Thread 106385439

Is CS a meme degree? I've been considering dropping out and going into the trades because I'm worried I'll be in debt for the rest of my life if I keep going and can't find a job

>>106385439 (OP)
Yes. Luddites don't want to admit it but CS chuds are fucked and are being replaced as I write this.

yes.
but don't do trades unless you want to go to an oil rig or a mine for big bucks.

>>106385466
>but don't do trades unless you want to go to an oil rig or a mine for big bucks.
Planning on doing HVAC.

>>106385439 (OP)
learn to weld, or fix cars, cars are also full of computers and electronics nowdays so its a nice alternative

>>106385492
I was never a car guy. My family keeps pushing me to finish my degree, but I just don't know if the CS life even is for me.
>9-5 in a cubicle
>Sitting all day
>Crunching numbers, meaningless lines of code
>Working on software that has been around since 2000's, only make minimal changes
>Shitty boss
>Office politics

Just doesn't sound like it's for me.

>>106385507
Honestly you should drop out of college. AI will take most white collar jobs (especially programming) and you should be prepared

>>106385542
That's what I'm thinking I should do. My family is somewhat against it though. I'd take the rest of the semester off to work full time at some warehouse to save up for a beater car, and then get an apprenticeship afterwards.

>>106385567
Yeah the only programmers who are ""safe"" are seniors and people with a lot of experience.

yes omg i am going to be unemployed soon

>>106385507
Drop out, start a mobile bicycle repair service in your current uni area. Offer e bike conversions.

>>106385439 (OP)
Don't waste time and drop out op. No one is hiring programmers any more.

>>106385641
Again, my family wants me to finish the degree. I have a year left. It's a 2 year degree. I'm doing it for free because of financial aid.

I could finish it, but it wouldn't help me where I'm going. And the homework is soul-crushing. I absolutely hate the topics we're working on now and even looking at code makes me sick to my stomach at this point.

I'm doing a CS degree entirely for my own digital survival. They're about to turn all PC services into smartphones where you scroll like a retard and can only see what the AI "suggests" to you, so we must adapt to using open source technology. People should go to school do learn, not to "get a degree because a degree will get me a job" I never fell for that myth

>>106385679
Who cares, just drop out and ignore your family. are you a man or not?

>>106385439 (OP)
CS has always been a meme degree. (Unless you're designing hardware.)

>>106385691
I just don't want to upset my family desu

>>106385767
You sound quite gay. I don't want you to work in trades.

>>106385507
Blue collar work isn't much better
>7-3 outside
>Depending on what you do you could be working in the late evening/early morning
>Infinitely worse for your body than sitting in an office chair, most tradefags I know are completely fucked by 30
>Shitty boss
>Union politics

>>106385783
Hard work is cleansing for the soul, as they say. I want to come home sweaty and take a well-earned shower.
My cousin is taking up HVAC, and he says despite the hard work it's fun to be with the boys while installing shit

>>106385799
If that's what you want I'm not going to stop you. Just remember that most tradefags would give up the LARP the second they get into a comfy office job.

>>106385820
>comfy office job
Those don't exist anymore. AI took them all and you're trying to drag OP down with you.
Let OP get a trade job and stay safe.

>>106385439 (OP)
Don't get into CS. AI and 150+ IQ Indians will wreck your vaginas.

>>106385872
Thanks Anon

>>106385820
>comfy office job
Ah yes, a soul sucking 8 hours a day staring at screen. Crunching meaningless numbers for a corporation you could give less than a shit about.

Not saying that trades are any more meaningful, but again I'd rather do hands on than sit at a chair all day filling out excel sheets or writing meaningless lines of code

A cs degree must be good first sonething since the math alone is hard as balls even if you dont end up becoming a programmer.

>>106385799
If it's fun, then it's not hard work.

>>106385507
>in a cubicle
You fucking wish LMAO

>>106385994
I was just baiting kek. I don't know how the job market is.
Get your degree.

>>106385820
This, my friend is in HVAC right now and has repeatedly asked for referrals to tech/office jobs. It depends on what you want to do obviously, but there's always greener grass on the other side. If OP does decide to go through with CS, he should keep in mind that it is significantly harder to find a job than it was a few years ago. I don't know what the apprenticeship rates for HVAC are.

Sure, we're in a software bear market right now. Markets tend to be cyclic though, but sure perhaps it never recovers due to offshoring and ai. Thing is the trades are plagued by its own set of ills: onshoring (read: cheap labor/immigration) and ai. Yes ai, trades will are being replaced by that too, but the ai will be in the form of robotics and autonomy rather than chatbots. Houses will be made prefabbed in completely automated smart factories and shipped to the site in parts using self driving trucks. Surveying will be done by drone, autonomous excavation machines will prepare the site. Autonomous pipe laying machines will lay the pipe and drain lines to connect to water and sewage. Then autonomous cement trucks pour the slab. Finally the prefabbed house is shipped to the site and assembled in place like a fold out beach chair. Last thing is to apply finishings. This will be done using robots by attaching prefabbed parts like lego pieces.

No, employment prospects depend more on networking so you're fucked regardless of the major you pick.

>>106385439 (OP)
It is, but if people like you who are in it only for the money drop out of it we will soon have a shortage of entry level workers and it will stop being a meme degree
So please, by all means, go do trades

>>106386423
That looks like a living hell

>>106388870
>Yes software sucks right now
>But that doesn't mean trades suck either!!!
Thousands of Jeets and Americans alike are all fist-fighting each other for a CS job. That's far different than going into the trades.

Stop baiting. Automated robotics for trades are far away since it's not profitable to even make humanoid robots yet. Imagine deploying a robot to a home for roofing and it gets captured and turned into a sex slave. That's $1,000,000 down the drain and you have to rebuild a new one.

Blue collar work sucks. You never see any rich peoples or politicians kids working the trades is all I'm saying. No, it's for they goyim that fell for empty sayings such as "hard work is a virtue" hook, line and sinker.

Why do people think "software engineer" and "tradesman" are the only two classes of work in the country right now lmao

>>106389595

Kind of misleading. Behind every rich family is usually some guy who worked his ass off 100 years ago. They have simply had connections ever since. Any intelligent person that goes into a trade or hands on work should be leveraging that into a small business, and that's when the scaling and potential riches could happen.

>>106389617
>Why do people think "software engineer" and "tradesman" are the only two classes of work in the country right now
They're the only ones worth working. Everything else is too luck based or far too niche.

>>106389627
>Any intelligent person that goes into a trade or hands on work should be leveraging that into a small business, and that's when the scaling and potential riches could happen.
So in other words what you're saying is that the goal is to abandon blue collar work as soon as possible and switch to managerial and white collar work. Glad we agree.

>>106386423
Jew daycare

>>106389617
P much this >>106389652
There are not that many good jobs.