Thread 106369033

Let me guess, you "need" more.

$100 speakers are better than $1000 headphones. its just how hearing be

>>106369076
+$2000 of sound treatment of course

>>106369033 (OP)
Ive seen people use mr4 as their speakers. is it actually good advice ?

>>106369122
This. My room has shitty acoustics so without treatment headphones are better than 10,000$ speakers

>>106369033 (OP)
yeah I need a subwoofer with that

>>106369033 (OP)

i am thinking about new amp maybe 2026 or later

I'm happy with less actually

>>106369033 (OP)
I had these stored for years and recently I bought a small chink 100W poweramp and hooked them to it. Super comfy my senpai... https://www.mercadolivre.com.br/caixas-acusticas-aiwa-sxfn520yl-80-watts-6-ohms-bookshelf/up/MLBU1062579090

>>106369122
This is cope
Room EQ with a $100 measurement mic gets you 90% of the way there and way ahead of headphones

Unless you mix professionally you won't need the last 10%

>>106369033 (OP)
no less

>>106369033 (OP)
Much less as a matter of fact

i have some of those plugged into my TV, theyre alright
for the price theyre reasonable, i dont think any speakers in that price range are particularly good though

>>106369033 (OP)
Yes.

>>106369600
jesus christ wtf is that

>>106369651
A subwoofer.

>>106369655
*suprawoofer, as it's above

>>106369033 (OP)
I hate these. Not because they suck, but rather I tried to replace them with a set of $500 Klipsch bookshelves and they were barely any better. Then I tried a set of KEFs I found on Faceberg and was met with the same conclusion. Maybe it would be different used as TV speakers, but as computer speakers this was my experience.
I'm mad these butt ugly chink speakers have such a good sound profile for their price that I can't just toss them and forget about it.

Bought a pair of JBL speakers intending to make a 5.1 set at a later date, but they discontinued the entire line and even if I wanted to get the rest from another brand it's impossible to even find any speakers, let alone ones at reasonable prices where I am.
Shit sucks.

>>106369076
Incel.

>>106369651
SVS subwoofer, popular among the African Americans.

>>106369425
>Room EQ with a $100 measurement mic gets you 90% of the way there a
actually retarded

I do

For me, it's silence. Sometimes I hear the birds chirping, sometimes I hear the garbage truck. I don't understand music fags.

>>106371677
it helps drown out the voices

>>106371689
That's what they want.
To cut you out from your numen so that you'll only hear their daemons. Hear the voices out. Call them out on their bullshit. Try to find the ONE that speaks truthfully about what's in your best interest and begin listening to that and doing what it tells you to. Once you strengthen it, it will kill or drive out the others.

>>106369033 (OP)
>Let me guess, you "need" more.
Bookshelf speakers are the 4-cylinder Mustang of audio. Either step up to the V8 (floorstanding speakers) or just get a Honda Accord (headphones/soundbar). Anything in between is cope and cringe.

>>106371786
>car analogy
opinion discarded

>>106371792
No opinions were stated, only facts

>>106369506
I'm honestly fine with these. I bought some $40 budget iems that I saw in a thread here just to experiment and I've been using them for the last 6 months. I have much more expensive headphones but these cheap iems are basically just as good.

>>106371815
only fact is that you're retarded

>>106370423
A woofer on top of a subwoofer.

>>106369122
You only need treatment if you have too reflective walls and no furniture. Most living rooms are completely fine for speakers, especially in near field. Non-reflective rooms sound like shit and are only good for recording. Room modes are a nightmare to solve with room treatment but trivial with EQ.

>>106372084
>Most living rooms are completely fine for speakers
you havent seen most living rooms. maybe specifiy "most living rooms in westernized country suburbs" and you'll have a point. in my town the average livingroom has cinderblock walls. your bubble is not the majority global human experience

>>106372084
eq will do absolutely nothing for room modes

>>106369033 (OP)
i dont listen to music for a decade now
my religion says it is undesirable though not sinful
so i need less. when these speakers die i will only replace with something simple and cheap. no more than $100.

>>106372934
What religion? Church of Homosexuality?

Got these for my small desk and a sub8 subwoofer on sale
They just work

>>106369033 (OP)
Kneel.

>>106373082
>subwoofer
Are you black?

>>106373105
not bad, i still use these, bought them like 15 years ago

>>106373153
I tip my hat to you, sir. Logitech used to make good speakers, ones that last a long time.

>>106373130
No
I just listen to EDM a lot

>>106373069
الموحدون

This thread is actually super relevant to what i'm dealing with

I never gave a shit about audio, but after my Xbone broke and I switched to playing games (namely, Halo Infinite) on a laptops, I've been on a wild goose chase trying to find some sort of audio setup that sounds decent: 95% of all the headsets, earbuds, and speakers I have tried end up having all of the lower, booming, and echoing sounds way too loud, and the sharper cracks, hisses, and mechanical noises too low: it's as if entire component sound effects get turned on/off based on the output device

For Halo Infinite gunfire, the least bad things have been the Lenovo Legion 16AHP9's built in speakers and especially the Asus ROG Ally X with it's built in speaker/equalizer config (the latter has a more clear /nuanced"surrond sound" effect the former doesn't), but I've found it almost impossible to get external speakers for the laptop to sound similar

I've tried Creative Pebble V2's, various cheap speakers from Best Buy, the Edifier R1280T's (as seen in OP's pic), and I have Edifier MR3's i'm trying now, and even if I turn the Treble way up, Bass way down, do the same thing using the laptop's built in Nahmic equalizer software etc, the sharper noises still aren't clear enough, and then the lower tones are covered up too much vs the Lenovo's built in Speakers or the Ally X

I'm sure that with less simplified equalizer software that allows more granular tweaking of specific frequencies I could solve this, but I don't into Audio enough to know what specific frequencies correlate to what sort of components of the gunfire sound; and that for the component instruments of music to sound, that requires different tuning (that that doesn't boost highs/trebles or tones down lows/bass as much) to sound good vs gunfire

I'd unironically be willing to pay somebody who is into audio engineering to help me find specific speakers and equalizer software settings for what I'm wanting, email me at MajoraZ0000@gmail.com

>>106373565
Go ask /hifig/ (when it's up) for treble-forward/bright (tinnitus-inducing) speakers and a good subwoofer pairing. You'll also need an amplifier if you choose passive speakers.
Stop experimenting with equalizers until you get audio equipment that can actually produce the frequencies you asking of it with equalizers.

>>106371786
Good analogy. The V8 is for small dick betas trying to compensate.

>>106369033 (OP)
no

>>106373681
>and a good subwoofer pairing
As in, a separate set of subwoofers in addition to the speakers? If it will solve the problem and allow me to have both ends of the spectrum be clear without drowning each other out I'm open to doing that, but my desk space is limited and I do have the spakers like 2 feet away from me, so a single set of devices would be ideal if possible

>You'll also need an amplifier if you choose passive speakers.
I don't know what this means. As I said I never really cared about audio till now so I am stumbling through this without knowing a lot of the concepts and terminology.

>Stop experimenting with equalizers until you get audio equipment that can actually produce the frequencies you asking of it with equalizers.
How can I tell if this is the actual issue I have (the speakers being unable to produce the sounds I want) rather then it being an equalizer issue?

>>106373681
>treble-forward/bright (tinnitus-inducing) speakers
bassy speakers make my tinnitus worse

>>106373352
so i was right

>>106373565
>the sharper noises still aren't clear enough
High frequencies are very directional to begin with, and cheap speakers have even narrower beamwidth so it's likely that you just don't have the tweeters pointed directly towards your ears

Try different positioning or buy more expensive speakers. Coaxial ones are the best if you can't guarantee listening on-axis

>>106372733
>removes the peaks
>fixes the time domain
>nothing
Buy more bass traps to have worse results than EQ lol.

>>106375639
I have noticed that the exact angle makes a difference, in that if I lean my head down so it's closer to the surface of my desk more sounds come through on both the high and low end (though not enough to make it perfect), but it's obviously not realistic for me to lean over 90 degrees so my chin is on my desk.

I tried elevating the speakers on another pair of speakers, so they're more level with my head when i'm sitting normally in my chair, but that actually just made the sound worse, since I guess the desk surface transmits it better, or something?

>Coaxial ones are the best if you can't guarantee listening on-axis
The only "coaxial" thing I know of is a Coaxial cable, which isn't what you mean, probably?

>>106369157
headphones are by design mono speakers. there's no stereo effect whatsoever.
a bad stereo effect from stereo speakers might still be preferable than none.

>>106369033 (OP)
>doesnt have auto shuntdown
>wastes $50 worth of electricity per year

>b-b-bu
No, you don't need that.

>>106376022
When they are directly on the desk the surface reflections are very significant so would need a different EQ than when raised

Read this for a quick overview:
https://blog.zzounds.com/2019/10/11/coaxial-studio-monitors-in-the-real-world/
But the tldr is that their sound changes a lot less depending on the listening position

>>106376142
Utter garbage monitors, dont ever shill that again stupid

>>106376188
proof?

>>106369076
Oh how utterly clueless you are.
You must've been spending $1000 very wrong.

>>106369319
Sorry but that is utter garbage.

>>106372143
Have you tried not being poor?

>>106372934
>i dont listen to music for a decade now
You sad, sad sad soul. I feel sorry for how much you've been missing. It is one of the biggest joys in life. Especially when the sound quality is good. It can literally make you cry.

when did you realize the harman target was made for people with hearing loss?

>>106369033 (OP)
I bought the M60. I wish it had actual knobs for volume controls but so far it sounds good enough

>>106369033 (OP)
I have those exact speakers.
The ~90-180hz range is annoyingly high, but I've EQ'd it with Peace + Equalizer APO. After that, fantastic. I love the seething of anyone that paid more.

>>106371653
it looks like a go board

>>106369033 (OP)
1280T? My speakers.
>>106378711
I use APO + preset from ASR forum. Sounds amazing and wide.

>>106372934
this is what niggas who fuck goats say lmao