Thread 106364218

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

does anyone dislike anything about their OLED?

I wish women were more into computers maybe I wouldn't be so nervous around them

>>106364237
3 year warranty

>>106364250
>I wish men were more into fashion maybe I wouldn't be so nervous around them

best cpu for feet fans?

>>106364237
oled is dumb. if you get oled, I'm freeing serial killers from prison and giving them your address.

>swap PC over to new case
>push my 4090 too hard into the socket and hear a loud crunch
>don't get any display signal from my 4090 anymore
>everything works when I swap to a different GPU

RIP my 4090 bro's that 5080S needs to release this year.

>>106364309
from what I've seen, the majority of fashion designers are men

>>106364310
12900KS is the fastest and last core i cpu that wasnt completely disastrous

>>106364319
post damage

>>106364319
try the CARD in another mobo your retarded N word (Nebraska)

>>106364322
men like making fashion but not consooming it unlike women

>>106364319
chances are that its still worth $2000 no questions asked because of chinese AI modders

>>106364344
what's up with ebay? new is getring cheaper than ebay these days

>>106364360
ebay has better reach than many e-retailers do so the chinese and easily buying up the supply from ebay

>>106364237
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1dhvxy1/vibrating_vertical_lines_occurring_on_all_3rd_gen/
It doesn't happen all the time, but you'll notice it from time to time.

>>106364360
I recently sold my old video game console on ebay.

Dude, it's so fucked. They charge a 13% value fee to sellers in technology category. I also encounter some ebay personnel as part of my regular job, and their staff are jeets 80% of the time.

The jeets have learned to be jewish

>>106364415
>They charge a 13% value fee
ok this sucks, where to go? unworkable. no wonder the prices are retarded.

whats the difference between the Phantom Spirit 120 SE and the Peerless Assassin 120 se v3. Im struggling to find any info on that or the V3 itself

>>106364486
craigslist

16 gigs is enough vram on a gpu for gaming

>>106364486
If you're looking to buy electronics, somehow newegg is still decent, despite the tariffs.

There's also Microcenter, of course.

For used, Facebook/Meta marketplace in your area might be alright.

I think a few YouTubers like Scattervolt, Jarrod'sTech, ToastyBros, and probably a few other pc tubers (pcbuilder?) have websites that keep track of pc gaming deals. Granted, they might not be that crazy of a savings since they probably make some money from the links on their sites

Am I supposed to install the CPU cooler before or after putting the motherboard in the case?

>>106364548
you can always do it afterwards since you need to be able to remove the cooler once the pc is built

>>106364535
8gb is enough

>>106364548
I like to connect all cables first before installing the cooler especially on air coolers which blocks the socket area

>>106364322
Yeah, men that like men

>>106364548
Be sure to install your RAM first

yay nay? i really just want fast compile times and lots of virtualization.

I'm on some other hardware tech forums and they say that they bought the 9800X3D but aren't impressed with it and that their 285K is better and they don't get stutters in games or frame drops or stability problems with it

I don't know what to believe any more

>>106364679
why half-ass it, get 64gb dimms

>>106364548
cases typically have a cutout for the backplate nowadays so it doesn't really matter

>>106364548
always, just to make sure you connected everything properly. when in case it can be more finicky

>>106364682
what is this, the userbenchmark forum?

Ordered an WD_BLACK 8TB NVMe. I'm sick of always running out of space and having to deal with slow-ass external drives. Cant' wait for it to arrive!
Anyone else bought a large NVMe?

how cheap will high hz monitors be in 2026/2027?

>>106364682
The only thing they forgot to do is to disclose that intel is their employer

>>106364722
I have that drive since a year ago
No issues to speak of yet

>>106364727
About as cheap as they are today

>>106364722
Just the 4TB version of that, enjoy your storage anon

>>106364679
Get two 64gb dimms like other anon suggested
4 dimms on am5 works poorly and should be avoided unless you need more than 128gb of ram

>>106364733
>I have that drive since a year ago
>No issues to speak of yet
Based. I did just a cursory scan of reviews and didn't see much negativity. It has a 5 year warranty which is great (many are only 3 years).
>>106364737
>Just the 4TB version of that, enjoy your storage anon
Very nice. I was debating 4 vs 8TB and bit the bullet on 8 so I don't have to worry about space. I think 4TB would have been sufficient too. Oh well.

Games are getting bigger and bigger so I hope this lasts me a while.

I have a 2TB Samsung NVMe and I'm constantly having to delete shit to make some space. Annoying.

>>106364765
always get the biggest drive you can

>>106364783
always get two half size of that

My PC randomly goes black screen with no signal while boosting my GPU fan to max, I have used 3 different GPU's in my setup and it's happened to all 3, could it be a PSU issue or a MOBO issue?

>>106364535
Is 16 enough for 4k?

>>106364510
Phantom Spirit has an extra heat pipe (7 vs 6), Peerless Assassin V3 has newer fans.

thinking about feet (Gnome 2), and amd

>>106364898
>Is 16 enough for 4k?
Yes absolutely

>>106364682
ask them abouth their early life
also unless you specify the place (either /v/eddit or >>106364719) theres no point in posting this
to put it into perspective, not even the anti-amdnigger itt was dumb enough to go intel

>>106365142
Seriously? Nta but I've heard a lot of people cry that 24 isn't enough.

>>106365245
>people
shills

>>106364826
let me just change the three 8tbs to six 4tbs... oh

>>106364765
fyi the 8tb is slightly different since it uses a newer gen kioxia BiCS6 nand compared to the 112L SanDisk nand used on the 1tb to 4tb versions

>>106364864
psu is a common issue. mobo less so

>>106364783
always get the biggest wife you can

>>106365394
>newer gen kioxia BiCS6 nand
Thanks for the info. Had no idea. Very cool tech.

I know this is a PC building thread, but...

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-pro-max-18-plus-laptop/spd/dell-pro-max-mb18250-laptop/xcto_mb18250_usx?redirectTo=SOC

I'm looking to get a laptop that can be considered to some degree as "workstation", but are there better options? Especially without retarded prices and AI-memery.

>Usecase
3D game development. GPU is not a big concern, but high-end CPU is a must.
>Budget
~2500 euros, but as long as price/value ratio is good.
>Country
Moving to Spain

>>106364319
RMA it paypig. Also why the fuck would you bother transferring the same pc to a new case? retarded goyim.

>>106365639
>only intel ultra 5
>only integrated graphics
>only 1x16GB stick of ddr5
>FUCKING ONLY 512GB of storage, in this day and age
>$3649.00 starting price
Holy fucking shit, even Apple would blush at these prices for that dogshit of performance. Gaymer laptops unironically would make more sense at that price point.
I don't know much about laptops in this regard, but I think they are slightly better of in terms of upgrading these days, maybe. Just look around with something with a decent amount of ram and that lets you upgrade storage. You don't need an amazing mobile gpu, but still something competent. I can't imagine something with around a 5070, 2TB of storage and at least 32gb of ram with a good CPU should cost more than $2500 euros/~$3000

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/c/laptops/legion-laptops/

These Lenovo ones are far better in specs for way less money, if you can get them in your region. I legit didn't know Dell was THAT bad with pricing, but then again they are the ones that own Alienware, and they've always been highway bandits in that way. The 1TB of storage still isn't great, but at least better than fucking 512GB. The ram isn't as fast, but 16gb is a pitiful amount. Modern web browsers are almost all built the same way Chrome is (poorly), and easily 25-50% of that ram could be saturated by a browser at any given point, especially if it's playing media like YouTube.

>>106364319
Post it, faggot.

>Turn off pc
>Turn it back on
>PC starts posting for 0.5s then turns off as if the plug was pulled

Wtf is the problem? Impossible to troubleshoot as sometimes it will post normally then other times it won't.

>Update and or reset bios
>Everything works fine
>Next time, same problem

Is it my RAM? Is it software? Chatgoyim says it can be ram sometimes, psu or motherboard other times.

7800x3d
Asus b650 plus wifi
Phanteks Amp ph 1000w
Kingston fury 6000mhz cl36 64gb

>aymd 7800kek3d
Here is your problem.

>>106364218 (OP)
r8 my new rig

Would there be a huge performance difference going from an i5-6600k, gtx 1060 6gb to a 7800x3d, 9060 xt?

>>106366094
Yes, it will be colossal difference. But do you really need it? I doubt.

>9950x3d is really good and I'd like to buy it but it feels like a waste to pay all that money for a cpu that will be significantly outperformed by what amd releases in 2026 (since moar cores, better note)
>what will be released in 2026 is kinda neat but it's the last release before DDR6, which is a yuge speedup, especially with CAMM2, so maybe I should wait until 2027
waitfagging is a disease

>>106366091
>7900xtx
lol
>4x 16gb
lmao

>>106366111
they're even refreshing the 9950x3d this year with a dual v-cache variant
also zen7 is rumored to be on am5 now so the socket still has a long way to go before ddr6 becomes a thing

>>106366124
Just wait until you die then you don't have to do anything

Day4 waiting on delivery of G80SD
>No shipment movement since Friday (eu wagies lazy fucks)
>No delivery on weekends (Eu wagies lazy fucks)
BEZOS HELP

>>106366111
No one needs more. Over-consuming is bad for your mental health and wallet.

>>106366104
Maybe? I'd like a new rig at this point and more fps would be nice on my games.
Still deciding a little bit, if the improvement is worth the money.

>>106366151
Listen a man, who wasted a lot of money on pc hardware. It is not worth.

>>106366094
9060XT 16gb is around 3x faster, but you’d only need to use a 7600X or 9600X with it

>>106365639
thats the most overpriced, worst piece of shit i've ever seen. WTF are Dell doing releasing that for over $1500????? you're clearly retarded. Go to your favourite AI, Grok is free, and ask for a recommendation based on your budget. Unbelievable moron, im not doing your homework for you, if you're gonna scam yourself, do it on your own time.

The solutions are painfully obvious but you came here to be retarded, why...

>>106366214
the X3d is more future proofed, and certain games will perform smoother with it. Its much easier and simpler to update a cheap gpu than a cpu, which usually requires a new mobo and ram at the very least. It makes perfect sense to buy a shitty gpu right now, and a relatively higher-end system for the rest of the components. Stop telling people to jew out at the wrong components, buying high-end gpus is ridiculously stupid to do right now unless you're the most retarded of goyim and paypig for a 90series.

>>106364237
The top issues are the bad firmware implementations and pixel refresh if it has FORCED scheduled restarts if you run your panel for too long (16h+), the problem here being the counter being bugged, the panel not going into pixel refresh some times when idling, which means it may trigger after 1 hour when you start your monitor after resuming doing something, regardless it is a dog shit implementation to even have regardless how it works, I don't like it, I will never buy any display that behaves like this
Other issue is random black screening that gets blamed on monitor firmware/hardware/nv drivers/windows/cabels/overheating monitors/i dont fucking know
I don't care or have seen much of any other issues as annoying as these

>>106364682
makes no sense

>>106364722
one of the only few 8tb drives barely any new ones coming into market that are also good priced
seems pointless to buy faster nvme since it does not even matter for gaming either

>>106364898
you are locked into 90-series, Jensen sends his regards

>>106361732
>You have to really try burn in an LCD.
I never really tried and it happened to mine before and you had a guy other threads ago that started getting burn in or image retention hard on his 5 year old lcd or something

>>106362474
>there are good ways to avoid burn in and it generally isn't an problem unless you're blasting your screen at 100 brightness all the time
I saw a report of a guy running his brightness near bottom and got burn in after 2 years, but only in gray patterns

>Dunno if I wanna get the 9950X3D or just the 9800X3D
>8 vs 16 core bothers me a little.
>9950 doesn't even have the X3D secret sauce on the other 8 cores.
>But I do a bit of productivity work, and it might make sense.
>It's only a couple hundred quid premium...

I guess I feel like those extra 8 cores will sometimes come in handy and that will over time add up to about the difference in value?
I don't know, I feel like I'm monkey brained over it and just seeing that the number is bigger therefore it must be better. Realistically, the 9800X3D is still great, and if I need more, I can upgrade down the line or something.

>27" MSI MAG 275QF
>27" Samsung Odyssey G5 G50D
>23.8" AOC Q24G4RE
Which way, poorfag 1440p man?

I want to get a mx master 3s because it's relatively silent and feels quite good in my hand. However I've read it's not that good for gaming. I'm not doing anything competitively, but is it really as bad as people say? I also considered the g502 x but it has loud annoying switches

>>106366091
>Unit 8200 cpu
>7900xtx

If you're just gaming, a 9070xt is a better buy. Get rid of the Isratel CPU too bro. Lmao

I'm spending about $3000 total on my upgrade.

More realistically I'm using it to shitpost on 4chan.

Completed it on Intel Arc. Music is well done.
>>106366475
The way you going to local store and pick wich is better.

>>106366544
>local store
I went to EVERY local tech store and all they have is 24 inch 1080p garbage. None of them have any 1440p IPS monitors. There was one, VA panel, but it was ~100-150 euro more expensive that what online stores ask for the three IPS models I listed...

>>106364218 (OP)
whats the deal with asrock motherboard ?
i just realized i ordered asrock b850m-x wifi for my ryzen 9 7900 (non-x).

am i fucked ? should i just return it ? what else can i get with wifi that with good vrm heatsinks for 120€ ?

>>106366527
>spend several thousand dollars on a PC
>use it to emulate 30-35 year old video games, look at anime tits and call people various slurs online
I'm pretty sure it's normal

>>106366596
if you can't call out jeets and joos on 4chud in 4k120 why even live?

>>106366566
it's joever for you cpu if you keep it

>>106366611
Only the 9000 series are affected.

>>106366566
Don't listen to the guy telling you to cancel the order. 7000 series CPUs are fine.

>>106365639
>45 bucks for ubuntu linux
I kneel..

>>106366391
price difference here is 200 eurobux
if you know you need more cores for productivity it makes sense, negative is you dealing with scheduler for games some times
if it comes down to it you can totally disable ccd in bios if you want and its essentially a 9800x3d, but probably wont come to that, just disable other ccd in windows during game and it should probably be fine?
if you can already afford a 9950x3d it's not like 200 bux is gonna impact your build at all
just buy a 9950x3d and try it out
if it was 100% gaming it would be useless yes just get a 9800x3d then

>>106366475
are you the dell vs samsung guy from yesterday
>MSI
no adjustable stand
>AOC
no adjustable stand

Samsung wins again by default

>>106366744
>dell vs samsung guy from yesterday
Yeah I'm waiting for my new PC so I'm just looking for a usable 1440p monitor in the meanwhile.
>no adjustable stand
What about the things that actually matter, like the colors and clarity in motion? I'm propping up my secondary monitor right now with a fucking book, that's how little I care about egonomics.

Why do we hate the Intel 265K?

>>106366760
The aoc has wider color gamut than samsung
Msi is worse
Motion idk you have to check tests
Nothing on rtings for example

>>106366798
I'm not gonna do productivity

>>106366798
it's good performance for good price but it guzzles an ungodly amount of power and so runs hot and noisy as shit
also incel so dead-end socket

>>106366744
>Price difference.
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, honestly.
My computer is old, it's an I7 6700K and a 1080Ti. It still works, but there's nothing transferable here. It's simply too old.
So, it's going to have to be a new build, and that's going to cost either £2.3K with the 9800X3D or 2.5K with the 9950X3D.

And when framed that like that, it doesn't seem quite so bad.

>>106366849
update your memes. arrowlake is as efficient as zen5 is thanks to tsmc n3b

>>106366798
reddit tells me Intel and Nvidia are bad

>>106366865
>TDP of 125W
>actual TDP is 250W, but incel called it Maximum Turbo Power instead
nah

>>106366890
And despite all that it's perf/w is similar to zen5 since AMD is stuck on a cheaper n4 node to cut costs. If arrowlake is a house fire like you're saying, so is zen5

>noisy
Sounds like my PC when I boot it up.

Dress is strill wrong though

>Those bears in the last pages
SAKURAKO!

What would Touka haha ue think?

>>106366899
>And despite all that it's perf/w is similar to zen5
how is it similar when your own cpu rating shows it being neck-to-neck with 9900x which is actually 120W without any bullshit "oh it draws 240W under max load"?
Don't get me wrong, I'd be pretty happy if incel actually competed so that they can keep AMD in check (those faggots are as greedy as nvidia if they can get away with it).

>>106366899
erm...

>>106366899
>since AMD is stuck on a cheaper n4 node to cut costs
that's a good point tho, where's my 65W 4.8 GHz -> 6.4 GHz turbo on a modern node?
cum on amd

How can I tell if my monitor has been doing the oled pixel refresh / Panel refresh?
It's never done anything while i've been using the computer, so is it doing it while I am away?
Sony inzone m10s btw

>>106366947
the gud shit is reserved for enterprise skus
consumer peasants are happy to get the scraps of recycled io dies from last gen

>>106366949
that's probably one of the ones that is designed with no retarded annoyances in your face
unless there is a pixel refresh counter in the osd somewhere you prolly have to check the service menu to see it

>>106366965
what 8 core enterprise skus are there?
9700x is hardly epyc castoff

>>106366798
abysmal gaming performance.

>>106366979
Are you sure of your claims?
https://youtu.be/xnOZXsfUCM8?si=X1kZJYqIxiYYLZQx

>>106366995
now show me a 12 game average.

>be RTX 5070
>run every modern game at 1440p at great framerates and high visual settings
>>>AAAIIIIEEEE YOU GOT SCAMMED SHIT GPU 12GB RAM ISNT ENOUGH FOR 1080P GAMING IN 2015+10 POORFAGGOT OH NO NO NO NO XHE BOUGHT ZE GPU BRICKED
how much is AMD paying reviewers?

>>106367013
not my fault the voices in your head are wrong, dawg
12gb has always been enough for 1440p. you want 16gb for 4k, for which 5070 is insufficient.

>>106366975
well it still needs to run the refresh cycles or the panel melts into play-doh?

>>106366995
you forget that it's 8800mhz ram + gigatuned
stock it will be straight ass

>>106367025
it's running in panel standby/off

>>106367030
>8800mhz ram + gigatuned
hhhnnnnnnnnngggg
widespread camm2 can't come out soon enough and 2027 will be one hell of a year for consooming

>>106367023
>insufficient for 4k
Well, duh, it's a xx70-tier GPU, and those have been for 1440p ever since the 1070. And let's not forget that the mainstream gamer probably prefers 1080p165hz for that cumpetitive advantage in Finals or Marvel or whatever the fuck kids are playing nowadays (still Fortnite/PUBG after 7-8+ years?) over objective graphical quality at higher resolutions.
Thing is every single review I've watched of the 5070 frames it as a horrible GPU that's never worth considering, as if the viewer of the video is looking to upgrade from a 4070 or something. I bet most people considering the 5070 are coming from a 2070 or earlier and want something current decade.

>>106366995
>>106367030
intel is hot trash because it needs 8800cl40 on blue team to compete with red teams 6000cl30. not to mention the intel is pulling double the wattage.

>>106367059
your posts are dumb, the beliefs you have are dumb (esports trash at 1080p165hz isn't majority) and the e-celebs you seem to obsess over are just as dumb as you if they say 5070 is shit for 1440p when 4070 non-super has been the entry card to 1440p since like 3 years

>>106366798
it has lower fps than a cpu double its price is why

>>106367077
As long as you agree with my original point that the 5070 is a proper GPU for entry level 1440p, it's fine.

>>106367090
I'm glad we agreed in the end

>>106367087
>it has lower fps than a cpu double its price
that seems reasonable

how many years until my B450M with 5700x3d and 6700xt starts looking like the 1080ti copers of today?

>>106365245
In some cases, you might max out with ray tracing, but generally speaking, you can manage with 16GB.

>>106367013
A lot, Linus literally said so on WAN show a couple weeks ago

Steve is the only one that doesn't take their money but he gets paid in access to engineers

>>106367180
ue5 has been extremely cringe so far

>>106367180
>>106367251
left: decima engine 4k
right: unreal engine 5 upscaled from 1440p

Wait a minute

I just realized if I build a new PC now and want to upgrade later like if Nova Lake is actually good I would only have to swap the CPU and motherboard

Waiting to build until late 2026 sounds really dumb if I say it like that

>>106367274
what a dogshit engine

>>106367251
its so cringe that it crashes on intel cpus before prime95 do

What if, instead of a side panel it's was a mesh with 3x3 array of fans blowing air into the case
and the back panel was a cross of 5 fans blowing out
surely such a design would be far more efficient since the entire board would be equally getting cold air rather than the GPU sucking in cold air and reblowing it into the CPU's heatsinks
why has no one made this yet

ehhhhh

>>106367319
we used to have side fans
performance boys lost
aesthetics boys won

Fractal North Mesh is the only one that bothers with side fans today. Gamers Nexus autistic screeching is the only reason we have front intake mesh now

>>106367288
>only have to swap half the computer
brilliant
or you could just get something good now

>>106367358
hardly half, just two components

>>106367331
heeeee

>>106367319
That's what some sff cases do. But it's sff so everything else needs to be small.

>>106367369
keep telling yourself that when you look at the pricetag and the time spent tearing it down to rebuild it

>>106366965
zen5 epycs are certified for ddr5-6400 while consumer zen5 is stuck at ddr5-5600 official spec
its the first time i've seen something like this tb h

>>106367390
k
So what? Wait until late 2026 then

>>106367401
>or you could just get something good now

>>106367424
>not waitfagging
lurk until you learn board culture, faggot

>>106367469
if he wants to waitfag then he can waitfag
anon was planning on buying garbage now in the hopes that future garbage wouldn't be garbage, I merely proposed something sane

>>106367391
It should be noted that eypcs use registered DIMMs while consumer shit doesn't

>>106367488
>>anon was planning on buying garbage now
No, I never said that. I'm planning a 9800X3D build now. But sometimes I want more cores so I was debating that or 9950X3D. But now I see that I can just buy it and if better comes along I won't have to build a whole new PC just swap those out. I have garbage now, I wouldn't buy garbage.

>>106364319
my condolences anon

literally just wait 2 years
amd 10800x3d 256mb l3 cache
amd 10900xtx 32gb
64gb hynix 6600cl28
pcie5 nvme

/g/ bros i wanna buy an 9070xt and i came across the XFX quicksilver model , its the coolest mid tier 9070xt and its cheaper too could you give me any suggestions or if there are any issues with this specific model ?

>>106367552
>buying am5 trash mere months before am6

>>106367562
am4 had 4 microarchitectures updates
10000 would be the 3rd

Could I have honest, no bs opinions about BoostBox products? Specifically coolers and PSU.

>>106367556
It's on par with the Sapphire Pulse. Nothing wrong with it.

>>106367516
you can do that but it would be suboptimal since different platforms work best with different memory xmp/expo profiles. e.g. if novalake works best with ddr5-9000, you'd be gimping it with 6000cl30 ram you bought for your 9800x3d

>>106367569
(almost) all sings point to 10000 series being the latest am5 cpu
this in itself isn't necessarily bad - they'll be excellent cpus, given the fact that they're supposed to be fabbed on 2N - but ddr5 has been a stinker start to finish and the retimer ddr5 sticks are a bit of a joke
and yeah, you don't *need* super-fast ram but it sure would be nice to have double the speed of what's used right now

>>106367598
at the very least there will be 4 updates to the microarchitecture before they abandon it. oems wont allow am6 so soon.

>>106367598
mlid just said amd decided on am5 for zen7 this past week

>>106367627
>mlid just said amd decided on am5
shit
am6 confirmed

>>106367562
we wont be seeing am6 before 2028

>>106367634
for 2029 that is

>>106367598
>but ddr5 has been a stinker start to finish
Gaymers just have too high expectations
RAM has arguably just been a huge brainworm the last few years.
95% just want fast RAM to feel good over realized gains.

>>106367661
they keep giving us higher bandwidth and higher latency ram but all we want is lower latency ram with the same bandwidth

when will the cheapest 4k monitors go below 100 dollars like high refresh rate 1080p monitors do now?

>>106367718
When commonplace GPUs (see Steam chart) can handle 4K and the jews need to upsell you to 8K and beyond

>>106367718
Most likely never because the fed prints way too much money that $100 today will be the same as $300 in a couple years

>>106367661
>>106367690
Yea latency doesn't sell. Big numbers do. You are crazy to run unstable speeds with high latency. In the end you are just as fast as a lower speed, tighter timing set, that is also more stable.

>>106367650
early q2 2026 for 10000 series
late q3 / early q4 2027 for whatever comes after
I suppose 2028 fits if you're talking about x3d

>>106367757
It's not even hard to get good latency if they used better subtimings. A lot of expo kits have trefi and trfc so loose that it's literally giving up 15% performance in some games.

That is the gayest computer case I've ever seen.

Which one?

>>106367757

big numbers does not matter as cpu has number and thats it unless you overclock

>>106366798

disable turboboost
disable efficient cores
disable virtualization
best ever?

>>106366566
>b850m-x wifi
This board shouldn't have the more aggressive PBO power delivery settings, and you have a non-X CPU.
It's very unlikely to kill your board (mostly because of the non-X CPU).
Even relatively budget ASRock boards like the Pro-A are killing these CPUs.

>>106367562
>am6
>>106366111
>DDR6

You don't buy into the very first generation of a new memory standard; you overpay for the least performant DDR6 kits.
6400MT/s was considered to be a high-end bin; people had to settle for 5200MT/s or JEDEC 4800MT/s kits when Alder Lake launched.
5600MT/s kits cost around $300, but there were also production bottlenecks due to PMIC shortages.

i ordered a 6000 CL28 kit for my 9800x3d anons will i be getting my promised +2 fps ?

>>106368035
yes, from 298 to 300

>>106368035
you still need to manually tweak it. expo is always too loose.

Touching some keyboards with metal frames and pbt keycaps and mech/he switches made me remember how less satisfying my shitty flat laptop keyboard is

>>106368047
you're mom is too loose

>>106368130
only because you have a limp dick

>>106368130
rude

>>106366949
>How can I tell if my monitor has been doing the oled pixel refresh / Panel refresh?
>It's never done anything while i've been using the computer, so is it doing it while I am away?
It should be doing a 5~10 min screen optimization when the monitor's in standby mode (every 4/16/24 hours, depending on how Sony sets it).
>The pixel refresh function or panel refresh function is performed automatically when the monitor is turned off or enters the standby mode.
There's [Pixel refresh] and [Panel refresh] option, don't manually start the [Panel refresh].
https://helpguide.sony.net/tv/27q10s/v1/en/contents/TP1001675076.html

>>106368047
why would do that intelboy ?

>>106368159
HOLY SHIT

thanks anon i will be tuning after the expo and the complete set up of the rig ends

>>106368159
I"ve even seen a couple of anons rocking 1220 trfc here

>>106368159
>4000ns
kek

>>106368222
>>106368206
yeah imagine buying oc kit but you dont get the oc performance. this is what it is. trfc ns can be as low as 120ns on hynix but some are rocking 300+.

>>106368159
what does Ryzen do to RAM man...

It's 2015. What build would you be building?

>>106368315
anything that can mine coins

>>106368315
nothing because i was sitting comfy on my sandy bridge-e build

What are your UNPOPULAR pc building opinions?

>>106368315
selling everything I own and dumping into nvidia and amd

65535 tREFI is only recommended if you can keep the memory running relatively cool (under 50°C SPD temp during stress test); this value most likely requires active memory cooling.
A more stable value without active cooling is 40959
>5 refresh periods * 8192 clock cycles in a single refresh period - 1
The subtraction accounts for zero-based indexing of the internal refresh counter.
If tREFI was set to 8192, the refresh would occur at the 8193rd cycle.

The PC in the image is not mine.

>>106364218 (OP)
Is a 9800X3D overkill for a 5070?

>>106368315
It's 2025 and I'm still using it

>>106368384
>Is a 9800X3D overkill for a 5070?

No. You can't get better than a 9800X3D for gaming right now.

>>106368430
I feel like the 5070 will be a huge bottleneck for tha CPU. A 9700 shouldn't make any difference in most games at 1440p.

>>106368384
Yes it's overkill even with a 5070ti and 5080. It's only useful when you have a 4090 or 5090

>>106368384
CPU lasts way longer and there are less incentives to keep switching because eventually you have to buy a new mobo and RAM, meanwhile with GPUs you can easily sell it and get the new one

>>106368433
>>106368443
2bh it'll last him ages before he has to buy a new CPU

>>106368466
>eventually you have to buy a new mobo and RAM
Bullshit, AMD's platforms last for four generations. Buy a cheaper 9700 now and upgrade to the best ZEN7 when they arrive. No need to switch RAM or board.

Why was AM4 so kino?

>>106368479
>upgrade to the best ZEN7 when they arrive. No need to switch RAM or board.

Won't ZEN6 be the last for AM5?

>>106368479
He can switch GPUs faster than the last gen am5 release, tard

TIL there are NVMes that do not support legacy boot. Apparently something about needing a legacy oprom or something. But how can I tell which ones?

>>106368497
Leaks point at AM5. AM4 lasted four.

>>106368472
The problem with the 9800x3d is that it's only a stepping stone CPU for am5 where we will be getting much more powerful x3ds in the near future

>>106368525
>The problem with the 9800x3d is that it's only a stepping stone CPU for am5 where we will be getting much more powerful x3ds in the near future

So you're saying only ZEN4 and ZEN7 are worth it?

>>106368529
Even if zen7 will be on am5, zen6 will still be worth it for the 1.5x core and L3 size alone. Zen5 is gonna age like milk, mark my words

>>106368536
What about Zen 1 and Zen 2?

>Budget
2k €
>country
Italy
>usage
Workstation (light programming, might get into local AI genning Ilin the future), lots of web applications (Google Workspace: yeah I know that the 9900X might be overkill for this but I want a long-lasting CPU with great power; for reference the 9700X is around 90€ cheaper; I'm not considering the 9800X3D, sorry), 2k gaming at 240fps (mostly old-school fps games, Overwatch 2, might consider getting more recent games but it's not a priority right now).

>>106368483
It wasn't. AM4 was a CPU socket, not a movie.

>>106368605
Just so you are aware, most games only use one of the two 6-core compute chiplets in that 9900X.
It will run those games like a slightly better 9600X.
9900X only makes sense if you're going to use the extra 4 cores for your workloads, else drop down to 9700X.
If you are sticking with the 9900X, you might want to think of getting a liquid cooler if you expect the CPU to run those 12 cores @ high utilization.

>>106368605

just look at product names
if you buy 1100 black boar slayer component thats what you see

>>106368536
Zen5 is bottlenecked by its own IOD, AMD couldn't even be bothered to update it from Zen4

What were the AM3 days like

>>106368685
See current intel

>>106368685
Board manufacturers prioritized their efforts on more popular Intel platforms.
Now the tables are starting to turn because Intel makes inferior gaming CPUs.

>>106368707
The funniest shit ever is all the 1851 boards they made

>>106368685
Everything was cheaper
AMD users where acting like rebels for buying literal garbage

>>106368702
Nah, the difference between Intel and AMD today is a shitload closer than faildozer was.
People only make this comparison because they felt bullied.

>>106368707
Intel still has the better boards. Even a cheap shit $200 asrock z890 has USB4 and lots of pcie slots.

>>106368525
How much of an upgrade is 5800X3D to 7800X3D to 9800X3D?

>>106368651
Ok thank you for your feedback. I'll probably consider the 9700X then, although I can't conceal that the extra power of the 9900X allures me. I might even get into video editing in the future, so would the 9700X be still good for it? Also I use some websites for AI generations which are quite intense on the CPU.
>>106368668
Please reword your thoughts.

>>106368707
One of the techtubers like GN or someone said that intel also funds motherboard development through special funds which is why you see more varieties and every brand has a dedicated XOC board
Unless AMD starts doing the same, AMD sockets won't have that many interesting boards.

>>106368742
>Nah, the difference between Intel and AMD today is a shitload closer than faildozer was.
The 9800X3D vs 285K feels like old times in reverse, if the 285K had landed then you'd have a point

>>106368750

you maybe encode vid 10% faster or 20% faster thats about it

If my 9800x3d will last 5 years and not bottleneck any gpu in 2 generations then I don't care if it's not the best

>>106368787
Bulldozer was so bad I wouldn't ever considered it to be usable as a general use PC
Intel right now is more like Zen 1 versus kaby lake.
Zen1 was close enough where for the money you'd consider it and many did.

Infact its kinda funny to me that Intel is in the position it's in but is considered straight garbage because of gaming performance while zen1/zen2 was revered despite being lackluster in the same department.

>>106368752
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/amd-ryzen-9000-content-creation-review/

>>106368787
Board manufacturers follow the money, that's why you're seeing XOC boards on AM5.
Intel's also on a company-wide spending cut. Gaming CPUs & motherboard licensing aren't enough to change their fortunes.
I doubt AIBs will be enthusiastic about the next Intel chipset platform after being burned hard by Arrow Lake.
Z890 Taichi OCF needs to be sold at under $400 to find any buyers atm.

>>106368856
What was zen1 like in 2017

>>106368856
It's because people were sick of intel's quad cores and could accept the downside of zen1/+ if it meant having 6 or 8 cores

>>106368848
>If my 9800x3d will last 5 years and not bottleneck any gpu in 2 generations then I don't care if it's not the best

5800X3D released 2022 works just fine m8

>>106368702
Bulldozer was actual dogshit. Like everything AMD then was really really bad. There hasn't really been an equivalent since.
Intel now it's just marginally slower in video games, which you'll probably never notice unless you're using a 5090 with a 1080p screen or something.
Comparing AMD of the era to current day Intel is pure delusion.

>>106368878
Start of the cpu gayming performance brainworm where people unironiclly started benching at 480p low

>>106366391
if you really can't pick between them and the cost is too much, just get a 9900X3D. Its not that big a difference, and the boost in productivity is massive over a 9800x3d.

>>106366475
you already asked this last thread, the samsung or the MSI mag, whichever one seems to have the better stand, get that. I like AOC, but not at that turd-world 24inchlet size.

>>106368898
False. There has always been low resolution testing going as far back as the 2000s with phenoms and q2cs

>>106368919
The majority didn't give a shit tho until techtoobers shilling for the status quo started presenting them.

>>106368896
Arrow Lake is too unpopular for gamers, which is also harming LGA 1851 gaming motherboard sales.
It doesn't matter if Bulldozer was worse; money talks.

>USB4, PCIe slots
Those specs are planned years in advance, when AIBs didn't know Arrow Lake would be this mediocre for gaming.

Sooner or later, systems will stop supporting MBR/Legacy/CSM booting

I'll bet there are OSs out there that haven't worked in UEFI boot (besides older versions of Windows)

>>106368898
If anything, amdrones were saying low resolution testing didn't matter since zen1 lost massively to kabylake. They were saying 1440p and 4k testing were more relevant and should be the only test for CPUs in gaming.

Sooner or later, systems will stop supporting MBR/Legacy/CSM booting

I'll bet there are OSs out there that haven't worked in UEFI boot (besides older versions of Windows)

>>106368935
>Those specs are planned years in advance
I dont see what this has to do with anything

What's the cheapest air cooler I should use for an overclocked 9900k?

>>106368960
Arctic liquid 3 pro 360mm or 420mm since that CPU gets way too hot above 1.2v die sense under load

>>106368976
good air cooler

>>106368960
It's not worth it long term if your electricity isn't free.

>>106368935
>also harming LGA 1851 gaming motherboard sales
You sound like a marketer
They're motherboards, the fact "gaming" motherboards exist just seems like an excuse to charge more for leds and aluminum bits that make it look like a transformer

>>106368958
Because those "cheap shit $200 asrock z890" were specced at a time ASRock was expecting a higher return on boards with that spec.
You can get a fucking Aorus Master Z890 for $360 at the moment (usually sold at above $500).
$360 is the MSRP of the Z890 Tomahawk (currently discounted to $235). It's an extremely unpopular platform.

>>106368507
>>106368945
Who gives a shit about legacy boot of all things on an nvme. Are you using Windows XP?

>>106368984
Air is used to cool radiators down

How do you feel about AMD dominating the market?

>>106368996
Do nvme's even work on XP?

>>106368990
So motherboard vendors do hold shit back if they don't expect good money from them.
Just got caught off guard this time and have to sell boards more reasonably instead of praying on vibes

>>106368998
Tb h I don't want any one company dominating any market or we will have another geforce GPU pricing situation on our hands

>>106368998
while i laughed at the fall of intel-aviv, them getting protected by the american government, months after i sold their shares for a tiny profit (i woulda made alot more if i waited, but there's always another 10+ stocks to invest in that might go up), was infuriating. AMD deserves to succeed, but there needs to be competition.

When is Njudea entering the cpu market again? or is that all just empty talk?

>>106368998
It literally gives my life meaning.

>>106368988
I can get a working cpu and motherboard for around 100 bucks. I wouldn't consider it otherwise. Idk what else to get for around that much

>>106369006
You can make nvmes work with windows 2000 - https://www.xda-developers.com/someone-made-forgotten-windows-version-boot-from-nvme/

You can also make it work with multi core CPUs (properly).

>>106368998
I for one love TR going from $1500 in the past to $5000 now

>>106369014
They literally were supposed to enter the CPU market this fall but the AI boom made them change up their initial plans and we may not see their consumer CPUs until sometime next year, if at all.

What went so right with Windows 7?

>Released 2009
>256 core support, 192GB (4 x 48GB sticks) ram support, GPT support means SSD/HDD size is practically unlimited
>Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Ryzen 9 5950X work flawlessly on Windows 7
>AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series (2020) work flawlessly on Windows 7
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series (2020) work flawlessly on Windows 7
>USB 3 and SATA III (SATA SSD) support via drivers
>Windows 7 does not have native support for NVMe SSDs. However, you can install NVMe drivers to add support
>Microsoft did add a compatibility layer that allows select DirectX 12 games to run in W7 SP1 64-bit, Halo and World of Warcraft uses DirectX 12 running on Windows 7
>Vista, 7, 8, 10 and 11 all run on the very same Win6.x core
>Windows Aero was pretty kino

>>106369047
It should've been the last windows for a while. If hardware/software supported it and it received security updates there would be no reason to upgrade to a later version of windows

how long does it have doc

>>106369094
Get a new one
>32k hours
It was short lived unfortunately

>>106368998
>sub-60fps perf. mode
Do consolejeets really?

I've read that the newer Montech PLA are actually worse than the older Montech Gold that were considered top tier. What other PSUs are recommend today for 750w/850w ?

>>106369144
Seasonic.

>>106369156
That's just a brand. Every brand makes shit PSUs. In fact, Montech's PSU are built by Seasonic.

>>106369144
i just stick to corsair

>>106369160
Seasonic Vertex GX-850.

>>106369144
Check SPL's Tier List which is the updates successor of the old Cultist PSU Tier List from a few years ago and cross-reference it with PPCP's options sorted by price:
https://www.zachstechturf.com/psutierlist

>>106369183
disregarding
Linus made him his bitch
it was embarrassing

>>106366310
>seems pointless to buy faster nvme since it does not even matter for gaming either
Which ones are faster? Those that come as a PCIe card?

>>106365446
>always get the biggest wife you can

>>106367013
Same, ive been really happy with my 5070 for 1440p gaymin. Ran BF6 on highest settings no issues

>>106364826
>always get two half size of that
fukken why? having one big one means you can upgrade later.
same applies to RAM. 1x 32GB stick is better than 2x16GB and much, much better than 4x8GB

>>106369221
What are the current cards that are actually worth getting?

Need a case with at least three 3"5 slots and a mesh panel. Any suggestions?

>>106369236
no it's not

>>106369236
bait used to be believable

>>106365446
>>106369211

>>106369239
5070Ti for AI/gayming
9070XT for gayming
5070 for mid
9060XT/5060Ti 16GB if poor

>>106364722
I bought multiple drives and specialise each one. In total I will be up to 7tb cause lucky number according to my horoscope

>>106369243
>1x 32GB stick is better than 2x16GB and much, much better than 4x8GB

What's wrong with this

>>106369236
>>106369263
2x16GB means you get dual channel. It's better than a single 32GB.

>>106369239
>>106369258
What he said. And waitfags will advise you to wait until 50 Supers drop at year end, and then magically get one at MSRP

>>106369258
>5070 for mid
AMD still can't compete in the mid range. The 9070 should cost about as much, considering its comparatively poor AI and RT performance. As it stands, the 9070 is an awful purchase and might as well pay 50€ more for the XT.

>X370
>X470
>X570
>X670E

Were these chipsets any good?

>7900 XTX

Was it underrated?

>>106368896
>Bulldozer was actual dogshit. Like everything AMD then was really really bad.
Bulldozer wasn't dogshit. Windows was dogshit and its absolutely pants on head retarded scheduler was fucking performance rotten. Bulldozer on Linux or a modern windows is so much better than it was back in the day it's not fair to blame AMD for the Wintel hedgemony not bothering to patch their dogshit OS to give customers what they paid for. This bullshit hit Intel too. Hyperthreading didn't work as well as it should have under windows for the longest time and that's partly the reason they removed it for Core.
Ryzen ran like shit under windows too until Microsoft eventually patched it. The difference is Intel CPUs even with the scheduler advantage were still slower than Ryzen so the narrative was very different. Then the next Ryzen arch came out and surprise surprise, windows needed patching AGAIN. Linux would also get Ryzen patches but that was so they could go from just "better" to "absurdly better." If Intel wasn't squatting in a ditch poking berries up their nose during this time with their 14nm++++ horseshit I bet you any money the narrative around Ryzen would be "lol, bulldozer 2.0"

>>106369252
aw lordy lord

>>106369448
Overrated, you mean. A failed experiment with terrible AI and RT performance on top of shit efficiency because of a "chiplet" design. It's no wonder they went back to a monolithic die with RDNA4.

>>106369268
you take the 5-10% performance hit and then few months later you get another 32GB stick and you're golden.

>>106369322
>>106369437
>>106369448
>generating fake engagement to hit bump limit so you can start your own amd shill pcbg
i see what your doing nicotroon

>>106369477
Or replace both 16GB for practically the same price.

>>106369239
By default I would suggest a 5070 or 5060ti for a midrange build. 12 gb feels weird when the card directly above and below the 5070 both have 16gb but for this tier of cards over the useful lifespan you're unlikely to have too many issues at 1080p/1440p.
5060ti to 5070 is bigger than 5070 to 5080.
5070ti could be worth it for budget 4k or if you know as a 100% fact you need the vram now.
9070/xt are too expensive for what they are
9060xt if you want to spend like $250, can't buy used, and know what you're getting into with 8gb.
>super cards
good luck getting one at msrp. There existence won't suddenly fix the issue of anything with enough vram to be useful for ai being snatched up by the chinks. If you really need an upgrade just buy now while everything is at/very close to msrp. Otherwise wait for 60 series, it's not (if we're being realistic) going to be as big of a jump as ada but it should still be an easier sell than Blackwell.

>7900 XT
20GB
>7900 XTX
24GB

>9070 XT
16GB

What happened here

>>106369483
>9070/xt are too expensive for what they are
Bought a Pulse for 711€ and this thing can compete with the 5070Ti easily. If you're heavy into AI than yea it's not the best purchase. However, under Linux, AMD's ROCm works very well for AI workloads too, surprisingly.

>>106369483
>it's not (if we're being realistic) going to be as big of a jump

Why do they always say this about next-gen releases

>>106369487
They don't want to canibalize their enterprise GPUs.

Will removing the dust filters (fractal meshify) meaningfully increase air flow?

>>106369518
Well soon they're going to be left in the dust by the 5000 Super refresh in terms of VRAM.

>>106369487
they got cold feet after seeing ad102 and gave up on chasing gb202 where they'd need 1000W to match its performance

>>106369505
S curve of technological progress

>>106369482
>Or replace both 16GB for practically the same price.
You always lose money when you have to sell shit.

>>106369487
Chiplets use a bigger memory bus
9000 use smaller memory bus since they have more efficient cache

>>106369198
I mean doesn't matter as long as it's on pcie gen3,4,5 doesnt matter
as long as its not sata
even verifying files and shit does not matter
optane is faster random reads but does not matter either
gen5 faster for sequential read writes but it does not matter

I want to build my first gaming pc. my budget is $500. I live in America

>>106369583
oh boy

>>106369583
1. Do you live within driving distance of a MicoCenter?
2. Are you willing to buy used?

>>106368315
I had a 5820k and a r9 fury with the shaders unlocked via bios mod

>>106369583
Find another $50-ish
K sku raptor lake i5, used z690 board, cheapest 360mm+ aio you can find, chink case, rest of the money goes towards the best Turing card you can afford, likely a 2070 or 2060 super.
Alternativly you drop the i5 but keep the z690 board, get the cheapest i3 with the stock cooler you can find. Probably be able to get a 2080ti that way.
Probably going to have to do a 256gb ssd + hdd. Or not idk I don't follow the pricing of storage I'm totally guessing on this part.

you guys always say avoid asrock but they have the most features at the most reasonable prices

>>106369583
>build
not happening
save more money at least double preferably triple

>>106369661
So does Kia. I would never let a friend buy a Kia for so many reasons

>>106369679
kia is based

>>106368143
There's sort of a hazy/dusty looking sheen to the screen when I put the "tomorrow" theme on and slide the webpage over it.
is that just the matte coating or is it some kind of burn in?
my 32" lg monitor on the side doesn't have this problem at all.

>>106369661
theres nothing wrong with asrock this is reddit posters being retarded

The SF750 Corsair 2024 PSU doesn't have the 16 pin cable for GPUs?

What was your first PC build like?

>>106369613
1. no
2. sure
>>106369649
is it better to have a better core possessor or graphics card? rn i think it says i have a i7 with a 630 graphics card. cant really run shit on this
>>106369674
im okay with something basic, just enough to play dbd and blender

>>106369787
My dad bought me an Athlon XP (don't remember wich but it ran at 1.6GHz) paired with a Radeon 9600SE.
Some years later he bought me a Q6600 with a Radeon HD3870 and 4GB of RAM (that I quickly upgraded to 8GB to install Windows Vista 64 bit)

>>106369787
Maybe I'm outing myself as a zoomer but whatever.
>Pentium D925
>1GB of DDR2 (upgraded to 3GB at some point)
>Sapphire ATI X1550
>320GB HDD
>19 inch 1280x1024@75Hz monitor

>>106369787
i fell for the 3.5GB meme

>>106369859
It lasted me for 4 years without any issue at 1080p. I played everything in the PS4 era.

>>106369804
>i7 with a 630 graphics card
Intel hd 630 or gt 630? If it's an i7 7700 you could get a gpu and psu, and that would be okay for older games. Really most newer ones should at lest be playable too.
GPU > CPU for video games.

>>106369787
>Phenom II X2 unlocked to an X4
>Some Gigabyte ebay special
>GTX 275 I got for cheap in some ebay auction
>16GB of generic DDR3
>Gigantic Beige Antec case that was new old stock the local computer store completely forgot was supposed to be for sale
I had a ton of laptops before that but never a desktop for myself. That was like 2012 or 2013 I think.

>>106369685
Yikes man

>>106369694
take a pic

Will the next bake be from nico poster? I've acquired many new Nvidia shilling images I'm ready to spam.

>>106369196
ZTT doesn’t run SPLs tier list retard

>>106369787
first one I actually built was
>Ryzen 1700
>GTX 1070
>16GB RAM
>258GB Sata SSD
>3TB HDD
over time the pain points of this build were obviously the 258GB SSD at first, so I needed to get at least a 512GB NVME later, and also 16GB RAM started sucking balls over time, especially when you want to have a browser open all the time and you don't want to keep managing tabs. now I won't forget to at least have enough storage and also plan to eventually double the RAM people are currently recommending (right now they rec 32GB, so plan to eventually get 64GB later or just get it now if you can)

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>>106369863
>>106369863
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>>106369804
>1. no
>2. sure
Alright. Next question what is the resolution/refresh rate of your monitor?

>is it better to have a better core possessor or graphics card? rn i think it says i have a i7 with a 630 graphics card. cant really run shit on this
DL Speccy and post the result here:
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/speccy_portable.html
Other users are gonna bitch that I didn't recommend HWMonitor/HWinfo but that readout is too busy for and lack in total specs for this context and better suited for monitoring power/temps for troubleshooting.

You might be better off trying to upgrade parts of your current system as doing an entire total new build for $500 is a tough ask where $700 is about the minimum (if you can save up another $200 between now and Black Friday in November and come back to us we can really work on something).

>>106369859
I think Newegg accepted returns for people who were willing to upgrade to the GTX 1070. My friend took this offer.

>>106369859
>3.5GB meme
good times

don't care what he does faggot

>>106369887
HD i guess it says.
>>106369938
i use a laptop rn, i dont see where to see my refresh rate.

>>106369236
retard, stop posting, just lurk the general for 2 years, you might learn something.

>>106369263
its inferior, maybe ask yourself, why do 99% of all gaming systems, both premades and self-installs, use 2 sticks of ram? HMMMMMM..