Thread 106393091

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106386643

>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>>106393091 (OP)
No matter what you buy people will call you retarded.
>montech king 95 pro
I will collect tears now

Hello i am lonely

This price difference is crazy

>>106393252
stop worrying about mobo costs and fix your country, mate

Monitors are a conspiracy. Every single one has some massive glaring tradeoff. Whether it be 1000 dollars for a mini led 32 inch 4k monitor that only has 144hz refresh rate and mediocre response times, or an oled which has better refresh and response BUT you'll replace it in 3 years because of burn in.

>>106393272
144hz is enough dotard

>>106393252
Godlike has more custom components and an EATX board design, so they set a higher unit margin to justify the production run.

screw it
I'm buying Gigabyte B850M DS3H
I don't need stinking wifi

>>106393291
>implying 90% of the shit they add isn't pennies on the dollar
There is not a damn thing on that board to justify $1100 unless you're just that much of a moron.
Hit me when they add some PLX chips to atleast mask the fact they are starving for PCIe lanes.

>>106393314
based 20 meter LAN cable drill a hole under the doorstep enjoyer

>>106393286
for fps games I constantly hear a reason people swap from oled tvs due to the refresh rate not being fast enough
cope or not cope, 240hz is the new 144
in fact, 4k240 is the new standard, aka the sweetspot

>>106393272
buy the least dogshit that your wallet can cope with and live with the downsides
or whatever makes your copes feel the best
all these copes are inherently poor copes, would you even care if you were rich and just bought shit and stopped caring?
I mean you don't even have to be rich, just have a job and stop caring
only time I'm ocd about money is when I'm penny pinching every single coin like I'm about to die any second, iktf

>>106393286
>dotard
I have never played league of legends or whatever that genre is called in my life.
>>106393349
Richfags don't throw away money arbitrarily, that's why they're rich.

>>106393314
it's also bluetooth, wifi is good QoL
and if you have a good signal on 5Ghz it's not even dogshit anymore it actually just works

>>106393358
>or whatever that genre is called
the normalfag term is MOBA, the oldfag term ASSFAGGOTS.

>>106393358
>buying a cheap monitor every few years is throwing money away
calculate the cost over years it's barely anything

Best RAM kit for a 9950X3D?
>2 stick kit
>24bit
>EXPO certified
>at least 64GB if possible

6000MT/s ?

Idk the best speed for overclocking, without bricking my system or needing liquid nitrogen. I heard Intel chips have much higher RAM frequencies but that 6000 is the sweet spot for AMD.

>>106393335
It's about justifying the limited production run, not the raw component cost.

>>106393379
>assfaggots
Damn, been a while since I've seen that term. It's coming back to me, though I still have never played any.
>>106393380
>cost over years
greater than what you would spend if you buy once cry once.

>>106393349
I do not care about the e-sports sloppa, play good showers

>>106393286
I also forgot to mention to you that 144hz is less than my aging Acer monitor which I can "OC" to 165. I would at least want better than my 7 year old monitor I was using with a 970.

>>106393394
best? cl26 6000

>>106393419
>greater than what you would spend if you buy once cry once.
you buy oled you cry once, if you buy lcd you cry every day looking at it

>>106393420
4k240 still then

>>106393442
>you buy oled you cry once
Or you cry every day once it burns in and you either have to stare at your task bar or replace it.

>>106393420
>shower
Fucking retarded ass swype fuck this useless piece of shit technology

>>106393349
>4k240 is the new standard

>>106393442
Thanks for the reply, I looked in to it and got pic related. I'll price them and consider if it's worth it, at first glance it seems negligible.

>>106393400
What justifies the limited production run?
I could see if they added something expensive and they have to sell the board at that cost or else it wouldn't be profitable
Seems to be tho they want to double dip by giving you some bullshit garnish and charge you as if it's something special.

I do so want to be an "enthusiast" but seems to be enthusiast just means "paypig" rather than actual appreciation of useful features.

>>106393544
>I do so want to be an "enthusiast" but seems to be enthusiast just means "paypig"
Hey, you figured it out! That + youtuber worship is the modern pc "enthusiast"

>>106393358
>Richfags don't throw away money arbitrarily, that's why they're rich.
You're thinking of people who are trying to become richfags. Real richfags have so much money they could buy new top-tier PCs and peripherals every single year and never notice a change in their financial state because it's so little money to them.

>>106393488
It's good you actually did your research, but if you are still questioning it at this point you are kind of retarded
Those are fucking 1080P benchmarks with a fucking 4090

>>106393488
worth it no best yes
falls into the category of I just wanna blow money
if you are in this tier you would need to manual tune everything to get the most out of the last things left
and it would still be a waste of time

>>106393476
literally, good enough for every use case while maximizing all factors as much as they can without sacrificing anything
pricing coming down day by day
yep

>>106393458
I will now return my monitor and become rich due to not having an oled monitor

>>106393568
How far have we fallen that nothing dares to break out of bounds of what's intended

>>106393570
No anon, I am thinking of richfags who will literally drive used cars.

>>106393488
never trust HUB for that kind of content
but you don't buy 6000C26 kits to run them at EXPO settings, so you should just get 6000C30 like everyone told you to

>>106393570
>Real richfags
You're thinking of like Jeff Bezos tier richfags
For lesser tier richfags all it takes is one retarded spawn with a mindset like that for everything to be pissed away.
If you're spending $10k every year on a pc setup there's probably a hundred other objectively dumb ass purchases draining resources.
TLDR : Don't blow your dads/families money

>>106393544
There are other boards for enthusiasts like MSI Ace (maybe not available in AM5), the ROG Maximus/Crosshair, and some higher end AORUS boards.

>>106393640
>richfag
>blowing away your trust fund on pc parts
literally impossible

anyway, you guys think since 27" 5k oleds are coming out that 32" 6k oleds will be the next logical step?
32" might eternally mog

>>106393657
>32" 6k
I wish I had an apple studio display, even though it's thunderbolt only and 60hz but it looks amazing. They are due to make a new version soon.

What are the best "APU" cases ? I want a small HTPC case for a 8700G so I don't need GPU slot.

>>106393593
Is there something specific on that board I'm missing? Because dual-socket server boards are far from unintended.

>>106393652
It's all just different configurations of the same limited PCIe lanes, some have faster networking, few more USB ports there, some more aluminum armor.
It's uninteresting for how much they are nowadays.

>>106393700
Dual socket boards were never really intended for consumers.

>>106393723
I suppose. Though here I think "unintended" is more a function of the steep price and dual-socket actually sucking for client applications. I doubt there's a clause in EVGA's contract that says they can't make a server board with red and black accents. Board makers definitely did mess about a lot more in the past though, for sure.

>>106393700
>>106393723
It's not an server board, it was an consumer board for desktop Intel CPUs and not server CPUs
https://motherboarddb.com/motherboards/989/Classified%20SR-2/

>>106393883
>steep price
you are funny guy, that board cost was about 600$, and that site even states it price at 400$
meanwhile this PoS >>106393252
costs about 1400$, while having no features other than some zoomer screen, that also breaks regularly and bricks entire MB, you can read about it on MSI forums if you care

>>106393885
Depends on your definition I guess. Yeah it was marketed towards consumers but it has a server chipset and only supports workstation/server CPUs. Kind of like today's pseudo-consumer HEDT platforms.

>>106393926
That's like $900 in today's money but I'm not defending those meme halo boards. Whales gonna whale.

>>106393723
>>106393652
And none of those boards are interesting, none have any interesting features, none of them make me feel that I purchase an flagship, an top tier product. Taichi would be ok if it wouldn't fry the CPUs, and Aorus Xtreme is I guess, acceptable? At least it has two 10g lan ports and is cheaper than Asus and MSI flagships.
>(maybe not available in AM5
It's supposed to come on AM5 too. But several boards you have mentioned are actually inferior to the Intel counterparts with same name. Worse quality, less VRMs, inferior features/accessories.
>>106393544
>What justifies the limited production run?
Nothing! That board is more expansive than workstation boards for TR5, which are much bigger, have 14 PCB layers and are able to handle huge ThreadRipper CPUs and several GPUs at once. And some other "flagship" AM5 boards also have similar prices to the TR5 motherboards.

the fuck is this shit? I've never seen it before, but now half the monitors on amazon give me this

california btw

>>106394110
>california
oi m8, you got a loicense for that monitor?

>>106394110
The only time I've seen this is when I wanted to import something from a foreign amazon.

>g80sd delivery was updated 5 hours ago
>2 hour transport away from me now
Let's fucking gooooo (tomorrow)

Im planning to kill myself bought a rope and all but then my local electronic store has massive autumn sales and great deal on the 5070. Should I build a new PC or kms?

>after I've already done compromising and pulled the plug on 14600K, B660 and DDR4
>a nice ASUS TUF GAMING Z790 PLUS appears in stock for a low price of $292! (cheapest Z790 with same features was previously $400)
Shitfuck. I guess I should buy it while it is still in stock. Get DDR5 and move my system.
When I upgrade to Bartlett later this year, just put 14600K back into B660 and sell it as prebuilt.

>>106394287
Pretty cute even with the fish eyes.

>>106394110
Sorry anon, you're just going to have to deal with green energy laws that most tech can't physically comply with so there are more electrons for AI startups in Silicon Valley.

>>106394287
Build a PC then kill yourself

>>106394307
I bet he has no fucking water to shower either because closest AI farm sucked everything up from the pipes, for cooling.

>>106394309
What's the point then?

>>106394316
>entire ai industry in texas uses 450 million gallons of water per year
>illegal aliens in texas use 57 billion gallons of water per year
deport them all, grow the ai industry by 100x

>>106394338
Why do people think water just vanishes after its used? What do they teach kids in school these days?

>>106394334
You get to build a PC (fun) then kill yourself (also fun).
Don't see the downsides really and it avoids the shitty part of PC building where you try to play games on it and realise you hate all new video games

>>106394347
recycled water is basically just used for agriculture, because apparently it's not safe to drink but it's safe to eat

>>106394347
It vanishes from resident consumers water pipes because said pipes and associated pumping infrastructure were not built with gigaAInigger farms in mind. What do you care about water cycle if your tap is dry?

>>106394364
>where you try to play games on it and realise you hate all new video games
I've built 23K 3DMark score system and most I play on it is Tower Dominion.

>>106394347
I can be taken away from the usable amount for a community depending on the source and how they use it .
So it could have no effect or a huge effect but most people don't look closely and generalise

>>106394300
if you really want access to Z790 features or I/O i guess it might be worth it
i have the DDR4 version of that board and it's... fine
good at memory OC but it doesn't have basic features like BIOS flashback because ASUS loves product segmentation

I fell for the 265k meme. What are some Z890 motherboards? I watched the AMD Unboxed video and they suggested the Tomahawk. but I wanted a second opinion. MSI has treated me the best out of any of the AM4 motherboard vendors I've used, but I have no idea if they make good Intel boards.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DH6SF5LB
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJN4RPGK
I was looking at these two and one Gigabyte one I closed the tab on, and I don't think I'd go much higher than that $250 price point for just the mobo.

aight, I'm made peace with idea of burning my cpu and I'm buying asrock riptide
worst case scenario I wait a month for a cpu replacement

Anyone here have experience with Xiaomi monitors?
They look to good to be true..

>>106394424
I mostly want more RAM because yesterday I opened 5 youtube videos while sitting in a Tarkov bush & streaming for friends and apparently 32GB of ram is not enough for that. And buying more DDR4 in 2025 would be retarded, even more retarded I mean.
>>106394510
I only have experience with ASUS and Intel since the LGA478. They've been very good to me but their recent pricing model disappoints me. I have heard better things about MSI than GIgabyte for sure. I have gigabyte now with Intel and I do not like it.

>>106394525
that what I say about patriot viper venom
but everyone says it's just ram

>>106394525
>Xiaomi
>Floor fan
>Phone
>Airfryer
>Hairdryer
>Air filter
I mean, all of the other shit I have from them is pretty good. But I would hunt down AOC minileds like that other anon is suggesting.

>>106394364
Alright then. I probably give it to my cousin later. Cheers anon and see you on the other side.

>>106393091 (OP)
>265K for value & reliability
I'm really struggling between this and 9800X3D
I do more than gaming

>>106394535
I had a slew of AM4 Asus boards that ALL had the same fucking memory problems. I know different teams work on Intel vs. AMD, but I'm deathly afraid of buying another Asus board and having the RAM slots shit the bed for a fourth time.
I've used Gigabyte in the distant past but I have no idea what their current stuff looks like. I wasn't a big fan of the ASRock AM4 board I had so I was steering clear of them too, but that's not a guarantee that any of those boards suck either.

>>106394611
Don't do it

>>106394535
>I mostly want more RAM because yesterday I opened 5 youtube videos while sitting in a Tarkov bush & streaming for friends and apparently 32GB of ram is not enough for that
well the board is fine, just be aware that it's one of the most basic Z790 boards you can get
i paid 150 euro for it (unopened amazon return) so i have no complaints but i'm not sure i would be happy if i paid almost twice that amount
>>106394629
ASUS BIOS is objectively terrible, normalfags just love it because it looks nice and has fancy animations

>>106394629
I don't remember the clocks but ASUS P5E that I have flashed into Rampage Formula, has survived lightning strike through LAN port and my clumsy teenage soldering of replacement burnt caps, while maintaining 4GHZ of Q6600 and whatever DDR3 I had overclocked to match. I was even uploading OC results into national database and taking top 10 places with that CPU.

Then the Prime Z270-A I had 4 sticks of DDR4 from two different 2x8GB kits, that worked together at 3600MHz CL17-19-19-37 1.41V.

I would trust ASUS with my Intel platform over everyone else, then I would get MSI if it had the features, Gigabyte if I had no other choice and never ASRock. I worked in retail around 2006 and that shit was #1 RMT.

>>106394626
Get the 265K if it's noticeably better for your productivity workloads.
Don't read gaming benchmarks until you need to buy a new CPU.

>>106393272
Wrong. KTC m27p6 is the best one you can get now with 0 downsides. It's OLED light without burn-in. And 240hz is a meme, it's impossible to see a difference between 160 hz and higher

>>106393691
I bet you could find some neat 3d prints at that size.

Controller on my one nvme went. It's gone to shit. I gotta RMA it, but it begs the question, will they recover my data and use it for personal gains during the RMA or do they just destroy the old hardware all together despite the issue being a faulty controller it seems? Surely they would want to fix the controller and resell no?

>>106394733
microwave it

>>106394626
265k, 9950x/x3d, 285k

>>106394241
Enjoy your new OLED that will last you no longer than 2-3 years!

>>106394733
Use motherfuckin' magnets

>>106394733
unless you are the kind of person who wouldn't even consider rmaing something, data recovery is far too expensive for it to even be attempted

>$70 amazon special desk to hold my $2000 pc
Am I special?

>>106394733
mate with what they charge for data recovery they can afford to throw that controller straight into the bin

>>106394861
>he has PC on his desk
Yes you are.
>>106394733
Have you seen any of the silicon storage recovery videos? The dudes doing it might as well be neurosurgeons. They aren't doing anything lmao.

>>106394877
It's in a cubby underneath the desk but off the ground

>>106394676
>i'm not sure i would be happy if i paid almost twice that amount
Well I can get new parts here at 25% discount without warranty. "new unopened", as you've put it. I'll think whether I want to do it with motherboard.

what the hell is an NPU

>>106394576
But Xiaomi cheap and also offer miniled

>>106395018
AI sloppa processor

>>106395031
What does that mean

>>106395037
>A neural processing unit (NPU), also known as AI accelerator or deep learning processor, is a class of specialized hardware accelerator[1] or computer system[2][3] designed to accelerate artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning applications, including artificial neural networks and computer vision.
Straight from Wikipedia. TLDR: A chip that calculates AI stuff.

>>106395037
It means rather than dedicating silicon to useful things, it dedicates it to running AI.

>>106395061
Hmm my next question was if this would take away my fps and it looks like the answer is yes

isn't AI for the GPU anyway

>>106394676
Which BIOS is the best in your opinion?

>>106395018
A GPU with extra marketing

>2008 4chan told me bitcoin was a scam and I shouldn't invest on it. I listened
>2013 4chan told me tinder was all bots, Stacies and chads and I shouldn't use it. I listened.
>2015 4chan told me memecoints crytos were a scam and I shouldn't mine or invest on them. I listened.
>2023 4chan told me AI was a scam and I shouldn't invest on it. I listened.
...

>>106395221
in 2006 a dude in college told me to buy bitcoin
I had 4870 at the time, ideal for mining
came home from college, opened mining pool, couldn't figure shit out, went to play TF2
he went to play DOTA and didn't buy any either

>>106395133
i had gigabyte on AM4 and that was way better IMO

some issues i have with the ASUS BIOS:
>lots of padding everywhere, so only a few items fit on screen at once
>ASUS has a compulsive need to reorder and rename absolutely everything (i know buildzoid complained about this as well)
>POST times are slower than my old board, could be a platform issue though
>BIOS profiles are buggy, for example if i load a profile with a different memory speed the board won't restore it properly and instead try to boot something ridiculous like DDR4-5333
>fan control is more finicky, you have to be really careful when doing small adjustments or it will shift the entire curve
>the board often doesn't tell you what settings it's using on auto (on gigabyte it always shows you the auto values next to each item)

i mean it's not terrible but it's not good either
overrated would be the best way to describe it

>>106395133
>>106395311
i realize i called it "objectively terrible" in the first post and "not terrible" in the second post, so i might have been a bit dramatic
point still stands though

Does anyone know of a good DP to HDMI adapter that actually supports high refresh rates/VRR?

>>106394626
>>265K for value & reliability
>value
There is no value with poo lake being stuck on a dead socket with cpus that are totally anemic and underwhelming outside of cinebench synthetic tests. Not just zen 6 but it seems like zen 7 is coming to AM5 too even now btw. Building an intel system in 2025 is just plain retarded. They aren't even worth considering until nova lake and socket 1954 next year which is supposed to finally have as good long term support as AMD with many generations.

>>106395400
>dead socket
what does this mean and what does it matter

Reposting >>106393032

Looking for desk + chair up to 952 yuros each.
Any recommendations?

>>106395404
it means you're supposed to upgrade every generation to keep AMD shareholders happy

>>106395424
why would someone who just bought a $500 cpu buy another $500 cpu a year later

>>106395460
because a techtuber told them to

>>106395424
>Intelaviv shill trying to spin not having to build a whole new system with a different motherboard as actually a bad thing
Fuck off
>>106395404
It means people who bought zen 1 for example on am4 eventually got to upgrade to zen 2 and zen 3 which were very good and for the cherry on top got the first x3d processor 5800x3d even. Similar thing is happening now with AM5 where at the very least if you buy in now you will have the option to upgrade to a 12 core 1 ccd or 24 core 2 ccd with vcache zen6 cpu next year and now it seems like based on recent leaks possibly even zen 7 16 and 32 core processors a couple years from now.

>>106395421
i recommend you stop being retarded and buy them separately. Go to a furniture store and pick something for the desk, go online and buy a secret-labs or something, there's many videos out there reviewing both, dont ask us its redundant.

best case without glass panel?

>>106395518
>stop being retarded
>recommends secret labs
lmfao

>>106395560
these retards just eat up youtuber slop all day i swear

>>106395404
It means he's underage and doesn't realize that Intel has never kept a socket supported for more than 2 gens. There's a lot of people on /g/ who will convince you to buy a socket based off longevity, but in reality it makes no sense. If you bought a good CPU up front it's going to last you a good 5+ years. By then your motherboard will be dated (not because of the socket), due to the quickly pacing IO increases with PCI, DDR, etc.

>>106395502
>build a whole new system
Yes, once every 7-10 years when normal people upgrade, it's completely fine and expected to build a whole new system.
And even intel LGA1700 is still getting a refresh t his year.

>>106395571
>Intel has never kept a socket supported for more than 2 gens.
Nobody who is sane and not a techtuber is buying new CPU more often than once every 5 years.

>>106395581
But he saying 5 years later people on AMD can buy a new CPU for their computer

>>106393032
Go to some office furniture store and sit in the chairs there?
I would check out the embody from herman miller or the other brands.

The desk should be the easy part. You just need a height adjustable table....

>>106395596
Sure, gimp a Ryzen 5000 with a garbage heap early AM4 motherboard.

>>106395596
As anon said, the platform would already be outdated as a whole. It's like consumer overclocking: when you need to resort to squeezing out pathetic 5-10% of performance out of hardware to cope with modern games and tasks, you're already past due for an upgrade.
>>106395613
I sat in Herman Miller Aeron or whatever and that shit has the plastic bottom and base. I've bought a chink one 6 times cheaper instead. At least it has more metal and upper body support.

how often do people on AMD upgrade their CPUs? It seems to be a lot. On /g/ there's plenty of people that seem to refuse to get off Intel 4th gen

>>106395596
Yes it is normal especially if you keep up with wanting to play the latest slop at high fps to want to upgrade your cpu in 3-5 years. The great value of AM4 and AM5 even is you can start even with a current gen lower end cpu like 9600x and then waitfag till next year or even longer for zen7 and buy a high end with budget you saved up for it. Socket longevity is a great benefit for long term value.

A few months ago I mentioned I have an unopened 8700k, STRIX Z370-E, 64gb DDR4-3000 CL16 RAM, and a Deepcool Castle 240EX, (and a 1000w PSU and a case, but I was gonna hold onto those), and was asking about if it was worth trying to sell them to put the 200-250$ towards new parts, or if I should just build it and just buy a GPU and replace the CPU, mobo, RAM etc whenever it's convenient to.

Someone said they were interested in buying those parts: Is that anon still around?

If so my email is here: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105943041/#105951691

I am unhappy with my Ryzen 7600 single core performance. What are my alternatives?

>>106395752
265K

>>106395616
5700X3D runs perfect on X370.
Cope jewtel shill.

>>106395613
>Embody
Nice chair but 2k, same with other millers.
Need something under 952, gesture is the only "premium" chair that checks that box.
>desk
Sure but lots of wobbly, low or loud garbage..


>>106395631
>chink
Ain't all that bad. Considering the Ofinto Cloud too which is a rebranded SitZone Acasa. Expensive for chink but seems decent enough.

>>106395767
Sure with the VRM at 90ºC lmao

>>106395752
I'll assume 7600 = 7600X


NOW


CHOOSE

>>106395845
Oof, I guess I'll just wait til zen6

Wendell seems to be the only one that can keep AM5 Asrock boards alive. I don't have his skills to be able to do that a shame because they have the best price/performance/features (if it doesn't kill the CPU). Even in his latest X870 Nova review the comments has a guy saying his 9800X3D died in it after a month.

>>106395883
It's all people that use Auto Mobo settings when the best practice for years is to do manual? Turning on XMP on am4 would also cause vsoc, vdd, vddq, and other misc voltages to skyrocket when you didnt need it. Just trusting expo default is why peoples latency is awful because they do high trfc and low trefi to make any Ryzen chip boot.

>>106395752
>single core
Over clocked 14600kf

>>106395883
I think their price and probability to cause problems is connected

>>106395752
i assume you're talking about some old game running badly
overclock your RAM:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlYxmRcdLVw

>>106395767
some X370 boards are still good but no one bought those for their ryzen 1600 poverty build

>>106395916
ASRock boards with manually set voltages (on the "safe" BIOS) are still killing CPUs.

>>106395993
Cool thanks

>>106395883
Fuck that bloated arm shill

My asus board set the vcore on my CPU to 1.5+V which is fucking retarded, you have to downvolt these things, it's now sitting at around 0.8V and runs much cooler

I still don't get the hype around ryzen. Outside of the x3d processor wtf is even the point?

>>106396143
It just werks

>>106396143
When it comes to X3D I get the point, it's easily the best CPU for gaming and several games benefit greatly from the extra pool of cache on the CPU. TR is its own thing completely too, a shitload of cores and PCIE lanes for real workstation applications. But before X3D yeah I didn't really get it either. Just look at Zen 5 sales. They were all calling it Zen 5% and a disaster launch with terrible sales until the 9800X3D changed everything. Even AMD didn't see it coming. It's a lot on Intel themselves for fucking up 3 gens in a row so badly.

>>106393091 (OP)
where's the cat

I love my 5090.

>>106396219
I was always an X3D believer
The signs were all there

>new monitor, first oled
>flipping through monitor tests fullscreen
>set screen standby time for 3 minutes and go do something else
>get back, move mouse, second monitor (VA) comes back on
>sit there for like 20 seconds waiting for the oled to come back on
>move cursor over it and realize it's already on
>fullscreen #000000 is literally indistinguishable from the monitor being off
this shit is so cool
what a time to be alive

https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=1091

Biostar B650M-Silver, why would you need more, if you don't plan to OC (actually I plan to undervolt, to save power and to run things cooler).

It has on paper good VRMs, it has Realtek ALC1220 (the new one ALC4080 is reported to cause trouble).
I would get a 7800X3D and be done with it for another 7 years.

Price: 125 Euros

>>106396355
KOS

>>106396362
No need to shill here they will sell 200 billion in china anyway

>>106396430
I can't wait for the $90 7600X3Ds on aliexpress next year.

>>106395752
9950x3d

>hdr 1400 in mh wilds
IM BEING FLASH BANGED

wow the nigger is shitposting about amd sockets now, thats a new low

>>106393145
Me too bro, hoping the computer I build will make me feel less lonely. I know it won't. :(

>>106395655
People with money to spare who want to always be on top have always been regularly upgrading to the latest parts. They've just turned into AMDfags now that Intel is failing us in everything except, like, power draw.

>>106396588
He'll stop once Intel announces that they'll be supporting 3+ gens next year.

Is there a reason to go with a powerful CPU if you're going to play games in 4K and your work software relies on GPU?

Also, is there a reason to go with a fancy case or should you just get a big cheap one with lots of holes for air?

>>106396742
sure just get a i3 and a zotac 5090

>>106396742
you'll need a powerful cpu to pair with the GPU
as for a case honestly almost any $90-$150 will get you a top tier one in terms of cooling, unless it's SFF. You can just pick one you like and add what fans you want and setup your fan profiles. More expensive ones are geared towards custom loops,very large AIOs and epenis bragging rights.

>>106396366
or some say kosm

>>106393691
check out inwin they have some nice htpc cases

>>106393436
how were the colors on that turd of a monitor anon?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FyWkQd
Current build I got from a friend. Bought it a couple of years ago. No clue if it's good or not but I'm looking to upgrade. Budget is about 1-2k, from US. Currently use it for heavy gaming and generating some sloppa occasionally.

>>106397505
theres 14600k on sale right now so if you can get one of those for cheap + free BF6 key it might be a good upgrade. It uses same mobo?

Biggest upgrade you can have is an oled monitor.
Otherwise wait for a 5070 ti super
maybe add a 2tb nvme as the boot drive

I don't get why people don't just attach fans on the outside to create a an airflow system. instead they do these open case for ITX

>>106394510
I've only had MSI once and on z690 and that's been one of the best boards I've had to date. Literally no issues at all with regards to memory or overclocking unlike the same gen Asus board I had which was a chore

>>106397531
Had a feeling I should wait. I might just get a OLED and more storage. Thanks.

>>106396032
He only changed vsoc. Asrock overcoats CPU vddio which he didn't bother setting manually

>>106396322
As someone who did a lot of memory overclocking back then, I suspected 3d vcache would be a groundbreaking technology when Lisa su demoed that prototype 5900x3d on stage. But they launched the 5800x3d a little too late and it was competing with the 12900ks with ddr5 by the time it was out.

>>106397505
Keep the CPU, board, and memory. Wait for Zen 6 if you want a new CPU.
The biggest upgrade is a video card.

>>106397663
yeah and the 5800X3D gave the 12900KS a bloody nose.

>>106397637
Your conjecture. ASRock only mentioned loose TDC and EDC values.

>>106393091 (OP)
I'm still waiting for a direct upgrade to 750ti.
>Still no new 75w gpu without a power connector

>>106397674
Yeah, I assume all of these were good, the only issue I saw was obviously the storage and the video card. Hopefully I can still get something for it when I finally upgrade.

>>106397678
It didn't. 12900KS with ddr5-6400 was still faster at the time. You can make an argument for the 5800x3d's value, but it wasn't the straight win that AMD needed to showcase x3d

>>106397684
He stated increasingly higher vsoc was needed over time which points at an IO die degradation on his specific chip. Two other voltages thats used by the IOD gets overvolted hugely when using expo which are CPU vddp and CPU vddio

>>106397740
revisionist history, the 12900KS beat the 5800X3D only sometimes with the 6400 ram.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBFNoKUHjcg

>>106397737
You can overclock the CPU & memory, but it's a bit of a chore with all the stability testing.
You can copy Buildzoid's tuned 6000MT/s CL30 timings, but I would set tREFI @ 40959 because this doesn't heat the memory chip too much (without active cooling).
https://youtu.be/RTmbYak_8gE?t=290
If your XMP kit is 30-36-36-76, I'd only change tRAS to 52 and leave the other primaries alone.

Enable XMP, you can leave CPU & memory voltages on [Auto] and copy the Buildzoid tuned timings except for tREFI & tRAS.

>>106397761
Voltage needs current to power the die; ASRock identified loose current values as the cause.
AMD also set stricter CPU voltages since the 7800X3D meltdowns.

>>106397860
Asrock doesn't actually know what's going on since they already said once before that the issue was fixed with 3.20 and they also released that weird video saying the board still works after taking out the debris from the blown up CPU.
Even AMD themselves are still root causing the issue

>>106397884
when I bought 5600x and my mobo usb ports didnt work it took amd 18 months to fix the issue with bios updates

>>106397884
If CPU VDDIO is the cause, AMD didn't thoroughly investigate the previous issue (7800X3D).
They've released multiple AGESA updates that enforced stricter voltages (unless the user enabled LN2/XOC mode).

>>106397893
that isn't AMD's fault, that's the vendors fault

>>106397893
>>106397913
Some people fixed the problem by RMAing their chips which shows that it was a problem with some IO dies

>Day7 of waiting for G80SD
Delivery booked now ETA 10-13 hours from now

>>106394789
We will see!
A few interesting things about this and maybe more things I forget
>Supposed to have really good monitor-level upscaling
>Samsung game motion plus exists on their monitors like on their TVs which might be an underrated feature which is like free motion interpolation rivaling and beating nv frame gen with alleged less artifacts and it's running on a fucking tv chip
>various other monitor related service menu tweaks
>if I get eye strain from qdoled it's over I will either get woled/should have gotten the 4th gen 27" panel with alleged less eye strain for 499€ instead/go back to lcd

>Trying to setup the best possible FPS cap for games
>in-game limiter = inconsistent frame times
>RTSS = occasional CPU spikes
>FRTC = perfect, but adds huge input lag
I'm starting to lose it bois!

Question: I need to replace a PSU, I'm between a Corsair RM750e and a Corsair RM750x, the former I can get for a very low price, is it worth to go for the x model for a rig that'll be used for another two years tops?

>>106398971
Why would you be discarding the PSU after 2 years? You can put it in your next build.

>>106393091 (OP)
>1080p: KTC H24T09P
is this still good? I think I might buy it, but I don't have much to go off of

>>106398977
Not my build, that's why.

>>106398998
why not go for 1440p
they're like <200€

so..AMD opensourced FSR4...

>>106399016
this will surely damage their position in the desktop gpu space as the competition will use it to make their upscalers better

>>106393252
don't think it supports two x16 GPUs, 2nd one runs x8

>>106399027
the open-sirs community can also use it so I'm not complaining

>>106399016
the duck will get stronger i guess?

So... 5700x3d is done? There is no stock in my country and i don't really want to change to AM5 but... If 5700x3d is done please help me with a good cheap motherboard forn AM5 (for 7600x)

>>106399109
get a sh one

>>106399109
>go to your local IT shop's website
>filter by what you need on your mobo
>???
>Profit

>>106399008
And your friend/client/catamite can't re-use it either? Honestly if that is the case, for whatever reason, even the RMe is somewhat overkill. Yeah they get a bad rap for cost-cutting but PSU expectations over here are ridiculously high by normie standards. If the build doesn't /need/ ATX3 you could get away with a more midrange unit. OTOH these are commodity components so price is everything; if you're getting the RMe for $80 or whatever you might as well go for it.

>>106399016
accidentally, which is pretty funny

>>106393091 (OP)
Hey I have that case.

>>106399034
Is SLI and Crossfire still a thing? I thought nowadays software has to be specifically made to take advantage of dual graphics cards.

>recommended case
>no North
what the heck

>>106399154
that was always the case and no its not still a thing because developers don't want to spend the time optimizing for SLI and Crossfire.
they don't even want to spend time optimizing in general.

>>106399154
Nope. The only people still using those technologies are extreme overclockers chasing #1 3dmark scores and period accurate retro gaymers who want to play old AAA slop
Also the last hardware to support SLI is the 3090/3090ti

>>106399034
Of course not. Am5 CPUs don't even have 32 lanes of pcie

Lesson I learned over the years : always go for n+1.
When people tell you at any moment that you need X graphic card and Y CPU to run games at for example 2k 120 fps, they seem to never factor in :
- poorly optimized games which isn't that rare
- mods, some of them can be quite taxing
- emulation
- not overheating your PC, just because it can doesn't mean it should
If n+1 is too much above your budget, you can do like me and aim for slightly lower, I know for instance that I'm joining the 1080p is enough meme, at least for a 24" monitor. Also while I felt that 120fps was a point of no return I'm starting to question it.

>>106399214
technically AM5 CPUs have 120 lanes of pcie 3.0

>>106399240
By that logic 9800x3d is a 41.6ghz cpu

>>106399252
>>106399240
doesnt RAM use that exact logic

>>106399240
Yeah it's kind of crazy just how much IO bandwidth modern desktop CPUs have. People moan about lane splitting dropping your main slot to x8 but that's still twice the bandwidth of PCIe3x16 (which current-gen cards still struggle to saturate).
I'd actually like to see a more conservative consumer chipset limited to ~B550 standards (20x 4.0 + 16x 3.0) in order to cut costs without sacrificing peripheral features a la A620. For reference that's still overkill for 99% of gaming rigs.

>>106399264
Lanes aren't ram. You can connect two drives to x8 of gen4 lanes for full bandwidth but you can't easily do the same for two drives on x4 gen5 lanes due to the lack of gen5 x2 drives and the need for additional ICs to split the x4 lane into shared bandwidth x8 lanes

>>106399352
That's the real kicker. If I'm paying $300, let alone $1000+, for a board it should be chock full of PLX chips.

Do I understand it right that if potential FPS is above the monitor's refresh rate, you'll get tearing with gsync even if actual FPS is capped way below it?
Also, is gsync somehow supposed to reduce input lag from vsync if you enable both?

>>106399370
Everyone stopped using PLX chips after they got acquired by broadcom 11 years ago
I've heard they started price gouging on their chips since then but haven't found any hard numbers on it

>>106393091 (OP)
Stupid, sexy asus prime.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-comments-on-burning-am5-socket-chipmaker-blames-motherboard-vendors-for-not-following-official-bios-guidelines

AYYMDEAD HOUSEFIRESX TECHNOLO/g/Y

>>106399418
Yeah maybe showing my age with that name. Doesn't have to be PLX brand ofc (unless they're the only game in town).

>>106399409
I only had Freesync and gsync compatible monitors, FPS above refresh rate causes tearing, but if you cap your FPS inside your monitor's VRR range (like 42-144) you won't get tearing. Vsync is unnecessary, it only adds some input lag. I think Vsync is recommended with gsync, but only in driver, not ingame. Do no use vsync both in driver AND game, it might cause frame time conflicts.

>>106399438
kinda weird both intel and amd have issues managing volts in their cpus
>oh but its actually the mobo makers fault, keep buying our shit plz. Fuck asus btw. Asrock? More like ASS COCK

No matter what happens, I only trust AMD.

>>106399485
it literally is the motherboard manufacturers going out of spec in AMDs case

>>106394611
Good luck with that, anon. I shall join to you soon.

>>106399465
Well I get tearing with 60FPS@120hz but not with 60FPS@165hz when the potential FPS is above 120 but below 165, which is what led me to believe it also matters. Shit's weird.

>>106399526
If you want to use VRR properly, you must run your monitor on the native refresh rate. Some monitors' VRR function isn't working when the refresh rate is set below their native.

>>106399465
Vsync helps eliminate bottom half screen tearing while using vrr. Vsync doesn't really have a downside if you use the driver version and are several frame below the native (e.g. 140hz on 144hz display)

>>106393394
Here you go
2x48 6000 CL30 without any RGayB

>>106399550
What a pain.

>>106399613
>>106393394

Retard me forgot to post the kit
cmk96gx5m2b6000z30

>need wifi for pc, motherboards pci port is blocked by gpu
>getting a wifi motherboard for an am4 setup is pointless especially since any future gpu will be bottlenecked fronm pci 4.0
>cpu is 5800x3d so going am5 still seems a waste
>wifi usb adapters are all dogshit with shit drivers or none for linux

Wtf is the solution here? Bite the bullet and get a new am4 motherboard with wifi or am5 and sell the 5800x3d or something else?

>>106399617
I know. And even if you set it up correctly, then this happens: >>106398838

>>106399629
got a spare m.2 slot?

>>106399629
5800x3ds are worth a lot for being the best in socket CPU and being out of production so you should be able to upgrade to am5 without paying too much

>>106399664
No, got a micro atx b450m ds3h and already occupied by a ssd.
>>106399672
I noticed that and could get away with selling the 5800x3d for 290 euros at best right now but still getting a new cpu 7800x3d, motherboard and ram would be at 500 something (so maybe at 230+ euros upgrade cost).

>>106399629
>getting a wifi motherboard for an am4 setup is pointless especially since any future gpu will be bottlenecked fronm pci 4.0
PCI-E 4.0 won't bottleneck you unless you hit the VRAM limit of your GPU

>>106399698
You can get away with a cheaper 7700, 7700x or 9700x and still have better performance than your 5800x3d

What's the use case for all this junk?

>bing bing wahoo
kys

>>106399808
AI slop generation, 5000+ browser tab goon sessions, flexing on poor people

>>106399629
if you have enough clearance maybe you could use a low profile pcie riser

>>106399808
most useless post award

>>106390205
>If you can't fix it with "software" try to adjust your monitor .
Bruh, I think adjusting brightness from 80 to 60 on monitor OSD helped.
>nvidia drivers become brighter from version to version

>>106399808
Thanks for the reminder to play odyssey

>>106399703
Ehh for the next 2 years maybe could get away with it but at that point i guess its better to be safe than sorry
>>106399714
Checked the benchmarks and quite true. I guess selling it now that is in demand on a high price seems like the best option
>>106399818
Theres no room for even a riser, the lack of room in the motherboard tought me how much of a budget trap micro atx motherboards are

somewhat pissed, i ordered a fractal design xl *RC* because it was cheaper and the pics madee the glass look less opaque. turns out its the same opacity, and also RC means reverse connector, which totally fucks up how the cable spaces are placed. i had to spend an our prefishing cabes thru before installing mobo. and now its fine, but the cables look a little uglier than they should with a normal case
DONT BUY RC, why do they even fucking off it. and why wouldnt they keep both cable channels even if its RC.

Why are there no good PC cases? I can think of 3 classes for full sized ATX:
>the old 90s bullshit with thick plastic front panel and cumbersome sheet metal slide cover on the side
>gamer bullshit like lian-li cases
>rack server cases
I just want something that uses vertical space better than a rack and which can be easily opened and closed. This shouldn't be hard.

>>106399971
Used all aluminium cases from the 2000s

I'm looking for a new monitor and currently considering gigabyte aorus fo32u2p since it has DP 2.1. Has nvidia fixed their issues with DSC? Heard there was also an issue with fullscreen games where it flickers black or something? Have these been fixed and I can just get a cheaper dp 1.4 monitor? Is there any other reason I should get 2.1?

>>106399971
I just need a rack for 3.5". Just saw it off and mail it anon
>The Case designer wants me to avoid using my HDD swarm
They want the average, innocent anon to have 500FGBs of storage
So he deletes his little dark age edits and copies of GZDOOM to make room for safehorny battle royale slop and or 4K blu rays of Schindler's list, high guardian spice and documentaries on Israel to get him used to the trenches they want him to fight in
>Don't trust the case design jew

Friendly reminder OLED is garbage

>>106399971
Picrel is chink ATX case made primarily for Turkish market: Zeiron Montreal mesh 4xRGB.
It's 364x185x425mm which is tiny for ATX case. I was looking for a case that can fit ATX and then into my coffee table and this is literally the only one I could find even online. It's even smaller if you remove front panel. Yes the metal is chinkonium thin but it's coated properly and bent in all the right places for rigidity. I stumbled full on into it with my foot last night and it wasn't bent anywhere. Comes with bulged motherboard side panel and simple TG panel. The only downsides are gay-ass fans with 2-pin molex connectors that cannot be un-gayed without replacing them, and that upper MB power connector must be thrown in place before you screw down motherboard. I even think 240MM AIO would fit inside onto upper panel as long as mobo heatsinks aren't ginormous.

0.33L drink can for scale.

>>106400105
This looks like it has the slide-on sheet covers on the sides, which I hate. And the thick plastic cover on the front, which I hate. But that's only a guess.

>>106400111
Yes the panel on motherboard side is slide on with 2 screws. TG panel is screw-on with 4 screws. Front cover is mostly metal mesh in plastic frame, but it is two fingers (about 1") thick. My point was that you can find what you need if you look for it, nowadays chinks make everything.

>>106400083
t. anon who can't afford an OLED

>>106400324
I can burn 1k on them every few years when they burn-in. But the tech is just shit and I'm not supporting it. I rather get an extemely good miniLED and use that until they fix OLEDs.

>>106400348
ur miniled can be okay but will always have orders of magnitudes worse pixel response times

>>106400364
And why would I care about that when it's still more than good enough for the few cs2 games I play every few months?

>>106400390
>"Why would I buy a Ferrari when I only go to the local shop for some groceries twice a week?"

>>106399166
it's played out

And so, I will probably build my own case, out of leftover wood and duct tape.

>>106400427
Exactly. It's overkill and mostly a useless benefit.

>>106399227
I been burned by:
-i5 is good enough for gaming
-1050TI is good enough for gaming
-144Hz VA is good enough for gaming
-

shit had me upgrading something every 6 months to a year fucking bullshit buy everything at the top end and let it sit for at least 5 years

>>106400427
>Ferrari
High maintenance car, with probably not enough space for occasional shopping.

>>106399227
Oh look another cope just dropped
>Why Gamers DON’T Need More Cores, 6-Cores Still Works Well!

These guys (all using top end CPUs/GPUs at home, got his daughter a 9800X3D and a 5080 and two OLED monitors) will tell you to buy a 6 core CPU lol

Just pair it with your 5090

Is ASUS TUF GAMING X870-PLUS enough for 9950X3D? The premium boards are just too damn expensive. MSI boards also have some bad rep, but maybe I shouldn't trust it.
Help me, anons.

>>106400561
never buy asus
I got msi and its been fine

>>106400542
People who buy a 5090 usually don't buy a 6-core CPU. However a decent 6-core, like a 7600X will run basically anything at high frame rates paired with a middle to top GPU.

>>106400574
> never buy asus
Because..? Don't reply if you're just a brand fanboy pls.

>>106400574
Why not

>>106400593
>>106400592
fuck off

>>106400592
NTA, but ASUS is the only company that denied me an RMA on a GPU and has awful warranty support, if you do get an ASUS GPU/mobo buy it from microcenter or something with their store warranty

>>106400592
Motherboards are just a dice roll everyone has a bad rep
just look for whatever feature you want at the lowest price. For me that's a 7 seg display and MSI Tomahawk had that at the lowest price. Not a single B850 has a 7 segment display.

I can't believe I'm actually gonna do a 265K build lol

>>106400601
So you're a fanboy after all, great.
>>106400612
Neither company will have any customer support in my country, kek.
>>106400624
Looks like that's what I'll do, thanks, anon.

>>106400630
why
14600k is on sale rn and 265k has no market gap to fit in

>>106400630
>I can't believe I'm actually gonna do a 265K build lol
Why would you do that?

>>106400427
That sounds like one of the situations you DONT want a Ferrari since those short city drives will wreak havoc on the transmission and drivetrain

>>106400496
I imagine a lot of people got burned by "8gb vram is enough" from 2020 to 2023

I'm going to support the Greatest Ally and buy an Arc b580

>>106400729
why
nvidia released the 5060

>>106400671
I do simulation/3D work along with gaming and the only other choices that make sense are the 9950X3D or the 285K and those are too expensive. Threadripper would be most ideal but maybe when they pay me to do it instead of me paying them to learn it.

>>106400630
They're so cheap that it's hard to pass up on if you don't particularly care about gaming
It helps that arrowlake has pretty good IO options too

so close, yet so far
any other fun and exciting benchmarks where you can watch numbers go up on a screen?

>>106400739
The 5060 is more expensive and has 8GB of VRAM with only 8 pcie lanes

>>106400684
See? But just because you'd only go to buy groceries, other people would use it to flex, go on a road trip, enjoy driving etc. If you only browse 4chan, sure, why would you need an OLED? You can do that on the shittiest TN, but people want something good, something new, something awesome! Playing an OLEDs are great, but shitting on it because you can't afford it and make up shit like "burn-in meme" is just pathetic. All of these monitors are already full of protection, pixel shift, dimming. There's just no fucking way it'd burn in, unless you intentionally want it to burn in, running the monitor on 100% brightness with still images, white background.

>>106400390
Nooo, saar you must consume!

>>106400759
yeah when you invest 300€ on a gpu you end up making sacrifices like lowering texture quality to medium to play newer games

>>106400077
bump

>>106400757
3dmark
aida64
in-game benchmarks

>>106400777
I've heard that DSC is fixed on rtx5000
Not sure how it is on older GPUs though

>>106400777
I dont think its really worth it to pay many hundreds more extra to go from dp 1.4 to 2.1
the image quality is obviously the same and as you said its about some black screen issue which may or may not happen. First reddit google result has people say its fixed and Ive no personal experience with it.

>>106400761
>there's no way [headcanon babble]
Kill yourself retarded shilling nigger.

>>106399485
MB vendors are just so used to doing whatever that they are caught off-guard when chips actually need the right voltage going into the CPU.

>>106400745
>I do simulation/3D work
okay that's fair. one of the only use-cases that makes sense for these intel chips.

>>106400815
after you

>>106400787
>3dmark
tuning GPUs is not fun
CPU test might be good though
>aida64
lol nah
>in-game benchmarks
any recommendations? old source games have timedemo mode, that might be fun
i base all my purchasing decisions on HL2 framerates

>>106400077
most of those dp 2.1 modules arent even full bandwidth and they use dsc also.
I haven't had any flickering on dsc monitors with all the gpus / monitors i've had.
I went from a 4080 to a 5080 with my monitor having a dp 2.1 (13.5 Gbps) connection and nothing changed.

>>106400830
You go ahead, trannies go first after all.

anyone else with a 9800x3d, what kind of negative curve optimizer can you run?

I've been transcoding a lot of videos on my cpu and i've only bothered to try -10 on my new motherboard. (I have -15 in my notes for this cpu).

>xhe bought an OLED knowing it would die within a year and now needs to cope here
KEKAROOOOO

>>106400877
mines crashes at idle anything above -12 all core so what do is -10 all core + curve shaper an additional -10 except for idle and low load.

>>106400854
No, anon. I insist you go first this time.

>>106400888
NTA but try setting "power supply idle control" to "typical current idle"
i've heard it can help for CO stability, it disables some idle power states

>>106400077
With nvidia at least on a multi monitor setup if the resolution changes with DSC enabled on one monitor you get some black flickering for a few seconds. This can happen if you start a game or alt tab. I don't know if this is an issue with amd, a single monitor or only happens in a multi monitor setup when only one has DSC but not the others

>>106400899
Your mother gargling on my cock says you should listen to your superiors. Go first, troon.

>>106400888
I have yet to really try ocing the cpu. I got a motherboard with the external clock generator just so I could try to do something more complex like that.

>>106400905
i want my idle power states though. each core uses 2w at idle. its stable with curve shaper.

>>106400913
I also do a +100mhz oz. if i go higher i get worse scores.

>purchased my OLED back in 2023/06
>meaning I use it for more than 2 years straight
>every day
>all day
>not a single burn-in, pixel error, any kind of issue
I dab on poorfags and spit on their grave. Keep using your cheap, good ol' tech kek.

>>106400757
https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition

>>106400931
>brownoid coming up with fake stories
Streetshitter

>>106400943
How do I prove it to you?

>>106400943
>retreats to name calling, racism even
You look like a retard. And actual poorfag.

>>106400948
you're arguing with some 3rd world brown teen
why are you doing it

>>106400761
>people want something good, something new, something awesome!
>>106400761
>shitting on it because you can't afford it
>buy a Ferarri for grocery trips even though it's fucking stupid, otherwise you're poor!
No.

>>106400833
If all you want to see is number go up then any benchmark with statistics. cs2 benchmark, dota2 replay benchmark, ffxiv benchmark, pso2 benchmark, gears of war 5 benchmark, horizon benchmark, cyberpunk benchmark, etc.

you can also run capeframex while doing demoscenes.

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65342
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=88524
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=62935
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=67113

>>106400952
>muh racism
Back to redd1t, before I hit your family with my train, pajeet.
>>106400948
Should've thought about that before making your fake story, Poojesh

Any discrete GPU sag bracket to use on the meshify 2 case? Something to install on the case wall and not look obnoxious.

>>106400948
Do a dead pixel test and post result for each colour.

>>106400931
So, we want to see photo of your oled display, anon. Can you share it with us???

>>106400986
>incoherent rage
>no arguments
>probably seething that your job got outsourced by one of the companies who sponsored trump
kek

>>106401017
>[schizophrenic pajeet babble]
Seethe more how your screen burned in after 2 months (you'll never be white btw) KEK

>>106400877
Mine does -15 CO in y-cruncher VT3 with manually overclocked 6000cl26 ram
I checked it's SP and factory voltage on an Asus board once and it's an average to bad bin 9800x3d with very high stock voltages though

>>106401003
I'm not at home right, someone has to work you know, but I can take a photo of my monitor for sure. Even more, I can take a photo of my OLED TV!

>>106401033
Sure, buddy, it is totally believable. I believed.

>>106401026
See >>106400931

>>106400981
>If all you want to see is number go up
that's why you buy better hardware
surely people don't actually play those terrible games that require a 4090 to run at medium settings
>you can also run capeframex while doing demoscenes
now this is what i'm talking about

>>106401044
It's true, I'll be home in 2 hours, just you wait!

>>106401045
SAAAAAAAAR PLSSS BELIEV MY FAKA STORI!!!!

>>106401086
I don't know why you'd humor that retard who's pissing himself.

Last time I stubbornly asked him to prove that he has an nvidia GPU. He just complained to tranny janny and xhe has banned me.

>a woman gets drunk each week during pregnancy
>its alright because 15 years later 4chan is there to provide tard wrangling services
>the users do it for FREE

>bought OLED in 2023/06
>thought I was entering the future of display tech
>two weeks later
>health bar permanently tattooed on screen
>minimap burned in so hard it haunts me even in Excel
>watching anime and can still see League of Legends UI ghosting like a demon
>turn brightness down to "candlelight mode" to "protect" panel
>now playing Elden Ring in what looks like a cave with sunglasses on
>friends with cheap IPS still vibing with crisp colors, no issues
>me stuck worshipping pixel refresh cycle like it’s a religion
>tfw my $800 screen aged faster than a banana in the sun

>>106401212
how did your rma process go

>>106400883
Just means I get a refund lmao

>>106399296
I'm not sure which is worse, 8 PCIe 5.0 lanes or 16 PCIe 4.0 lanes, as far as GPU performance goes, in games.

The OLED envy in this thread has gone out of control.

>>106401333
>trips of truth

>>106398998
Amazon discounted the ASUS XG259CS if you're in the US ($130), I'd get that instead.

>>106401392
>>106401392
>>106401392

>>106399166
>>recommended case
>>no North
North & Epoch has a worse case frame; the Meshify 3 has a newly-tooled one (less front airflow obstruction).
North & Epoch's top panel radiator size is limited to 240mm; Meshify 3 can fit a 280mm rad at the top.
North includes mediocre Aspect fans (2x 140mm). Epoch includes 3x 120mm Momentum, Meshify 3 has 3x 140mm Momentum fans.
Fractal Momentum fans are very good; they can almost match the new Noctua G2 fans' overall performance.

Buy North if you like the design, but it's not a case worth recommending over the Meshify 3.