Thread 106382775

it's over

>>106382775 (OP)
>The tech giant stresses that this does not mean developers can’t distribute outside of the Play Store through other app stores or via sideloading — Android will remain open in that regard. However, developers who appreciated the anonymity of alternative distribution methods will no longer have that option. Google says this will help to cut down on bad actors who hide their identity to distribute malware, commit financial fraud, or steal users’ personal data.
So what the fuck does it mean then?

>>106382889
it means you sure are free to buy youtube premium because there will be no more xmanager, revanced, adguard, newpipe, but you see the platform remains open and free, open your wallet and free to buy a subscription that is

>>106382991
But seriously, I don't understand the situation and I read the article multiple times. It says "google will {make thing impossible} on Android. But Google stresses this does not mean {thing will be made impossible} because in reality it will just {????}"

>>106382889
it means you have to sign up to google so they can issue you a signed key that makes your apk executable in future android versions.
non signed apks wont be able to be installed. the signed key does not cost a dev anything but requires tying their real life identity to an account.
for 99% of devs this will not make a difference what so ever. they sign their apks with the key they get and continue distributing them on fdroid or as is on github.
it means however people that distribute malware are easier caught.

>>106382775 (OP)
This would, luckily, literally be illegal in the EU under the DMA.
This is the same level of malicious compliance as the bullshit Apple tries to get away and has repeatedly gotten throttled in the face for by the EU Commission. I'm expecting no different for Google.

>>106383043
Oh thanks, I see.
Wow, what a fucking scam. So it's basically impossible to compile your own android applications and install them on your phone without having a google verified account, and if you want to distribute a signed version of your program, you have to dox yourself.
I think it will make a difference, since you can just sign apks with your own keys right now, can't you

>>106383040
system won't allow to install apks that aren't notarized by google, and google will only authorize apks made by developers that they have verified, with contact, address and government ID

>>106383040
Try not dilating while reading it

>>106383081
you will still be able to compile them and run them in android emulators/android studio.
when it comes to running on real hardware though you will need a signed key in the future.

>>106383043
this will most likely only apply to official google phones and third parties such as samsung and huawei will still allow you to install third party apks without being signed.

>>106383049
i dunno but the days of the eu being reliable are coming to and end aren't?
since they keep trying to break encryption, and something like this sure would be a nice way to assert control
hope you are right tho

>>106383098
I mean duh, who cares about emulators? If I compile my own android application, I want to run it on a phone. And I'm not going to tie my FOSS releases to my fucking google account.
>>106383091
I hate the EU so much it's unreal.

>>106383130
>third parties such as samsung and huawei will still allow you to install third party apks without being signed.
What makes you think so? Like, thinking about it logically, why on earth would they do that? This shit makes it very unlikely normalfags install malware. You don't want to be the brand with the reputation of having malware, now, do you? :^)

>>106383164
>What makes you think so?
because they often come with their own third party stores.

yall are a bunch of dumb panicking normies, custom rom master race has nothing to worry about

>>106383142
>I hate the EU so much it's unreal.
im as govt hater as one can be without being a schizo, but the eu is literally the only that can stop this, just not sure if they will

>>106383180
Adults with jobs use their phones for banking and shit. You wouldn't understand.

>>106383180
unlocked bootloaders are next on the chopping block
if you think they are building an iron wall around you but will leave a big hole in the corner, you have not been paying attention

>>106383199
The EU is literally pushing for ID verification and scanning all human correspondence. I can't see why they would like to stop this. ChatControl is about to pass in like 2 months, and who knows what else they have planned.

>>106383176
They could just issue their own keys to devs and allow those in addition to Google's own.

>>106383043
You don't understand the nuance here.

Before:
> Developer distributes yuzu emulator apk anonymously


After:
> Developer distributes yuzu emulator apk after verifying their identity
> Nintendo subpoenas identity from Google
> Developer found suicided with 2 shots to the back of the head

>>106383249
Stop being antisemitic goy it's for your safety

>>106383243
then devs have to verify with more entities and corporations, and this >>106383249 just subpoena samsung instead of google

>>106383249
Uhm, sweaty, could you please stop being transphobic for just one second??? The word is self-unalived. I'm literally having a panic attack rn because of you.

>>106383208
you can use banking apps on a custom rom dipshit, i agree it does take some time to set it up, also if you complain and are worried abpit this it means you already want to tinker with your phone, i dont get it ?

>>106383230
i know all that and i understand your point, i have bug doubts myself, but i also know the eu is several different institutions that not always coordinate and as a result as a block it acts as a bipolar that sometimes wants to control the minutiae of what you do on your phone, and others is the international corpo wrangler that sets the limits that somewhat benefit the users
i hope this falls on the latter, that's all im saying, knowing that the chances are not necessarily there

>>106383305
>>106383097
>>106383266
is this really all you people have in your head? how do someone live like this? you are just missing a bbc mention

>>106383229
people will riot, dumb fud inducing nigga

>>106382775 (OP)
First they took away root access and now this. What's the alternative now?

>>106383360
From what I observed, the EU will pretend to care about your privacy with practically irrelevant measures (which often just make your life worse, think fucking cookie warnings), and people eat that shit right up and think of the EU as le good guy. Then, the EU comes out with age verification and chatcontrol, both of which absolutely invalidate every "pro-privacy" measure they had before because they're practically direct quotes from 1984. For anything that ACTUALLY MATTERS, the EU is horrible. Free speech, privacy, rights, you name it. It's all a big facade.

>>106383180
/thread

>>106383408
>people will riot to keep unlockable bootloaders
lmao

>>106383049
So apple has complied with it even though that was exactly what they were doing in the eu? Or still doing it?

>>106383321
I want to be able to install FOSS apps, apps not available in the EU, and I want to be able to mod, compile, install, and release binaries of other apps. I also need several banking apps to work, and I can't afford to go full tinker tranny on it and have it get fucked once an updoot comes around. I never rooted my phone and almost everything just worked so far.

>>106383381
And yet, you, a troon, are 100 times more deranged, because you think you are a woman when you are not a woman and you are a man.

>>106382775 (OP)
This will 100% be able to be disabled in developer options.

>>106383049
>>106383199
Lol. We actually have the EU's Digital Services Act to thank for this new requirement. They're not going to do shit to stop it.
>>106383142
>I hate the EU so much it's unreal.
Ding ding ding

>>106384516
>bb-b-b-b-but m-muh EU m-muh brivacy
>a-at least we're not amuricunts.....

>>106383581
its not your phone unless you root, its theirs and you will do what youre told, sorry, thats how it is

europeans always complaining about burgers and yet it's them that brought about the end of the internet

>>106384840
Ok we get it you don't use banking apps because your mom makes tendies for you every day

>>106382775 (OP)
Can't you just root it and turn off the VerifiedCheck.exe

>>106383420
>what is the alternative to a monopoly

lol
lmao even