Thread 106386643

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

radeon won kys

>>106386686
erm

>>106386643 (OP)
i assume the owner of this is a teenager or rather has the maturity of one

>>106386701
>gpu lmited settings no one plays these kinds of games with
rape yourself nigger

>>106386715
I can play at 4k ultra in CS2 and have a framerate well above my 240hz monitors refresh rate, any pro would be happy with that performance and any more is just placebo
it’s simply not possible on Radeon

>>106386686
why do you keep posting this literally faked benchmark?

Monitor upgrades are such a confusing process

I know this looks better than what I had but I also don't like some aspects of how it looks, in particular the whites being eye-searing, and everything I configure seems to be ever so slightly off and leave either a faint blue tint or a faint green/yellow tint
And that's not even getting into HDR shit which I'm not even sure I should bother with because only Win11 seems to have half-decent support for it
It feels like there should be an easier way to do this

competitive tier FPS at 4K ultra, not possible on Radeon

>>106386643 (OP)
>wired mouse
>wireless keyboard

really activates the neurons.

>>106386747
get *clap emojii* a coloriometer. *clap emojii*

>>106386747
Lower the brightness.

>get a 5070Ti instead bwo!
300 euro (50%) more expensive for ~120% of the performance of the 5070
>get a 5060Ti instead bwo!
100 euro (16%) cheaper for ~60% of the performance of the 5070
>get an AMD Ra-ZION 9070XT instead bwo!
same price as the 5070Ti and it's not Nvidia so good luck with the driver support idiot, I've already burnt myself twice with AMD GPUs
>get the 9070 then bwo!
my bwother in Christ, the 5070 is 10% faster AND 100 euro cheaper you niggas are fucking mental

>>106386736
no it isn't. it only becomes placebo after 1000hz. 1000hz is one frame per millisecond which is the same as your IRL vision. totally perfect clarity and any blur you see at the refresh rate will be the same natural blur that comes from motion irl, also perfect responsiveness and input lag. and the first gpu to achieve this in counterstrike will be a radeon because of novideos cpu overhead

>>106386803
I will once I figure out how to make it not do that autodimming shit

>>106386813
you are coping

>106386823
>resorting to buzzwords
I accept your concession

>>106386812
Wait for the 5070 Super bro. If you can see your desktop now then you should be able to see your desktop until the end of the year. That kind of product can promise to last you 3+ generations.

>>106386750
>comp fps
>4k

>>106386813
1000Hz monitors will be wasted in CS2 because Valve can't fix its performance-related issues.
https://x.com/ropz/status/1958667158512443838

>>106386840
only NVIDIA GeForce can deliver competitive tier framerates (300+) at 4k

>>106386840
anything less than 500hz on cs2 you might as well not even play since you are just disrespecting the game and everyone else by not taking the game serious enough and running it at acceptable fps

>>106386848
which NVIDIA GeForce can do at 1440p ultra

>>106386848
>>106386846
what monitors are they using at lan again?

>>106386861
what GPU does the current top CS2 player “donk” use?

>>>106386014
Do you still have your old card by any chance? See if you have the issue there.

>Most of the posts ITT so far are just nvidiot and AMDrone shills advertising their respective gpu brand
Mod please just delete pcbg already and filter new threads from being able to be created. Dead general that has just been shills and fanboys for years. Put this shit out of its misery.

>>106386854
wow, I was going to buy an AMD Radeon 7900XTX because someone on /v/ told me it had the top performance but this has shown me they were lying, now I’m going to purchase an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 32gb, thanks anon!

I love my 9950x3d

>>106386872
piece of shit spamming shill

>>106386872
who ever pays him sponsorship money to use their gear.
If you are talking pro players, the more relevant equipment is going to be their mouse, keyboard, mousepad. They are all playing on the same monitor they use at lan and they are all going to be using the same computer at lan.
If amd sponsored CS2 they would be using all amd computers.

>>106386902
People are allowed to repeat a point they made in previous threads.

>>106386914
your point is literally a lie see this post >>106386913

why do the best not sponsored or bribed e-sports players have Radeon GPUs in their home systems?
probably because they know Nvidia GeForce is nonviable for competitive games due to frequent crashes, stutters, poor frame pacing and driver timeouts that make it impossible to compete

>>106386913
NViDIA doesn’t sponsor CS2 tournaments, TOs picked GeForce.
The pro players have a lot of say on tournament PCs.
PGL switched to X3D CPUs because the pros asked for it.
Some tournaments use Intel CPUs die to sponsorship, like last major using Dell IPS monitors.

>>106386927
I didn’t say that and the other guy is wrong.
Quite a coincidence how NVIDIA is sponsoring every top tier CS2 player in that case.

>>106386952
It really doesn't matter. I've known pro players that started out with shitty prebuilt computers from best buy that their mom bought them.
The computer is a small part of actually being good and getting into the pro scene.

a pro player using a 5060 Ti is still going to sht on people using way better hardware.

>>106386952
>>106386977
and here is my prediction of what black ops 7 performance will look like

>>106387009
Is this joke that the render window crashed on the Radeon so it's rendering nothing and achieving those high fps

Are SSD enclosures a scam? Will I actually get 10Gbit/s (1000mb/s) speeds off of an older NVME drive like the Samsung 980 in such an enclosure, through a USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 port?

>>106387034
990 pro

>>106386978
NVIDIA doesn’t sponsor any CS2 players

>>106387034
Check some product reviews, you might find a good one.

>have new oled monitor
>try playing vidya on it
>watch it dim itself during any kind of explosions, like shitty shonen anime on tv do cause of seizures
>only stops if i set it on sRGB Mode (not just sRGB, the OSD's sRGB Mode) which locks all the color settings and gives everything a piss filter
>this is apparently a thing innate to all oleds and nobody seems to mind it
what the fuck man
how are you supposed to do like photoshop and editing work and shit when you can't trust your colors

I switched to NVIDIA after R9 270. Do Radeons still suck ass?

>>106387128
theres newer oleds with true black "400" modes that dont aggressively dim itself, but will on the 1k nits mode
then the new tandem oleds prob dont either

oleds are aimed at entertainment, not work. Serious color graders will use mega expenvive rgb oled monitors that probably require a subscription service to operate. Most stick to IPS

>>106386643 (OP)
best case for slimy feet

>>106387143
>oleds are aimed at entertainment
But how when it kills itself at any splashy particle effect?

>>106387156
what oled monitor you have

I get some shitty-ass lag in games related to my SATA storage. I have to disconnect them in windows disk manager before playing anything competitive. Thinking about offloading all of the HDD to USB DAS. Are these things reliable?

>>106387175
looks fire

>>106387161
PG27AQDM

did anyone see a 12 year old with a knife and axe come through here?

>>106386845
>>106386848
Is counter strike really that fucking sweaty??

>>106387156
Every time a rollercoaster goes down a track it wears it out and eventually requires replacement of both parts but it's still entertaining people while it's alive.

>>106387215
At the high end for sure. But I bet the average kid playing it on steam has a laptop with a 3050 and runs it at 1080p60 though.

>>106387226
Solution: maglev rollercoasters. Considering cost of OLEDs, I rightfully expect SOME longevity.

>>106387193
updating firmware should reduce the aggressiveness of abl, another trick I saw using custom hdr brightness which helps a bit
checking some reviews a lot of people seem to mention abl, but its an older gen oled.
PG27AQDM has weird brightness curve where its super bright 900nits at 10% window, and <200 nits at 50% window

a new tandem oled XG27AQWMG has 578 nits at 10% window and 357 at 50% window, so you can expect the experience of seeing bright highlights to be way different.

>>106387215
nobody in this thread is playing at a level where it matters

If my card is going to take up 3.5 slots, why not make it a big blowfan design that would put hot air outside and not straight into my CPU cooler? Use mini DP/mini HDMI like workstation GPU do to have 2 slot hole for exhaust at the back.

Also I think the modern GPU' short PCBs look gay. Looks cheap, like I'm getting scammed.

>>106387294
>AIBs finally adopting flow-through designs for better cooling
>nevermind we can't do that because anon says it looks gay

>>106387323
nvidia did a flow through design and its the noisiest 5090 you can buy
so what was the point of flow through

>>106387294
yeah man, like that tiny, wheezing fan will make any difference when the card already have 3 fuckhuge fans

>>106387336
because they also made it 2 slots instead of 3 like it should have been
its a miracle that it doesn't catch fire running 600 watts in 2 slots
>oops it does catch fire sometimes anyways
but the point still stands, its an objectively good design despite nvidia's other retarded decisions

>>106387336
better cooling, at the cost of cooking the aircooled cpu
which is why people are doing weird shit like aio as intakes for the cpu

>>106387361
There's literally space to make 100mm wide 50mm thick blower fan.

>>106387432
Hmm... nyo.

>>106387294
reverse your fans

>>106386885
this, ban pcbg
all hardware advice and questions should go to sqt

>>106387294
A partial blower design like the Acer a770 would be interesting
A full blower like what you're asking for wouldn't be viable since blowers have only a tiny cross section where cool air hits the heat sink and parts of the fins that are behind this initial section don't really help in cooling because air would flow past it and the small bit of air that does hit it was already heated up at the earlier sections of the fins

>>106387336
Expand it to 4 slots and it would overwhelmingly be the best cooler on the market just like the prototype 4090 flow through cooler GN showed

>>106387571
it's 4 fucking slots you damn know you can fit heatpipes and vapor chamber there
laptop manufacturers manage with only 1 slot thickness

>>106387596
and they only have to cool 50W

>>106387637
50*4 slots=200W

>>106387596
The blower fan eats up a significant portion of space that could have been used for the heatsink
And pushing air over a long heatsink cools less efficiently than pushing air over a wide heatsink. You can beat physics in this case.
Sure you could brute force 600w of cooling with 16k rpm fans, but it sure as hell won't be quieter than the 4 slot GPUs we have today.

>>106387659
>can beat
can't beat*

665€ most expensive model is about 850€
Now i understand that there has to be a reason for such disparity but at 660... its taunting me
It would be such a massive upgrade but then again i dont really play anything that my 3060TI can't move.
Being poor is a fate worse than death

>>106387659
>replace farthest fan with blower to direct air outside
>seal up farthest end of radiator and stupid hole in backplate
>keep the two rearmost fans to bring fresh air in
>use miniDP with adapters (included) to maximize rear exhaust hole
Here.

>>106387686
Your suggestions are interesting and also tested to work by Optimum, but it requires custom made vents for the specific case it's being installed in which is counter to the very idea of modular ATX
If hot air bothers you so much then you can get one of the available niche blower models and it's even only 2 slots thick

>>106387470
That's not how it works you little shit.

>>106387785
why not?

>>106387830
You'd cause turbulence with those front fans and the GPU blows hot air to the side, so side fans might be better at this point.

>>106387903
>turbulence with those front fans
put plastic sheet then to separate the front fans
>GPU blows hot air to the side
>so side fans
well, I already ordered a case without any

>>106386750
Anything past 144hz is fucking retarded even at 4k the frametimes are already low enough your just comparing Cock size at this point and you need to kys

>>106387931
Well, sucks to be you then.

>>106387294
this is the most retarded problem we have and they dont care about fixing it i think we need a bracket which lets us mount a small and a low speed fan such as a 60mm right behind the GPU exhaust (the back plate of the case) thus it wont be able to interfere with the display cables in that way itd be enough to clean out the hot air which was created by the gpu and released into the system

>>106387931
why did you buy the most retarded dual tower cpu cooler ? buy something which lets you mount a fan in the middle or at the end and it will solve your "dual way vent" problem

>>106388213
it has a fan in the middle
its super annoying to take out too (not mine but have friends who bought it for some reason)

You now remember back when the 50-class Nvidia GPUs were of incredible value and could run every contemporary game really well.
>750/Ti
>1050/Ti
Blessed times.

>>106388235
if the 5050 was $199 it would be good value

Hello sirs please thank you sirs. Is 9070XT the best option for the foreseeable few months, at least? I'm upgrading from a 2060 so anything is a great improvement, but I'm mildly interested in rumors about 9080 coming out Totally Very Soon. Overall I don't really give much of a shit about raytracing, and where I am a 9070 XT costs like 850 bucks on the low end while a 5070ti costs like 1000 bucks on the low end.

>>106388351
9080 isn't happening

>>106388351
At the price point of the 9070 XT you might as well wait for the 5070 Ti SUPER to come out around the same price with more VRAM.

>>106388371
Given that GPUs make it into my country by way of mysterious Kyrgyzstani men buying truckloads of GPUs in Germany or whatever the fuck, there's no telling how much a 5070 Ti SUPER will cost. It may well cost more than a 5070 Ti just because the vendors feel like trying to charge more for a newer product.

>wait for le next gen/refresh
How about we let anon play vidja right now?
>>106388351
Get the 5070 if it's cheaper than the 9070XT. Same price get the Radeon.

>>106388381
enlist

>>106388390
Eh, I really won't mind waiting some months, I trudged along on a 2060 this far, and I already got a pleasant upgrade in performance from swapping out my mobo, CPU and RAM this summer (had a 6700k and 32gb DDR4, went to a 7 7700 and 32gb DDR5, suddenly HoI4 fucking zooms along). It's the matter of price to performance that I care about, and the inherent unpredictability of waiting for new cards to appear, be priced at what they are supposedly meant to be priced, be parallel-imported into my country, and go down from initial hype and overpricedness to anywhere near MSRP vs just getting a 9070 XT while it's cheaper than it was a month ago.
>>106388417
No. I pay taxes to let other people enlist.

>>106388438
piggy, you will be in a drone video

>>106388450
You're mixing up ethnic slurs. As to be expected from a non-competitive racist. Go back to /pol/ retard

I really like the corsair graphite cases. Their design reminds me of some equipment from some construction site. Also portal games. Are there new cases following similar design?

>>106388459
piggy is oinking while he buys NVIDIA GPU that’s profits will go back into drones and shells to slaughter more piggies

>>106388459
>D tier racist doesn’t know that Germans have been calling Russians pigs since WW1
lmao

>>106388514
>germans
>calling anybody pigs, a filthy animal in their faith and culture
sounds implausible

>>106388213
not mine, my case arrives today I will be putting shit inside of it
I have Arctic Freezer 36 which has the easiest fan mounting/reversing method

>>106388118
I will just leave side open

>>106388198
so blow in and blow out radial fans, I like your thinking!

>>106388477
Corsair cases are nice, I had a 500R, but then I took a North in the knee.

I wanna build a cheap but reliable pc for my sister
she has a master's in linguistics and literally only uses word and powerpoint. sometimes she uses zoom for online seminars
but I also have an arc b580 laying around and the most demanding game she would ever play would be elden ring (g.r.r.m fan). I think she also is thinking of streaming her own seminars.
I need recs for cpu, motherboard and case preferably for a micro-atx form factor.
Budget would be about 500 bucks

>>106386643 (OP)
Is 200€ for an ECC capable mobo with 8+ SATA3 slots worth it? There aren't many models available and I'd have to order them from china. I am planning a budget NAS

My SSD used to cost 75 bucks and I got it for 50 on sale in 2023. Right now it costs 100 not on sale. What the fuck is happening to storage pricing? Games are getting huge, so clearly there should be more demand, bringing the price down, because they can be mass produced and still ensure they get sold because everyone wants storage space for their PC or playstation?

>>106388736
why not just get her a mini pc with something like a 8745HS?

I did it, Installed two NVME drives.

>>106388780
same
i got a wd black sn850x and stalker 2 went from taking 10 minutes to compile shaders on boot to 3 minutes

how good is this?
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
Sapphire PULSE AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT GAMING OC 16GB
ASROCK A620M Pro RS
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black
G.SKILL 32GB KIT DDR5 6000MHz CL36 Flare X5 AMD EXPO
Apacer AS2280Q4 1TB
Montech GAMMA II 750
Montech AIR 100 ARGB Black

>>106388804
you want to spend a bit more and get 6000CL30 RAM but otherwise a decent budget build.

>>106388749
shes bought 2 mini pcs and both broke on her after a year, both for mobo issues
she is done with mini pc for the time being

>>106388804
it's an okay build for a gen alpha kid, you are pretty good at this.

>>106388933
oof shit well i'd say grab like a 14100f or 5600
example intel build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2nTkQd

>>106386845
>5070ti equivalent
terminally cucked

/v/ has a tendie problem and /g/ has a amdumb problem. Both groups have suspiciously similar behavior.

>>106389021
The switch and switch 2 both use nvidia.

>>106389035
>Nvidiafags are nintendo redditors

I've used two AMD GPUs. Never again. Nvidia or nothing.

Should I run my 8600G at 6000 1:1 or 7200 2:1?

>>106389150
6000 1:1, 2:1 is only worth it at 8000

>>106389154
at 6000 I get around 5-10% less fps using the iGPU. I have no dgpu.

>>106388736
is it 500 bucks for the cpu, mobo and case alone or for the entire thing?

>>106386643 (OP)
Man, I just love saving money

>>106389211
Jensen would want you to buy the 5090 version instead.

Why does everyone still use DX11 when Vulkan or DXVK is so much better? I literally doubled my fps in PSO2 just by switching apis. I'm sure the counter strike fps problems of recent too would be fixed if players switched to Vulkan on Linux instead of using DX11 on Windows.

I just want to say, I have a 5600x and rtx 3070 build since 2021 to play games in 2k at 120-144 fps on a 27" monitor and I think my conclusion is that it's not worth it.
I've actually been considering going back to 1080p 60fps on a 24" monitor.
Hopefully this leads to way less tinkering, a more affordable rig and above all, the tranquility of feeling able to play absolutely any games for at least 10 years or so.

>>106389217
Nobody needs more than 16gb of vram and 10752 cuda cores

>>106389275
All you need is OLED. It could be a TV or Monitor.

>>106388477
Reminds me of my sony walkman in the early 90s and the underwater lego sets

>>106389275
if you upgrade to a gpu that cost about the same as 3070 did during crypto years + 5600x msrp at launch youd be looking at 5070 super + 7800x3d and be better off buying 4k monitor than 1080p

>tranquility
maybe you're part of the console market and dont know it

I've used three Nvidia GPUs. Never again. AMD CPU + AMD GPU or go buy a fucking phone or nothing.

>>106389345
>maybe you're part of the console market and dont know it
Mouse+free games+modding

Shieeeet.
I just accidentally formatted around 300gigs of shit, was fucking around with my disk partitions, now my designated software drive is cleared, nothing I can't download again, but still, damn.

I guess I'll just have to find out when I encounter a broken shortcut.

>>106389443
>free games
You can call it Piracy, anon, it's okay and we all partake in it

>>106389519
I got several dozen free free games form epic and gog

>>106386701
THE 5090 OR 6000 BLACKWELL ISN'T EVEN ON THE CHART.

AMD SISTERS IS IT THAT BAD?

>>106386845
>>106386840
Wait I didn’t know that, so if I play battlefield 6 at my lg c2 I’m capped at 120hz only?

>>106389525
Those are mostly slop, honestly. Indie titles nobody cares about, ancient AAA games, old(er) AA games, etc.

>>106387294
>design that would put hot air outside and not straight into my CPU cooler?
skill issue, loop chads aren't air cucks

>>106389526
>Expensive GPU beats cheaper GPU
Water is wet

>>106389519
I find piracy very inconvenient in year of our Lord 2025. With all the early access and constant content patches, it's just inconvenient. I want to play Cyberpunk on my new rig, but instead I play RDR2 because it was on sale in Steam.

>>106389505
Fuuuuuuck, my ebooks...
I stored them in that drive too...

It's over.

>>106389577
handy recovery can at least get you list of files reliably

>>106389570
I find it more convenient to not pay 79.99€ for a game I may or may not like. Installing a game repack has never been easier and faster with high speed internet, powerful CPUs for decompression and very fast SSD storage.
Yeah it's still worse than just clicking install on Steam and then playing your game some minutes later, but it's alright. Nothing like the good old days of mounting and dismounting 20 ISOs in the correct order to install Sims 2 with all expansions.

>Day6 waiting on G80SD - update has not moved since the 22nd
expected delivery tomorrow, as it has been since ordered date

>>106389610
I remember the times you needed Alcohol 120% to emulate protection properly.

Anyway, I don't buy AAA games unless they're discounted, 20 Euros is my cutoff. RDR2 is typically 80 Euros, now it's 20, so I bought it. I remember Cyberpunk was on sale. I'll just wait until that happens. I'm not against piracy it's just if it is not in my library - I will eventually forget I have this game installed.

Jensen is my role model.

>>106389566
How come AMDsars don't have a GPU that's good?

Serious question for the Nvidia shills out there: What do you get out of it? Is it any fun rooting for a monopoly? Sure, they’re the best, but where is the fun in it? To me, it’s like seeing a fighter continue to punch the opponent after he’s already unconscious, it’s just sad. We should want a good fight, not to see a grown man beat a toddler to death.

how long is nvidia gonna torture me until they release the new super cards?

>>106389696
25c per post

>>106389705
Right until your balls turn blue.

>>106389705
You literally just bought Blackwell and now you want more already? Ur dumb. You should be mad they’re making your card obsolete so fast

>>106389737
I'm on amd, schizo

>>106389785
lol why?

>>106389905
>schizo can't fathom people that buy different brands, in his mind everyone must be a loyal fanboy to some brand

>>106388527
absolutely imagine just like a dual tower cooler but the fans are placed differently im pretty sure some engineers thought of this and designed stuff but mayhaps it failed... it can merely exist as a mod now the best we can do is 3D printing

>>106389905
your mom gave me a good discount at the time

>bought 14600K + B660 + 4070 Ti Super
>sold old 7700K + Z270 + 1060 6G
>new GPU/driver burns eyes out at worst
>turns me to sleep in 1 hour of use at best

I swear I am going to sell this shit and buy used AM4 Ryzen and 1080 Ti to slap my old Windows on if this shit continues. Why can't these niggers keep color/brightness/refresh rate of video output consistent across generations?

>>106389625
You're going to find something to complain about that monitor and return it anyway.

>>106389696
The Radeon GPUs are becoming more competitive; NVIDIA & AMD have different business strategies for their gaming units.
NVIDIA is always developing the next new feature. AMD adopts it if their biggest customers (console manufacturers) want it.

>>106389951
u wat

>>106389696
What do radeon niggers get out of shilling basically unusable pieces of trash? You're going to ruin a kids build telling him not to buy an Nvidia card.

>>106390011
I fucked up subtle balance of hardware and software that was comfy on my eyes since 2017 and now I am suffering. https://ledstrain.org/

Chat how's nvidia's new control panel compared to the old shit?

>>106389951
Lol
Imagine buying an old GPU instead of just changing your image settings

>>106389696
>Is it any fun rooting for a monopoly?
I used Radeons until R9 270 then they stopped making sense and I used NVIDIA ever since. I bought Intel 14th gen last month by the way, because AM5 X3D are overpriced to hell and back here. Needing Cyberpunk mod for AMD optiscaler to work until recently, tells me everything I need to know about current GPU market.

NVIDIA is overly leaning into AI shit and before that, crypto, hurting gamers. That's a fact.
But AMD is leaning into their current CPU monopoly, cannibalizing foundries for their CPU market at the expense of GPU production. Fucking 9060 used to cost same as 5070 Ti here on its release. And the prices are still not down.

When Radeons have same performance, features and stability as NVIDIA, and most importantly - availability of stock and pricing, I will start buying them again.

I know this will all go over your head because you're a shitter that promised to "rape this thread" because you were cucked out of baking your flamewar one, but I'm not just only saying this all for you personally.

>>106390080
It hasn't changed in over 10 years

>>106390064
I have had those since 2017, yes. I've imported my backed up NVIDIA profile with NPI tool already. And still my eyes are bleeding.
>>106390085
I'm not so sure it's software anymore.

>>106390098
sigh.. not that one

Do I get a "27" AOC Gaming Q27G42XE" screen or a "MSI G272QPF E2" ?

>>106390129
I would like to buy Q27G3XMN if local lazy faggots would like to ever restock them.

>>106389951
>didn't boughted am4
ngmi, we told you

>>106390142
I actually shilled him a 14600kf but thats not his problem

>>106390126
the NVIDIA app lets me force dlss4 globally and that’s all I need

>>106389998
>You're going to find something to complain about that monitor and return it anyway.
You will have the option to ask me questions in more day
The most possible things that can go wrong are the 1) DP blackscreens 2) if it has any form of forced refreshes
if not, considering the price (599€) I don't think things will get better, only option was the S81F that I never saw in stock but went up too that was 499€
I have a long return window so we will investigate this thoroughly

>>106390159
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

>>106390129
I'd pick the cheaper one, or one with better product return/warranty service.
Few monitors in that price range have good factory color calibration.

>>106390161
>I have a long return window so we will investigate this thoroughly

>>106390117
If you can't fix it with "software" try to adjust your monitor .

>>106390126
Its the only currently supported nvidia control app thats usable and I'm sure they will ruin it too is they ever care enough
I hope that awnsers your original question

>>106386704
stop hating people for enjoying minecraft

>>106390205
>If you can't fix it with "software" try to adjust your monitor .
I don't understand why going from 1060 to 4070 would have me adjust anything on the monitor when NVIDIA profile is exactly the same, but I guess I can reduce the brightness some more.

>>106390129
I'd take the MSI as it's IPS-based. Budget VAs outside of 1-2 models by AOC that aren't that one tend to not be well tuned to deal with the danger of dark smearing intrinsic to the tech.

>>106386715
Radeon sisters, when will Hardware Unboxed get around to debunking this Daniel Owen video filled with lies?

>>106390226
I just went from 1660ti to a 4060 and it didnt change anything for me.
Unless your GPU is defective I it shouldn't change at all

>>106390265
well I had to reinstall drivers, because 532 somethings that I had came out before 4070 ti super release
when I rawdog plugged it into old system, the GPU wasn't recognized until I installed 566 something drivers

>>106390279
>he fell for the never update meme

>>106390298
I really doubt NVIDIA was making any driver updates for PASCAL in the last 5 years. Or do you mean I should get drivers newer than 561? I really doubt this would resolve anything, but I guess I can try.

>>106389505
This is just not my day....

After I rebooted my PC since I gave up on restoring files, it wouldn't boot since I copied my boot drive.

Had to use ChatGPT and a windows media tool to help me copy over bootfiles from cmd....
God BLESS AI that it managed to work. holy fuck, I'm retarded.

>>106389566
Water isnt wet, retard

FUCK ARGBTQ+
I WILL NOT BUY A FISH TANK
GIVE ME A NONDESCRIPT BLACK BOX WITH NO LIGHTS IN IT
FUCK GAMERS

>>106390369
Low end has plenty of those.

Is it just me or is skatterbench a complete fucking retard?

How good is the 5070ti for 4k gayming? DLSS performance is ok to include. 5080 seems like a scam

>>106390369
I just bought a box for 30 euros and need 20 euros worth of black arctic fans because it has 4 gay fans in it that can't be ungayed

>>106389696
Nvidiots have no concept of morals or honor. They would buy gpu from Satanas himself as long as it is the fastest and has the most stupid AI gimmicks.

>>106390435
>morals or honor
Can you run LLM on those?

>>106386747
>I know this looks better than what I had but I also don't like some aspects of how it looks
various osd settings and brightness and what not, you don't need to use an image you don't like even if it's accurate or not or whatever idk
>in particular the whites being eye-searing,
oled?
turn down brightness?
due to the contrast it's probably causing eyes to dilate alot too idk
>It feels like there should be an easier way to do this
every thing has a downside or not and everyone complains about things they don't like about specific tech/monitor/display

>>106386840
more pixels = more vision
running 1280x res you can't even spot players in certain spots due to the holes not rendering in the graphics that allow you to see through
it's over for pixelcels
even esportschizos know 1440p is better, soon 4k

>>106386845
>NooooOoOo I can't play at 100fps
I logged into hl1 a while ago and remember it has a 100fps cap

>>106387128
should only happen in hdr 1000?
enable uniform brightness and or run sdr
why would srgb mode have anything to do with it? unless it turns on sdr?
or turn off hdr

>>106390080
according to techyes city it introduces system wide lag

>>106389951
based late stage schizophrenia anon

>>106390311
Pascal was supported with the latest driver up to at least last month.
If you we're on the latest driver before you switched the cards you wouldnt be wondering if it was the card or driver right now

>>106389951
Return 4070 ti super and buy 9070.XT or.fuck.urwelf

>>106390064
Return ur novideo and buy 9070.xt or fuck ourself

>>106390159
Return and use.fsr4 9070xt or.fuck yourself

>>106390226
Return 4070 and buy 9070 or fuck urself

>>106390422
9070 xt or fuck.ur whore cunt

What's up with the mainboards of now, especially the AM5 platform?

It's either 200 bucks plus, and only then will you get a decent sound codec solution.
Otherwise you will have the shitty very old ALC897, wtf?

>>106390541
Buy 9070 xt and use amd gpu sound card feature.noise suppress or.fuck.urself

>>106390541
Buy a $50 sound card

>>106390524
I remember I updated on Pascal because PoE2 told me "obsolete driver" and had same eyestrain issue, went back.

Upon further investigation my 1060 was on 441.66, then I upgraded to 536.23 and my eyes started to hurt.

I still have non-DCH 441.66 driver but it supports RTX 2000 at most. No wonder it did not recognize 4070.

>>106390422
For 4k 5070ti is probably the best option other than a 5090. With performance DLSS you shouldn't have too many issues.

>>106390129
>>106390554
9070 xt performance fsr4 or fuck urself

>>106390541
No no no no, not only AM5. It's every motherboard now. You get shitty ALC987 everywhere. Cheapest new AM5 with ALC1220 (S1220) is TUF GAMING B850 and cheapest 1700 is ASUS ROG STRIX 760-G. Both are ~$230.

If you can find used Z690 or X470 (AM4) then it would be cheaper.

>>106390541
Just buy a focusrite like everyone else or a SSL 2 MKII if you want a fancier one.

>>106390568
>performance fsr4
>Is usually worse than DLSS 2/3 at low internal resolutions
>Still not comparable to transformer
Fuckin lol

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLMTT7-rfeM
>I test your budget motherboards
>puts 9950x in them
>hurr... VRM is too weak
I bet everyone was wondering if they can cheap out on a motheboard for a high-end cpu
not if whatever shitty design is adequate for 65W

>>106390579
Better than the Creative Sound BlasterX G6?

>>106390552
Then get a 2080ti and don't fall for the 1080ti meme

>>106390635
>t. Assus licker

>>106390635
>Yes just buy the low end mobo + 7600 xdxdxd
>You'll definitely be able to upgrade to an x3d later when they're discontinued and $120 more expensive xdxdxd
>No you shouldn't just buy intel and sidestep this entire issue xdxdxd.

>>106387931
Lmao

Putting together a new build, don't really have a budget per se but everything is around the amount I was looking to spend, am in the US. Mostly just looking to see if anything I have here is retarded or should be avoided?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wRF6Wc

can I buy a fucking asrock motherboard already?

>>106390879
AM5?

>>106390816
?

>>106390889
yes

>>106390914
No

ain't no fucking way, amd drivers broke on some games on windows 10 and the firefox popout player crashes game and window manager, back to the laggy w11 i go
i hate computers

>>106390879
Yes. And it was a never a problem but a service since Asrock was helping users to weed out weak silicon while they're in warranty so that they can exchange it for a better one

>>106390906
I'm laughing at the drawing; not because it's wrong. Don't be insecure

>>106390940
I feel like problem was blown out of proportion and a lot of user mistakes were blamed on it

>>106390869
Literally me build. Looks good to go. PSU seems just fine for an otherwise upper mid tier build?

can I plug usb c 3.2 gen 2 from my case into a gen 1 header?

>>106390869
>Cooler
Fine if you're reusing it but you can get a dual tower for less. Or go up to a big AIO.
>Mobo
It's a good board but probably overkill for (I assume) gaming.
>RAM
There's cheaper kits with the same timings (and 1.35V).
>4TB HDD
With the savings here you could easily afford a cheap 4TB SSD for bulk media. Cuts down on noise and some games lag if you have a HDD installed.
>Case
It's nice and all but you really don't need all that space for an air-cooled gaming build.

Amended list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MnWQHW

>>106390435
>>106389696
I mostly do it for turd world tears like yours. Stop being poor

I just fucking wish AMD was green and Nvidia was red.

>>106391223
paint your gpu then, who cares? red is best colour anyway.

>>106391195
Its soo cringy watching a shitskin muttmerican write shit like this, while they dicksuck Njudea.

>>106391065
>>106391179
Thanks for the responses!

>>106390646
1080 ti is 180 euros
2080 ti is like 400 euros from Amazon

>>106391298
>Scamazon

CPU UPGRADE ADVICE

Looking to upgrade my CPU as it is definitely holding back my PC's performance. I play games like Elden Ring, Deadlock, CS and Cyberpunk. Budget is around 200 to 300 and I live in the US.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3fqdb

>>106391325
Update your bios and drop a 5700x or 5700x3d in

>>106391348
ya I do need to update my bios for sure, aren't the 5700x3ds out of production?

>>106391387
Want.

>>106391387
I'd krak in her kitten, if you know what I mean.

>>106391387
I would pet the kitty.

>>106390906
I've ordered 2 more case fans and I'm going to do this.
>>106391323
I live in shithole. Ebay is behind 30% customs fee.

>>106390446
>more pixels = more vision
>running 1280x res you can't even spot players in certain spots due to the holes not rendering in the graphics that allow you to see through
>it's over for pixelcels
>even esportschizos know 1440p is better, soon 4k
I agree, but the fact is pro players aren't going to go past the res / dimension of the monitor they use at lan. That's why they are still running 24.5" 1080p tn panels.

>>106391383
Buy the 5700X or the 5800XT, I would get the XT.
Do not buy the 5700 non-X, it's got an inferior CCD.
https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700x.c2755
https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700.c3305

>>106391411
What did he mean by this?

>>106391444
alright sick ty

>>106391387
>ugly chink with cat ears
Who is this for?

>>106391464
Don't overpay for the 5800XT btw, I'm recommending it based on current US prices.

>>106391464
And don't freak out about the 5800XT's higher power draw.
You can always set a manual PPT limit of 88W in the BIOS to match the 5700X's limit.
5800XT has a better base & boost clock.

>>106391504
Alright thanks. Any recs for a cooler as well that would go with these?

>>106390636
yeah, external ones like the focusrite and ssl are used by even professionals musicians, vocalists and voice "actors". I had my last internal soundcard back in the 00s, the external ones have been good for 10+ years now and they've upped their game further in the last 5.

>>106390869
thread after thread after thread for months on end, and they still pick the corsair E psu with the taiwanese uncles insted of the x with the japanese high school girls

>>106390869
use ASUS TUF 850W powersupply or RM-X Corsair or Cooler Master MWE\MPY Gold V2

>>106391623
Thermalright is the standard recommendation.
Peerless Assassin V3 has newer fans, Phantom Spirit has an extra heat pipe (7 vs 6).
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vZfV3C/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-v3-7084-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120se-v3
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwGhP6/thermalright-phantom-spirit-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-black

Alternative brands
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RN62FT/be-quiet-pure-rock-pro-3-596-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk041
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rV9wrH/scythe-mugen-6-dual-fan-6029-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-6000dbe

Those two Thermalright coolers are generally better at cooling Ryzen CPUs, the other brands might have better-sounding fans.

>>106391504
>And don't freak out about the 5800XT's higher power draw.
NTA but I was told 14600K needs 360MM AIO and would still burn my house down.

Picrel is 14600K on all defaults, just undervolted a bit, with Arctic Freezer 36 on 1200RPM.

>>106391623
Arctic Freezer 36 is great if you can find it cheap, around $30-40 I guess?

>>106391712
>NTA but I was told 14600K needs 360MM AIO and would still burn my house down.
An air cooler is fine for the 14600K @ stock settings or undervolt, but it's a good chip to OC.

>>106391753
If Z790 mobos weren't €350 here, I might have considered AIO.

i boughted 5090 gaming trio because it has a dragon on it :)

>>106386872
E-sports fags are all tards who don't know anything about tech. Bad idea to follow to their example.

>>106391798
>it has a dragon on it :)
only the chosen ones can see the true form of the msi dragon

>>106391798
Looketh closer... what doth thine eyes behold?

>>106389443
Those are whatever. The real reason for a PC is
>emulators
>strategy games
>obscure doujin/indie shit

>>106391878
Heavens no...

are OLED burn ins a thing if I buy the newest one rn

>>106392013
commercials used to be wild

anyway, yes, but the severity, usage time before such thing happen and your personal tolerance of said thing would add more variables that are kinda hard to determine

Daniel Owen confirms that path tracing is the only way forward in his new filler video, RDNA-bros how we holding up?

>>106392013
comparable questions, "Is TN viewing angles solved yet?" no they are still shit but better on modern panels

"Is VA smear solved yet?" no but it's better than older panels

"Is IPS glow solved yet?" IPS black improved it but it's not good

"does Oled burn in?" it's inherent to the tech and pixel death but it will improve due to more resilient tech

it will never be solved, just mitigated or improved

every display tech is shit, choose your poison

>>106392060
>>106392114

i basically use the pc 20 hours a day and leave the task bar unhidden, anyway even if nothing really happens my anxiety would be unbearable so i guess not for me

>>106392122
>taskbar
Right.

>>106392130
don't out me like that..

>>106392114
and by glow I mean contrast really, rather than contrast, or blb

>>106392122
unless the price is justified to the point it's worth the upsides compared to the downsides
if you run 20 hours straight you also need to get a good panel which not does autorestart like a retard every 16 hours like alot of current monitor firmware
or you buy a cheap oled tv and run it nonstop for 3-5 years until it gets worn down by dead pixels and burn
which then you could apply one of the oledmaxxing strats such as 1) use your free panel replacement from vendor like LG as far as TV goes 2) get extended X year warranty from your Retailer and use it

or just look at your LCD slop

>>106388477
I miss my White 600t so much bros....

I have no idea what I'm doing with regard to building a PC, and I'm slightly retarded to boot. I just want a desktop that will be able to handle modern games (1080-1440 is fine, I don't need 4k) and handle heavy emulation (i.e. 7th gen and later)
I'm in Canada, my budget is 2500-3000 CAD, which is 1800-2200 USD iirc. That could go up to 3500 or 4000 CAD depending on how long I hold off on picking anything up.

>>106392189
Since I'm lazy this seems to be close to your budget something like this https://youtu.be/Xj-8Zftcetc?t=294
would give oyu a rough idea

>>106392091
never heard of him, don't care. Memetracing was always a shortcut by lazy devs.

Once again, reminding you shit-eating cucks, that Helldivers 2 has the best functional light engine in videogames today (on pc), key word, functional, as in it looks amazing while you play, as opposed to screenshot simulators like cyberpunk where you stare at walls to compare SS's.

>>106392189
additional viewing content qrd some months old now though https://youtu.be/VCNr2rVyNDo
+ current status of GPUs this month more up to date vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MibPqGDShPU

>>106392287
>Memetracing was always a shortcut by lazy devs.
Cope and Seethe. It's literally the only way for graphics to improve + it will/already has made games cheaper and easier to make
It's not 2018 anymore

>>106392321
Why would I, the consoomer, care if games are cheaper/easier to make? That isn't reflected in the price of games, suck my dick.

CPU Retail Sales Week 34 '25 (mf)

Ryzen ASP approaching 300 Euros

Units
AMD: 3395 units sold, 91.39%, ASP: 299
Intel: 320, 8.61%, ASP: 241

Revenue
AMD: 1014437, 92.94%
Intel: 77049, 7.06%

By socket
AM5 => 2805 Units
AM4 => 590
1700 => 200
1851 => 120


this is a total disaster if intel doesnt unfuck itself in the next 2-3 years

>>106392398
Trust in the Intel war chest + trump, sir

Do any of you guys know how ASRock's releases work? This board seems interesting but so far it's only available in Japan. Will there be a global release? Their product page and announcement state nothing.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B850%20Challenger%20WiFi/index.asp

>>106392091
Not much longer till this comes out and you njudea shills can stfu forever. Redstone will be on the driver level and therefore moddable into all older games with optiscaler btw. Kys

just when I bought a G80SD the PG32UCDM(Z) dipped down to all time low as it was 10 months ago (1030€), with additional 70€ AYYsus cashback available, bringing total price down to all time low 960€
do seem like alot of sales happening

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>106392471
>Redstone will be on the driver level and therefore moddable into all older games with optiscaler btw.
You're going to mod in 1, 2, and 4 with an optiscaler type tool?
>>106392332
Means less slop that's broken on release needing a year of patches before it's playable.

>>106390027
What do njudea kikes get out of shilling basically unusable pieces of trash? You're going to ruin a kids build telling him not to buy an Radeon card

>>106392498
I know this is a bit, but I genuinely struggle with my RTX 3070 waking from sleep.

I don't get it how did every CPU get slower?

https://www.techspot.com/review/2911-intel-core-ultra-9-285k/
https://www.techspot.com/review/2915-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/

Testing rig setup, drivers, all are basically the exact same. The results are published a week apart.
What's the explanation because I'm seriously confused.

I also don't get that he said the 285K was tested with less time, but even more CPUs were tested than for the X3D which didn't have any notes saying they were time constrained.

>just watched a jayz vid on flashing gpu bios for free performance
Why don't more people do this?

>>106392547
because most people have 1 gpu not 100

>>106392561
Elaborate

>>106392540
>I don't get it how did every CPU get slower?
CPU limited tests have more run to run variance than gpu limited tests. Also windows

>>106392540
are they the same games, are they the same patches on games, same os? same installs?

tldr steve walton

>>106392547
no one cares about fafoing for that dogshit
just flip another burger and buy a higher tier gpu

>>106392547
You're basically only getting an increased power limit. Also the cards especially this gen are already running past the peak efficiency point, you're going to double power draw vs an "undervolt" for like +10% max in actual games.
As far as I know it's literally impossible to brick a recent card with a bios flash, probably want to have a second card ready to go for recovery but if the bios is incompatible what almost always happens is that you'll still get output until you try to install drivers.

>>106392644
>better performance AND it draws less power
yeah I'm flashing my shit bros

>>106392714
On the 70ti you don't need to, just manually set something in afterburner.

>ADATA XPG LANCER BLADE RGB 32GB DDR5 6400MHz RAM (AX5U6400C3216G-DTLABRBK)
Redpill me on PMIC & On-die ECC.

>>106392727
I'm doing it on a 5080 and you can't stop me

>>106392775
Have fun I guess, 3dmark is the only place it'll actually make a meaningful difference though.

>>106392775
>>106392809
Oh and try to upload your original bios, maybe it's different now but earlier this year there was like nothing on tpu.

>>106388971
damn, thanks anon
looks perfect actually

Can 48GB (24GB*2) DDR5 kit be single-rank?

>>106386643 (OP)
Why is no Fractal North on the list?

>KTC
What chink magic is this?

>1440p monitor
>RTX 5070
>play everything in windowed native 1080p
>comfy window, not overwhelming immersive experience
>less VRAM usage so 12GB is no problem
>can turn settings down without noticing because 1080p window is smaller than full 27 inch monitor, even less VRAM usage
>can instantly alt tab to 4chan for maximum overdrive 180Hz shitposting
Am I an ultra genius or terminally retarded?

>>106392398
intel most popular socket cant outsell amd's last gen

that...

i mean LOL this is worse than amd fx era

>>106392853
Yes, they're single rank, 24Gb ICs

>>106390869

that psu has a defect.. dont get it.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/corsair-says-audible-clicking-noise-from-its-psu-is-completely-safe-will-give-you-a-new-one-anyway

>>106392905
North and Epoch have a slightly worse case frame compared to the Meshify 3 (slightly obstructs front fan airflow).

>>106393086
According to reviews it's nothing drastic. So just arbitrary decision of pcbg?
Because I really prefer the look of the north, do have to checkout the Flux Pro still..

>>106392953
Because early AM4 buyers can buy a Ryzen 5000 CPU instead of going LGA1700/1851 or AM5 for entry/mid-tier gaming.

>>106393112
>So just arbitrary decision of pcbg
North has the inferior fans and frame.
Epoch has 120 Momentum fans with an inferior frame.
Meshify 3 has 140 Momentum fans with a better case frame.

If a case/component/monitor isn't in the OP, it doesn't mean you should avoid it.

>>106393112
I forgot to add that the North & Epoch's top panel limits the AIO size to 240mm.
There is a noticeable jump going from a 240mm AIO to a 280mm.
>Just put it in the front
Suboptimal.

>>106393091
>>106393091
>>106393091

>>106392930
>has 1440p monitor
>plays on 1080p
that's two strikes in a row for the terminal category sir

>>106393163
>>106393185
Neither have dust filters at the front in current year.
Who and why would buy that?

>>106392731
Every consumer-grade DDR5 memory module has on-die ECC (corrects errors within the memory chip) and a PMIC.
It's not the same as server memory sticks, where they have a dedicated ECC chip in the module, and the server CPU's memory controller supports ECC for end-to-end coverage.

>>106393352
Guess they listened to GN Steve or someone else about maximum airflow.

>>106393367
Excellent for the detached reviewer, horrible for the average consumer.
I'd never buy a case without dust filters, it's just disgusting.

What did redditors mean by this?

>>106393355
So it's just marketing that they listed it and similar Kingston kit would have it too?

>>106393493
appeal to poorfaggotry

>>106393523
Yes, it’s just marketing features that every consumer DDR5 memory modules have.

>>106393599
Keep rationalizing paying more for the same performance, someday you'll get it.

>>106393659
>same performance
>literally has less fan spin and ramping
>has cooler temps
it's exactly not just that though
if you hit me with the reliability point I could buy that but

>>106393600
Okay thanks, saved me like a $30 with this.

Buying Power Supply. How retarded it is to spend an additional £75 for HX1200i over RM1200x SHIFT. Latest versions of both (I think). Non-negotiable choice on these one of these two.

>>106389525
>>106389519
In my case it was definitely piracy, but yeah I sprinkle it with some Epic games.
>>106389570
Yeah sometimes I buy games just because I'm too lazy to download updates manually, they're also not always available.
>>106391922
Oh right I forgot to include emulators, if there's one thing I'm kind of ashamed of it's that I revel more in the same old games.

>>106392114
>every display tech is shit
Wrong. MiniLED is OLED light without the burn in drawback. If you buy anything else you're retarded

>>106393673
for me, i simply don't like the look of aios, the fact that they'll stop working in about 5 years and would need to buy a new one, and I grew up with air coolers so they are more dear to me
that and I have tinnitus so the slight noise fans make is nicer to me than the ringing I would hear with silent liquid coolers

>>106394706
>ringing I would hear with silent liquid coolers
just sleep with cinebench running problem solved
no heater needed in winter too