
Depends on how loud you plan to run the AIO.

liquid cooling is cringe and gay

>>106357609
Samsung has
>way better stand
>S tier ergonomics
>faster pixel transitions
>less vrr flicker
>meme hdr as bonus
so everything is better than the dell?
at these price levels just a non fixed stand would be enough to sway my decision

>>106357676
better than not having it
they literally bundle them with cpus for free these days

Kimchi technology domination. Not everything out of Worst Korea is all that bad it seems.

Has anyone tried modding a Blackwell card to use regular 8pins instead of the housefire connector? Or at least to add a second one to split the current?

>>106358013
the only people that mod it want to add even more power to it so no

https://wccftech.com/chinas-most-capable-gaming-gpu-the-lisuan-g100-becomes-the-first-domestic-offering-to-support-fp8-operations
>Lisuan Manages to Offer INT8 Operations For Its G100 Gaming GPU, Positioning It For AI Workloads As Well

LISUAN WON

THANK YOU LISUAN

>>106358033
All right. In that case, I guess I'll fork over the retard tax for the ASUS anniversary 5090 and run it power limited to be safe.

>>106358042
>chinks getting to mainstream faster than intel
jej

>>106357574 (OP)
gettin real wacky

>>106358242
appear to have gotten away with it too

Is water cooling typically better temperature-wise? What about in a hotter environment, say 80F/27C?

>>106358252
and the block
what of the block

>>106358242
what are you delidding

Question for the people who do this shit for a living.
Is there some chinkware thats a one-size-fits-all solution to booting motherboards without having to install a proper fan? Something you can just put on top thatll draw some of the heat away without getting the paste out?
I've been testing a bunch of used boards, but even loading into bios causes the cpu to become a tiny sun, and I cant be assed to waste tubes of paste just to see if the boards will post.

it really seems like the next trend is gonna be fully glass cases

>>106358330
>fully glass cases
nice

>>106358330
motherboard standoffs built into a rear glass panel
glass fans
glass encased PSU

>>106358298
thermal grizzly mycro pro direct die, supposed to get delivered today so i'm preparing

pic related is current setup;
5700x3d (lol) tuf x570, 5090 astral with a bykski block

new setup is strix x870e-e and 9950x3d + 64gb 6000mt-cl30

>>106358326
9950x3d

>>106358252
That's commitment, hf tuning the CPU.

>>106358326
I'm guessing it's a 9950X3D.

>>106358327
just use a thermal pad instead of paste, you don't need it to be perfect

>>106358330
that looks like a speaker

>>106358354
are pads reusable for the most part? never bothered with them, and id like to find something that isnt a recurring cost.

>>106357574 (OP)
>5060Ti 16GB
why in the world would anyone buy 5060ti over 4070/5070?

>>106358374
as long as you aren't too rough with them

>>106358382
You can find them 100-150 dollars cheaper

>>106358327
>>106358374
just use cheap paste + any cheap heatsink that fits but doesnt need to be screwed down (like a aluminum fin block)
it will be enough to boot into bios and windows but dont do any stress tests on it obviously

>>106358382
and more vram

>>106358403
but they're garbage, whether with 8gb or 16gb vram
might as well save a few bucks with the base 8gb version or save up for xx70 which is vastly superior

>>106358055
Better be quick. There's only 1000 units of that being made
And you will want one of the handful of Asus BTF board (and case) to use the BTF connector to offload some watts away from the 12v-2x6 connector

>>106358382
those 16gb xx60 cards are for cheap ai. like the normie who wants to gen porn but not game.

>>106354121
I forgot that YESTON is based in Shenzhen.

>>106356298
Jungle Leopard/Asiahorse/JONSBO are best known for making Cheaper (but still functional) clones of the Lian Li Infinite Mirror Fans- which all looks the same. Indians/budget builders love them. My theory is that one or someone they know is the OEM, and they are based in the Pearl River Delta industrial hub. Coolmoon also makes mirror fans but they also come up with their own original designs.

>>106358421
Buying a 5070 right now is retarded, since the supers are going to have 18 GB of VRAM

>>106358469
buying a 5070 right now gives you a gpu that is good enough for pretty much everything at 1440p
buying a 5070 with 18gb vram gets you... idk, better ai slop? it's not enough for 4k anyway
buying a 5060 gets you a budget turd

>>106358498
>it's not enough for 4k anyway
Is the 5090 the only option for 4K/ultrawide gaming?

>>106358469
12gb vs 18gb realistically you're going to be waiting a long time before that actually matters for a midrange card in gaming.
And then you actually have to be able to buy a 5070 super for msrp/close to msrp.

>>106358567
If you don't want to target 1080p internally with dlss, yes.

>>106358567
ultrawide is 50% easier to run than 2160p

>>106358567
5070ti is the least you'll want for 4k, assuming you're fine with upscaling. 5080 is okay for most games that are out rn
>ultrawide
idk

>>106358610
>assuming you're fine with upscaling
I'm not

>>106358596
umm *scratches head*

>>106358567
what games are you even playing? if you're playing unreal engine 5 then forget about it. metal gear delta looks worse than metal gear solid 5 and has a 60fps lock

attempting a build. I want something that'll be future-proof. mostly will be used for gaming/some streaming, and local AI dev.
budget was ~2000 yuros but did i go too far? i'm unsure about the motherboard in particular

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte X870 EAGLE WIFI7 ATX
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
Storage: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2 TB
Video Card: Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
Case: Fractal Design North ATX
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e

i'm based in europe

>>106358690
Modded Skyrim, Star Citizen, random games

>>106358692
you dont need a 5090 for those? those run on a fucking 6800xt which is 5 years old now.

>>106358696
>>106358703

>>106358703
>you dont need a 5090 for those?
well, you do need more than 12 GB VRAM for 4K+

sitting here watching the Amazon tracker, waiting for the last part I need to complete the build to arrive
needed a 90-degree adapter for the USB 3 motherboard connector, since the connector points to the side of the board, not up, and the front panel connection cable head is so long it impacts against the 140 mm fan right there (Y40 case) and without the adapter it will put torque on the connection and probably snap it off eventually
after part is here, I can install it, then do the cable management, and then start actually testing everything
I know no one cares, I'm just killing time bitching
/pcbg/ did help me a lot in part selection so thanks for that, everyone

>>106358711
you need 16gb at most which 6800xt came with 5 years ago

>>106358664
Then you need a 5090. Nothing else can handle 4k ultra wide native and have anywhere near decent FPS.

>>106358664
>I'm not
Then literally nothing will work for 4k 60. Seethe about it.

What UPS do I need for a 1200w power supply? They all are 900w and below.

>>106358692
>Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2 TB
Compare the price between that drive and the WD/Sandisk SN7100. Both are DRAMless drives.

>i'm unsure about the motherboard in particular
X870 if you plan to use USB 4.0, B850 if you don't need it.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am5.html
Eagle's Ethernet is limited to 1 x 2.5 Gb/s Ports (Realtek) if that matters to you.
MSI's B850 & X870 have 5 Gb/s Ethernet.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#m=8,18,27&c=169,166&sort=price&f=2&c0=2x10000-2x1000,2x10000-1x1000,2x10000,1x10000-1x5000,1x10000-1x2500,1x10000-2x1000,1x10000-1x1000,1x10000,1x5000-1x2500,1x5000-1x1000,1x5000

just ordered my viper elite ultra 6000s brvs feeling good

>>106358829
>UPS
Is this actually necessary to protect your system?

>>106358829
>UPS do I need for a 1200w power supply? They all are 900w and below.
How much power is your system drawing at max load?

>his refresh rate isn't equal to his resolution
laughingwhores.jpg

>>106358898
why the fuck would you need that much of hz rate thats excessive

>16gb vram
Let me guess, you need more

>>106358955
don't knock it till you've tried it

>>106358837
>Is this actually necessary to protect your system?
Yes?
>>106358846
I've already overloaded my 900w UPS and it shut down. I checked the battery and it's still good.

>>106358330
>glass front but mesh cut outs for fans blocking it
full fishtank already exist
this is a step backwards

>>106358955
more hz more clarity less input lag
but nobody needs it at 720p
literal ass dog shit

>>106358955
720 isn't enough, I need more

buy your expensive GPUs before august is over. price hike inc

source: my ass ;)

Is oled burn in an actual problem or just brokie cope?

>>106358327
Apparently tooth paste works if you turn it on for just a minute or two

>>106358569
>And then you actually have to be able to buy a 5070 super for msrp/close to msrp
This is what I dont get with the waitfags. Sure ill get a 5070 super or 5080 super, but realistically when can you expect to get one for MSRP? mid 2026 at best?

>>106359032
no anon you only need a hug from your future ai robot gf anon....

>>106358962
>Near OLED performance
no. only thing it has is more brightness

>>106359087
>Is oled burn in an actual problem
on a long enough time span sure

>brokie cope
still cope

>>106358837
Are you in a shitty us state where brownouts are often? Or are you in a turd world country where they cut off electricity every single day for few hours randomly ? Then yeah it is necessary. If you're in a developed country in yurop then no, electricity cuts are not common

>>106359087
It is if it's a tv. And if you're playing the same game every single day on your pc monitor

OLED shills fuck off for one single thread please

>$2000 pc tower
>1080p 60hz monitor
>no desk, folding table

Oh yeah, we're gaming

OLED is king

>>106359182
>shills
I objectively complain more about them
although related to software rather than hardware
for what purpose tho

Seriously bros what does this Intel Trump Goverment shit mean for us? Are they gonna be back? How is it fair that the US Gov is their biggest shareholder now? How is AMD going to compete in big contracts when US Gov can muscle people into buying Intel instead?

>>106359378
intel fabs still cant compete with tsmc. intel is so bad that not even intel uses intel. so the government has to use intel as a puppetshow that us fabs are still relevant.

>>106359378
Patriots are back in control of Intel. If you're not putting at least half of every paycheck into Intel you're literally retarded.

amd gpu purely for gaming
nvidia for gaming and some productivity
9070xt (less than $800) and 5070ti currently are the best cards for 1440p.
if you want 4k honestly wait for next gen

>>106359378
Trump told Intel CEO to go retire. Intel is basically done as a company after having three dead CEOs.

>>106359284
It's the only explanation that makes sense to me. Either that or it's a turbo autist(s) obsessed with monitors. Either way it's not organic posting and the last few threads have been lousy with it. I just dont understand the motivation of someone that's constantly pushing a product that has has substantially higher cost and real risks. It's all for our benefit and enlightenment? 10 seconds googling "best monitor" will already offer up 20 sites that suggest OLED for obvious shilling reasons. The people ITT also want to consider other options but it's always some goon replying "get an OLED".
>inb4 poor
I can buy 100 of them if I wanted to. And I very possibly will if prices come down

>>106359378
We just gradually start becoming more like China with state owned enterprises. Eventually, every serious business will need to give the feds a stake.

>>106358013
You need to check reddit for that, some people there have done it for 40 series, it should be similar for 50 series. One guy also just removed the connector and soldered the wires directly to PCB, which also fixed the issue.
>>106358055
Good luck with that, only 1000 units are being made, and you also need special expensive mobo and case

>>106359427
4k is already here you just gotta be smart about it. its 100% memory bandwidth bottleneck and people dont know what settings affect bandwidth besides resolution (dlss/fsr)

32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000

it's the ram I see the youtubers fall back to if they problems with others

>>106358830
thanks! i'll try to find a cheaper B850 then. don't really care about ethernet at all, but 2.5 should be more than plenty if i need it

>>106359454
>people dont know what settings affect bandwidth besides resolution (
Well what besides resolution or the memory slider maxed in afterburner helps with that?

>>106359527
it varies on the game. its either available in-game, only available in the engine.ini config, or needs to be forced through software like drivers/proton.

for example some modern AAA games have a vram usage meter, the lower vram usage means less bandwidth usage. but that meter may not even be accurate to begin with or they hide options like above. in a gacha these commands all affect bandwidth for example

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.StaticMeshLODDistanceScale=0.3
r.Kuro.KuroBloomStreak=0
r.SceneColorFringeQuality=0
r.Tonemapper.Quality=1
r.AmbientOcclusionMaxQuality=100
r.Shadow.RadiusThreshold=0.02
r.Shadow.MaxCSMResolution=1024
r.Shadow.MinResolution=1024
r.Shadow.PerObjectShadowMapResolution=1024
r.Shadow.PerObjectResolutionMax=1024
r.Shadow.PerObjectResolutionMin=1024
r.DetailMode=2
r.MaterialQualityLevel=1
r.KuroMaterialQualityLevel=1
r.ViewDistanceScale=2
foliage.LODDistanceScale=2
foliage.DensityType=2
r.Streaming.MinBoost=4.0
r.SSR.Quality=3
r.SSR.MaxRoughness=1.0
r.SSR.HalfResSceneColor=0
r.LightShaftDownSampleFactor=1
a.URO.Enable=0
HISMBatcher.Enabled=1
HISMBatcher.MaxPoolSize=512
Kuro.CppEffectSystem.UseLowMemoryPlayerEffectLruCapacity=false
r.Kuro.Foliage.GrassCullDistanceMax=25000
r.Kuro.NpcDisappearDistance=15000
wp.Runtime.SoraGridBlackListHeight=15000
wp.Runtime.OverrideMultipleRuntimeGridLoadingRangeValues=100&400&300&600&1500&4000&250&400&500&250&650&800&850&1250&90&120&150&250&80&280&200&200&1000&4000&75&120&200&900&1250
r.RayTracing.LoadConfig=0

>£1000 on the PC
not even chose a gpu yet...

>>106359527
If you're playing at 4k you dont need 16x af. just do 8x or 4x, you barely see difference but it alleviates memory bandwidth pressure a lot at higher resolutions.

>>106359432
nobody gets paid to shill here, everyone is just mentally ill or schizo posting
in terms of refresh rate oled has no competition, tons of oleds are cheaper or close to what overpriced lcds cost, monitor market is volatile and a meme

>And I very possibly will if prices come down
just buy the dip, first 4k240 I bought was 950€ when it was discounted last winter, when the pg32ucmd was 1600€
now we try the g80sd for 599€

>>106359492
you think?

I was gonna ask the ram schizos here if they think there is any validity to this schizotubers testing running xmp settings
seems completely wrong, did the ram train completely shit or what is up with this?

>>106359554
I am currently fighting my demons between cheaping out and getting a B650 or a B850 and then I already hit the 800 bucks, without storage and gpu

>>106359608
Pic2

I've decided on a 5070ti over the 9070xt simply because of the power consumption. much less power for about similar performance. Now I just need to find a brand that is nice cool and quiet too.

>>106359624
>Now I just need to find a brand that is nice cool and quiet too.
Avoid Zotac and PNY

>>106359629
I have the PNY card and the fans will literally never turn on if left to auto. Doesn't even get hot.

>>106359624
>Now I just need to find a brand that is nice cool and quiet too.
You won't be getting a MSRP card if you're anal about temps and noise. Just FYI

Where does the claim that vsync should be enabled globally and disabled ingame when using gsync come from?
How does this affect non-gsync displays that are "gsync compatible"?

>>106359624
Pny is quiet but you'll have to play the fan rattle lottery if you get one
MSI shadow and ventus have shitty coolers

>>106359223
That's me but with 1440p monitors, whole build is getting put in a loop here soonish. No plans for a real desk in the future.

I'm planning to build a new PC this winter but got stuck at the following problem:

I want to put a CPU cooler on a RTX 5080, I specifically had in mind the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE as it's a bang for a buck option. The problem is not the size fitment in the case but the TDP as the RTX 5080 is rated at 360W but the CPU cooler is rated at 280W.

My question is, is it still feasible to do this as the CPU cooler is a dual tower with two 120mm fans and therefore will be able to offload enough temperature when running stress tests and later gaming on it? And I mean in normal circumstances, not with the fans blowing full speed. The goal with putting the CPU cooler on the RTX 5080 is to lower the overall temperature of the components on the PCB and lower the fan noise and RPM to some degree aswell. This in theory then would also mean that it is extending the lifetime of the GPU (less rapid delta temperature swings).

I also know the VRAM and other components will need adequate cooling solutions, I'm now stuck at this step and don't know how feasible this project is.

I know that TDP also isn't a standardized measurement so the answer is even more unknown to my limited knowledge.

Do I REALLY need more than buildzoid's easy timings?

>>106359697
cursed post

>>106359697
Seems misguided
It'd make more sense to substitute the often shitty stock fans for noctua A12X25 G2 120mm fans and run those at 65% 24/7 for lowest temps and almost no noise

>>106359624
I've heard good things about the MSI Gaming Trio being the least audible card, but it's currently $100 dollars more than MSRP. I can't say from my experience since I have a 9070 xt

>>106359578
okay fine, here's my issue then.
I work from home, so my monitors are used for both work and personal. my job can be demanding and has periods of 12+ hour days, and sometimes I'll then switch to PC for a while, so we're looking at potentially 16 hours/day running the monitors, maybe 10% of the days per year. Minimum 8 hours/day on the monitors, pretty much every day.
What's my burn in risk here? and how quickly? I have taskbar on 100% of the time, spreadsheets, browsers, etc

If you had to pick between a Sapphire Pulse or a XFX Swift at around the same price which would you pick? The Swift has better temps overall but the Pulse has lower temps on the memory.

>>106359734
I get that Noctua fans are best of the best but A12X25 G2 is:
>not available in black (should be available by the end of Q4 2025 (supposedly))
>3-4x the price of the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE CPU cooler

Look at this comparison and see the graph of performance and noise lines and tell me why it makes sense to go for Noctua's CPU cooler.

https://pcanalytics.com/product/coolers/compare/thermalright/phantom-spirit-120-se/noctua/nh-d15-g2/cpu-7/

Temperature difference between the coolers is negligible and the noise difference is audibly noticeable.

>>106359697
Nigger rigging is fun and all but there's nothing to gain replacing the cooler unless you're adding a waterblock
Deshroud and strap big ass fans to it if you need more cooling.

>>106359831
oledniggers are going to tell you to buy an oled and use it as a secondary monitor with no static elements on it lol. Take the miniled pill, leave your spreadsheets on there all night as well.

>>106359154
Wrong

>>106359660
in-game vsync varies greatly. it can be double buffer, triple buffer, or some unique beast. some games let you change others dont. with driver vsync is always triple buffer and you want triple buffer for smooth presentation.

>>106359405
So if Im a big company I just need to make bad products so that the gibberment buys my literal shit© company stocks? Nice incentives there, asshat. Very patriotic

>>106359867
Then get arctic p12s or whatever
The point is that the stock GPU fans are almost always the cooling bottleneck, not the heatsink that comes with the GPU

>>106359873
yeah that's exactly what I've done, miniled VA primary and IPS secondary. but miniled was such an awakening and upgrade in picture quality that now I'm just curious what the step up to OLED could potentially be. then I look at the prices and the burn in risk and remember, fuck that kek. tempted to just ditch my IPS as well and go dual miniled. is miniled IPS any good?

>>106359909
Doesn't triple buffering add latency?
I recall when Deus Ex MD came out, I think it had the setting to use double or triple buffer Vsync. Triple buffering was smoother, but the added input lag made it nearly unplayable for me. But I'm hearing that basically enabling gsync + vsync there's next to no latency penalty as long as framerate is properly capped. I'm just wondering if essentially enabling vsync and triple buffering on NVCP -globally- would be a good idea.

>>106359918
>miniled ips
No idea, I read that the colors are worse. I'm probably going to do a bit of a monitor buying/returning spree here soon, see for myself if those higher end monitors really do anything over my cheap minileds.

>>106359918
Just to ease your mind: Individual miniled zones can also burn in just like individual oled pixels.

>>106359951
if you have a gsync/freesync/vrr display in general then vsync doesn't get activated until you exceed your refresh rate. if your fps is capped then this wont happen. the point of the vsync is to prevent tearing and judder because fps caps arent perfect and dont apply to every loop in the game engine chain like 3d render may be capped but 2d render is uncapped it depends on the fps cap you use.

>>106359608
>>106359620
those results are not valid
i'm not even gonna bother finding out why, people find a million different ways to fuck up their systems
>>106359713
no
but don't you want more?

>>106359958
nice. please report back
>>106359960
fine, I can get two of these minileds for the cost of one oled. risk adjusted return here

>>106359713
do trfc+trefi tweak. buildzoids ez timings do those too loose because he cant predict your case and kit.

>>106359975
On classical IPS secreens the whole screen burns in since its one big zone basically. But this can be corrected more easily with a colorimeter. On miniled and oled you need to pray that the engineers did a good job with the panel

7700 or 9600X?
Same price, occasional ansys and solidworks usage

>>106359982
Yeah just changing trefi alone gives big boost.

now stop asking about these gay cards. AI solved all your questions.

>>106360052
Why are you using chatgpt? It still calls the 4090 the best GPU

>>106360052
>AI running on Nvidia hardware prefers Nvidia
Shocker.
You're giving it the ultimate existential crisis.

>>106359982
>trfc+trefi
Where can I learn?

>>106358679
most ultrawides are 1440p pitch vs 4k pitch, 4k AND ultraside is about the highest res monitor you will see for years and really needs a 4090 or 5090. 1440p ultrawides are more in the 4070/4080/5070ti/5080 wheelhouse

>>106360096
ChatGPT scolded me for even implying that the 50xx series are real GPUs and not just rumors kek

>>106360136
500/50000 is fine
that's 1% of your memory cycles being lost to refresh
tRFC+tREFI is the easiest timing to tune (straightforward: add more, it goes faster) so that's why everyone think it's such a big deal

focus on getting primaries down and frequency up instead, tRC can probably tighten a good bit as well and that would be more impactful than increased tREFI
with your board and kit combination you might even be able to run 8000 in 2:1 mode, that would get it synced up with your 2000 FCLK and since you have dual CCD you would actually benefit from the increased bandwidth
but tuning for 2:1 mode is harder and you need to run stress tests for longer

shame that amd falls on PT applications which in practice means anyone who heard of "RT" and is interested in experiencing it themselves will buy 5070 ti instead for 50% better perf

what b850 board is the "best" for around 130-200 bucks? B650s are not gettng produced anymore so I am expecting a price hike soon and I can only afford my new parts in like 2-3 months.

>>106359831
>What's my burn in risk here? and how quickly?
100% risk over long enough time
how quick? quick
but more importantly what do we define as actual burn in, subjectively
just the smallest minimallest difference in uniformity on gray patterns?
where does the point of burn in happen that it's actually so bad that it makes the monitor unusable or untolerable? I don't know
yeah it seems kind of useless to use a oled as a pure productivity monitor
but say you only wanted to buy one monitor only would you avoid it generally just because of that? idk
buy two monitors if you want, buy one, idk
if you just look at spreadsheets yeah nothing more than a 60hz ips works
all seems subjective and too many variables
3 year warranty if you gonna cook your monitor so divided by three years minimum if you can cope with the cost
if I fry my oled I bought it would be 200€/year, is that too much for using 32" 4k 240hz qdoled? idk. is it?
idk

https://youtu.be/O2kPsKyF5bQ

>>106359873
>no static elements
I mean if it's only for entertainment and gaymes, except they have static elements too
you don't need oled for text documents

>>106359888
on what

>>106359973
>those results are not valid
it is on his testing lol
just seem extremely strange due to % low variance
makes zero sense

>>106360271
just get an msi tomahawk, or whatever msi/gigabyte board matches your cases colour scheme.

>>106360136
if its hynix a-die you can do 360-390 on trfc and 65k on trefi if they dont go over 50c in temp. if they're doing 60c (like your 500w gpu goes under load in games) then you pull it back to 40k.

>>106360271
Prices fluctuate too wildly to guess that far out, but I bet Gigabyte will release a new Aorus board once the 50xx series supers are officially announced around that price point

>>106360313
>it is on his testing lol
no it's not
don't just blindly accept everything you see on the internet as fact

to start with: it's a 9950X3D, presumably on windows 11, so you should always suspect OS and scheduling issues first
retest with 1 CCD active only

>>106360323
btw if its not hynix a-die it wont boot under 400 trfc

starting to regret choosing the NZXT H5 Flow as my case seeing as it has no dust filters, but shits on the way already so not much that can be done. Looked like a solid budget option, at least better than all the other stuff in the price range

>>106360218
probably because it uses a old data set, always say "do research" or similar at the beginning and it will scour the internet. Still, be careful of misinformation

>>106360374
Just get some magnetic dust filters to place over the intake fan locations, you'll stop the majority of the dust

>>106360397
heard that fucks up the cooling since the mesh is already too fine to prevent dust

>>106360251
nobody cares about PT or RT

Path Tracing and RT could be neat if ANY card could reach 150+ FPS stable in games, otherwise to me, it's unusable trash

>>106360357
>no it's not
still is, his testing
reading comprehension
>don't just blindly accept everything you see on the internet as fact
no such thing has been claimed

>to start with: it's a 9950X3D, presumably on windows 11, so you should always suspect OS and scheduling issues first
>retest with 1 CCD active only
makes sense, if the scheduler really is that shit that it can randomly bounce around and cause variations like this from test to test
very odd

>>106360444
beggars can't be choosers tho
poor people don't matter

>>106360444
thing not being the #1 priority doesnt mean it matters zero

Any gpu thats good at Path tracing already clears regular rendering just fine so noone needs to think about it.
Since PT is the bottleneck the the next gpu I buy needs to be cost effective at Path tracing since I know I get other stuff anyway.

If I was into buying cheap gpus then I would have to forgo PT and focus more on cost per frame + value add features like FG

>>106360017
Get more cores for productivity.

>>106360052
$549 9070, $599 9070 XT
Kek'd.

>>106360466
>>106360490
energy efficiency is way more important than rt/pt and rt/pt is the opposite of energy efficiency it puts your gpus power limit at 110% because it has to power the shader units and the rt cores.

>>106360444
You can make a point about frame generation, but RT is going nowhere.

>>106360505
your gpu costs like 0.2€ worth of electricity a day if you game every waking hour

>>106360466
>makes sense, if the scheduler really is that shit that it can randomly bounce around and cause variations like this from test to test
windows 11 is a broken garbage operating system
kills your SSD, kills your performance, etc
this isn't me trying to shill for linux or whatever
even windows 10 is way better, but soon you're gonna need windows 11 to play the latest slop

>>106360528
nigga if you dont care about energy efficiency then go use a 5090 or 3090 and see how hot your room gets

>>106360532
I'm not a performance fps schizo to care about w11 vs w10 enough
maybe if I needed to hit 800fps locked as the only goal
maybe

>>106360406
i did it to my antec flux pro, you can buy a roll of pvc dust screen mesh btw, face it the correct way and its fine, i hammered it into the frame of the front case literally, works a treat.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/236059405930

>>106360545
>inb4 AC
you also have to pay for AC and its not cheap

>>106360546
it's way worse than that
but i also have W11 because if i'm booting into windows it's because some slop requires it, and 10 reaches end of support soon
it's just funny to see benchmark scores randomly fluctuate 20% without me changing anything, just because the operating system is so broken

this guy is an NVIDIA driver engineer btw

>>106360589
its Jeet on Jeet violence eh? kek.

>>106360597
lmao i don't know if he's a jeet
but i've followed him for years and he's legit, just prefers to remain anonymous so he's not gonna put "works at NVIDIA" in his bio

>>106359094
Place a glass (not plastic, glass glass) of icewater on top of CPU.

>>106358327
reusable graphite pads + cooler duh

>>106360444
Doesn't matter, we're not going to see big jumps in raster performance ever again.

>>106360675
Rastering more polygons is pretty dump way to progress anyway. Costs way more to develop games with higher fidelity while the player hardly notices 50% higher budgets.
Path tracing reduces workload for devs + significantly enhances the visual experience for the player. It makes most sense for hardware to focus on by far.

>>106360251
5070ti isn't 50% faster in overdrive than a 9070xt, think more like 30-something. 9070xt would only be marginally slower than a 5070. The real issue for amd in path tracing as of right now is no ray reconstruction alternative.
Also the 9070, 5070, and 4070 are out of vram at 4k

>>106359960
>individual miniled zones can also burn in
this is incorrect according to chatgpt

>>106360723
16.6 fps is roughly 50% more than 10.6 fps

>>106359624
Wow, I guess there is someone who buys higher-end GPU’s based on power consumption. What, are you buying 20000 of them for a data center or why does it even matter? If you can afford thousands on a gaming PC, you can afford to pay your power bill, hopefully. I’d buy a 5070ti because its the best in its class only if it’s available for a good price ($900 US last I checked so no) and wouldn’t even worry about out power consumption.

>>106360739
dumbass the other cards are out of vram. Not like you can play at native 4k with any gpu.

Wait the 5070 Ti is also getting 24gb vram?

How am I meant t pick n AM5 motherboard? Which has the easiest bios and fastest boot times? Asrock? Asus? MSI? 9800X3D

>>106360810
avoid ASrock at all costs

>>106360589
>scheduler slop
this is why I won't buy dual core/ccd designs, or really, probably would not matter enough to care with the new intels and crap anyway

>>106360738
what is correct is you can burn in lcds also

>>106360845
doubt

>>106360781
Idk why you bring up vram
Its a comparison between 5070 ti and 9070xt
the ratios are similar on 1440p, except nvidia has an advatage for having better upscaler and better smoothing with 4x frame gen = if you want to play PT cp you buy 5070 ti

>>106360589
>Nov. 11 2024
Outdated, there have been major Windows updates & Intel microcode improvements.
Arrow Lake still sucks because the stock values are too conservative.
We'll see how Arrow Lake Refresh parts are tuned ootb, it'll be underwhelming either way.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intels-arrow-lake-fix-doesnt-fix-overall-gaming-performance-or-correct-the-companys-bad-marketing-claims-core-ultra-200s-still-trails-amd-and-previous-gen-chips

>>106360589
Tell that NVIDIA driver engineer to sort out their fucking driver overhead btw.

>open Jewfus stream
>it's another episode of him getting stunlocked by people and their comments and threatening to ban people and going on a schpiel about people being weird for 3 hours straight taking 50 piss breaks due to overdrinking piss juice then going offline with a bit of talk about tech inbetween
hardware releases drying up really made niggas like this
when he didn't do this on yt I never even got notifications of this shit going on
anyway

>>106360810
>fastest boot times
all of them should have a fast boot option that skips some optional checks to speed up POST
but anecdotally, the motherboard i've had with the fastest boot times was a gigabyte AM4 board
>>106360844
>this is why I won't buy dual core/ccd designs
the scheduler is still broken with single CCD chips or E-cores disabled
C-states are broken, power plans randomly refuse to apply
the whole operating system is being held together with duct tape
you don't understand how bad it is because you don't know anything else
(but yes, it does get even worse if you happen to have a 9950X3D and you have to deal with AMD drivers in addition to microsoft bullshit)
>>106360951
i could boot into windows 11 24H2 with my 14700K right now and point out a million different problems
it's just bad, sorry, nothing you can do to fix it
>>106360973
lol i'm pretty sure he works on AI now
but i agree
i'd guess they would have to do a major rewrite of their drivers to get rid of the overhead

Should I be getting only around 75fps at 4k in new world with a 9070xt with frame gen?

>>106361011
try using optiscaler to get fsr4 to work

Is modern hardware like R5 9600 + RTX 5070 good enough to just bruteforce notoriously shit PC ports from ~10-15 years ago into being fully playable at 60 FPS and Ultra settings?
Watch_Dogs from 2014 in particular.

>>106361011
Sounds wrong.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/new-world-performance-guide-best-settings-for-high-frame-rates/
https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-World-Performance-Analysis.568573.0.html

>>106361080
I guess the x3d cpus would have a leg up in those cases
idk, I dont play old games

Embarrassing that Nvidia came behind in the Nvidia Sponsored Game

>>106361080
>5070
anon....

>>106357676
Not as important as a 420mm ALF3.

>spend a bunch of time researching what to buy
>commit to the purchase
>suddenly find all the previously unknown issues with my chosen parts

inb4 amd will bring the new zen5 cpus in november i need that 9700x3d

>>106361080
Yeah sure. Plus, fwiw, said ports seldom gain much from high -> ultra so you can probably shoot for higher FPS.

Is it safe to use compressed air to clean a pc?

>>106361322
Get an air duster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ncYXk1cP4
There are also bigger ones.

>>106361322
Yes, and if you are a little apprehensive just stick something between the case/CPU fans as you are blow them out to prevent them from spinning up and sending an electrical charge back into the system.

>>106361200
sorry for being poor and not having another 300 euro to spare for a 5070Ti... I'll do better in the next samsara I promise
either way I think the 5070 is a much needed upgrade to my GTX 1660 Super and will let me play modern slop just fine at 1080p60 Ultra, or 1440p60 High with DLSS

>>106358330
Can't wait for retards to set it on their tile floor and shatter the whole fucking thing.

>>106361408
>acheron
Nice taste. Can't wait to cum to her to my 4k MiniLED thats pretty much as good as OScamled.

>>106359853

memory is strange it has optimum temperature that is not always lowest possible

>>106359853
they're more or less the same. whichever has a better design to your pc case.

$500 for 8 cores just feels bad
12 cores is $400 but is worse? make it make sense

>>106361514
one pristine gem vs 2 cracked gems

wait the 9800x3d is even better at emulation? what

Love me computer
Love me 9950x3d
Love me process lasso
simple as

>>106361573
what would you expect of the best cpu in the market

>>106361471
nta, but what 4k miniled did you get? I'm looking for one but I'm not sure on buying the older samsung and asus minileds.

>>106357735
Either AIOSlop or WHHHHHHRRRRRLLLL airlet

Anyways I like the new ping ping O11 v2, but god it's got shit thermals, can't fit enough rads. I'm thinking MORA400 is the way to go now. Anyone built one lately?

>>106361573
all 9000 series cpus support avx512. rpcs3 on windows sees a benefit from it. so do emulators compiled for x86v4 on linux.

>>106358252
>>106358242
very nice anon! That's a hard chip to delid. Good luck with your liquid metal!

>>106358326
Why are you not. Don't tell me you think dogshit AIOs or fan only cooling is good lmao

>>106358348
Anon can I ask why the 9950X3D, from what I read and was told here, the 9800X3D is simpler for gaymin because you don't have to that tool to pick cores.

Also let's see that Aquacomputer setup! Oh what block did you get for you new chip, or are you going to re-use your current?

Is there anything I should know before installing my 5090 tomorrow?
I got a RM1000x and it came with the weird cable, I was going to use that. Was going to set the GPU to power save mode, and lock the fps to my refresh rate, 144hz.
Running arch linux, I will make sure I'm updated to whatever is latest nvidia proprietary drivers.
I will put it in the PCI-e 5.0 slot where my 3070 ti is. I'll put the 3070 ti into an old rig.
I mainly brought it so I could load local llm so I'm not to worried about the cable melting thing. I will occasionally play games and thought I would just lock the fps to prevent it getting too hot.

>>106361684
>I mainly brought it so I could load local llm so I'm not to worried about the cable melting thing. I will occasionally play games and thought I would just lock the fps to prevent it getting too hot.
Cable melting is a meme for idiots who don't plug it in all the way. If you're worried get the thermal grizzly thing that has the temp sensor that can alarm/shut stuff off.

>>106361609
BenQ EX321UX

>>106361650
>reading comprehension

So right now the best strat is to wait for the 5080 Super and OC it so maybe it reaches 4090 level?

>Uncle gives me an old iMac they salvaged from his job
>it's from 2009
>literally so old the browser has stopped working and can't connect to most websites (youtube doesn't work, couldn't even find help on reddit because the site doesn't work either)
>can't upgrade it to macos 10.11 el capitan (the last supported version on that PC) because it can't connect to the app store and update
just want to say I hate apple

>>106359960
>Individual miniled zones can also burn in just like individual oled pixels.
>>106360738
>this is incorrect according to chatgpt
>>106360844
>what is correct is you can burn in lcds also
You have to really try burn in an LCD. But the miniled claim is for the backlight. LEDs will slowly decrease in brightness with use. Especially if they're overdriven. However, in a worst case you're looking at low tens of thousands of hours before any decrease would become noticeable. Even then I'm not sure you'd see it since it's still behind the actual screen.
If you ever see an "L70" number quoted on a light bulb or light fixture, that's the time to reach 70% of its initial brightness. This value is typically 50,000+ hours.

>>106361722
it won't be 4090 level
it will be a 5080 with more VRAM that is it

I fucking hate modern computers.

Built mine 5 weeks ago after not upgrading for ages due to Windows 11 compatibility (I know I could've just patched the installer but well...)

>Ryzen 9 9900X
>64GB DDR5
>2TB PCIe4 SSD
>RTX 5070 Ti

and this piece of shit is giving nothing but problems. Random bluescreens, Chrome crashes while watching youtube (STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION) etc. all on a fresh Windows 11 install

I am running on all stock settings, I only enabled EXPO on the RAM to 6400, but this was super unstable, then down to 5600, now I am at 4800, and it still bluescreens occasionally, but much less. Probably going on 4400 next

My old i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX 1080 worked absolutely perfectly for 8 years. I never even had to enter the BIOS once

The worst part is the performance benefit is not even barely noticeable.

>>106361713
AIO slop confirmed kek.

>>106361742
it'll have more power draw too

>>106361754
it's actually an air cooler you illiterate retard

>>106361753
post full specs

>>106361753
I hear you anon. same boat

>>106361753
you put the RAM sticks in the wrong slots

>>106361753
You got lucky. My shitbox has been giving me daily random bluescreens for years now. I've just learned to not care.

>>106361726
I've got one of those I was using for an xcode build server. You can upgrade it, there's a script or something that let me get to the latest version. It also goes okay with a SATA SSD and DDR3 laptop ram, change the thermal paste while your in there. They thermal throttle hard for anything other than web browsing though.

>>106361753
What RAM are you using?

>>106361765
Ryzen 9 9900X
MSI X870 Tomahawk WIFI
Kingston Fury Beast 64GB DDR5-6400CL32
Crucial T500 2TB
MSI RTX 5070 Ti Gaming Trio OC (this is not the problem because I had the same issues while the PC was already built and I used the iGPU while waiting for it to arrive - and before you ask, yes I did completely reinstall Windows AGAIN after getting the new GPU to avoid any leftover drivers)
>>106361772
already checked thrice

>>106361753
>I am running on all stock settings, I only enabled EXPO on the RAM to 6400, but this was super unstable, then down to 5600, now I am at 4800, and it still bluescreens occasionally, but much less. Probably going on 4400 next
Update your BIOS if you haven't and then try 6000Hz.

>>106361753
try linux

>>106361341
Damn these things are crazy

>>106361843
>>MSI X870 Tomahawk WIFI
oh god that's the board I'm looking to buy

>>106361871
I just did a build on on one, it's working fine

>>106361843
get g skill 6000 ram
anything above 6000 on am5 is a crapshoot

>>106361877
well i already got the RAM and as I said I'm already down to 4800
I'm willing to go even lower to get a stable system because in the end it doesn't fucking matter anyway, there is litterally no difference between the 6400 mode and the 4800 mode at least none that I could notice

>>106361871
I just put an x870e tomahawk in, happy with it

>>106361891
That RAM is on the compatibility list. Are you positive they're in the correct slots?

>>106361871
I think the entire platform has problems, I got the Asrock 870 steel legend wifi and there is something not quite right about how the USB 2.0 controllers start up at system boot. I'm also comparing notes with a guy with the same board and he can turn his PC off and then on but cannot use restart. Honestly its exactly why I went from bulldozer to skylake, amd just never got it quite right. Trouble is intel is absolute trash at the moment, especially on linux.

>>106361924
>Are you positive
yes

>>106361891
post zentimings screenshot
there's no way 4800 wouldn't work
>>106361952
>especially on linux
elaborate

>>106361963
isnt it usually 2/4 and not 1/3?

>>106362006
>>there's no way 4800 wouldn't work
if the ram is faulty it won't
he should either go down to one stick for a while for testing or just buy a new pair

>>106362025
yeah or the CPU
or the board
lol

>>106361963
Is the BIOS up to date?
>>106362013
Manual says A2/B2. >>106361924

stories like this really make me reconsider if getting the 265K is worth it I'd sacrifice performance for stability

>>106362051
AM5 is an old platform by this point
if there were widespread stability issues you would know about them
like you already know about the asrock issues, i would definitely avoid those boards

>>106362080
It's just weird the new chipsets seem to have more problems than the old ones

>decide i want a nice pc for family and for gaming
>research a little bit for built pcs
>realize the sum of parts do not constitute the price
>alright is building really that ha-
>its literally just fucking Legos, i thought you needed like a soldering iron and shit
>normies instantly think im a tech genius
>my pc is better than 85% of gamers
also its cool as fuck. after doing this i wish i did mechanical engineering

>>106362098
not really
higher transfer rates, more I/O, silicon being pushed harder out of the box, etc
intel had the luxury of giving you lots of headroom for about a decade while AMD was busy eating glue

>>106362051
i had similar issues with a 285k
these high end RAM kits are pieces of shit
you need to massively downclock them, I guess RAM is not meant to run that high or the IMCs of these CPUs can't properly handle them or something
if you drill into detail in also the tech support forums, in the end lots of people consider "occasional bluescreens" fine as long as they are less than daily, but that's not OK for me

>>106362117
>i wish i did mechanical engineering
Engineering is one of those things that's a lot more fun as a hobby unless you have the right kind of 'tism to let it consume your life.

Im in the middle of building my first PC and I got this (Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3 70.84 CFM CPU Cooler) and it only shipped (presumably accidentally) with 3 fan clips instead of the 4 it's supposed to have (pointed to in pic related). Am I really just fucked because they're too retarded to put in the amount I was supposed to get? Can I just contact their support and get the fourth one I was supposed to get?

what should i upgrade?

cpu: Ryzen 5 1600 AF
ram: ddr4 2x8gb
mb: B450M
gpu: 3080

>>106362117
building a PC has about as much to do with MechEng as pinning roids has to do with being a doctor

>>106362226
Either contact them or exchange it for a new one wherever you bought it.
>>106362238
CPU > RAM > MB = GPU

>>106362259
>building a PC has about as much to do with MechEng as pinning roids has to do with being a doctor
so it actually makes you much better at it than the normie professional, got it

>>106362226
are you sure you checked the box properly

>>106362226
>Can I just contact their support and get the fourth one I was supposed to get?
Should be able to, shoot them an email (maybe attach a screenshot of your order invoice) and in the meantime just secure the otherside of the fan to the heatsink with zipties/rubberbands). Or do a return/exchange to where you got it from.

>>106362238
Flash the BIOS for your specific motherboard to the latest BIOS and get a 5700X or 5800X /5800XT

>>106362307
which is the best out of these?

>>106361670
you dont have to use the tool anymore although you can, the windows scheduling has gotten better for games

running a thermal grizzly mycro pro direct die block on it

>>106362325
The 5800 XT

>>106362117
your pc is shit when you compare it to the 3dmark pcs. not even talking about top leaderboards, just the upper range where people oc their shit and its like so much faster than base.

An ATX or Dual chamber chasis that does not has any gas fag glass, i hate the glass thing.

Also motherboard recommendations? I plan to install 98 ram for heavy data processing but I don't plan to spent too much on it due to DDR6 coming in around 1-2 years.

>>106362338
right... which is why i said 85% of gamers, because i dont care about beating morbidly obese or skeletal BO stinking chinese people at fps shooters. my rig is fine

>>106362300
Yep, I looked in the package and there was only 3
>>106362301
I already installed the heatsink with thermal paste already so it'd be ideal to just get the one I need because they're fucking retarded scammers
THEY DONT EVEN FUCKING RESPOND ON WEEKENDS SO NOW I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY

>>106359427
amd gpu is fine for productivity or is productivity just generating ai images or what? video editing, programming, audio/music work, art, encoding which is done on cpu to maximize quality

>>106359182
>OLED shills fuck off for one single thread please
the burn in sucks but the fact is that OLED gives best picture possible. great screens for rooms with full control over lighting.
there are good ways to avoid burn in and it generally isn't an problem unless you're blasting your screen at 100 brightness all the time

>>106362474
Several of those things can be offloaded to the GPU. And despite what people think, a lot of it isn't even CUDA dependent. FFmpeg supports both AMD and Nvidia encoding accelerators, for example. But Premiere/Resolve, Photoshop/ Affinity Photo, AutoCAD and so on all support GPU acceleration for various tasks. Though some software like Blender is massively faster when rendering on Nvidia hardware. It really depends on what software you use and whether it requires CUDA or will run with something like OpenCL.

>>106362474
CUDA mogs

Do we really need pathtracing to get shadows in 2025?

>>106362595
thats final render. 90% of your work is in workflow. 10% is the final render.

>>106362601
in 2025? yes

>>106362345
Meshify 3 solid side panel variant.
B850 ASUS TUF, MSI Tomahawk, or Gigabyte Aorus Elite for the motherboard.
You can get cheaper boards.

>>106362601
Maybe, maybe not.
It doesn't really matter what your opinion is either way because heavy rt implementations/"Path Tracing" are going to be the baseline in not too much longer. Even on consoles Mike Cerny or whoever has on at least one occasion said they want it on the gaystation 6

>>106362601
Wtf, you get shadows, more realstic lightning in exchange for loss of details?

>>106361753
Update the board BIOS to the latest stable version; some of them have memory stability improvements.

>>106362917
The whole cooler is $35 on Amazon. So that's a lot to spend for something that should have been in the box.

>>106362944
Can't put a price on time. How soon do you think Thermalright will send you those fan clips?
I guess you could return it and buy another one like the other anon suggested.

I'm not the poster with the issue. Just pointing out that it's a very cheap cooler. But if it were me I'd use bent paper clips on the corners as a quick fix while waiting.

I'm getting harmonious humming from the 3 fans on my 360mm AIO. Does anyone sell a 4-pin fan rpm reducer that only lowers the fan by 50rpm or so? The only reducer adapters I'm seeing cut the rpm down by 30%

>>106362333
what's that red goop

>>106363013
Arctic? Just lower the pump/fan rpm.

All 3 fans are on a single Y-splitter. It's pretty obvious these cables are just a 4-pin extender with a resistor, so maybe it's easy enough to create your own

>>106363184
All 3 fans are on a single Y-splitter. It's pretty obvious these cables are just a 4-pin extender with a resistor, so maybe it's easy enough to create your own

9950x3d + 5080
Good idea, bad idea?

Why is the "31" inch 4k predator going for so relatively cheap still? Seems like a good monitor.
>160hz
>IPS
>free sync
>4k
>>106363292
Aside from the 9950x3d having a couple of issues due to its cpu architecture - would be a higher tier combination.

>>106363013
I don't get it, can't you control their speed from your mobo anyway?

>>106363285
My Arctic aio is daisy chained together and I keep the fans at a static rpm to prevent the whine noise. The fans only ramp at 80c.

>>106359223
I had that but finally got a flexispot and an OLED and now my tower , desk and monitor are in perfect harmony

Any recommendations for hard mousepads that aren't fuckhuge? With rounded/chamfered edges too, preferably.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optimized-Friction-Non-Slip-Accessories/dp/B0BHMK6B2X?th=1

I tried this POS in picrel and it sliced open my pointer finger with no issue, simply from trying to reposition it on my desk. The plastic on top of the rubber is so damn thin that I don't think sanding it down will even help prevent it from cutting me again, and I'm not keen on taking sandpaper to it and having scuffs all over the edge of it. Ideally around the same width, 340mm x 280mm (or 11 x 13 to 14 inches)

Retardedly sold my desktop a few years ago to go laptop only but want to get back in the game, how does this build sound for a budget of ~$1k

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7600x
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1tb
Video Card: Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5060 Ti
Case: LianLi A3
Power Supply: Corsair CX650m

Goal is something I won't need to upgrade for the next 5-7 years or so for 1440p med-high settings

>>106363365
did you try the 3m one?

>>106363366
You want to look at 5070 super that release soonish, decent enough perf + 18gb vram

the mobo seems cheap? No wifi?
9600x
get a 2tb nvme
750w psu

>>106363391
I have an ethernet jack right under my desk so wifi isn't terribly important, trying to cut corners and save where I can without going full budget build

>>106363436
its useful if you say want to use the pc as a wifi hotstop to send internet to a phone or tablet

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dY3BBq

Thinking of upgrading from my 3700x for map games mostly, basically the only niggle is my motherboard choice feels insane that AM5 is just stupid expensive, but I do want to move to a 9800X3D at some point

9070 xt or 5070 ti for 200$ more?
1440p gaymin

>>106363501
5070 ti has dlss transformer model
4x frame gen
50% better path tracing perf
dlss is more widely supported vs fsr4

The budget OLEDS costing around 400-600 range is a good price if you want it. In the worst case scenario you have to replace it within 3 years or sooner which your warranty should cover. If 400-600 is hard to dispose if in 3 years you got other problems

>>106363521
tru
now it can be worth it to buy miniled with 1k+ zones
no need to care about changing your habits, no automatic brightness limiter, its much brighther in general

>>106363501
for $200 obviously no, the only real difference is path tracing which is a huge meme

>>106363501
>9070 xt or 5070 ti for 200$ more?
Is $200 more worth a 5% perf uplift to you?

>>106363493
Pretty hard call desu anon.

If you're a map autist, X3D makes a big difference. Different between 5800X3D and 5800X in Hearts of Iron is like 20%-30%.
But, the problem is that the cheapest X3D is still like twice the price of the CPU you've listed here.

>>106363521
I don't bring in a crazy amount but I basically have 1800 of expendable money every two weeks and I still wouldn't be happy about getting a monitor that would be disposed of in just 3 years.

>>106361753
> Random bluescreens, Chrome crashes while watching youtube (STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION)
MCP/MCTS here.
This only has 3 causes
1: Your Windows 11 install is corrupt.
2: Your RAM is faulty or unstable.
3: Your Motherboard UEFI is out of date, and is causing memory and/or cache instability

>>106363561
>motherboard UEFI is out of date
That's a thing?

>>106363547
And that's basically the issue, if I'm spending £300 anyway, I may as well get onto AM5, sure I lose two cores, but the IPC increase alone would half the simulation times according to GN

>>106363571
yes?

>>106363590
Oh bios update.

>>106363595
Motherboards rarely use BIOSes anymore, they are all United Extensible Firmware Interfaces now, with CSMs to emulate the older BIOS subsystems.
Motherboard manufacturers are just lazy/don't want to confuse consumers by changing the wording. The manual funnily enough calls it a "UEFI BIOS".

>>106363588
If you're properly hard up for money, Scan and Paypal offers some pretty decent finance options without interest as long as you pay within a particular timeframe, but obviously be aware of what you're getting into when you take on debt for a computer.

But, going straight the 9800X3D should be cheaper in the long run rather than buying an intermediate CPU and upgrading later.

>>106363658
I'm not hard up for cash per se, I just don't know whether it'd be wise to add it further on top of what I already have, of which is almost paid off don't get me wrong. But I kind of want to get it boxed out of the way now as I can feel half of the issues I'm having.
It'd be a massive plus for PS3 emulation as well on top of map games, just whether it'd be worth spending £200~ is a bit much for me.

>>106363616
this information is of zero value to the average user

>>106363616
>The manual funnily enough calls it a "UEFI BIOS".
I thought UEFI just referred to the means of which you interact with it so that's some new information to me.

>>106357574 (OP)
Curious as to why this KTC brand is recommended in the OP, barely any reviews on them.

>>106363616
BIOS sounds way cooler than UEFI, this is why

>>106363865
>barely any reviews on them.
They're selling some good monitors, KTC an in-house brand of an OEM.
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27p6-review/
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27t6-review/

I would pay a bit extra for the Strix XG259CS 1080p IPS monitor.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mny8TW/asus-rog-strix-xg259cs-245-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-xg259cs

>>106361080
watch dogs wasn't that bad even on hardware of the time

>>106360545
the 5090 isn't even inefficient

>>106364156
5080 has 20% better perf/w than it so it kinda is

>>106364114
im ordering both KTC miniled monitors off amazon right now since theres a $50 coupon for each. will be returning if they suck

>>106364176
One anon really liked the KTC 4K IPS miniLED, he's using two of them.
GL w the panel lottery and all that.

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Should I get a 1440p 240hz ips or save an extra month to get a cheap 1440p 240hz oled?

>>106364238
OLED if you're going to use the existing screen as a secondary for productivity.
There are going to be good monitor discounts towards the end of the year.

>>106357735
>liquid cooling is cringe and gay
So is your dad now fuck off cunt

>>106361641
>like the new ping ping O11 v2, but god it's got shit thermals
No it doesn't stop being a lying faggot