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Previous thread: >>106369174

>>106390318 (OP)
I have a weird issue which doesn't come from my monitor, I think it's the OS itself. When I scroll there's this white afterimage, sort of, on images and even text (if its black)

>>106390506
I'm pretty sure this is a known issue on OLED panels when you scroll through pure black (#000) pixels. It happens on phones too. But isn't this an issue of the display panel itself?

>>106390595
its IPS, didnt have this problem on Ubuntu, am on Zorin rn

>>106390606
In that case it could be a driver issue, or some other software issue which was fixed later on. Zorin is just a severely outdated Ubuntu with a different UI.

>>106390318 (OP)
>Linux

>>106390318 (OP)
I'm new to KDE. I noticed my fans went a bit crazy when the screen was locked, apparently it's due to a bug with qt6 which was fixed in version 6.9.2. Except, qt6 hasn't been properly updated for Arch-based distros in a month, and it's even flagged as "out of date" in the repos, so I'm stuck in 6.9.1. Maybe the xfcefags were right after all.

>>106391049
It's always Qt's fault. I love KDE to pieces and they've built a fantastic desktop but the toolkit doesn't half have problems sometimes.

AND I WAS LIKE LINUS LINUS LNUS OH
MY LINUS LINUS LINUS NOOO

>>106390606
>Zorin
Russian spyware

>>106393234
oh nooo some vatnik on the other side of the world with no jurisdiction over me can see my loli feet pics

What do you guys use for tiling windows in KDE Plasma? I want to finally make the switch from Awesome+X11 but I need my windows to be organized.

hey /fglt/ i've got a raspberry pi running openmediavault hooked up to at the moment a single 2tb external hdd.
this is an extremely slapped together and non-ideal nas setup but it's enough to hold my movies until i can build something more reliable.
what file system are we using on a single spinning disk data/media drive? any fancy stuff like raid or zfs pooling is out of my scope right now.
xfs? maybe? openmediavault can't really take advantage of any of btrfs' more advanced features but compression might help speed up handling of any non-media files? i don't really understand cow but i feel like it might be useful here too?
hdd is plugged in via usb and i have no ups or anything. so the only "features" that matter to me really are that it's fast so the only thing limiting my i/o is the usb connection and it should be able to decently handle sudden power losses.

>>106390318 (OP)
Why did blissOS, waydroid-linux beta, android-x86 just die off? Are they making things proprietary or what?

https://calyxos.org/news/2025/06/11/android-16-plans/
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114661914197695338
Google is doing everything in its power to kill its own open source community

>>106393859
Gutter level retard end users and general lack of interest.

>>106393955
They're just making Pixel hardware irrelevant.

>>106393490
>uses russian spyware
>is also a paedophile
I despise this website sometimes

>>106394127
fuck you too glowie

>>106393859
Android is difficult to maintain for a hobbyist and takes forever to compile

>>106391069
># sysctl kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone
>kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone = 1
I already rebooted

>>106394889
Here you go, anon. Kubuntu live CD, no changes made.
Commands:
$ sysctl kernel.apparmor_restrict_unprivileged_userns
$ sudo sysctl -w kernel.apparmor_restrict_unprivileged_userns=0
$ systemd-run --user --pty --property=PrivateNetwork=yes ping -c3 1.1.1.1
$ unshare -rn ping 1.1.1.1

>>106393955
Google trying to turn Android into another iOS for whatever reason is just incredibly stupid. People buy Android devices for the sideloading, dipshits.
Can't believe newer Android phones are gonna have to be fucking jailbroken.

just extracted something in the terminal for the first time, felt pretty cool. ark wouldnt for some reason, saying i had no space even though my drive had like 2 tb. i just did the unrar command and it did it no questions asked, goes to show sometimes terminal is the way to go

>>106396441
They're just shitting pants because Drumpfy is going to anti-trust them. Apparently they've been persisting in a reality vacuum where people buy Pixel phones for the hardware.

>>106396342
it worked, tyvm

>>106390318 (OP)

Should I fall for CachyOS shills?

>>106390318 (OP)
>works on my mac-KRASHES

>>106396733
Seethe harder for the growing irrelevance of your favorite DE, footfag.

>>106393490
Go back to Windows

>>106396937
>just two more weeks bro, kde will be stable and become the default desktop just trust me

>>106396722
If your cpu is not good enough for you gpu than yes. It's better than Arch anyway because it more packages without aur.

>>106391049
Xfce is crap. Just use gnome with the panel extension

>>106396206
I fucked up Steam on my Linux Mint PC, help pls

>>106397045
nigger i've been here since debian was the new hotness

I've heard that using AUR on Arch is a meme to invite eventual destruction, but what about using flatpak instead?

>>106397541
People say many things anon, sometimes they say things to make things sound worse then it is.
If you keep to the most upvoted packages you should be okay a vast majority of the time, but if you wanna use flatpak then use that instead. It's your computer.

>>106397482
If you had installed Bazzite, you would have gotten Steam for free.

>>106397541
If you uncritically install random shit off AUR like it's your phone's app store you're in for a real bad time. If you audit the build recipes and handle the config merges like you're supposed to it's fine, but one could argue it's a 'dig your own pool' situation now that you can just install the official flatpak or OCI image for almost anything.

>>106397655
I don't understand much of what you just said

>>106397710
Sounds like a (you) problem to me and you should get more educated

>>106397541
If you're just gonna use flatpak for everything why not install fedora? Or hell, install debian.

>>106397722
I mean if you just want to use Flatpak for most things you might as well use Aurora or Bazzite.

>>106397722
I never said everything. I'm just wondering if flatpak should be used over AUR when you want an application that doesn't exist via pacman

>>106397743
That's something only you can figure out because it's different for everyone. There's no objective answer.

>>106397751
Alrighty. So just try things and use whatever breaks less I guess.

>>106397763
Pretty much. Like I said before if you stick to mainly the AUR packages that have high votes you should be fine. You can also just go to the website and check the comments to see if some are having issues with building or what have you. You should also use a manager like paru to build/install things from the AUR because of its included safety guardrails.

>>106397541
Flatpaks work the same on all distributions.
>>106397763
The thing is AUR is a junkyard, pay attention on who's crap you install.

>>106397787
So is flatpak really. Anyone with a github can put something on flathub. The actual author can take ownership of their flatpak and chase shitters off, but sometimes they don't.

If it wasn’t for the tranny worship, I would be running opensuse tumbleweed.

Will the BusyBox website ever work or is it eternally unusable because jeets keep bombing it with tar.bz2 download requests 24/7? I feel sorry for busybox.

>>106393955
>>106396441
You'll still be able to side-load. Even Windows has installer certificates and it doesn't affect people who want to run random .exe files.

>>106397832
>Anyone with a github can put something on flathub.
Sure. After it gets fully reviewed.

>using a two monitor setup with sway if you have a second monitor on the left and its coordinates are negative you can not interact with any xwayland applications on that monitor since it doesnt like negative coordinate values
you have got to be fucking kidding me right, the only solution i have found is to set my left monitor as 0,0 and have my primary monitor moved to the right. this comes with its own issues since now apps detect my shitty second monitor as my primary monitor. am i missing something?
all the github, forum, and redditor solutions are to just swap the application to the primary monitor when you want to use it and its the most retarded shit i have ever heard in my life
does hyprland have this issue? because if not im switching
this is the first issue ive run into that has genuinely pissed me off because every forum reply about is has just acted like its a non issue with a simple solution of "just dont worry about it bro. just use this janky """solution""" that completely invalidate the reason for having a second monitor"

>>106398625
>using anything other than KDE Plasma or Gnome
At some point you have to realize that you're shooting yourself in the foot for no reason.

>>106398625
I'd test it if I'd find a xwayland program I could run real quick

>>106398711
i completely mispoke, its electron apps that do this not xwayland
>>106398690
tiling on kde is scuffed and i prefer configuration with a config file instead of a gui and while you can do it that way its not worth the extra hassle it puts you through
>gnome
lol

>>106398746
>its electron apps
I don't think I have one of those installed, so can't test it real quick.
Sounds like an electron problem, not a sway problem though.

>>106398768
after further research i recant my statement again, it IS xwayland windows that are the problem but i have apps that typically use xwayland already forced into using wayland so i didnt notice the issue. but i cant force some electron apps to use wayland instead of xwayland so im stuck
i think its a wayland issue because it has no way to declare a primary monitor that is not at 0,0, which would fix everything
but also why cant xwayland process negative coordinates?????

>>106397541
flatpak is for niggers, all you need is pacman and the aur. containerized niggerfication of computing will be the death of linux

i want to install linux on my pixel 8 smartphone
i only do it because i had enough of google shangians
which os are avaialable and how do i install them?

>>106398852
brainlet take

>>106398856
There aren't any because ARM development is a mess. The best thing you can do is install GrapheneOS and install a Linux distro within Termux.

>>106398890
what if i install grapehne os without linux?

>>106398841
>declare a primary monitor
as far as I know, wayland doesn't really declare a primary monitor.
Ok, found something xwayland:
Window 558f91768920 -> imv
at: -1762,91
xwayland: 1

seems to work here on hyprland. No clue if it works for all apps, especially those who want a primary monitor.

i got pixel 8 and i activated developer mod but i can't find terminal under developer tools, what gives?

>>106398912
then shit won't boot

>>106399103
is there a step by step guide on how to install grapehene without bricking my device?

>>106399110
there should be some webinstaller, porbably with instructions. It's supposed to be really easy.

>>106390318 (OP)
dabadi-dabadah

why was installing arch on my thinkpad easy while trying it on my desktop had me nearly pulling my hair out?

>>106399220
Pretty much any Linux installs super easily on Thinkpads.

>>106399220
what issue were you having? it shouldn't really be any different other than probably for gpu drivers and maybe a different microcode package

>>106399110
They literally have it on their website. You just need to unlock your bootloader in your phone settings, connect it with a USB cord and click 2-3 buttons in your web browser.

>>106399561
ok thanks

>>106398707
Based. Just use whatever is the best solution for the circumstances.

>>106399298
motherboard ethernet borked because apparently gigabyte is stupid
partition shenanigans
pipewire not liking me having both headphones and 2 different sets of speakers plugged in at once
and AUR being ddos'd
gnome spontaneously appearing out of gnowhere even though i swear i installed the same packages

Do you encrypt your desktop storage? What filesystem do you use?

>>106400247
no

Happy recent migrator to Linux, all good, its great etc. etc.

Now i want to play some of my Windows games (compatibility looks good from looking at proton db), but err they were obtained from the high seas shall we say, what's the best way to go about it? Do grab something like Lutris/Bottles and just point it at the .exe? Trying to avoid going down a rabbit hole.

>>106400326
>Trying to avoid going down a rabbit hole.
ha ha ha ha

>>106400326
You can add them on Steam

>>106400247
At some point I plan to secure erase my drive and then reinstall Linux using LUKS

>>106390318 (OP)
Is there any quick way to install a different DE on Mint and completely delete the default?

>>106400326
Bottles is the easiest option.

>>106400573
No. Not cleanly.
If you want to switch without reinstalling, just install the new DE, log into it and remove software from the old one with the software center. No need to "clean up" autistically, which always breaks things.

>>106399220
Because most people developing for Linux use Thinkpads.

>>106400623
And if I reinstall what how would I do it? (I dont want any of the default DEs in their website)

Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon
Looking for a way to change the file picker that appears when saving from or uploading to the browser (firefox)
Some google results said this is impossible but others suggest configuring the "portal", I tried many instructions but none of them seem to have changed anything.
The default file picker has no search and can't display images and videos as a grid of thumbnails, which makes selecting tedious

>>106400392
20 years using steam and never knew you could add non-steam games, worked great after toggling proton experimental. Thank you

>>106400646
Linux Mint should just put a disclaimer on their website to use another distro if thumbnails in file picker are important to the user.

>>106400705
i don't want to distrohop aaaaugh
is it really not possible to fix? install a different file manager? install a different DE?

>>106400713
It may be possible by playing around with xdg-desktop-portal config files in /usr/local/share/xdg-desktop-portal or in ~/.config
I wasn't able to get it working in a VM but maybe it's possible.

>>106400732
Or uh, /usr/share/xdg-desktop-portal actually. Anyway that its own tinker rabbit hole. Search up xdg desktop portal for info.

>>106400573
>>106400623
I'm using a different DE on Ubuntu. I didn't delete the original GNOME, but if I did it would probably be fine, because I'm not using it.

Let's say you want to install KDE Plasma on Mint. Then I guess you'd run something like `sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop`. Then disable your current DE in whatever way is required (e.g. for GNOME I think you need to disable GNOME display manager with `sudo systemctl disable gdm`). Then I guess you want to install and enable a display manager which would work with Plasma. Apparently SDDM does. So you could install SDDM then run something like `sudo systemctl enable sddm`. Then when you reboot you should hopefully see SDDM's login screen, with a dropdown in the corner allowing you to select a Plasma session.

How do AppImages work exactly? It says it's all in one file and doesn't install. So does it just decompress on run and then save all modifications and recompress on close?

>>106400973
They're basically like .exe files on Windows. Everything it needs to run is included in the AppImage and all you need to do is make it executable and run it. Something like AppImageLauncher makes using them very easy while also letting you add them to things like XDG menus.

>>106400973
no. the application is in a single file. it doesn't get modified, your user data is still in your home directory or wherever the app stores it.
it's identical to a windows portable .exe, or a macos .app applications.

>>106397482
Did you install steam through APT or did you install the .deb from their website?
An easy fix to all of this would be to just use the flatpak version of steam

>>106401007
So then it's not 100% portable like the site claims since user data is left behind.

>>106398690
>using gnome
LOL

>>106401027
No, it's more like you don't understand what "portable" means.

>>106397541
Not really. It's just that you're responsible for checking AUR PKGBUILDs to make sure there's nothing shady going on each time you install or update.
I would suggest using native packages over flatpaks whenever possible and only use flatpaks when needed.

>>106400247
I have an encrypted LUKS partition formatted with BTRFS. Used to also do LUKS with LVM and ext4 formatted partitions.

>>106401048
More like there are varying degrees of portable when it comes to applications.

>>106400646
You'll need to install and set up xdg-desktop-portal-kde
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XDG_Desktop_Portal#Configuration

>>106400973
Its a compressed file that gets mounted to /tmp with FUSE
You should be able to uncompress it manually yourself and check the contents

>>106401027
The binary is portable. Not the user data.

>>106398542
Are they going to review all your changes forever and ever?

>>106401502
>Are they going to review all your changes forever and ever?
Yes

>>106401502
>>106401566
honestly probably something AI could do easy

>>106401566
You seriously think some guy at flathub is tracking every Blender or Firefox release and gatekeeping each individual change before they let the appstream update? Are you retarded?

>>106401655
>can't count Rs in strawberry
>can instantly spot malicious intent
sure

>>106401692
99% of the time the changes are just one line diff that just bump the version number and update the checksum on the sourcecode hash. Package maintainers do the same thing.

>>106401778
Package maintainers are experts on individual programs. They often have to be able to backport upstream patches. There's nothing like this at flathub.

>Debian 13
>Flatpak
>X11
>Cinammon
>Replace Thunderbird with Claws
>Replace Firefox with Zen
Why does it feel so comfy?

>>106397482
Get the deb from Steam's official website and reinstall it

>>106401020
>unofficial flatpak
ISHYGDDT

>>106401692
>tracking every Blender or Firefox release and gatekeeping each individual change before they let the appstream update?
Obviously not and neither do almost any package maintainers. That's what github/gitlab are for.

>>106401877
>almost any
Turns out if you only have one, it's infinity more oversight than flathub has.

>>106401949
Why do you think flathub would need to have any oversight over what happens on a git repo? Someone is already reviewing the code and reporting any issues.
And do you really think some random untrusted project would be hosted on flathub?

>>106401863
>Get the deb from Steam's official website and reinstall it
Forgot to mention I already tried that, no luck
>>106401020
>just use the flatpak version of steam
That seems to be working, thanks!

>>106401836
Not really. You should look at the arch packages and how a large chunk of them are automated by one or two people.

>>106401863
>Get the deb from Steam's official website and reinstall it
>over the one provided by your package manager
ISHYGDDT

>>106401984
Read the post chain and come back.

>>106402146
That's why I don't use Arch.

>>106402092 (Me)
>That seems to be working, thanks!
...As in Steam is able to open, but I'm still getting the same issue where the games themselves won't start >>106380157

now that the dust has settled, what's gentoo with pre-builts like? is it as braindead as arch?

>>106402319 (Me again)
>the same issue where the games themselves won't start
...On the external NTFS SSD, that is - games installed on /var/cache work fine

>>106402319
I know you probably don't want to hear this, but I had the same issue where my Steam games didn't launch from a 2nd NTFS drive I had. The only way to solve it was to format the drive to btrfs (or ext4 if you'd like) and re-add the drive as an installation directory.
Obviously this isn't really what you're looking for since you're dual booting.

But just to confirm this; you did add your game library path to your "Steam Settings -> Storage -> Add drive -> Add custom location" ? And you did confirm that the path is still there after rebooting and that your game/windows drive auto-mounts on boot, before Steam launches?

>>106402464
>Obviously this isn't really what you're looking for since you're dual booting.
Reformatting the external drive would be fine because it only has the steam library on it right now, and I have a backup of all my save games and stuff
>But just to confirm this; you did add your game library path to your "Steam Settings -> Storage -> Add drive -> Add custom location" ?
Yes
>And you did confirm that the path is still there after rebooting and that your game/windows drive auto-mounts on boot, before Steam launches?
Not automatically but the drive was mounted before I started Steam

>>106400326
Bottles, Lutris, PlayOnLinux, whichever. Then use GOG, DODI, FitGirl repacks. Some games are already installed, so yes, just point them at the exe. Some other installers might not work, sometimes you need to have some components first.

>>106400705
Lmao.

>>106402319
NTFS will always have issues with linux and you would be better off just migrating to ext4

>>106402530 (Me yet again)
>>Obviously this isn't really what you're looking for since you're dual booting.
Oh wait, as in Windows Steam probably won't support btrfs well enough for it to work. Once again, please excuse my monumental retardation.
I suppose it's still worth a shot, though. If it doesn't work I could always stick to gaming on Windows.
>>106402621
Works fine enough for me to browse files, at least.

>>106402654
Windows only supports ntfs and fat. If you want btrfs/ext4 you need to manually install 3rd party drivers for those.

>>106402621
No, ntfs support is fine on Linux. I've been using an external ntfs HDD for almost a decade now, zero issues.
I assume Steam uses symlinks for some things on Linux, maybe that's why it doesn't work. If it's trying to install Proton on the ntfs drive it would just fail to work since ntfs doesn't support symlinks.

How do I do this bros
(The download is a tar.xz file)

>>106402854
You could just install it from your distribution if you're using Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu or Gentoo (and possibly other distros).

If not then something like:

tar -xf fatsort.tar.xz
cd fatsort
make
sudo make install

>>106390318 (OP)
Cases -f and -i, made all variables nothing. How can I fix that? Basically I want whatever argument that's not in the case list (*) to be added to an array. Thanks. (This is a part of a basic yt-dlp search/stream script).
f=(b[height=720]/bv[height=720]+ba/b/bv+ba)
i=10
search=()

for arg in "$@"; do
case $arg in
"-f" )
shift
f=$1
;;
"-i" )
shift
i=$1
;;
"$HD" )
f=(b[height=1080]/bv[height=1080]+ba/b/bv+ba) ;;
#other cases that work like the above, so not including them
"--"* )
echo "Unknown option"
exit 1 ;;
*)
search+=("$1")
;;
esac
shift
done

#as long as -f/-i isn't an argument it works, otherwise all variables are wiped
echo $f
echo $i
echo "${search[@]}"

>>106402819
>ntfs doesn't support symlinks
It does and you can make symlinks on ntfs under Linux with ntfs-3g, but that also creates a special Unix directory which standard Windows tools don't want to interact with.

>>106402978
Hmm, its behavior changes weirdly too depending on which order the arguments are placed.

>>106402978
Use getopt

>>106403012
Why?

>>106402654
>>106402819
It's a known problem that steam has issues with NTFS partitions on linux
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Steam/Troubleshooting#Steam_Library_in_NTFS_partition
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/wiki/Using-a-NTFS-disk-with-Linux-and-Windows

>>106402978
Does search="$search $1" work?
Both -f and -i are expecting an argument and without the argument it will just clear out the next arg

>>106403062
It will fix:
>>106402997
>its behavior changes weirdly too depending on which order the arguments are placed.

>>106403124
Yeah I want the argument following -f or -i to be what $f and $i get set to.
>>106403137
OK, I guess I better have a look. I'm just lazy, not wanting to learn yet another odd syntax.

>>106403225
You can debug the script with set -x to see what's causing the issue. You can also install shellcheck as well to check the script.

Should I try out KDE now, or wait until the next update in October?

NIXOS or GUIX OS?

>>106403225
As someone who can write a working argument parser off the top of his head, it's easier to use getopt(s)

>>106404068
Arch, because it will waste less of your time.

>>106403919
KDE6 is just fine. And so was KDE5.
There will always be an update coming soon.

>>106403919
It doesn't matter when you try it. There haven't been any noticeable changes in over a year and it's unlikely that the October update will bring anything important.

>>106404329
>so was KDE5
Only after 5.14 or so. The earlier versions were a buggy mess with frequent crashes.

>>106404068
Do you want Freedumb OS or Freedom OS?

Why does near enough every icon theme in the Fedora repositories never change the network manager applet icon when it's on a wifi connection?

>>106402978
You have to make a while loop for it

while [[ $# -gt 0 ]]; do
case "$1" in
...
esac
done

How do I install COSMIC SHELL on kubuntu 24 without compiling it myself?

>>106407076
is there no Cubuntu ?

hello historically Windows here who has become linux-pilled for various reasons but haven't pulled the trigger

I have an old PC that I'm going to nuke and start a linux distro on - sell me on your favorites

>>106407117
nvm im retarded

Anyone use btrfs + snapper on arch for rolling back updates?

>>106407122
If you're just coming from Windows and want a smooth transition, go with Mint

>>106407132
I set up grub-btrfs on arch but with timeshift, working fine so far

>>106407122 (checked)
>I have an old PC that I'm going to nuke and start a linux distro on
How old are we talking about?

>>106407227
ok I'll look into it
I am somewhat proficient with command line stuff because of work so nothing too newbie would be fine

Just something decently lightweight and modular would be ideal
Thanks!

>>106407274
not super old, like ~6 years
I just don't want Windows anymore, I have 10 but its not supported soon and 11 is spyware

>>106407320
mate windows has been spyware since 7 if not earlier

so, I have a huge movie drive in raid 5. just hollywood stuff. Is there a way to speed up playing the movie over ssh when X11 forwarding is enabled? Clock and calculator work as expected over ssh, but using totem over ssh is very slow. I know I can mount the drive vi sshf but I dont have root on the local machine.

>lxqt with xfwm as the window manager
>window bars have a very short double-click delay that doesn't respect lxqt's settings
why is linux like this

>>106407502
LXQt takes work to get working right. If you want something that works ootb you should go with any other DE.

>>106407410
Why are you playing it via X11 Forwarding? Just mount the share with sshfs and play it back locally.
If you're doing this because your hardware is a piece of shit then what you actually want is a transcoding media server like Plex or Jellyfin running on the server.

>>106408014
Also:
>I know I can mount the drive vi sshf but I dont have root on the local machine.
You don't need root, FUSE works with regular users.

If the problem is installing sshfs without root then yes, that's not something that can be done easily. More reason to just use a media server.

>>106407410
First, you should identify if the bottleneck is server load, network bandwidth or network latency. Depending on the answer, your solution may be different.

>>106408031
I can tell him without even looking the problem is protocol overhead. X11 Forwarding is a shit remoting protocol that's really not meant for playing Hollywood movies remotely.

>>106408044
For context, even if you have a high-speed 10 gigabit LAN it will still lag and be slow because it's shit at working remotely even though that was the one thing it was supposedly built for back in the day (these mainframe servers did simple 2d though, not trying to push high-bandwidth hollywood movies over the network). In most cases damage tracking doesn't even work properly so the Xorg Server has to keep sending full bitmaps across the network and have fun with that, that's why you see it visibly refreshing and laggy scrolling sometimes. It can't do partial updates properly.

Something like Waypipe will probably work way better (pun intended) if you really want to do this.

>>106400973
would be cool if that was also a thing 'cause I'm turbo lazy

I'm trying to get my generic Genius USB controller to work, but nothing will detect it except for evdev-joystick and the Wine control panel (but it recognizes it as a dinput controller, so it's kinda useless). Any ideas? I tried both Qjoypad and js-test, and neither helped.

>>106407122
CachyOS > Arch > Tumbleweed > Fedora > Debian > Ubuntu

>>106408716
Does Steam see the controller? You could just put what you want to play as an unofficial Steam game and run it through that so the controller is picked up.

Halp, I'm trying to set up Chicago95 but I've got a few niggling issues.
>Wine fonts.
Even though I'm using a bitmap font, Wine's menus always anti-alias the text unless I disable font AA in XFCE settings. Curiously, if I disable AA before launching the exe, I can re-enable AA without affecting Wine. I guess I could make my .desktop files for my Wine programs run a script to disable AA, launch the program, then reenable AA.
>Wine theme
The colours on the Wine menu are also wrong!
>Applications menu and the Super Key
The Super key works just fine on the Whisker menu, but I'm using xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu instead. Unfortunately, while the Super key can open the xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu, pressing Super AGAIN won't close it. Very annoyingly, any shortcuts that involve the Super key (like Super+R for Run) will open the applications menu. I also wish I could make the menu larger though that's not strictly necessary.

hey, real quick. i am looking to put linux on a 10 year old laptop. i am not sure which one would be the best for the task.

i am really just planing to use it as backup and some browsing. if memory serves me right, the thing could strugle to run battlefield 3 on medium settings.
anyway, thanks for any recomendations

>>106408766
Nope, absolutely nothing but the command lines will see it. Also, I should have mentioned that I'm on Mint.

>>106408729
>CachyOS
meme gaymer distro of the month, a mere few weeks ago bazzite was being shilled for the same reasons

>>106408999
Instead of just disregarding it instantly why not actually look into it and gain an opinion that's actually worth a damn instead of /v/ tier shit.

>>106408999
>for the same reasons
retard

>>106408999
I use Arch but I've been looking into these 'meme' distros. Bazzite, Aurora, Cachy, Endeavour, Kinoite. Cachy and Endeavour failed to install in virtualbox. Kinoite has the same no codecs humiliation ritual as regular Fedora. I rebased Kinoite into Aurora and it seems alright. Not sure how atomic/immutable would be for me as a daily driver so I'm just sticking with Arch for now.

>>106408999
fuck it, i will try it.

>>106409012
>>106409019
CachyOS itself is /v/-tier shit for retards

>>106409031
>don't need to set up zram or snapshots
What is the problem with this?

>>106409034
buddy they both take like 5 seconds to setup if you read the arch wiki. why use an arch based distro if you want to do literally no maintence or decision making yourself, you're just asking for a headache if a package updates and changes in a way you don't expect. lazy nigger refuses to read

>>106409034
It's no problem at all for people who need Arch pre-configured for retards

>>106409064
Exactly, it's an attempt to make Arch into something for mongs who should not be using Arch in the first place, utterly pointless.

>>106409064
>why use an arch based distro if you want to do literally no maintence or decision making yourself
What a retarded line of thought
>distro exists
>has the defaults i want anyway
>NOO YOU CAN'T USE THAT BECAUSE....UMMMM....IT'S ARCH!

>>106409085
pretty much any distro forked from arch is anti KISS arch philosophy but idk do whatever you want
>>106409034
Since when is zram for swap the new hot thing? Why not just zswap

>>106409094
>Since when is zram for swap the new hot thing? Why not just zswap
Zswap is just compressed swap.
Zram is a compressed block device in memory and incompressible pages can be offloaded to a backing store too. People often seem to describe Zram as an abuse of the Linux memory model for some reason but it's always worked perfectly for me.

how do i intentionally kernel panic

>>106409551
use magic sysrq

>>106409559
interesting
very nice to see my pc shit itself

>>106409551
Did you try asking an LLM that?

who here just ...
* {
border-radius: 0;
}

Fuck round shit

>>106409749
>Rapes your CPU

>linux can't read NTFS properly
>windows can't read ext4

how the hell am i supposed to convert my old disks to ext4 in a sane way then?

Can I make whatsapp video calls in Linux mint?

I want to thank the xlibre for narrowing the choices for which desktops (not) to use

>>106409931
If you use it as a web app in your browser

>>106409903
FAT32 and chop your large files up
lmao

>>106409903
Linux has the kernel-level ntfs3 driver and the older FUSE-based ntfs-3g driver for mount/read/writing to NTFS volumes.
The only Linux filesystem that can work fairly properly on Windows is btrfs if you install a driver for it.

>Ordered parts to build a new PC
>Some parts wont arrive until a few weeks
>Look up which version of Windows to install
>Apparently there is an issue with a Windows Update corrupting SSD's right now
Considering installing Linux instead, please man i just want my vidya to work.

>>106410024
I want to add that I tried gnome with nvidia, and the sound output through display port has a delay of about 3 seconds after something starts playing. Fixed it by switching to cinnamon

>>106410111
It's apparently a problem with SSDs that use certain Phison controllers when it comes to large transfers (like 10s of GBs at once.)
Apparently it's gonna be fixed "soon" but it's still a pretty big misfire.

>>106410089
>Linux has the kernel-level ntfs3 driver and the older FUSE-based ntfs-3g driver for mount/read/writing to NTFS volumes.
Yeah, and they don't read NTFS properly.

There are warnings on the pages for those about data loss and them not being able to properly read the filesystem. And I've personally encountered multiple issues.
Not usable.

>>106407502
>>106407977
I use LXQt and it just works. I have Openbox as the window manager. I have briefly tried xfwm with LXQt on a live USB and it seemed okay. But LXQt/Openbox is what I use as a daily driver, and it's fine.

>>106409882
And linkrel doesn't?
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/blob/d930c4a4d12e730a2d1711f865754315006506ff/gtk/theme/Adwaita/gtk-contained-dark.css

>>106410154
This is my experience with it. First I tried x11 session with openbox and xfwm4. It was mostly fine, but I couldn't figure out how to scale some apps like Firefox. GDK_SCALE variable only takes integers. Then I tried wayland session. Kwayland or whatever was buggy, and labwc doesn't seem to have a graphical config and I did not want to mess around with config files. And that's about the extent I've tried LXQt for now.

im configuring hyprland from scratch but one thing that's been bugging me is how come I can define a primary monitor in KDE and full screen games running in xwayland know to launch on that screen, but they don't on hyprland? Is there not a way to define a screen as primary?

>>106410127
What issues? It works for everyone else at least in read mode.

>>106407259
Does grub-btrfs work properly if you have an encrypted root and a separate boot partition?

>>106408716
Do you have the steam-devices package installed?

>>106410024
Never heard of moksha before

>>106410269
it does not work for everyone else, most people recommend not using it
it doesn't show many files, and shows files that don't exist anymore, and corrupted at least one of the files I needed

>>106410264
You can use wlr-randr or kanshi to config a screen as being the primary one

>>106410334
>it doesn't show many files, and shows files that don't exist anymore, and corrupted at least one of the files I needed
Now you're just spreading FUD.

>>106410361
You don't have to reply if you're not experienced with or knowledgeable about this issue.

>>106410220
labwc is basically openbox wayland

Is Gentoo still considered the way to go if I want to fine-tune my system? I've been away from GNU/Linux for about 9 years.
Expecting a new (to me) laptop soon and can't wait to install Gentoo to feel at home again (cygwin has tided me over).

>>106410702
Gentoo is indeed still the distro to go with if you want to squeeze out every ounce of performance from your PC's parts.

>>106408807
Q4OS with Trinity DE if you have 1-2 GB RAM. Otherwise you can go with Q4OS KDE Plasma.
But almost any distro/DE should be fine if your PC 10 years old. As long as you stay away from Gnome, Cinnamon and Deepin. Those 3 are probably the heaviest DEs out there.

>>106410702
The benefits are very minimal while the time investment is really high. Gentoo isn't really made for individuals to use it and half the modern software is meant to be used through flatpak/appimage anyways.

>>106410702
Basically all mutable distros are equally tunable. Use Gentoo if you want a 0.000000001% speed increase in programs at the cost of 72 hour compilation times.

>>106390318 (OP)
I reformatted my computer recently and decided to do something different. I built my own desktop out of standalone components.
>Compiz + Emerald
>Cairodock
>xfce4-pannel
>lxqt-session
>Userland apps from LXQt, KDE and XFCE
>kdeconnect
>elementary icons
>some custom background scripts holding it all together
>somehow being held together better than some desktop environments

>>106410814
Aside from the icons, it looks like shit. But as long as you're happy that's ok.

>>106410861
I can change how nearly everything looks. The point is I've reached an unparalleled level of software harmoney on Linux. Everything has been finely tuned to integrate well with everything else with minimal bloat.

>>106410814
I would suggest xfce4-terminal over qterminal
Looks like you have heavy mac os nostalgia

>>106407227
>smooth transition
>no thumbnails in the filepicker
kek, good one!

>>106408031
>identify if the bottleneck is server load
Dude, he's using X forwarding.
That shit has never worked over the network. It does 2-3 FPS over the Internet, you're very lucky if it hits 10 FPS over gigabit LAN.

i accidently exited desktop with ctrl alt f1
what command do i type to get back in

>>106411430
Try alt+f2-f7. One of them will be your desktop

>>106411450
thanks it was on f7
does mint has like a panic button? like ctrl+alt+del

>>106407132
No, I use ZFSBootMenu with ZFS snapshots and remote backups, thanks for asking.

>>106411509
ctrl+alt+backspace will restart your desktop session if the desktop crashes for whatever reason
technically linux doesnt really need a ctrl+alt+del equivalent since you can just use ctrl+alt f1-6 to jump to a tty to do 99% the same thing.

>>106411582
What makes zfs better over btrfs for you?

>>106411638
i got 'could not acuire name on a session bus'

>>106390318 (OP)
>For example, enabling the following will enable the PAT feature [7], which affects how memory is allocated. PAT was first introduced in Pentium III [8] and is supported by most newer CPUs (see wikipedia:Page attribute table#Processors). If your system can support this feature, it should improve performance.

Is this actually true? I can't find anything on the internet about this.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA/Tips_and_tricks#Kernel_module_parameters

>>106411652
I haven't used Btrfs long enough to have a direct comparison, but ZFS is supposedly better at maintaining data integrity, has more mature RAID support, compression, etc.

when typing 'ps aux' i saw [crypto] on one of the processes
am i infected?

>>106411652
If ZFS was in the kernel, nobody would use btrfs.

>>106411859
if ZFS were in the kernel, Btrfs wouldn't even exist. same with bcachefs.

>>106411896
I hate this timeline.

>>106411293
I've been using Mint for a year now and didn't even notice until this thread.

>>106409094
Zram is faster and makes more sense if the goal is to never swap to a disk in the first place.

Arch linux, the AUR, and the arch linux wiki, are truly a gift to humanity

Why do Linux guides suggest apt-get instead of apt when apt seems to be just the same with syntax highlighting?

>>106410127
I've been using NTFS drives on Linux for a while now, mounted using ntfs3 and they work fine.

>>106412280
Those guides might just be old enough that apt-get was still the command you used.

>>106412280
Apt is still experimental and might be subject to changes while apt-get is mature and stable and is guaranteed for the command to still work even after years later while apt could change.

>>106412280
>looking at guides which show any terminal commands
>expecting them to not be retarded
Just go into your app store and click the big "install" button.

>>106411896
Idk, zfs still refuses to support a bunch of pleb use cases like mixed size disks and shrinking. Linux filesystems are basically political blocs. We don't need ext4 and xfs either, but different workgroup priorities means one has reflink and the other has encryption.

>>106408067
>Waypipe
Thanks; OP, here. I will look into this. X11 is old tech, simple to use for simple graphical programs. I have a meeting with the network admin and will ask for elevated rights on the local machine.

webm is more cute dogs.

>>106412620
wdym no mixed size disks? raid0 zfs uses the full amount, any other case wouldn't support mixed size in any raid solution.
also lol shrinking.. when do your disks shrink? you just send the dataset to a new pool on the smaller disk.

>>106412711
>any other case wouldn't support mixed size in any raid solution.
You're very wrong, even LVM has no such limitations. You can mix disks of varying capacities for RAID>0 in both LVM and btrfs.

>>106412510
Brainlet post

>nvidia-settings
Is this needed when using official nvidia drivers? What do you lose by not using it?

>>106412887
It's a GUI for directly interacting with NVIDIA graphics settings. Like what comes with installing a graphics driver on Windows.

>>106412905
Can't I still set the most important things (resolution, frame rate, orientation, etc.) without it? I have no desire to game, will it affect anything by not installing it?

>>106412755
what happens in raid 1 on lvm and btrfs after you exceed the first disk size?

>>106412711
>wouldn't support mixed size in any raid solution
btrfs can make any number of random size disks any raid as long as the redundancy constraints are satisfied. I'm running 3 disk raid1.

>>106412993
yeah so what happens with the rest of the space on the disk? zfs can used mixed size disks too idk wtf you're talking about, all solutions simply don't use the remainder of the disk size but all work with any size disks. Even zfs
Lvm is the only one, you just have to make a new logical volume set to linear on the remainder of the pv

>>106412991
>>106413032
Afaik LVM can only make RAID equal to the smallest disk. btrfs 'raid' is just an integrity constraint, so you can have 8TB RAID1 on 4+4+8.

>>106413075
Got it, rather than do raid 1+0 you let btrfs do it for you. zfs can do that too you just need to diy

>>106413103
You can't combine zfs pools without backup & restore though. btrfs lets you slap another disk in there and rebalance online. You can also reduce the size of the RAID online if you decide you want one of the disks back, or change the RAID profile. It's imminently more practical for home workloads.

>>106413224
>btrfs lets you slap another disk in there and rebalance online.
pretty sure that's now a thing as of 2.3

>>106413272
Yes but it's still halfass compared to btrfs 5 years ago. You can't use any size disk and you can't switch raid profiles.

>>106413413
i'd rather use a filesystem that prioritises data integrity over handy new features, instead of the other way around

>>106413413
that's fair, I've been through jank too many times to not plan this out and use the correct size drives, but I can see how 2nd hand or cheap stuff can get you into jank ass situations

>>106412299
Yeah, it looks like it works. Until it doesn't.

>>106413508
Then you should be using btrfs because they haven't added any new features outside zoned IO stuff for yonks. zfs is stuck on back foot trying to play catchup from 10 years ago.

>>106413981
it still doesn't mean btrfs is as reliable with data as zfs. it also doesn't mean i have to use any zfs features that i don't need or don't consider mature enough (all my pools still have compat flag set for a version that came out 4 years ago). the only incentive to switch would be in kernel support, but even that doesn't apply in my case, because my distro doesn't ship btrfs anyway.

>>106414249
>it still doesn't mean btrfs is as reliable with data as zfs
They're more or less equally unreliable. You're not going to have problems with either if you keep the same kernel / filesystem version and test before deployment. Even ext4 still gets data loss bugs in release kernels. "I'm already using it," is the only compelling use case you've given for ZFS.

>download and install anki from their website
>no desktop shortcut, have to run from terminal
its not a big deal but I'd like to know for the future. How do I make a shortcut for something like this so I can just press my super key and find it in my start menu

>>106414292
Just because my own usecase is that of a NEET LARPing as a sysadmin, doesn't mean there are no compelling reasons to use ZFS on Linux.

>>106414292
>is the only compelling use case you've given for ZFS.
we have to explain arc? zvols? cache and zil?
btrfs has different features. features that I wouldn't use. zfs has different features, features I would use.

>>106414327
>>106414333
I'm not saying there are no use cases, I'm just saying none of them apply to you.

What's the current state of Nvidia on linux? I want to switch from windows to Linux on my gaming PC but I have an RTX 3080 and I'm not willing to switch to amd hardware.

>>106414310
1. Right click on your application menu
2. Click "edit applications"
3. Click "New -> Item"
4. Under "program" click on the file open icon
5. Select your executable
6. Click "Save"
The above applies to KDE, but the process should be almost identical for Xfce and Cinnamon from what I remember.

>>106413969
lol. Okay buddy.

>>106414432
Still not great. I would wait until you're willing to switch to AMD hardware.

Three Questions:

1. Why is XFCE so fugging comfy?

2. How is XFCE memory usage so low? when I open firefox on Plasma it's 3000MB minimum when idle but XFCE it's less than half that!

3. Native wayland xfwm when?

>>106414401
you don't know me

>>106414432
>3080
It's painless on distros which bundle nVidia drivers, like Bazzite (the gamer distro).
You just have to keep in mind that most distros default to open source drivers which suck ass. So you have to enable the proprietary ones in your system settings or manually download and install them through the terminal.

>>106411687
Has anyone actually benchmarked this?
If I wanted to do that what should I test?
It's supposed to add additional granularity to existing methods so my first instinct is to guess that it is adding imperceptible within MOE performance boost, if any.
>>106414432
It works.
Moderate annoyances here and there.
580 update broke my containers. Needed to run a few commands to get them running again.
If you need and example.

>>106414452
>until you're willing to switch to AMD hardware.
I'd only consider switching if they offered an objectively superior product at an equivalent price to Nvidia, and I see no indication that such a feat is possible any time soon.

>>106414483
>>106414539
I don't mind installing the proprietary drivers manually, I am familiar with Linux already but on laptops and servers.
If things break regularly though I'm not sure if I'm ready to switch yet...

>>106414432
Bad enough to not be worth it when the solution is simply using another GPU

>>106414483
>you have to enable the proprietary ones in your system settings
This is the best options for new users, too bad it's not available on for most distros by default and the temptation of using scripts they find online usually wins over, and they end up borking their system, or soft-borking it where everything seems fine until later and they blame it on the distro.

>manually download and install them through the terminal.

This is the next best option, but they never do it. Hunkering down and thoroughly following their distro's wiki would take only 30 minutes and they'd never have to worry about it again.... but they JUST. DON'T. DO. IT. The aversion to the terminal is too strong for the average Win-drone.

They really need to do something about this bottleneck. It's one of the worst barriers to entry for otherwise really good, nub-friendly distros I see online, over-and-over. Everything goes well for them until it's time to install the Nvidia drivers - and they never get over this speedbump and end up going back to windows or to linux mint.

There has to be some conspiracy going on. It seems like someone is intentionally pushing all newcomers to these a handful of babby distros because they don't want to deal with them OR they want to make linux look bad. If we keep it real for a second, Bazzite and Mint are ok on the surface, but kind of dogshit distros that go against fundamental Linux principles. if you want a Fisher Price OS with hard coded idiot-proofing barriers go to mac.

>>106414577
>I'd only consider switching if they offered an objectively superior product at an equivalent price to Nvidia
For the purposes of being a graphics card they're already better and cheaper. Maybe consider having a separate AI slopcessor.

>>106414577
>If things break regularly
They don't on atomic/immutable distros. I haven't had a single issue on any of my Bazzite or Aurora systems in 2 years of using them.

>>106414577
>I'd only consider switching if they offered an objectively superior product at an equivalent price to Nvidia
Keep in mind Nvidia loses 10-20% of performance on Linux.

>>106414650
I forgot wintoddlers can't grasp benchmarking.

>>106414649
>They don't on atomic/immutable distros
Yeah but I tried fedora silver blue one time and it was a pain in the ass to try and do simple customization like modifying the display manager screen. Immutable distros seem like a good idea for grandparents or console esq PCs but for a main desktop it's still too painful if you care at all about tinkering.

>>106414644
>dogshit distros that go against fundamental Linux principles
Most people don't give a shit about Linux principles. They just want an OS that works. If that's Bazzite and Mint then that's just the reality you'll have to live in. Clearly most other distros, at least those which you consider to follow "Linux principles", are not good enough to be considered usable by most people.
>just buy a mac
Stop gatekeeping.

>>106414679
>modifying the display manager screen
I'm not sure what you mean by this, but
>silverblue
Could just be a GNOME/Wayland issue? On Fedora Kinoite (the KDE version of Silverblue) you can even install the x11 session if you want.
>tinkering
If you're tinkering where you shouldn't be then you should expect breakage.
And it's not like you're prevented from tinkering on atomic distros. You still have access to a package manager with rpm-ostree so you can install whatever software, DE or login manager you want. If anything the process is easier since rpm-ostree is using layering as a way to organize and visualize your changes to the system, so you can revert stuff easily.

Anyone else here use powershell core

>>106414798
Ewww.

I just tried to install Fedora KDE alongside my Windows/Mint dualboot, but all I got was Mint's GRUB keep coming back up with just Mint and Windows options. Updating GRUB from Mint didn't see Fedora either (os-probe installed). I tried the automated install, then tried again with the custom one (even though it has a button to set everything out for you that I used).

I just deleted it all in the end. I'm just glad Mint still works.

Didn't have any of this shit when I installed Kubuntu under exactly the same circumstances, all on the same drive, last year.

>>106414483
>manually download and install them through the terminal.
never, ever fucking do that. If your distro forces you to, switch distro immediatly.

xfce turn off/standby while watching videos, fucking hell, you're supposed to be grandma computer friendly

>>106414872
Unless you are on a laptop just disable it.
Standby is AIDS to get working properly in Linux because applications don't really inform the OS properly about wth is going on like Windows does.

>>106414872
>use a meme DE
>expect it to not suck
next time install kde

>>106414909
it's just xcfe tho, not my computer, i won't disable shit and stuff, should work oob, i'll move to another de.

>>106414924
i'll do that in the future but potato pc, insane they can't do this in 2025

>>106414310
You can make a .desktop file and put it in ~/.local/share/applications
If you want to use one as reference, check your /usr/share/applications folder

>>106414461
>1. Why is XFCE so fugging comfy?
Its been mature stable for a long time and doesnt make massive major changes
>2. How is XFCE memory usage so low? when I open firefox on Plasma it's 3000MB minimum when idle but XFCE it's less than half that!
I have no idea
>3. Native wayland xfwm when?
Its in the works but most likely they will use something like labwc or wayfire under the hood since its easier that way

>>106414984
>potato pc
how potato are we talking about? KDE Plasma can apparently run on devices with 1GB RAM and a single CPU core, assuming you disable a few things in settings.

>>106415097
g1610 4gb ram, old radeon 5450, ssd atleast.

Stupid moment, I only put 20gb on my / disk on a dual-boot setup because I followed some dumb video recommending that a few months ago. Now i'm running out of space (only 1gb left) with updates and the very few programs I have. I also have very little free time to spend (i could theoretically save everything and do it all over from scratch, but last time around it took two full weeks to do it and get behind all the little nooks and crannies and organizational stuff).
What would be the safest/most time-efficient manner to deal with this without starting all over again? Could I just move / to another disk? It's an HDD/SSD setup and windows and linux are both on the SSD. If push comes to shove I'll just start using windows again but Mint is so comfy and hassle-free I don't want to go back.

new thread >>106415148
>new thread >>106415148
new thread >>106415148
>new thread >>106415148
this one is reaching bump limit

>>106414461
You have 16 GB of RAM so KDE is going to use it. On my Core2Duo laptop I've got KDE uses way less memory when idle.

I'd suggest using CGroup limits if you really want to force a hard limit on your desktops memory usage.

>>106414872
This is the video players fault. They're supposed to disable the screensaver.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31498114/how-to-programmatically-prevent-linux-computer-from-sleeping-or-turning-on-scree

>>106415415
thanks, i'll check vlc options when i can check