Thread 106366692

Discussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video Models and UI

Prev: >>106362104

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassic
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://tensor.art
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>WanX
https://github.com/Wan-Video
2.1: https://rentry.org/wan21kjguide
2.2: https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide
https://alidocs.dingtalk.com/i/nodes/EpGBa2Lm8aZxe5myC99MelA2WgN7R35y

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/tree/main
Training: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
1girl and Beyond: https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
Tag Explorer: https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Samplers: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbours
https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#rentry-from-other-boards
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/b/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo

>Practical usecase for increase VRAM finally arrives
>No cards support SLI anymore
Make it make sense.

comfy shoudl be dragged out on the street and shot

Blessed thread of frenship

shid should be dragged out onto the streed and farded.

>that one in 3000 godlike gen drops again
were so back

>kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
>kohya-ss/sd-scripts
difference?

retard here, what do clipL and clipG do? Why are there two clip files?

>>106366858
musubi seems focused on supporting video models, but then again it also has qwen support...

I don't quite get nunchaku.
To get to the same level of detail/quality of the fp8 qwen image, you'll have to crank up the steps to nearly the same generation time as not using nunchaku in the first place, making the whole exercise kinda pointless.

>>106366953
There is no free lunch in AI. Except sage attention. It's like pennies though.

>>106366953
it's the same as df11
sounds good on paper

>>106366953
VRAM use

>>106366251

kek, they STILL havnet fixed the memory issue? Its been there since v0.3.49. Switch back to v0.3.45 if you dont care about subgrids or qwen.

>>106366692 (OP)
gens are getting crazy good

So any good interfaces with robust TensorRT support?
Tried https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI_TensorRT.git but hasn't been maintained over a year and doesn't seem to work.
[TRT] [W] Unable to determine GPU memory usage: In getGpuMemStatsInBytes at common/extended/resources.cpp:1097
[TRT] [W] Unable to determine GPU memory usage: In getGpuMemStatsInBytes at common/extended/resources.cpp:1097
[TRT] [I] [MemUsageChange] Init CUDA: CPU +0, GPU +0, now: CPU 3187, GPU 0 (MiB) terminate called after throwing an instance of 'nvinfer1::APIUsageError'
what(): CUDA initialization failure with error: 35. Please check your CUDA installation: http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/index.html In checkCudaInstalledAndPrintMemoryUsage at optimizer/api/builder.cpp:1238
Aborted (core dumped) python main.py

I also wanna try this:
https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/stable-diffusion-xl-1.0-tensorrt
>>106366860
You can use multiple different text encoders together (provided they are compatible with the model.)
Anyway iirc the StabilityAI actually tried to train on just one of them for SDXL, but it didn't work out so they used both or something like that.
Both are piece of shit ancient models with limitations like next to no NLP.
But you need them for SDXL.
Be aware that some finetunes also train them (like Illustrious) so you will get deformed nightmares if you force the wrong CLIP on the wrong model.

Just a quick test of the same seed between v48 and HD, with both t5 and gner. I opted not to include flan since all of the results with it were very close to t5. Both encoders are fp16.

Positive: Anime screenshot of the Pokemon Horizons series. The subject is Meowscarada the Pokemon. He is looking at the viewer with a smug expression. Outdoors at midday.

Negative: Low Quality. Worst quality.

Cfg: 4, Euler+beta at 26 steps.

I opted not to include flan since the results were almost identical to t5, but slightly worse. Gner produces different enough outputs I think its worth keeping for variety.

HD is confused by the stylized anatomy, and the t5 HD example shows that blurring effect that plagued v50 as well.

>>106367051
the fuck is gner?

>>106367051
>chroma for cartoon gens
wasted

>>106366715
Nvlink never did much on consumer cards because nvidia disabled memory pooling in the driver. No Ada or newer PCIe card has it anyway.
Sucks, but for image and videogen, all the memory still needs to be on a single GPU.

>>106367051
I think the gens on the right look more like authentic Pokemon anime (though blurry). Did you try genning on HD with v48 trained lora?

>>106367005
It is running now after downgrading to tensorrt==10.11.0.33.
I lowkey suspected this might fix it before posting.
Probably some regression or whatevert but no idea how to report this. Too lazy to bother anyway.

Is it just me or do loras look kinda different on forge/reforge and comfy? I did a couple loras and and those that look good on forge give me results that look kinda overtrained on comfy(like eg exaggerated looking facial features on a celeb lora that looks fine on forge).Or am I just seeing things?

>>106367200
Yes, the biggest difference is in the prompt weighting between Comfy and Forge/ReForge, but there are other smaller differences as well.

Overall I prefer the look I get from orge/ReForge, but it's not as if it's a big preference.

>>106367177
ALMOST TWICE AS FAST ON THE SD 1.5 DEMO I MADE
WOW!
So not sure how this translates to actually relevant models yet but why didn't this receive more attention?

Please recommend me some LoRAs for photo-realistic NSFW i2v results. I am already set up, just need the fucking appropiate LoRAs.

Chromabros! Is there not a ipadapter like sd1, sdxl, etc where I can upload an image and it'll use the face for chroma? The flux ipadapters dont seem to work, its like I get a different error every time

Chromabros... not like this...

>>106367306
omg... so perfect... such a complete and well trained model.

>>106367306
Hehehe

>>106366692 (OP)
>3 asuka gens in collage
Oh, someone's feeling a bit sensitive.

>>106367306
Don't worry bro a finetune will unfuck its broken anatomy knowledge any second now.

>>106367306
Only invest money and fine tune it

>>106367306
2 more finetunes sirs

>Maybe a realistic gen will do better.
>It's worse.

>>106367285
>>106367306
>>106367338
>>106367332
>>106367314

You are all nazis af. Every single one of you. Stop being Nazis

>>106367355
Nazi! You sure are a chink entrepreuner of WAN or Qwen!

Every chroma output, the poster spent hours rolling gatcha to get even something remotely passable. Every qwen and wan output is a 1 shot.

Are you telling me that the AntiChroma Schizo was right all along?

>>106367355
bad feet, but sniffable pits

Okay, now that Chroma is officialy dead, how do we memory hole Comfy?
The node compatibility and bloated updates are tedious.
I certainly don't view Comfy as my grandchildren's UI anymore, it's not practical.

>>106367362
Saar, kindly do the needful and be quiet. I am merely posting my generations of chroma. Do not be forcing me to involve your bloody bastard bitch mother.

Looks like the chroma/comfy hating autist woke up. It was peaceful while it lasted.

Please, this is serious. Remove Chroma from OP.

>>106367461
Qwen and WAN also dont have catbox setting or promot shared

>>106367355
The problem of Chroma is call Flux distilled cuck model, simple as that, the furryfag just give up and now with Qwen will train that instead from scratch. You need so much money, time and effort to turn Flux into something, So... Chroma is dead, I think no, his model is the only one which is capable of complex NSFW gens, the problem is just Flux, 48 were the maximum for this, and so the Flux cucked era is gone. Thanks China for giving us a better base uncucked model

chroma should be dragged out on the street and shot

>>106367485
>Thanks China for giving us a better base uncucked model
Which Chinese model has NSFW?

comfy should be dragged out on the street and shot

>>106365201
It is a chroma lora
I haven't really settled on which checkpoint yet but this is the one for that image (at 0.8 strength)

https://litter.catbox.moe/3231gcusbsn60ajs.safetensors

>>106367252

Most of the 2.2 ones have been super impressive so far like the oral insertion one and even the POV Missionary. You can prompt to add the actions to an existing image and 2.2 actually makes it fit in pretty well, it’s such a smart model.

>>106367513
Look in Civit its really easy to finetune WAN and Qwen. Uncucked architecture.

>muh NSFW SOTA model
Besides, another thing, you damn faggot. You keep bragging that Chroma is the king of NSFW but I NEVER saw a spicy gen catbox from Chroma ANYWHERE! So stop lying to yourself and others about muh Chroma special ability that was never shown.

>>106367555
>Look in Civit its really easy to finetune WAN and Qwen
Needing loras for basic sex concepts is retarded. Chroma knows freakshit natively

>>106367366
Because qwen only has one version of the pic within the enite seed pool lol. And wan is far from oneshot

>>106367564
>Chroma knows freakshit natively
>Natively
No. It's a tortured and corrupted finetune of flux schnell.

>>106367555
I am not actually a failrama defender but nice rant.

>>106367531
Oh Great!!!! Another 2005 Chroma PS2 LoRA.
Adding it to my pointless LoRA collection along with my Chroma Disney Pixar LoRA and Chroma DALLE 3 LoRA.

What useless LoRA are you making next anon? Actually curious to see what you come up with!

>>106367584
nta but you seem needlessly upset at people enjoying things.

1.5 SUCKS
sdxl SUCKS
sd 2.0 SUCKS
sd 3 SUCKS
sd 3.5 SUCKS
flux SUCKS
pixart SUCKS
auraflow SUCKS
kolors SUCKS
hidream SUCKS
hunyuan SUCKS
lumina SUCKS
chroma SUCKS
qwen SUCKS
wan SUCKS

they ALL SUCK

>>106367584
fuck off faggot

>>106367606
Come on anons we got to hide Chroma's evident broken architecture.
Make our Loras so uninteresting so they cant compete properly so nobody can call us out or judge our beloved model.
Chroma is not bad it is just "different" right?

>>106367606
nta, but I'm sick of people sucking off chroma simply for the fact it's uncensored. It was an ill conceived venture to begin with. Training on a base the clearly did not want to be trained.

>>106367623
>>106367628
>WAAAAA STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!

Fuck off

>>106367606
this. i hate hate

>>106367635
If you saw everyone eating turd sundaes and holding their turd sundaes up in your face trying to convince you to take a bite, you'd be hostile too.

>>106367660
Terrible analogy since no one is forcing you to use Chroma

>>106367685
I never said force. I said convince.

>>106367709
No one is trying to "convince" you.

>>106367720
Yeah... they are.

Chromachads where we at? Let's show these vramlets what for and all post our chroma masterpieces. Ready, set, go!

>>106367359
How do I stop being nazi

Apparently ldg has become AA for people with skill issues to share

>>106367727
No, they are not. Show me a post ITT where people are saying "Stop using this model, use Chroma instead"

>>106367733
I'm a vramlet and use Chroma where's your God now

>>106367564
This post implies chroma is needed for NSFW gens over others. Convincing me to use it.

I'm in the Chroma Discord seeing what people actually share. Their "realism and NSFW strength" is easily matched by SDXL with proper loras.
The crossposting and random lora releases nobody asked for feels like desperate shilling to hide a mediocre product behind "muh local" marketing.

Wherever I spot weak shilling I'll call it out.

Take it as hate or motivation but realistically there are better models with active communities that actually allow criticism instead of being Discord hugbox cults. Qwen and WAN get proper feedback and improve while Chroma hides from criticism.

>>106367235
I have no idea why Nvidia seems to have abandoned TensorRT support for image generation for local use. I gaurantee for their in house stuff they are using it. But for the public, local plebs like us they gave us a few crumbs and have forgotten about us.

>>106367355
Skill issue

any ideas for qwen edit loras?

>>106367531
Lovely, thanks for sharing

>>106367833
Because they make money from people using AI in the cloud. It is not in NVidia's business interests to provide AI generation capabilities at home. That's why they're holding back on the VRAM too.

If Chroma doesn't accept criticism, it will never be able to leave Discord and /ldg/.

>>106367855
Criticism wasn't in the dataset. Only tons of furry porn and whatever it was that made it fuck up anime completely.

>>106367833
this is nice, catbox?

>>106367531
nice! thank you.

>>106367938
Share your gens, you fucker, I want you to spend all Sunday making gens from this PS2 Lora ! Come on samefag!

can you get aneurysm already, schizo?

What people don't seem to get about Chroma is that it is not a product that is being "sold" to you and Lodestone is essentially doing it for free (the donations barely covers the expenses). It is essentially a personal experiment by Lodestone that it just happens that he is sharing to the public. He did fuck up with some of the epochs, and even the current HD model is garbage producing a blurry mess even after you train it with loras. But those who actually stop to train loras know it produces okay results in specific weights, and it is by far the least slopped model whether some of you like it or not, I say this as someone who trained Qwen loras. Qwen is indeed technically superior in every regard, but it's slower, loras don't work well with the distilled quants, and even the "realism" loras I trained with it produce slop every now and then if you give it the mildest hint of slop in the prompt, while this problem doesn't exist in Chroma.

>>106367961
what's wrong? assblasted you don't have a real gpu? just die already :)

>It is essentially a personal experiment
What new excuses will it be tomorrow I wonder

>>106367996
I mean... He doesn't even test his shit or hear other people's opinions before uploading the weights and claiming it's a "final" version

>>106367584

You're a dumbass. And it's clearly not a 2005 PS2 LoRA. Fucking kid nowaday..

>>106367811
>Their "realism and NSFW strength" is easily matched by SDXL with proper loras
Chrome is a baseball modrl, how good was the SDXL base when ut came out

>>106367833
Shame since it seems to have potential if someone can figure out how to use it for QWEN/Wan 2.2 etc.

>>106367811
Nah. SDXL doesn't hold a candle to Chroma for NSFW realism, and this is coming from someone that has used XL extensively. Anyone saying otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about or thinks perfect blonde looking super models is peak realism.

>>106367547
The oral insertion is insane. You can use practically any image and it will make them suck a fat cock with damn good likeness. Now I don't need to waste time using Chroma Img2Img to insert men with dicks in the pics.

>>106367531
any supplemental prompts that go well/should be used with the lora? it works without a trigger it seems but asking just in case as the style mostly vanishes with longer prompts.

>>106368252
The training images are all by Luis Royo and and all the prompts had "by Luis Royo" in the name. Also "dark fantasy" is pretty common. I should have tagged it better, but I have been prefixing:
art by Luis Royo, dark fantasy illustration

For all fantasy stuff and "art by Lusi Royo, scifi illustration" for the latter case.

>>106368338
In the not too distant future.

Wish there was an ipdapeter for chroma. How do you guys make consistent characters or faces for it?

>>106367971
>current HD model is garbage producing a blurry mess even after you train it with loras
Skill issue? I caption max- full boomer, no gen z. About 10% gets clipped due to being too long. Also in my experimentation, the flash models produce grid noise with longer prompts.

>>106368102
>Chrome is a baseball modrl
kek'd. It's literally flux pro for free at home. It has seen enough to guess what the right color and shape certain things are. I won't go into more detail

3 threads. All fucking useless if you want to learn something. At best you get some dunning kruger retards blogging arrogantly about gibberish.

does it make a difference if I train on a pretrained lora?
qwen image is censored so I wonder if I should train on top of pretrained nsfw lora weights

This is the chroma thread. You have to go back.

>>106368410
yeah...? what made you think otherwise

>more console wars
>waaah just use a lora if you want nsfw with qwen
>waaah just use a lora if you want consistent styles with chroma
these models both suck. if you have to use loras to do shit that just werked with earlier models then it sucks ass.

>>106368427
How would it even work?
Do you know with which precise parameters it was trained on?
Do you have the access to the dataset? (I am not fully sure what kind of effect changing it has in this situation)

>>106367019
>>106367736
>>106368402
All with HD+lora

>>106368402
once I'm finished building my garage I can get some Chroma lora training going on. Is the HD version good or are we still with version 48?

>>106368451
*it was trained?
*Do you have access to the dataset?
Getting sleepy...

>>106368469
the newset HD upload is the "fixed" version, yea. There was also a detail calibrated release today.

>Move from RIFE VFI node to Rife Tensorrt
>Interpolation time went from 40 seconds to 1.2 seconds
What the fuck, man, why didn't I do that sooner

>>106368481
>There was also a detail calibrated release today.
for which version?

>>106368513
HD

>>106368481
>>106368520
where do you see that detail calibrated version?

>>106368469
It really shaped up around the low 40's and I'd recommend everything except the autism mixes ("detail calibrated" aka averages of checkpoints). HD resolved details better than non-HD, and also fails slightly more often. No versions are without issues of randomly having too many/few fingers, bad perspective, a random shemale, etc., but it's better than what we had.

>>106368520
link? i don't see it in the hd repo

>>106368549
https://huggingface.co/silveroxides/Chroma-GGUF/tree/main/Chroma1-HD/Chroma1-HD-dc

>>106368558
what's the difference between dc and dc-super-mix

>>106368558
oh that's a silveroxides "merge" isnt it? not from lodestone
who knows what he "merged" with

>>106368451
I'm using the musubi tuner. I guess you just pass the the pretrained lora path to the trainer?
it has an argument for that
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner/blob/fec404cb9564853e6abf4882c781a4916e9dfdcf/src/musubi_tuner/hv_train_network.py#L2671

>>106368493
Same quality as using RIFE VFI right?

>>106368481
>>106368558
>detail calibrated release today.
This is unofficial btw


>>106368587
>oh that's a silveroxides "merge" isnt it? not from lodestone
This

>>106368581
>dc-super-mix
Probably some frankenstein mix. The result output wasn't particularly better compared to HD

>>106368603
>>106368610
just use his 40 custom nodes and gemini node and make sure to use his 2 page system prompt bro, it may come out furry but it's so worth it

>>106368639
>## Specialized Role: E621 Image Prompt Refinement and Optimization

>Your specific role within this evaluation is to act as a highly specialized engine for refining and optimizing text prompts intended for image generation models trained on the e621.net dataset.

ok and?

>>106368552
I think Flux loras can be trained with 12gb gpu, I'm hoping Chroma gets similar support

what's the point of qwen and chroma when sdxl does 1girl just fine

>>106368630
>just use his 40 custom nodes
Enjoy the 100% native Chroma experience, but nice try https://litter.catbox.moe/3s27dgovdbzf10c8.png

>>106368672
Chroma generates so much more detail it can't be compared

>>106368725
Oops, forgot pic, have another

fucking comfy WHY IS IT NOT UNLOADING THE FUCKING CLIP MODEL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>106368746
because you're stupid and don't know what you're doing, now fuck off

>>106368743
this bitch is 8ft tall what the hell

>>106368762
bro earlier it was working perfect, before loading the big model it unloaded clip/vae, but now its not doing it like FML BRO i cant TAKE IT i cant TAKE IT why do I need to debug this SHIT WHY WHY WHY WHY

>>106368773
>restart comfy
>its working now
REEEEEEEE

>>106368746
What version of comfy you got?

>>106368797
>everyone i don't like looks like this and says this
soicuck

comfy drag and shot

>>106368821
hit a nerve? oh no sdbrosss

All of these failbakes, meanwhile Illustrious and NoobAI does everything and more, on a budget so no need for nuchakaku waiting

>>106368883
I can appreciate that they're trying to make the models do more than 1girl but if it comes with heavy sacrifices it sort of feels like what's the point

>>106368672
Shiny object syndrome. They're constantly releasing and adding new shit to comfy instead of fixing existing issues. Take the memory leakage for example.

>muh chroma
>muh quen
>nuh sdxl
>muh muh
Can so someone explain these retarded model turf wars to me, IMO the more open local models the better, who gives a shit? Is it autism?

>>106368883
>meanwhile Illustrious and NoobAI does everything
Except realism

>>106368902
we only need qwen
other models are a waste of time

>>106368909
>Realism
If you want realism, you'd pay instead of doing local coping

>>106368909
You can wrangle Illustrious to do realism.

>>106368931
>Realism
>Cloud AI yellow filter cause muh safety
Kek, local is at the end more realistic cause I can train

Just train a lora anon. Anyone know 18omg models?

>>106368902
>Is it autism?
always

it seems like lodestones experiment is working. Might solve the small details issue of models at last

>>106369049
If i Install the memefork of comfy needed for this, is it gonna break everything?

>>106369060
I wouldn't do it till its finished

>>106369049
>experiment
Which one?
>Might solve the small details issue of models
Good but the model has bigger issues than small details.

>>106369049
HYPE

>>106369060
>is it gonna break everything
Not if you know how to use git. Add origin, change branch. Otherwise wait for mommy

>>106369098
the pixel space one, and what issues? and I was not talking about that model in general anyway. This would solve it for all models with some training. And it would make follow up models much easier and cheaper to train and would make small details much better without the vae issues

>>106369049
it is interesting but i would be careful with too much hopium
https://huggingface.co/spaces/MCG-NJU/PixNerd

>>106368955
All illustrous reslism models I've seen had obvious issues and had they same problems as pony realism attempts. How do you tard wrangle illustrous for realism, is it some super sekrit prompt?

>>106369049
Looking at eqvae, we've been attributing way too much importance to vae. Vae can be left in place and not much will change. But it's your compute, not mine.

can I use this for text conversations or is it just images/videos

>>106369158
It's AI so it's gonna have flaws but maybe I'm not autistic enough.

>>106369223
This is the image thread, nigga. You are looking for /lmg/

>>106369247
thanks boss

>>106369226
digital circus > hazbin hotel

Chroma is very fun with loras

>>106369321
why is it so smooth? looks fake

>>106369321
face looks odd, too smooth like it was added afterwards with a face changer or something

>>106369203
lmao at the bear chillign under the table

>use --reserve-vram in comfy to prevent OOM errors and force it to offload earlier
>it does absolutely nothing
Fucking hell.

>>106369049
Oh here we go again, the ride never ends...

>>106369381
>>106369418

Good catch, kept a bad upscaler model on in one of the nodes

returd here, lora rank affects how accurate the learned concept is right? With higher rank the concept is more accurate but also more rigid and inflexible, do I understand that right?

>>106369049
The cope coaster is in full effect.

>>106369321
>>106369488
Hey would you happen to know what exactly is supposed to be passed in the diffusers_path and the transformer_path in the chroma diffusion-pipe config? The rentry says to pass the chroma model directory and safetensors for Chroma, but the diffusion-pipe github says to pass flux's. I've tried passing Chroma, but it errors out about missing config parameters from the model_index.json

>>106368909
>except realism
3dpd so what’s the problem?

>>106369603


The diffusers should be the OG flux dev diffusers, and then the transformer would be the chroma checkpoint. I only ran DP once, I used a fork of AI toolkit for this lora.

>>106369273
NTA but you have it backwards

>>106369321
>>106369488
One of us!

>>106369495
Higher rank means more detail picked up, but that's not always good if you are doing a character lora

>>106369603
Sorry anon I should have tested that change. Flux path works bc it's the same VAE

>>106369641
the gravel looks very artifical but the character looks good, very realistic. Looks very nice, maybe I'm rarted to get that level of detail with SDXL I usually have to wrangle the gens with tiler controlnet.

Just got back from real life stuff I have a few questions

>How did chroma turn out
>Can it stick to art styles like other models, I was told that would be done at the very end
>Has gen consistency improved with these new models?

>>106369682

I have wildcards for prompt backgrounds and I'm guessing it was trying to make woodchips lol, I do agree with you though that the background is kinda eh. At least it makes sense compared to some SDXL ones.


I switched from SDXL checkpoints like biglust/biglove myself because I was never satisfied with character likeness; and now that I can use chroma in tandem with wan2.2 it looks absolutely insane in some of these gens.

>>106369641
>>106369648
Thanks anons. If you don't mind if I pick your brains a bit more as I'm used to using kohya: What exactly is it looking for in the diffuser_path? I ask because I'm assuming I have to download the Flux huggingface repo to get them, which I can't do because I don't have a huggingface account. Is there another means to grab the model?

grim

>>106369701

>How did chroma turn out

It came out pretty decent, I'm satisfied with using it over the SDXL photorealistic checkpoints.

>Can it stick to art styles like other models, I was told that would be done at the very end

It actually has a bit of a problem genning between realism and art lol.


>Has gen consistency improved with these new models?

It has in regards to backgrounds and hands feet for the most part, you still gotta roll a couple times gen wise to get something very satisfying.

>>106369701
>have a few questions
It's a base model that's amazing with lora's and very few of them released. Maybe wait longer for more lora's

>>106369723
idk you might have to copy/make a .config to line things up with kohya.. I've had great luck with diffusion-pipe but it's supposedly slow

Can reforge2 use custom clipG and L?

>>106369701
I started messing around with it yesterday for painterly/illustrated styles. Its base styles from what I can tell aren´t very good but can be ameliorated with loras to an extent. Its understanding of fantasy races and concepts is strong right out of the gate. Its hands are worse than flux, and further are annoying in that when it messes up hands, it tends not just omit or add an extra finger but does stuff like grossly distort or elongate hands which are harder to fix. A consequence of this I think is it is worse with weapons or anything that has to be held or grappled compared with pixelwave flux. This can be worked on with inpainting and such.
It can do nudity. I haven´t tried hardcore stuff (it can do it supposedly) but for naturalistic posing and such it is much easier to control than pixelwave flux, which could handle such nudity in a torturous fashion.
I do get some style inconsistency, even with a style lora. People have mentioned it being bad at fine details, I have seen this. I saw this problem with pixelwave flux too.

>a Spanish painting: in the painting were a number of frail women with heart-shaped faces, huge eyes, spun-gold hair, prisoners in the top room of a circular tower, embroidering a kind of tapestry which spilled out the slit windows and into a void, seeking hopelessly to fill the void: for all the other buildings and creatures, all the waves, ships and forests of the earth were contained in this painting, and the painting was the world.
qwen + lenovo ultrareal LORA.
There's something weird about this model's training, LORAs + certain prompts can unlock unslopped painting styles, but it's hard to prompt for. If I had to guess, the model was trained mostly on AI-generated captions and basic info/metadata for images was left out, causing the slop style convergence. this LORA is photorealism-focused, but also unlocks more of the model's 2D art capabilities. the prompt is from Pynchon's description of a Remedios Varo painting, and maybe that is triggering it somehow too.

>>106369072
Nice, makes me miss VGA

>>106369979
welcome to the average Qwen lora experience
This shit needs a hero to perform a full rank fine-tune to completely undo/unslop the post-training they did

>>106369072
>>106369979
kino

>>106369979
kek

>>106369603
>to be passed in the diffusers_path and the transformer_path
diffusers_path should be a Flux dev or Flux schnell repo, and the transformer_path should be whatever .safetensor Chroma you want to train on, like Chroma1-HD.safetensors

You should be able to set the diffusers_path to the https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/tree/main repo if you have it downloaded, it also contains a Chroma1-HD.safetensors for the transformers

This is wasting space though, since if you want to train on Chroma1 the repo is enough, Diffusion-Pipe will likely fix this soon

Also, OneTrainer will release Chroma training support shortly, and if you use vram offloading when training, it takes ~30-40% less time to train due to being very optimized compared to Diffusion-Pipe

>>106370009
here's hoping it will happen, it's a strong model, but it is so insanely overtrained

it being apache licensed increases the chances of a full finetune, it being HUGE and SLOW to train lowers the chances of a full finetune...

>>106367606
are you actually a woman? imagine having eyes that can see the world outside your house and thinking that this is a real opinion shared by any person that isn't a sissy faggot manchild

>>106368115
It is trivial for people who understand the structure of the models and the architecture.
I looked into it... maybe 8 months ago, but it required a lot of learning that i don't have time for. Also it doesn't work for LCM type use iirc

>>106369979
>the model was trained mostly on AI-generated captions and basic info/metadata for images was left out, causing the slop style convergence
What is apparent is that they did post-training ("aesthetics fine-tune") almost entirely on gpt4o synesthetic slop and basically made the entire model be biased to smooth skins and piss filter
I think a Chroma style full rank fine-tune on at least an epoch on millions of images should fully unslop the model, but it would probably be expensive

>>106370093
>synesthetic slop
synthetic slop, damn autocorrect

>>106369979
Don't know how the painting actually looks but that prompt is cool schizo material.

>>106369979
one thing I'm going to test is translating the style prompt to Chinese. maybe the image metadata wasn't in English.

>>106370041
chromacousins...

>>106370085
TREAD+EQ-VAE should make a Qwen finetune (or any model finetune) orders of magnitude cheaper than even existing SDXL finetunes were. we'd just need a baker who is smart enough to implement both for Qwen before attempting.

>>106370093
>they did post-training ("aesthetics fine-tune") almost entirely on gpt4o synesthetic slop
any proof of this? I don't see it in here, they actually deny using synthetic images:
https://qianwen-res.oss-cn-beijing.aliyuncs.com/Qwen-Image/Qwen_Image.pdf
>inally, the Synthetic Data category accounts for approximately 5% of the dataset. It is important to clarify that the synthetic data discussed here does not include images generated by other AI models, but rather data synthesized through controlled text rendering techniques (described in §§ 3.4). This excludes images synthesized by other AI models, which often introduce significant risks such as visual artifacts, text distortions, biases, and hallucinations. We adopt a conservative stance toward such data, as training on low-fidelity or misleading images may weaken the model’s generalization capabilities and undermine its reliability.

there are clearly more ways of slopping a model than using synthetic imagesets.

>>106370119
https://historia-arte.com/obras/bordando-el-manto-terrestre

Which AI software do people use to make this?

>>106370170
>any proof of this? I don't see it in here, they actually deny using synthetic images:
They are clearly lying, it's chinks we are talking about, lol
And using outputs to train other models is against OpenAI's TOS

>>106370200
wan 2.1 almost certainly since it cut after exactly 5 seconds

>>106368797
nobody cares about vramlet shit anon

>Qwen does nipples natively
Huh.

heh

>>106370287
it's a coom model already if you just do softcore stuff.

qwen edit also does tits and ass out of the box too.

anyone else thinking cfg at 2.5 being too much?

>>106370244
>right character
Ok now we are talking

>>106370506
can you please not sexualize an instagram-tier video that would be legal in every non-shitskin country worldwide thanks

>>106370506
>>106370536
You butt hurt boys are so cute and silly! :3

how do I make gens more real?
suppose I gen this >>106369488
how do I make it not slop and fake?

>>106370575
>how do I make it not slop and fake?
i don't think you'll ever make outdoor scenes with local models not slop and fake yet. we've been trained for millions of years to look at green landscapes for predators. better to do unnatural environments like indoors imo

For wan 2.2 is there much difference between using Q6 and Q8?

>>106370602
lol

reforge2 just died

>>106370658
that's ok. comfy dies pretty often too

>>106370602
He needs to put on another coat.

>>106370658
>repo archived
what happened

>>106370696
how the fuck are we supposed to know? there is nothing in the readme

>>106370696
>>106370730
he either got immediately tired of the idea or archived it to make a new repo for reforge2. hoping it's the latter.

>>106370244
MODS MODS

numbnutschaku

now that everyone is talking about nunchaku, i will remind all of you that i shilled nunchaku january and february 2025 and no one listened, i am better than all of you
stay mad /ldg/
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104500146/#104505233
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103804379/#103807689

>>106370611
there actually isn't. you can use Q6 and almost never see the issues with it versus Q8. but Q8 isnt that much slower if you're not running out of memory so it's honestly totally up to you

>>106370658
>reforge2 just died
>"We do this not because it is easy, but because we thought it would be easy"

>>106370776
don't care until it's in ggml

>>106368912
impressive that it got the pieces right. didn't think chroma could do that

>>106369226
catbox? that desktop and taskbar are very good

>>106370878
>didn't think chroma could do that
Same, but also using a (custom) lora in which chess pieces were included.

edgy border patrol pedophilia aside, i seriously hope that if you're not in a protected gang (military, police, jews etc) you're at least slightly thinking of a backup plan now that there's boots on the ground in 17 states

>not lewd enough for /e/

those guys sure are picky about what they masturbate too.

>>106371066
What are governments going to do when they realize that you can generate 3dpd cp using a consumer gpu and a few gigabytes of floating point numbers?

>>106370836
That is really nice.

>>106371116
GPU license

>>106371138
>elf hugger
Your name is really nice! c:

>>106371116
I don't know, send billion of dollars to pissrael?

>>106371150
I wish I could hug every elf in the world |='[

>>106371066
anon, probably the jannies just considered you to be trying to be an edgelord previously with the vids featuring latina milf and white shotas, but 3D lolis usually crosses a line they may actually report you for CP
I may also remind you VPN providers do disclose users when they are using their services to share CP

>>106371207
this one turned out better

>>106368902
When you're bored enough, entertaining yourself can manifest in really weird ways.

>>106371228
Shouldn't the skin be impasto, also?

>/ldg/ devolved into console war retardation and borderline illegal softcore porn spam
>reddit full of jeet shills advertising closed models, paid workflows or illustrious slopmerges
>civitai
>every new model has some retarded catch that makes it not worth using
this shit is gay and retarded and i don't know why i don't get into llms or something instead of wasting my time here

>>106371228
I like the style. Wings from behind are much harder than wings from the front. I found the same thing with shields. They always want to render from the front and a view from inside, holding the shield, is difficult.

>>106371228
Paint looks amazing!

>>106371244
Please leave

>>106371244
local LLMs are an even greater waste of time, go for it

>>106371244
Always some little dipshit bitching about everything. Meanwhile I'm having the best time of my life with this technology. Seriously fuck off.

>>106371244
llms are full of disappointment as well, its all benchmaxxed for math and coding

>>106371228
I obviously need to update nunchaku... since i'm on win 11 slop i can't without the wheel ... i guess they'll make a wheel install after releasing the nunchaku 1.0 ver.

>>106371320
Build the wheel yourself. Did the same since I'm on python 3.13.

>>106371320
wheels are available, just have to be installed manually even on linux

its just a "pip install [link to wheel]"

I'm moving from Python 3.12 to 3.13, has anyone tried using the freethreading / no-GIL experiment and if so does it have any performance gains in the typical AI libraries?
I don't want to build the freethreading version and all pip dependencies just to find out if there's a benefit or not when I can stick with 3.13 standard.
I imagine most of the compute is already offloaded to the GPU so removing the GIL probably does nothing since the CPU cores are not being utilized much.

is anyone going to tell this guy nobody cares about anime wan loras

>>106371380
meant for >>106371355

no

>>106371388
I have to migrate anyway, I'm asking about the GIL vs noGIL variants. Are you saying it's 1% on base or threaded?

>>106371402
it's slower per thread performance. you are making it slower

>>106371378
He cares, if he enjoys making and sharing these loras, he is contributing more to humanity than you ever will.

Also, as low as these downloads are, this seems like normal stats for non-porn or non-illustrious loras these days.

>>106369797
>>106370055
Thanks. I got it working and I can confirm that diffusionpipe is super fucking slow.

>>106371420
Interesting. I'll have to look into how they implemented it.
Impacting single threaded perf (what I imagine is most Python scripts are written as) seems like a problem if they ever plan to make that the default.
I'd imagine even in single threaded cases they're doing less lock synchonization now, but I guess they probably went the other direction and have to synchronize even more state, even if it's not used in this case.

>>106371290
>>106371304
>masterpiece, best quality, 8k, highres, newest, photo_(medium), 1boy, male focus, solo, sitting on chair, desk, computer, typing, dark, night, indoors, bedroom, angry, sweaty, stained clothes, mountain dew
i went back to the mesozoic era so that chroma could generate this image in time

>>106371392
What post did you mean to reply to?

>>106367736
kek

>>106369503
SEXO

i only give (You)s to anons that deserve it
>>106371481
are you a newfag? how old are you?

>>106371492
groomer alert

uni_pc still the best sampler for wan?

>>106371492
Unlike other websites, replies aren't actually tracked and can't be exchanged for anything. They're not actually "valuable" here, it's just for notification and linking.

>>106371453
we already knew this last year. It's extremely fucking stupid of the python maintainers to shit up most python scripts in favor of multi threading which barely anyone uses in python. there is literally nothing to look forward to with this shitty fucking language. It's only pain and dependency hell. python is going to die in 5 years, mark my words. we don't even need it anymore technically since llms exist now. hell, llms can just turn natural language into assembly bypassing the compiler but these stupid fucking researchers would never fucking make a coding assistant that killed their retarded darling pytroon. fuck this shitty ecosystem. fuck these lazy developers and fuck you for even entertaining the thought of using python in the future

>>106371506
deis

if you get 10 (You)s on the same post you become king of the thread

>>106371516
with what scheduler?

>>106371515
this post is extremely based

>>106371542
>>106371542
>>106371542
>>106371542

>>106371526
Someone got tricked lol

>>106371515
if you try actually using llms for coding you will find out that they are nowhere able to do that

>>106371527
kl_optimal

>>106371443
Yes, if you train on Float8 you can fit all of it in 16gb vram and then it's ok, but if you want to train the models full native BFloat16 and don't have 24gb+ vram, then you need offloading, and Diffusion-Pipe has really crappy offload optimization.

Again, tested the OneTrainer upcoming Chroma training branch, same settings with lowest amount of offloading I could use, ~45% less training time with OneTrainer.

>>106370055
>>106371681
Not that guy, but does it have to be in safetensors? Can it not read ggufs?

>>106371703
Pretty sure it has to be safetensors, I don't know of any trainer that does gguf

wait wtf can I only img gen using cpu if I have an amd gpu?

>>106372860
for anyone in my predicament
this post works 100%
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1lmt44b/running_rocmaccelerated_comfyui_on_strix_halo_rx/
the information in the OP is bad for AMD users