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Anonymous No.106398649 >>106398661 >>106398664 >>106399055 >>106399119 >>106399176 >>106399185 >>106399520 >>106399624 >>106399785 >>106399941 >>106400112 >>106400188 >>106403318 >>106403324 >>106403338 >>106404855 >>106407211 >>106407888 >>106407952
Why brazil first?
Anonymous No.106398661 >>106398689 >>106398958 >>106399021 >>106399460 >>106399652 >>106399795 >>106400072 >>106401101
>>106398649 (OP)
Monkeys are the closest specie to human. It's a no brainer to test it on them first
Anonymous No.106398664
>>106398649 (OP)
To make me suffer
Google has lost billions because of me alone.
Anonymous No.106398684 >>106404370
The end of an era. Basically, Play Store = App Store now.
Anonymous No.106398689
>>106398661
lmao
Anonymous No.106398714 >>106399624
those countries probably install revanced the most
Anonymous No.106398784
Remind me to not update my phone any further
Anonymous No.106398828
Wat nou?
Anonymous No.106398927 >>106398941 >>106399000
>jeet_nation
>literally posting the copied thread while the original thread is still up >>106385619
jesus fucking christ I hate musk and his checkmark
Anonymous No.106398941
>>106398927
Just need to insert more poo2loo jokes in your posts.
Anonymous No.106398958
>>106398661
Anonymous No.106399000
>>106398927
that thread isn't about brazil, i want seething macaco animals
Anonymous No.106399021
>>106398661
kek
Anonymous No.106399036 >>106399073 >>106399120
Whats the point of androids now then
Anonymous No.106399055
>>106398649 (OP)
They are too poor to afford an iPhone.
Anonymous No.106399073 >>106399586 >>106408161 >>106408601
>>106399036
same as always? cheap normiephone. honestly, this affects just a couple of /g/ schizos. google can afford to lose 0.01% customer base for tighter grip on their ecosystem.
besides, what are you gonna do? buy an iphone? lol, you're not going anywhere. it's like with those cheap airlines. they can literally rape you on board, and you will still come crawling back.
Anonymous No.106399119
>>106398649 (OP)
their complains mean nothing to anyone. when they'll implement it in 1st world countries they'll say "it's almost everywhere anyway at this point, can't roll it back"
Anonymous No.106399120
>>106399036
nothing's changed. i'll keep consuming my verified gacha, tiktok and whatsapp. only weirdos install unverified and unsafe apps.
Anonymous No.106399176 >>106407945
>>106398649 (OP)
Brazil already has an (in theory) highly regulated communications industry. For example, only approved phones can be legally imported into the country.
Obviously it's still Brazil, so I have my doubts over enforcement.
Anonymous No.106399185 >>106399215
>>106398649 (OP)
Damn, just at around the same time Samsung started locking the bootloaders with their One UI 8 :^)
Anonymous No.106399215
>>106399185
I just got an update for UI 7, how do I check if it will lock the bootloader if I install it?
Anonymous No.106399460
>>106398661
Rude.
Anonymous No.106399467 >>106399481
What if I stay on Android 13 forever? What about that, huh?
Anonymous No.106399481 >>106399507
>>106399467
>Google plays services updates and with it comes the new safety features
nothing personal!
Anonymous No.106399491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlh61zIO2fk
Anonymous No.106399507 >>106399573
>>106399481
I'll never update.
Anonymous No.106399520 >>106399560
>>106398649 (OP)
Countries where Android is majority and where many use custom ROMs.
Anonymous No.106399560 >>106399593
>>106399520
>where many use custom ROMs
Won't this make the restrictions either nothing or easier to bypass?

Either way, when this comes here, I'm either going to have to switch to GrapheneOS or similar, or rip Play Services out of my stock ROM myself.
Anonymous No.106399573 >>106399598 >>106399743
>>106399507
Play Services updates itself silently in the background, with no way to make it not. It's been that way since at least ICS. I remember I had a rooted phone that had gotten old enough that it was near unusable. If I uninstalled updates to Play Services, it would make it nice and snappy again since that was the main source of the lag. But then within a few hours it would update itself again and it was back to lag hell.
Anonymous No.106399586 >>106410036
>>106399073
You're not welcome here faggot.
Anonymous No.106399593
>>106399560
For power users, the average user is too dumb and scared. It's a easy win for Google and a way to demonize people that fight it.
Anonymous No.106399598 >>106399645 >>106401368
>>106399573
I actually put [x] Doubt into what you just said and went to check my phones. I have two: one chink and one Samsung. Both of them indeed had more or less updated versions. I'm royally fucked, I realize that now. God spits on my soul, once again.
Anonymous No.106399624 >>106399701 >>106403366 >>106407255
>>106398649 (OP)
>>106398714

indonesian here

bunch of scammer use apk (from whatsapp apk for remote access phone) to steal money from old peoples.
Anonymous No.106399645 >>106399736 >>106401368
>>106399598
There is probably some hackery you can do to prevent it updating if you have root. Either some permissions or ACLs or chattr +i on the files it would try to update or where the update initially downloads to. I don't have root on my current phone, but that will probably be my first step in combatting this when it rolls out.
Anonymous No.106399652 >>106399685
>>106398661
w-why is this allowed
Anonymous No.106399685
>>106399652
Why would animal testing not be allowed?
Anonymous No.106399701 >>106399739
>>106399624
How do they even get old people to install an .apk file. I can barely get my grandma to switch hdmi input on her tv
Anonymous No.106399707
Is google using ai to determine if muh device won't work with your app?
Also does this affect all android versions that can open google play store or is only newest ones?
Anonymous No.106399736 >>106399757 >>106399777
>>106399645
>There is probably some hackery you can do to prevent it updating if you have root.
Banking would still remain a problem, right? There's that, too. I wish I could put an Android inside an Android, like a docker container, just close enough to run/fool banking applications.
Anonymous No.106399739 >>106399755
>>106399701
Probably ads. "Update your Whatsapp", 'You have one new message", "Congratulations, click here to claim your prize".
Anonymous No.106399743 >>106399775 >>106399778
>>106399573
is it this or something else? doesn't auto update here. stock Android 13 with the play store simply disabled. I get my apps from f-droid and aurora store.
Anonymous No.106399755 >>106399781 >>106399786
>>106399739
Ok that's how you get them to download the file but how do you get them to install it. On newer phones it tells you that installing apps is risky and then you need to wait , afterwards you have to go to the setting where you can authorize the install. It's a lot of steps for boomers
Anonymous No.106399757 >>106399777 >>106399790 >>106400119
>>106399736
There's a bunch of bullshit you can do to hide root on a stock ROM and get bank apps to work. As far as I'm aware the way to go is KernelSu and susfs, which work more or less like a rootkit, exposing root access and various stuff like su and Magisk to processes you've enabled it for, and then hiding it from other processes so everything looks pristine, stock and locked down.
Anonymous No.106399775 >>106399799 >>106399842
>>106399743
>I get my apps from f-droid and aurora store.
>aurora
The dude who runs that app could do the funniest thing and completely fucked all of us
Every time I get an app there I contemplate this
Society truly rests on a few special volunteers maintaining the duct tape shielding us from chaos
Anonymous No.106399777 >>106408429
>>106399736
>>106399757
you just get two devices. one for the goy stuff, you can keep it cucked, locked Play Protect'ed, covid pass'd etc. just so the banking app is happy. and then use another degoogled device for regular day to day stuff.
Anonymous No.106399778
>>106399743
>with the play store simply disabled
That might be why it isn't updating for you. My Play Store is enabled and I kind of assumed it was one of the apps the system doesn't allow you to disable. My Motorola Edge+ 2023 (Android 13) has the "disable" button for it enabled. This might be the way to go.
Anonymous No.106399781
>>106399755
Good point. I don't know. Maybe an alternative version on the store who's baptized with mischief?
Anonymous No.106399785
>>106398649 (OP)
Many changes like these are deployed to shitholes first to test the waters
Anonymous No.106399786 >>106399796
>>106399755
Indogs are so poor that the boomers are still on android oreo
Anonymous No.106399790 >>106399833
>>106399757
>KernelSu
I remember something like SuperSu that used to have on my Galaxy Young or something. Those were the days
Thanks for the brotip
Anonymous No.106399795
>>106398661
lmao
european bros, we should go last
Anonymous No.106399796
>>106399786
Even on Oreo you still have to go to settings and enable 3rd party sources and click through a warning that this is dangerous before you can install an apk.
Anonymous No.106399799
>>106399775
sort of, but only when installing new apps I think. because for existing apps, Android won't let you install a malicious app with the same package id because it enforces that it's signed by the same developer as the already installed app.
getting aurora itself from fdroid rather than e.g. github provides another layer of safety, if only due to how long it takes fdroid to build new app versions. so if anything shady was going on with it, hopefully someone will realize soon enough
Anonymous No.106399833 >>106400103
>>106399790
SuperSu was just an app for installing, updating and managing su into the /system partition, back when it was ext4 and could be remounted rw. At least devices I dealt with, it was usually installed by either unlocking the bootloader or using an exploit to replace the recovery with a custom one like TWRP and then using that to unpack a zip into your /system partition to add the su binary.

Today /system is erofs which is inherently read-only and basically like squashfs, so you can't add or change anything in it short of rebuilding the whole ROM. So instead there's Magisk which typically loads as part of the initramfs and mounts overlays on top of various parts of the filesystem. There are some "hide" modules for it, but it all runs as user processes which makes it harder to hide. KernelSu is a newer option that does very similar things but stuffs more of it inside a set of kernel patches since stuff running inside the kernel is harder for user processes to discover.
Anonymous No.106399842
>>106399775
Similarly some nameless dude at Google could do the same with the Play Store.
Anonymous No.106399941
>>106398649 (OP)
>jeet_nation
Anonymous No.106400072
>>106398661
Fuck man that's rough
Anonymous No.106400103 >>106406218
>>106399833
Thanks for the info dump, bro
And very good to know
What's your background, anon?
Anonymous No.106400112
>>106398649 (OP)
>they're doing it just as China is making their own phone OSs
Do they want to lose? Entire nations will switch to Chinese OSs because Google refuses to verify some local devs that everyone relies on locally.
Anonymous No.106400119 >>106406218
>>106399757
You also need to obtain leaked manufacturer keys to pass (((Play Integrity))) these days. Unfortunate
Anonymous No.106400188
>>106398649 (OP)
>Why brazil first?
Pirate nation and I am not talking about the retard in the twitter pick.
This was never about security.
Anonymous No.106401101
>>106398661
greasy hands typed this
Anonymous No.106401291
>no india
Anonymous No.106401368 >>106406218
>>106399645
>>106399598
Or you can just... use ADB?
Anonymous No.106403299
Doesn't this just prevent modified apks?
You can still install the million alternative youtube frontends that have no ads
Anonymous No.106403318
>>106398649 (OP)
FINALLY. Abolish all this niggers once and for all !!
Anonymous No.106403324 >>106403342
>>106398649 (OP)
>Why brazil first?
Anonymous No.106403338
>>106398649 (OP)
numero uno
Anonymous No.106403342 >>106403368 >>106407319
>>106403324
They deserve it because they are the ones behind this ai slop spam.
Anonymous No.106403359 >>106403381
>jannies removed fpbp
Faggots
Anonymous No.106403366
>>106399624
tax apk scam is massive too.
Anonymous No.106403368
>>106403342
Yeah, the (((brazilians)))
Anonymous No.106403381 >>106403722
>>106403359
>>jannies removed fpbp
What was it?
Anonymous No.106403722 >>106403988 >>106404037
>>106403381
This thing. It was funny.
Anonymous No.106403800
bump for macacos and other thirdie dogs
Anonymous No.106403988
>>106403722
Nice.
Anonymous No.106404037 >>106405029
>>106403722
This
Anonymous No.106404370
>>106398684
it's even shittier than app store. it's full of malware apps
Anonymous No.106404535 >>106404748 >>106406228
>first: Brazil
What the fuck man
I basically only use sideloaded apps, 10/14 of the shit on my homescreen is F-Droid

I'll just stop using my phone I suppose, no much use when the only app I'm allowed is Whatsapp to talk to my family
Anonymous No.106404748
>>106404535
>he doesn't use TG
ngmi
Anonymous No.106404855
>>106398649 (OP)
Real answer is because google suspects (or has empirical data suggesting) most malware developed for Android originates from developers in these countries.
Anonymous No.106405029
>>106404037
>pic
kek'd
Anonymous No.106405952
I really only use revanced but this is gonna be a pain in the ass.
Anonymous No.106406218
>>106400103
>What's your background, anon?
Just somebody who tinkers with Android and Linux stuff and develops and maintains semi-embedded Linux systems for my job. Been a bit since I've had my daily driver phone rooted though, there's just been less need with non-root able to do more, and more headache with apps that check for root and phones that cripple security hardware when you unlock the bootloader.

>>106400119
If you want to get strong integrity you need a leaked keybox yes, and then you have to keep it up to date. Very few apps require strong integrity though and device integrity is enough for most stuff.

>>106401368
All assuming they keep the ability to do that. Still a pain in the ass, and adds way more headache to updating F-Droid apps.
Anonymous No.106406228
>>106404535
>I basically only use sideloaded apps
Settings, apps, Google Play Store, disable. I don't think Play Services updates without Play Store, and Play Services is what would be enforcing this.
Anonymous No.106407211
>>106398649 (OP)
lol if it's true, anti piracy war
Anonymous No.106407255
>>106399624
>muh security
bullshit
Anonymous No.106407319 >>106407849
>>106403342
nope they just love piracy, and firsties are seething for it, I wonder why russia is not in that list
Anonymous No.106407849
>>106407319
>I wonder why russia is not in that list
All the Russians capable of doing that left the motherland or died fighting hohols.
Anonymous No.106407888 >>106408830
>>106398649 (OP)
they're the countries most willing to swallow closed-source slop
i had to explain the concept of open source to an online friend who lives in indonesia i met in a game and he and his buddies had absolutely no idea what i was babbling about
they just could not believe that anything like linux could even exist. it was odd.
Anonymous No.106407945
>>106399176
Anonymous No.106407952
>>106398649 (OP)
Because having Lula in power thanks to those dumb lazy fucks from the NE region isn't enough, we have to suffer even more.
Anonymous No.106407980
Anonymous No.106408161 >>106410036
>>106399073
helplessfags are the worst. leave
Anonymous No.106408189
What if I use GrapheneOS and never install Google Play Services or the Play Store?
Anonymous No.106408429
>>106399777
>s happy. and then use another de
whitnessed
one must kep face to the CIA NEGGERS
Anonymous No.106408601 >>106410036
>>106399073
weak bait made by an llm, 0/10
Anonymous No.106408830
>>106407888
sovl, they didn't get brainwhashed by corporations into using free garbage instead of piracing paid stuff
Anonymous No.106410036
>>106399586
>>106408161
>>106408601
cope faggots. you're gonna use play store, and you are gonna like it.