Thread 106368182

FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
Usage: paste into Powershell, run.
irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>and Office?
Same link, select Ohook option
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
>Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
>Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps
>10 years support on "IoT LTSC", 5 for "LTSC"
>Manual version upgrades
IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7

W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
>Same as W10 version except:
>UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
>Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
>Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can

>Installing apps on LTSC
Use WinGet or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i

>W10/W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
Preinstalled with: Edge, Win32 system apps, MS Store, OneDrive, Weather, Movies, Music, Candy Crush, etc
Auto-reinstalls apps on feature updates
1.5-3 years support
Forced version upgrades

>ISOs:
Windows IoT LTSC https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
Windows https://pastebin.com/nUMgAr0b
Office https://pastebin.com/G8w5qu6z

>Should I debloat / build my own ISO?
If you need to ask, then no.
If you know what you're doing:
https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt

>Portable programs & reinstall-proofing
https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2

>Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc)
https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

>I miss Windows##
OpenShell/RetroBar/WinClassic/StartIsBack

>LTSC Install Guides
https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
https://rentry.org/concisewin10
https://rentry.org/ltsc
https://rentry.org/fwtarchive

Previously on /fwt/: >>106330523

Can i convert my 10 pro 22h2 install to LTSC?

>>106368182 (OP)
I will hit OP with a pie in his face through his basement window for the repeated sin of avatarfagging + coffee

Thats me on the bottom

>>106368182 (OP)
kys pedo

Repost.
How things are looking for Windows 11? Is there still a way to achieve fullscreen Metro screen, like Windows 8?

>>106368182 (OP)
giwtwm

>>106368266
There is ways (StartAllBack or StarDock Start11 for two) but no open source or freeware options.

>>106368207
no, but you can convert a 21h2 ltsc to 22h2

>>106368266
>Is there still a way to achieve fullscreen Metro screen, like Windows 8?
Can't manually configure tablet mode anymore, but 11 has some sort of a tablet experience that is automatically enabled for touchscreen form factors, including tablets and 2-in-1 convertibles
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/desktop/settings-for-better-tablet-experiences
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/turn-tablet-mode-on-or-off-in-windows-add3fbce-5cb5-bf76-0f9c-8d7b30041f30#id0ebd=windows_11
And it's got an overhaul - it doesn't look like what 10 had with just the bigger and simplified shell UX and the full-screen start UI with tiles, let alone 8

>>106368182 (OP)
>massgravel
>script runs remote scripts from some shady Russian server
Nah, I'm good.

>>106368768
Do you mean one of the servers that the Online KMS module uses? Cause one of them probably does come from Russia.
Majority use the HWID or TSforge activation these days though.

For those who like to play around in Win9x and earlier, 86Box 5.0 just released:
https://github.com/86Box/86Box/releases/tag/v5.0
https://github.com/86Box/roms/releases/tag/v5.0

>>106368207
Yes, see https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol

>>106368815
Coincidentally I was just testing 86box for emulation (it wasn't the new version though) and I will stay on Dosbox-Staging for now or if I need a virtual machine I'll use PCem.
86box is bit too unrealiable on my machine, some Socket5(Pentium 1) mobos can be ultra slow, some work without a hitch etc.
Mouse emulation is strange too, it's very visible in WinQuake for example.

>>106368241
Actually she's 360 years old

>>106368815
I am still waiting for /g/ to team up and make a proper GDI/WinG32.DLL wrapper for games

>>106369216
Mouse has gotten a lot more responsive now, especially if you enable "Update mouse every CPU frame"

What's better: Win 8.1 or 10 LTSB 2015?

num keypad stop working. help!
(arrow key and +/- work)

>>106369738
win7 thinpc

>>106370182
No discernible benefits over 8.1 except memory usage (which is not really a concern).

>>106369277
cnc-ddraw?

>>106368182 (OP)
ai slop

>>106370346
cnc-ddraw is just ddraw.dll not wing32.dll since shadow of the horned rat and other games that supports it needs that
also cnc-ddraw doesnt do gdi calls

>>106368240
>>106368352
Samefag pedophile!

>>106368426
>>106370375
Pesky little samefag!

>>106368182 (OP)
after going deep in these threads and my own research, why the actual fuck would anyone use any ltsc when linux is as good as it is now?
i can not think of one reason not to just use mint, and thats what im gonna do for my build.
i guess maybe anons who use adobe professionally but even thats a stretch

Using the gigabyte control panel I was able to update my BIOS and my graphics card.
I am trying to play an old 10+year old 3D game. And my screen kept going black and back to normal multiple times.

At least the annoying words in the corner about activating Windows went away.
somehow.

So I'm at my wit's end and don't know where else to ask.

Since there's no way I'm paying $40 for NTLite just to unfuck Microsoft's issues, and DISMTools is halfbaked, what are people using to edit the Enterprise LTSC ISO made from a UUP dump to be able to actually rip out all the bloatware and spyware in there instead of just trying to disable it and hoping it doesn't get force-enabled anyway, because that's what happened with my last attempt after some past OP's propaganda went and LTSCpilled me

>"LTSC doesn't have all that same nagware and it's more easy to tweak and secure it so it doesn't force updates!"
lmao not when the thing automatically dumps Enterprise's Desired State Configuration shit in there and dumbass Windows just takes it as the signal to go ahead auto-configuring and running all that Azure or Intune or whateverthefuck device management using all the 'default' .mof's that came prepackaged in the ISO

>>106372784
Stock LTSC is better than stock Win10 and isn't subjected to the whim of some random autist on the Internet to remove critical component.

do not feed the jeet trolls @106371262

>>106372784
>brain dead retard makes up imaginary bullshit fud about best windows because he can't figure out the most basic shit like activation
sad

>>106373157
>activation
>activating Windows will somehow open up a magical time portal and retroactively remove files from the installation media before they're dumped into the /wbem folder
>"ALSO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THIS MEANS THEREFORE IT MUST BE FAKE"
You're so smart. You are the smartest boy. The most intelligent poster to ever post a witty, edgy post. Good boy. Good, good posting-boy.

I love Windows!

>>106373690
Holy sovl

>>106371294
just install a previous version of your graphics driver, as low as possible that it still supports your game.

>>106369235
Sometimes I wonder if loli fags genuinely cope with this or it's just them and the anime industry being cynical at the fact they can get away with anything

>>106373984
Pedophiles are mentally ill so that's why they're always in denial about their pedophilia!

>>106374030
And go on crusades against them when they're ones themselves.

>>106370515
Isn't that a teen?
Literally just another child. And with crazy chest tumors.

>>106368426
minus sloppiness

>>106368240
>>106369235
>>106370515
samefag

>>106371294
are you on windows 11?
windows 11 broke some old games
i dont know if there is a fix to it

>>106371262
I've spent six hours trying to add an l2tp/ipsec connector to work with a meraki vpn and all I've got to show for it is 40 pages of reading homework and a dozen installed packages that I probably don't need.

>>106373961
I'll see if I can do that.
>>106374170
Well shit that sucks.
Thanks for letting me know at least.

>>106368182 (OP)
That doesn't look like Windows-chan, is that your whyfoo, OP?

>>106374995
Not OP but it's the main character from Tonari no Kyuuketsuki-san. 300+ year old little girl vampire who's also a comiket otaku and the other little girl that starts living with her. It's 4koma SoL stuff.

>>106373984
nigga that's a disgusting hag
they shoulda made her 14 instead, prime for babymaking

>>106374136
>And with crazy chest tumors.
You're such a funny silly boy! :3

>>106374156
You're dense!

>>106368182 (OP)
Sex with Windows!

>>106369235
This is a valid argument by the way. Anyways, what's the best win32 image viewer, folks at /fwt/?

>>106375892
IrfanView

>>106375917
thx lad.

>UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s

So do I just upgrade to Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021 instead of getting W11 IoT LTSC? How have peoples experience with the W11 UI been?

>>106376401
No issues here, and I even upgraded from a Win10 pro without doing a clean install so I still have all the trashy apps that came with pro.

>>106371262
>adobe
There's a lot more specialised software than just Adobe that doesn't work on Linux. Most won't even run on a mac in engineering

>>106372784
If you can't manage to navigate paste long enough to find the link for custom iso then why should anyone here take you seriously?

>>106376401
>How have peoples experience with the W11 UI been?
My experience is that it is more responsive on modern hardware than an almost identical win10 LTSC install but if you have 2012 era hardware its not the go. It benefits a lot from large RAM, e.g. it will prerender the start menu so it will always show next frame but if RAM is low this will be free'd and rerendered on next open which probably won't be next frame on older hardware.
Also it actually has a heap of very useful features like tabs in explorer, scroll on volume icon, better window management, etc.

Newfag to this, how trustworthy is the iso provided for activation? I remember looking into this before but trusting the iso put me off.

>>106377016
Download the ISO of what you want from massgrave's repo, flash it to a USB and install it, then use MAS to activate. It's foolproof.

>>106369235
sophia on the front page!
which pastbin tells me how to change from win10 pro to enterprise with a powershell code again?

>>106377016
>Newfag to this, how trustworthy is the iso provided for activation? I remember looking into this before but trusting the iso put me off.
about as trustwortthy as you can get it
find hash codes and check them with 7z zip to be certain

>>106375892
agree with irfanview, it also has tons of nifty other uses which is pretty nice
remember to download the plugin pack, it's fairly useless without it

>>106376401
I don't really think that the windows 11 issues are as big as people make them, but I still use windows 10 iot ltsc over windows 11 because it's less ram intensive
I mainly use it on pcs with only 8 gb ram though

I am going to install W10 on my 2023 Laptop. I haven't catch up with all the recent tech stuff though, is there anything I need to know, like weird restriction with CPU/BIOS or anything that would prevent installation of Windows 10 on modern hardware?

>>106377469
>>106376916
>>106376562
Fine, I'll upgrade to W11 IoT LTSC. My PC is pretty good so I don't think I should have any issues

>>106377897
>I'll upgrade to W11 IoT LTSC
If you're satisfied then don't bother, that's literally the point of shilling LTSC

Can I set the inetpub folder to hidden or does that break whatever security fix Microsoft implemented

>>106377837
You'll be able to install 10 to the laptop fine but you may have trouble with official drivers not wanting to install. Programs like SDIO help out here a lot.

>>106373690
Take me back
>>>/wsg/5957784
>>>/wsg/5957783

>>106378212
When computing was actually cool and not just completely controlled by evil megacorps

>>106368182 (OP)
>W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
Question; Does W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021 come with Cortana, Copilot and Recall. If they do, is there an earlier win 10 ltsc version that doesn't include these invasive features?
Tia

>>106378267
No, they dont.

>>106378290
Ok thanks, I might consider installing it so, cheers.

>>106378267
10 LTSC does not come with them, no. Recall is only in 11 (and its LTSC) but you can just disable it with DISM anyway.

>>106378324
Thanks for the confirmation anon.

>>106377016
Microsoft provides hash code on their visualstudio site to tell you if the .iso is legit or not.

>>106371262
Adobe shit and Japanese games hold me back

>>106371262
Familiarity and you have to fuck around with a lot of software to get it to work. Once you're used to it it's not hard, but getting used to it is the hard part.
t. has barely used windows in like 2 years

>>106377979
It's all about the existence of the actual folder (not a symlink/junction/reparse point) and the proper ACLs set (limiting regular users to RX{GR,GE} perms, see it in icacls) that make the migitations work
Adding the hidden attribute just makes the folder not shown in an ordinary listing (like from dir, explorer if not configured to show hidden files)

how the fuck do i get winget on ltsc?

>>106378956
>how the fuck do i get winget on ltsc?
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise/deployment/install-winget-windows-iot

>>106378956
Asheroto's winget-install script.
https://github.com/asheroto/winget-install

>>106378989
>Using random script from the internet
The official winget installation guide from Microshit just works. You don't need any extra scripts, anon.

>>106379017
Do what you want anon. I know it works cause I've used it.

Can I/should I disable Windows from indexing if I use Everything

>>106379060
Everything does what the indexing service already does so yes if you're going to specifically only use Everything with like a toolbar extension or something then you can disable the indexing service.

>>106374030
>>106368241
keke booba newnigger is a fucking aussie
btw your "oppai dekai" bitch pic-related is underage so you're a pedo in denial
>>106369235
why did you have to troll them

>>106369500
I'll take a look at it. Luckily I can just plug in my existing W95 installation drive image etc.

>>106379110
why are you feeding trolls

>>106379159
theyre not trolling anymore in this day and age, theyre 100% dead serious, blame twatter and 2020+5+20

>>106379185
why are you feeding (not) trolls

>>106379195
because i am suicidal

>>106379075
Cool, thanks

>>106378989
didn't work
>>106378974
worked. thank you

I'm so angry that I can't install Windows 10 LTSC due to no WiFi 7 support on my PC, that and the OS crashed a lot with my motherboard, feels like forced obsolescence.

>>106374817
>l2tp/ipsec
how is that possibly taking you 6 hours? are you doing it manually on arch? i said mint. and proton and nordvpn work out of the box on mint
>>106378800
is that really even true tho? ive watched a few guides and it really doesnt seem that hard, especially if you have programming experience. if youve never programmed then i could see that yea

>>106378382
what do jrpgs not work well on linux? they should if theyre on steam. but even then, dual booting with grub is also incredibly easy. im doing mint as my main workspace and then will having windows 11 ltsc iot that shares a drive with linux so i can hop in between when i need something on windows or when i just dont feel like tinkering with linux for something

>>106380948
Most windows software I run are videogames, and you have to fuck around with dependencies for them somewhat often, like installing the right version of dotnet or direct x, sometimes other stuff too.

>>106380190
That's why Linux is popular with prehistoric hardware
You can also use W7 if you don't care about security, but more and more software will stop supporting it (and depending on the type of software you might want to use the latest versions)

>>106381204
my problem is that my mobo is too advanced and it doesn't have support for WiFi 6, so only Win11 lets me use wifi and other features from it. Linux is an alternative but there's just too much stuff that's not compatible that I need, and for everything else there's VM and even WSL or a good ol' VPS.

I'm a noob.
I was testing Ubuntu on live usb and realized it took about 5GB of ram when idle.
Is it because i run the OS live from the usb? would it go down to somewhere between 1 and 2 GB of ram when i do a bare installation?

>>106381652
yes, the whole OS is running thru your ram because its sitting on a shitty usb stick. it will drop down to like 1gb, max 2 once you load it with all your settings and stuff

>>106381688
That's great to hear.
Thanks

>>106381480
Then I guess your least bad option is 11 IoT LTSC

>>106381652
Do an actual install in a VM and you'll know how much memory it uses idle

What image viewers do you guys use that can seamlessly view pictures and videos/gifs located together in a folder? For the longest time I've been using qimgv without complaints except for recently in that it takes about 5+ seconds to open images in large folders on my new external SSD. I tried Irfanview and it has this annoying little delay when going through videos, and Xnview also has video playback problems.

>>106378227
those are just corporate-paid actresses, autisticus maximus

>>106381652
I'm running Ubuntu 24 on a vintage laptop, it uses around half a gig at idle, a far cry from Winhoes 10 & 11 . It's just missing being as speedy as Windows 7. Not that much of a difference at that, honestly. At least Ubuntu 24 takes modern software just fine, unlike 7.

How bad is Win 11 IOT compared to 10 IOT?

>>106384174
It's not. Though I do use startallback for the start menu.

I think my boot/windows ssd just died.
What do? It sends me straight to bios on start-up and says no ssd us plugg ed in slot 0. Do I need to install Windows again on a new drive? How? Thank you frens

>>106385198
Well do you have a boot drive to install Windows anywhere? If you don't and don't have any other PCs to make them with you're kinda screwed until you do.

>>106385229
Yeah, that's what I was worried about, fuck. Maybe I can use my phone as one?

>>106385198
Were you running Win11, is this the update they warned us about?

I love Microsoft Encarta!

>>106385605
this image... speaks volumes

>>106385605
The person who built up Encarta's aesthetic needed a medal. Just so welcoming.

>>106381480
>my problem is that my mobo is too advanced and it doesn't have support for WiFi 6
Why did you buy a motherboard without any PCIe or USB ports? Retard

>>106385605
sovl

>>106384174
Windows 11 24h2 doesnt work with my pirated copies of Madden 08 and 20

>>106385698
>>106385936
There's just something very comfy about Encarta

>>106385979
cute snep

>>106384159
sophie..

>>106385979
>>106385605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTR6ocWV90s&pp=ygUQZW5jYXJ0YSBtaW5kbWF6ZQ%3D%3D

>>106386390
Peak computer class gaming

>>106378037
Good to know. Thanks anon

>update SSD firmware
>restart windows
>install is no longer genuine
Haha time to find out if massgrave is malware.

>>106386682
omg don't do it your anime girls will be stolen!!!!

>>106385198
Is it M.2?
Check connections

>>106381003
steam, lutris, etc does this for you automatically, you don't have to snatch the dependencies yourself when the installer script does it for you
and even if you just use wine as is in general, you can use winetricks to install most things you'd need to run your software automatically, all it could take is winetricks -q dxvk dotnet48 vcrun2022 vcrun2013 vcrun2010 vcrun2008 corefonts cjkfonts or something like that which is even much more easier of a process compared to microsoft windows

LMAO someone got infected with an old windows virus on linux by installing something with wine
https://old.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/1mzx044/got_hit_by_malware_today/nao2g0w/

>>106373690
>picrel
misfire post

Is there a guide for setting up a fresh install of Windows for shit like
>enabling high performance mode
>disabling page file if you're on SSD
>optimizing search index
And stuff like that

>>106388279
Best part is some "people" "thinking" it's a corpo/e-celeb attack thread to scare people from using Arch.

>>106388373
Something like Chris Titus's WinUtil program has toggles for the kinds of things you want within it.

>>106388373
I don't believe in schizo script like shutup10 so here's what I do.
>Use LTSC, obviously
>Remove search indexing from the user folder
>Set windows update to check only and disable its notification through gpedit
>Disable auto driver update so my GPU driver won't get nuked.
>Enable long filename but qbittorrent should cover that already
>https://ninite.com/
>Install winget so I can updoot all my programs instantly with a single command line like Linux
>Install all the codecs here https://codecguide.com/media_foundation_codecs.htm
That's all.

>>106388444
you don't disable animations and mouse acceleration?

>>106388474
I do but I don't feel like typing them out

>>106388210
Lutris install scripts failed for me more often than not and even some steam games need extra stuff installed to work.

>>106388665
really tho? for me, those two were the most important things i did from a usability standpoint. seems wierd you would leave them out.

>>106388444
>>Remove search indexing from the user folder
What does this do

I reinstalled Windows 11 and there's some werid Store shenanigans going on
Previously I had signed up with a MS account, but this time I haven't signed in. However in the installed programs list there's a lot of my previously installed stuff (like image and video codecs) still in there for some reason and I can't uninstall nor use them. Does the store save stuff at the MB level like the Windows license or something??

>still not fixed
tsk tsk tsk I can't believe looniks is ahead of you

How do I make windows actually turn off in one shot instead of having to always close some shitty background program? Like why if my python IDE is open it literally won'T just let me shut it down before confirming it first? Is there some kind of trick to just force shutdown instead of turning of the power?

>>106389232
By default Windows index all the files inside your user folder including your Download folder so you can look them up instantly from the start menu search in the future.
I don't really need it

>>106389928
shutdown -s -f -t 0
Run this in an admin command prompt to force shutdown your computer.

>>106389970
thanks

>>106374030
lolis and children are not the same thing
waifus and women are not the same thing

they look nothing alike
for example someone would fuck an anime girl if it was possible, but might not care less about real life women
3dpd is a thing and it's not just a meme
>incel
no, it's not that. Real women were out of the picture from the beginning.

>>106390859
I'm saving this post for future generations

>>106384174
you should test both since the functionality may change depending on your hardware. i've had some drivers break on w10 but which work on w11 and vice versa.
start with w10 and if all your programs, games, workstuff functions just fine then keep using it.
if not, if you have brand new pc with the latest parts and very fresh drivers it might be smart to try 11 since it might offer better more stable experience.

so basically, try both, it's free anyways, then use which gives you less headache and works better

>>106391222
Comes down to how new your PC's parts are really. If it's newer, then IoT LTSC 2024 just makes more sense for a less headache inducing experience.

>>106391240
yes but not betting it's the case 100% always. you could have some hardware configs that might end up working better on w10

>>106391263
all it needs is one component which has more stable drivers on w10 even though they should be the same on w10&11 but youre never sure.
besides w10 will feel snappier no matter how hard the 11 jeets shill it

>>106390859
grim

>UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
man, you weren't kidding

>>106378324
>Recall is only in 11 (and its LTSC)
false, 11 enterprise iot ltsc does not come with recall

>>106392031
>11 enterprise iot ltsc does not come with recall
11 IoT LTSC has the recall cancer.
DISM /Online /Get-Featureinfo /Featurename:Recall

>friends' SSD just imploded while installing a game on w11
Downgrading back to 10 it is. This piece of shit won't let me uninstall the ssd-killer update.

>>106392516
gross

>>106392516
cute gatto, anon above doesn't have any taste

>>106392425
>ssd-killer update
QUE!?!

Is it a smart idea to bypass logging into a Microsoft account during setup? Will I ever have to use a Microsoft account for anything not using other Microsoft services besides windows?

>>106392951
You will need it if you plan on using the MS Store, Gamepass and things like that, otherwise nah don't bother

>>106392987
I'm mostly concerned with getting "tagged" as a user Microsoft thinks is shady. If I can avoid running windows with an attached account it'd be best

>>106392951
>Is it a smart idea to bypass logging into a Microsoft account during setup?
Yes.
>Will I ever have to use a Microsoft account for anything?
No.
>You will need it if you plan on using the MS Store
You can install apps without a Microshit account. Just use winget.

>>106393026
>standing out
Does it really matter? If you care about OPSEC and your threat model requires you to worry about things like that, you should setup a "normie machine" to keep it separated from your shady online activity, our digital persona, whatever you wanna call it.

>>106392987
>You will need it if you plan on using the MS Store
You can log into the MS store or Xbox app without logging Windows itself into an MS account

>>106393074
Last time I did this it attached the account to my Windows anyway. Is there a trick to it?

>>106393100
Click on "Microsoft apps only" when logging into Xbox for example

>>106393100
>>106393224
As you can see my Windows account is still local even though I'm logged into Xbox

Is there going to be one last update of windows 10 iot before it goes into end of life support?

I'm on Windows 10 and I always have this issue where file explorer just gets slower and slower until I can't see shit.

>>106393323
are you sorting large amounts of files by date/type or whatever? same shit was happening to me

>>106393301
>he wants a farewell update!
Just upgrade to the Windows 11 already!

>>106393301
>one last update of windows 10 iot
If by update you mean a feature update, then the answer is no. IoT LTSC 2021 will be stuck on 21H2 forever. Although, you can manually install the 22H2 update on IoT LTSC 2021, but there is no point in doing so.

>>106393301
I sure hope not.

>>106393301
>Is there going to be one last update of windows 10 iot before it goes into end of life support?
Maybe I'm crazy but I feel like someone asked the same exact question in a previous thread
If you're talking about feature updates that would make Windows 10 more compatible with future software, no
By design, LTSC releases NEVER get any feature updates. It will never happen because it would be the opposite of what LTSC is about
IoT LTSC 2021 will get security updates every month until Jan 13, 2032, but absolutely zero feature updates

>>106392661
>he doesn't know

flow launcher or powertoys run

>>106392425
isnt the ssd killer update only for preview channel cucks?

>>106393614
They rolled it for everyone in the cumulative of august.

>>106393624
lol, so glad i went back to 10 the other day, i have pc full of wd drives

>>106388373
Between NTLite and privacy.sexy you should be guided through 95% of anything relevant as far as Windows settings.

For drivers, SDIO is shilled a lot but its actually ass.
You want to check the chip manufacturer's website (This means Realtek, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, etc. NOT whoever rebadged the part such as Asus, AsRock, MSI, etc.)
If the chip manufacturer's website sucks (Intel for example) look up Mokichu's thread on the Asus forums, or look up the WinRaid forums.
People say go to the motherboard manufacturer's website for drivers. Thats fine if you like installing the January 2021 version when August 2025 is available.

Some random tweaks off the top of my head, not in NTLite/privacy.sexy:
disable 8dot3 filename creation
disable NTFS last access time update

>>106393649
>For drivers, SDIO is shilled a lot but its actually ass
It solved all of my problems every time I’ve used it

Is Windows PowerShell worth digging into? I'm quite familiar with bash and the terminal in general on Linux, but I'm having to use Windows rn on a laptop of mine and I thought maybe I could learn something.

Also what's the usecase for winget on Windows? I love package managers on Linux, but I don't know about this one man.

am i a traitor if i want liquid glass to come to windows in an updated windows 7 theme?

Should I be worried about the SSD issue?
I'm afraid Steam will brick my computer trying to update a game, or I'll do it myself backing up photos from my phone or to an external HDD.

I know basically nothing about computers.

>>106394040
what SSD do you have?

>>106394040
>SSD issue
Is there a specific issue or am I out of the loop here?

>>106393983
>Windows PowerShell
Yesn't I recommend Powershell over Windows Powershell. But yeah it's useful, the problem is that it has a high learning curve though, because of it being object oriented, which creates confusion for people who are used to bash's string based way of doing things.
>Also what's the usecase for winget on Windows?
Batch installing windows software and getting it form the official source and batch updating.

>>106394073
a recent windows update is ruined some SSDs cause you know god forbid they test these before releasing them

>>106394040
the general advice is to avoid huge transfers because all affected models are still unknown

Alternatively, you can uninstall the update from Windows Update, although in some PCs the option won't be available

It is expected that Microshart will roll out a fix soon™

https://youtu.be/sU_WepeHUd8

>>106393773
something can "get the job done" and still be a piece of shit. SDIO is fine if you are happy with a ~10% chance a wrong driver gets installed and crashes your system. its fine, some people are too lazy to do things the proper way. you do you

>>106393983
you can also check out Scoop if you want something a bit closer to a traditional package manager

>>106394081
>I recommend Powershell over Windows Powershell
Oh yeah, completely forgot that they are two separate things.

>Batch installing windows software and getting it form the official source and batch updating.
Hmmmm.. Maybe I'll look into it. Kinda just sucks since I have already installed a couple of programs ""traditionally"", I'd like to either go all in or nope.

>>106394096
Damn, that really fucking sucks. Good to know though.

>>106394071
Good question. Does it say it somewhere in windows or do I need to check the bios?

>>106394213
>I'd like to either go all in or nope.
You have to get that out of your head fast you are using Windows. That being said you can always unigetUI If you want to manage multiple package managers in one utility. winget/chocolatey/scoop/etc

>>106394272
Fair enough.

>>106394152
Nah
Works on every machine I used it on. Dunno why you’re spreading misinformation

>>106394071
WD SN530

NOOOOOOOO

>>106395469
Roll it back. I just did it a minute ago. It's easy.

>>106390859
You will come to accept it. I say this as a lolicon/pedo.

>>106394040
Also, Microsoft changed auto-power-off for people's main drives in the Power Plans in Power Options. Go into the advanced settings in whatever plans you like to use and change the the setting from the 1m new default back to 20min old default. 1min is crazy, likely to wear out your SSD a bit faster, and it wastes energy on laptops.

>windows terminal
>clink
>winget
>everything
>ltsc 10 iot
Is there anything more comfy than this?

>>106395574
I just uninstalled it. How do I keep it from reinstalling?

>>106395690
Turn off auto updates for a month
Just a heads up, it will still be listed in the update history, but should be absent from the "uninstall updates" list if you uninstalled it.

(At least I think it's uninstalled)

should i update my iot ltsc 21h2 to 22h2? will i still get those security and cumulative updates?

>>106394040
It works on my machine!

>>106395469
>not blocking updates with a firewall

>>106395893
>not disabling automatic updates via group policy
the absolute state of /fwt/

>>106388444
>doesn't disable 8.3 filenames
>https://codecguide.com/media_foundation_codecs.htm
No real need these days, just install whatever player you want and Icaros. MPC-HC(and BE), VLC, MPV, any player you can name has come with their own for years.

>>106388444
>>https://ninite.com/
Just use winget

>>106389594
How did you uninstall them?
>Does the store save stuff at the MB level like the Windows license or something??
Nothing is, not even your license

>>106393454
Start menu

Is Windows still a steaming pile of fucking shit that spies on you and breaks on every update?

>>106396466
In my experience I've never had an update truly break on me. Plus it's incredibly easy to disable shit like telemetry either automatically through a program or manually via group policy or registry editing.

>>106395658
>>windows terminal
ConEmu
>>clink
pwsh 7
>Is there anything more comfy than this?
Yes

>>106396483
Yeah I still have a partition on my drive but, ugh, idk. I kinda want to go back because of that nice font rendering and having a UI that just works. But I really am having a hard time just imagining leaving Linux.

>>106395937
>How did you uninstall them?
I didn't
I did a supposed clean install and when I went and opened the store they showed up as installed with no way to remove them
Running Get-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online | Select DisplayName, PackageName they show up as Provisioned Packages among the regular garbage that comes preinstalled with W11
And they don't show up in the uninstall menu list like in my previous install

>>106395912
>VLC
my dear brother of African origin, please don't

>VLC
>ever
kek'd

>>106396627
>they show up as Provisioned Packages among the regular garbage that comes preinstalled with W11
Because they are part of the preinstall list? Pretty much everything that you could complain about has a GPO to disable it

>>106394993
Glenn Delahoy diddled my butthole when I was little

>>106396466
>breaks on every update
Install an LTSC release, they only get security updates and never get feature updates that break shit

>>106396667
>>106396677
Not him but I actually tried VLC again recently and was surprised to see it's not as shit as it was (didn't experience the video shitting itself when seeking for example)
I still mostly use MPV or the maintained fork of MPC-HC though

>>106395912
>>106396866
Have you heard of the Pot Player? It's objectively better than the MPV, the VLC, and the MPC-HC!

>>106396904
Isn't that closed-source?

>>106396866
>but users are too lazy/stupid to have a look at the options and player menus, or do a simple Internet search for help.
i will now use your software, unironically.

>>106396915
You bet your ass it is!

>>106396954
Ironically my dad had a Tesla Model S and he sold it because of how shit it was
Then inside panels of the doors would keep popping off and the trunk would sometimes refuse to open

>>106396954
>low budget vs. good budget

>>106396904
i tried pot player in the past but it had too many options and i dont remember if i could get hardware decoing with d3d11va

So what is it that causes about a minute of black screen before the login screen is visible, except in certain circumstances where it's visible off the bat?

>>106397164
Anon have a minute of black screen before the lock/login screen appears sometimes isn't normal.

>>106397164
A minute is pretty fucking long
But I remember that before I switched to LTSC 2021, at some point my screen started taking longer to display something when I woke it up after locking my PC and the screen turned off after a while. Hasn't done it yet since I switched to LTSC

>>106397164
Guess you could try turning on verbose login/shutdown in group policy to see exactly what's happening during that black screen.

>>106397182
>>106397230
>>106397243
FWIW, when I get to the login screen, logging in is usually instantaneous. Also, if either I had an update or a BSOD, then the next boot, the login screen comes up immediately, but logging in takes a while

>>106396904
Pot Player UI somehow sucks more ass than VLC

>>106396844
the ssd killing update was a security update kek

>>106398421
Nothing broke on my machine

im gonna do it bros...im gonna delete Gentoo and finally install Windows 11

>>106398559
>POV: you've finally installed Windows 11

I've done everything I could think of or search for short of a complete windows reinstall but this issue just won't go away no matter what. My last hope is that anyone here might recognize this issue.
At random moments, 5+ times an hour, I get these 100% disk usage bursts on my SATA HDDs if they're being used in any way (playing a video from them, running a program from them, anything that has even the tiniest amount of disk activity makes it start happening), and during these bursts it completely freezes whatever that disk is doing. This makes my HDDs completely useless for everything since every 10 minutes it will freeze whatever it is doing for about 10 seconds. Whatever is doing it does not show up in the resource monitor, the usual repair commands did nothing, installing a different antivirus did nothing, and I get no returns on malware, which wouldn't be likely anyway because I've had this issue since the day I finished building this PC and installed Windows 11 a couple months ago.
In the examples in this image I was doing nothing besides playing a video from my E: drive (which is the activity shown in the monitor), the exact same happens with the D: drive.

>>106398639
>not pictured: arch-tan weeping in the corner. aka being cucked
the joke os shes on another drive not being used right now. haha

W11 LTSC or should i use ctt utility to create a Microwin iso?

>>106398559
I did it 1 week ago. Deleted debian and installed the Win11 IoT shit. It works great. Still getting used to not working with i3wm hotkeys and the annoying PowerShell syntax, but so far so good. Windows can be great if you don't have their AI assistant crap

Something fucky going on
>MSI MAG Mortar B650M AM5 mobo
>2 NVMe SSDs
>first SSD is Kingston KC3000 with windows bootloader and a partition for Windows 10
>second SSD is WD Black SN770 with grub and a partition for kubuntu
>used to boot straight into the first drive
>something happened (maybe windows update)
>PC won't wake up from sleep anymore but reboots into grub on second SSD, then boots ubuntu which appears broken (pic related)
>boot order is reversed in UEFI, change it back and save/reboot
>works, boots straight into Windows
>sleep and wake up is back to rebooting into grub and having the boot order reversed in UEFI
Anybody have a clue what might be going on?

>>106398833
>should i use ctt utility
No you shouldn't

>>106398678
You can also check in CPU tab for processes with handles on E:
>Read speed 0 KB/s
>Write speed 0 KB/s
The drive has dropped out. Did you check connections? Are they SMART drives? Poor power supply can do that. You could also try test them from a Linux live iso to get an idea if its a software or hardware problem.

>>106399536
Just regular HDDs, nothing special. They're the same type so I guess it's possible it's a hardware issue, but if so that would suck since these weren't cheap or refurbished.

>>106399384
is picrel?

>>106399384
oops should read slower. anyway. try the unplug-from-wall-for-like-5-minuts mehod. werked for me surprisingly.

I'm looking ofr some kind of all in one app that does "network things" i don't really know how to describe it but there's a lot of stuf that happens related to the network that it would be nice to have info and configuration options all in an easily accesable wrapped up manner if it makes sense

>>106400440
Safing Portmaster might be what you're looking for

>>106396780
The paid HEVC extension is part of the preinstalled stuff?

>>106400440
You mean like a firewall?

I was checking multiple image viewing programs in the "useful software" pastebin, but I didn't find out how any of them could do what I wanted:
Is there any program that has the similar scroll behavior as web browsers, where you press the middle mouse button and just move the mouse to pan instead of holding the button down?
If there is, what is it and how do I enable it?
[spoiler]>inb4 just set your web browser as the image viewer[/spoiler]

>>106401441
just set your web browser as the image viewer

>>106398833
>should i use ctt utility
If you have to ask anons for their blessing first instead of just trying it, you're better off sticking to Windows 11 Home Edition

>>106396954
whats better, owning a shitty car, or borrowing elon's nice car?

>>106396844
>Install an LTSC release, they only get security updates and never get feature updates that break shit
LTSC 24H2 broke piracy for some games such as Madden NFL 20

Did something happen to win11 LTSC? Any recent updates?

Everything was fine until 2 or so weeks ago. I keep having this weird slowdowns where explorer/desktop performance will tank for a few seconds(literally moving the cursor or windows like if the desktop is running @ 20fps).
When this happens, my wallpaper will turn black until I restart Explorer.


I'm also losing fps in games for no reason. Games will go from 144 fps to 80-90 for 3 seconds then back to 144.

I'm monitoring everything you can think of (CPU, GPU, temps etc) and I can't see anything wrong.

>>106401761
Anything in eventvwr.exe?

>>106401761
>>106401589
>win11
lol
lmao even

>>106401807
A million of these actually, pic related
I disabled secure boot to test something a few days ago, I'll enable it again and see if the issue stops. If that fixes the problem, that's retarded af.

>>106377444
Just download MAS, run it and choose the change edition option.

>>106368241
What's with the influx of r/edditors this past year?
It's been a thing in more recent years but it's consistent nowadays. I wouldn't mind if it was the occasional troll but they're too persistent to just be trolls.

>>106368768
Report it to Github.

>>106401761
>>106402124
Could be anything at this point: latency issues (see whether LatencyMon can determine something), third-party shitware (especially those loading on boot/login like OEM software you don't actually need, or utilities hooking on each process, especially error-prone explorer shell extensions), problematic drivers (memleak??)
>I disabled secure boot to test something a few days ago, I'll enable it again and see if the issue stops. If that fixes the problem, that's retarded af.
The secure boot update logs are a nothingburger - can't update the variables when the function is off in first place

Any other concerning stuff in the "administrative events" view? Have you installed something recently that might've influenced the stability issues?
Might want to review the situation from a task manager perspective, especially the CPU/memory views in the performance tab. Additionally run process explorer/system informer utilities

>>106388444
>schizo script like shutup10
It's the furthest thing away from a schizo script.
It uses Group Policy so it'll never fuck with your OS. Been using it for a while on multiple installs.
ShutUp10++ and WinUtil is all I need.

>>106403153
ShutUp10 uses the same registry entries that Group Policy adds but directly to the registry and not through GP.

>>106395908
Yeah some retards here actually remove parts from Windows Update. They have absolutely zero idea what they're doing.

>>106395658
>windows terminal
WezTerm
>clink
pwsh 7
>winget
scoop

How long did this shit last when you guys upgraded? it's been 45 min now.

>>106403217
scoop is mediocre. if you have winget, you should just use winget since it bypasses the weird indirection scoop uses and their weird config persistence folder thing.

this annoying piece of shit spikes to 30% cpu usage whenever i do anything with docker or run a python file. it basically makes my PC unusable cause my ide and docker combined use around 50-60% of my cpu and then this piece of shit takes it to 90-99%. i've tried all the standard approaches from browsing google but literally nothing prevents it from doing whatever the fuck its doing. my nuclear option is a github repo that will just remove windows defender from my pc but is there a way to get it to stop doing this without resorting to that? this is crazy frustrating

>>106403629
ionuttbara's Defender Remover is what you gotta use. You can disable it as long as you want with it.

>>106403697
thanks, yeah thats the repo i was talking about. guess thats my only choice

>>106403556
I like that it keeps everything in the user folder makes it easy to transfer between installs. Winget doesn't have enough packages.

>>106403735
I guess. I don't disagree. I just think all of it is kind of shitty I guess. Wish we had NixOS for Windows at this rate (wishful as fuck).

>>106403629
is Windows Defender really this bad?
it doesn't seem to cause me much issue. At work, the Antivirus shit is absolutely insanely bad.

>>106403759
this just started happening in the past few weeks for me. reading reddit threads the sentiment is basically that you have to either just nuke defender from your pc or accept that it's going to randomly hog 1/3 of your cpus capacity whenever it feels like it. im building a new pc in the next week so im hoping the issue just doesnt happen on the new system.

>>106403759
Personally on my machines I don't even notice that Defender is running.

>>106403783
grim. I wish people would learn that AVs are a complete meme by now. Literally anything more advanced than file hash scanning seems doomed to fail. Never seen an AV prevent anything remotely malicious in my life as well.

sad!

I got hacked recently and it's about time again I go through the pain of the ass of reinstalling everything. Where can I catch up on downloading the entire catalog of security-only updates for Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021? I only got this one installed.

>>106403998
What happened exactly? I'm curious. Did you install something nasty and noticed it when it was too late - usually defender won't even notice if something is packaged properly. This is the funny thing about all this security nonsense.

>>106404603
I'm thinking it might have been as one-time infostealer, token stealer, or something else because all my scans with on-demand AVs and my process/network traffic comes up empty.

>>106368266
>>106368368
Damn. Windows 8.1 was my favourite windows. I guess I'll be stuck on iot ltsc for the foreseeable future.

WTF is this shit?
It's happening with other programs

>>106405139
I find that really hard to believe but if you are not using ublock with extended lists and tend to click around strange links.
I use porn websites and pirate games, but I'm clean. For my banking I'm using a separate browser.
I doubt anything could really happen just like that unless you run an executable.
Format your shit and restore a backup. Unless you're doing graphical work there's surprisingly little you actually need for a backup.

>>106405186
based Windows 8 appreciator

>>106405192
>chink spyware
ngmi

>>106405287
>>106405186
samefag

>>106405192
What the hell is Audient anyway? If you are a professional all you need to have is asio drivers and your expensive headset.

>>106405280
>>106405280
>>106405280

>>106402847
>this past year
Hello newfriend

>>106403629
Exclude the relevant folders

>>106405298
schizo

>>106405302
retard, web search Audient, it's no small thing